Taylormade R9?

[HumberGolf]

New Product for 2006 summer

I work at a golf retailer here in Canada and a customer had mentioned that he saw the "r9" at the mercedes champ. he doesn't know who was playing it but it was definitley r9. theres going to be like 4 different shafts according to your ball speed and swing speed, something like the speed series from cobra. Has anybody heard this becasue i thought it was just a rumour, but maybe its just in a protoype right now.

[HumberGolf]

NOT A RUMOUR. ITS MORE OF A CLASSIC LOOKING DRIVER WITH A BUNCH OF SHAFT OPTIONS FOR SWING SPEED. NOT A RUMOR

[maguy1970]

Until I see pics or a press release, it is just a rumor in my book.

[Gxgolfer]

I had a conversation a few weeks back with someone and they said they saw it in Japan. Even had a camera phone pic. Couldn't tell if it was real or even if it was a real small proto run. I never saw the pic, just talked about it.

[pingshack22]

I would bet that your information is correct. This is exactly why me and many of my playing partners refuse to buy TM equipment. Say you buy a R7 460 when it is introduced after the PGA Merchandise Show. By the time the weather gets warm its March or April depending on where you live. By the time you break this baby in, your in the middle of golf season (May or June). Then the marketing geniuses at TM come out with their latest technology (July or August), and there you are with your outdated driver that you have had for three months. You go to your local retailer to trade in your $400 driver (or $700 if its a TP version) and they offer you $200 (at best) for an almost new club. Atleast with most manufacturers you can get a season or two out of your "bigstick" and feel like you have updated technology. That's why I play Ping products. They only come out with releases only when they feel they have an improvement. I know this is opening up the floodgates for TM fans, but I am not the only person who feels this way.

[samuel ryder]

I wouldn't consider the 427 "outdated" in July--hypothetically. It's people that buy the latest and greatest that are at fault. Morons...

[rhersch]

I can't see until next year. They are already bringing out two new drivers this year.

[akap4surf]

i like taylormades clubs but it'd be pathetic for them to come out with a new driver so often, eventually they are going to oversaturate themselves in the driver market, i can see the trend beggining to happen here with the release of the r7 425

[italianstallion]

This, like pinkshack, is why I like Cleveland. The original Launchers were the flagship drivers for Cleveland from 2002 to the start of 2005. After the highbore is released, expect Cleveland to go on the back burner in the driver category, and start updates on the wedges and irons. With them, it's a cycle, repeated every 2-3 years. With Taylor Made, it's a cycle, repeated every 2-3 months. :)

[HumberGolf]

cleveland also has the type j, with the huge ugly weight plug on the heal, plus the cleveland hi bore is the ugliest driver ive ever seen, taylor's appereance and technology is at least successful and better than cleveland will ever be. cleveland HAD good wedges, now even this new cmm technology is soo soft u have no feel, dont now what there thinking. titleist best wedge.

[bobcat]

For all the TM Driver Ho's.... :crazy:

 

If you can somehow manage to acquire these (4) TM Drivers you will actually find it easy to stop playing the TM hoing game. Own these (4) drivers and you won't even be tempted by the next big thing from TM. These are (4) driver classics from TM and STILL the very best heads TM has made.

 

Please keep in mind there are established USGA limits for COR, (.830), and head size, (460cc). Given those technology limits, these 500 Series Tour heads are still as good as ANY driver can get. Own these with the shaft and loft of your choice and you can actually find driver nirvana. This set of four is truly an "all-purpose set" . One of these driver will be perfect for whatever type course you play, whether it is a wide-open bomber's course or a very tight, tree-lined course filled with doglegs. I have listed these in "size" order, (small to large), along with what I consider each driver's particular strengths.

 

- R500 Tour (325cc) Small deep face, low spin, solid, accurate workability.

 

- R510 TP/DF (390cc) Deep face and low spin. The classic mid-sized driver.

 

- R540XD TP Tour (400cc) Shallower face, more spin, solid and workable.

 

- R580XD TP Tour (440cc) Large deep face, low spin, straight forgiveness.

 

These are really all you need!

 

:jester: :aikido: :) :blink:

[ProSpec]

If TM stays true to tradition I would bet the future r9 will first appear on tour as an r7 badged proto. No insider info. here, just a hypothesis.

[pingshack22]

Bobcat - I really like what you have to say. I think I would have a driver over 440cc's on the list, but there is a lot of validity to your comments. Someone with a little patience could wait until the "classics" are discounted, and not have to get a 2nd mortgage to keep up with the drivers.

[Goose]

What TM does is one of the reasons i love Titleist soo much. I had the tm 300, then went to the 975j-vs, the i had the 983E...didnt like the K..... i didnt have the right shaft so i didnt entirely like the 983E.... so i got a R510TP w/speeder 757... i was gonna put a 757 in my 983E but i got the whole R510TP for $250 so i wasnt gonna complain.....then i got the 905T w/speeder 757 and absolutely love it...... the feel of a Titleist Driver is just Money in my opinion....With titleist they give you time to really fall in love with their product and you grow loyal to them.... which is why i will get the 905R as soon as it comes out. Tm brings out so many new Drivers alot of people get sick of it.... I dont know what you think but i never liked the r7 as was the same with many of my friends.... TM would do themselves some good to bring out some nice blades again.... and hold the next new driver for summer/fall 07'......

 

 

Dan"goose" :aikido: :) :blink: :crazy: :jester: :aikido:

[lrgdawg]

I'd have to agree with bobcat. TM is saturating the market with all the new releases. I'm still playing a 2 yr old 510TP and have no desire to try anything else. I think the R500 series were among the best TM has produced to date. JMHO

[LionGolfer]

Given Tm's production line mentality and track record, it should be so surprising.

 

Bobcat, words of wisdom for many deaf ears I'm afraid.

[vanquish007]

I would bet that your information is correct. This is exactly why me and many of my playing partners refuse to buy TM equipment. Say you buy a R7 460 when it is introduced after the PGA Merchandise Show. By the time the weather gets warm its March or April depending on where you live. By the time you break this baby in, your in the middle of golf season (May or June). Then the marketing geniuses at TM come out with their latest technology (July or August), and there you are with your outdated driver that you have had for three months. You go to your local retailer to trade in your $400 driver (or $700 if its a TP version) and they offer you $200 (at best) for an almost new club. Atleast with most manufacturers you can get a season or two out of your "bigstick" and feel like you have updated technology. That's why I play Ping products. They only come out with releases only when they feel they have an improvement. I know this is opening up the floodgates for TM fans, but I am not the only person who feels this way.

 

Don't worry, you're definitely not the only one who feels that way!

[italianstallion]

cleveland also has the type j, with the huge ugly weight plug on the heal, plus the cleveland hi bore is the ugliest driver ive ever seen, taylor's appereance and technology is at least successful and better than cleveland will ever be. cleveland HAD good wedges, now even this new cmm technology is soo soft u have no feel, dont now what there thinking. titleist best wedge.

 

Hey, this was about how close release dates were between drivers in a company. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.

 

And the J isn't for the US, Japan only.

 

And a little mix up in what drivers look like is, in my opinion, well accepted. Something new to try, spice up life a little. The final word will come after the masses try it out.

 

And I personally love the feel of the CG10s, you should try them if you haven't (which is probably why you made that statement).

 

A toast to you :)

[mcbush25]

cleveland also has the type j, with the huge ugly weight plug on the heal, plus the cleveland hi bore is the ugliest driver ive ever seen, taylor's appereance and technology is at least successful and better than cleveland will ever be. cleveland HAD good wedges, now even this new cmm technology is soo soft u have no feel, dont now what there thinking. titleist best wedge.

 

 

I don't think the type J is going to be released....or at least that is what I have heard. I am thiking this whole r9 thing is speculation. I mean they already have the r7 425 and the r7 460 is comin gout soon. Maybe they thought they heard that. Until I see pics it is merely a figment of my imagination.

[tanj]

I'm beginning to get sick of all of TM weight fixed or movable weights just like Callaways fixed weights. I reckon it just looks so and sounds so dodgey. It's like saying, were not good enough to engineer something proper so to achieve something, we'll just put weights in to achieve the desired club. I hit 1 shot with my friend's 905T today and it was pure. No-nonsense. Simple looking club but it flew and boy did it split that fairway. Don't get me wrong. My r7 is a great club but I don't use the weights at all. Don't even change them. Only thing I ever do to them is tighten them once in a while. The good thing about Titleist is that they bring clubs out when they are ready and tested and perfected by the best. Not bring them out and see if the pros like them.

 

As for the r9? Well I think it has some subtance to the rumor because TaylorMade just floods the market.

 

Josh

[yogi]

Being somewhat of a TM loyalist, I have to add that no company is holding a gun to anyones head. Its just like men with cars, or women with diamonds, everyone wants bigger and better. Nobody seems to except the fact that the market does what consumers allow. People need to stop running to the store whenever they hear the latest and greatest is a month away. Get better by working on the swing, not spending more money. The goals of a forum like this, along with several others on the web are exciting because people can talk and many times see products long before they are to be released. Thats exciting, at least to me. Many people like to complain about TM. What did they do? Offer lots of great products? Stay on the leading edge of technology by releasing new innovative ideas? Im sorry, but I dont see that as a negative thing. I do agree with the fact that product cycles are a bit short. I sure would hate to find out my new vette, (if I could afford one) dropped in value because Chevrolet decided to release another one durring the same year. Point noted, but nothing to be overly concerned about. I have blew more money in worse ways, I guarantee it! :crazy: :blink: Now stop hating the player and jump in on the TM life long rat race. P.S. Im playing my R5 from last year, just to spite everyone. :jester: :) Much love, G

[vanquish007]

Being somewhat of a TM loyalist, I have to add that no company is holding a gun to anyones head. Its just like men with cars, or women with diamonds, everyone wants bigger and better. Nobody seems to except the fact that the market does what consumers allow. People need to stop running to the store whenever they hear the latest and greatest is a month away. Get better by working on the swing, not spending more money. The goals of a forum like this, along with several others on the web are exciting because people can talk and many times see products long before they are to be released. Thats exciting, at least to me. Many people like to complain about TM. What did they do? Offer lots of great products? Stay on the leading edge of technology by releasing new innovative ideas? Im sorry, but I dont see that as a negative thing. I do agree with the fact that product cycles are a bit short. I sure would hate to find out my new vette, (if I could afford one) dropped in value because Chevrolet decided to release another one durring the same year. Point noted, but nothing to be overly concerned about. I have blew more money in worse ways, I guarantee it! :crazy: :blink: Now stop hating the player and jump in on the TM life long rat race. P.S. Im playing my R5 from last year, just to spite everyone. :aikido: :) Much love, G

 

 

Very well said!!!!.............and that's coming from a Titey ho'!

 

Cheers!!!! :jester:

[dolleris]

(yogi @ Jan 18 2006, 11:45 PM)

Being somewhat of a TM loyalist, I have to add that no company is holding a gun to anyones head. Its just like men with cars, or women with diamonds, everyone wants bigger and better. Nobody seems to except the fact that the market does what consumers allow. People need to stop running to the store whenever they hear the latest and greatest is a month away. Get better by working on the swing, not spending more money. The goals of a forum like this, along with several others on the web are exciting because people can talk and many times see products long before they are to be released. Thats exciting, at least to me. Many people like to complain about TM. What did they do? Offer lots of great products? Stay on the leading edge of technology by releasing new innovative ideas? Im sorry, but I dont see that as a negative thing. I do agree with the fact that product cycles are a bit short. I sure would hate to find out my new vette, (if I could afford one) dropped in value because Chevrolet decided to release another one durring the same year. Point noted, but nothing to be overly concerned about.

 

I'm with You 100%.

And I think this R9 thing is a rumour still.

But of course a lot of different protos is circulating - most of them will never make it to production.

 

cheers,

Soeren

[Riuzzi]

I work at a golf retailer here in Canada and a customer had mentioned that he saw the "r9" at the mercedes champ. he doesn't know who was playing it but it was definitley r9. theres going to be like 4 different shafts according to your ball speed and swing speed, something like the speed series from cobra. Has anybody heard this becasue i thought it was just a rumour, but maybe its just in a protoype right now.

 

So he saw a R9 in a player's bag at a tournament...and all of a sudden he knows all about the shafts that are gonna be offered in it?!

 

Also, as far as I know, the R7 460 isn't even out on tour yet, so I highly doubt that players are already using "R9's".

 

And please guys, keep this thread civil :)

[Viking Golfer]

I'll probably buy it when the R9 comes in a TP version - but really don't think a rumour about a R9 menas it will show up on tour for the next couple of months or next year.

 

TM will release the R7 460 in two-three months and then will need to empty their stocks of the R7 series before a possible R9 will go into production and later on have some tour presence and then go retail.

 

My guess is we'll see an R9 announced in november-december, which will be in stores come spring 2007.

[slicer365]

I would bet that your information is correct. This is exactly why me and many of my playing partners refuse to buy TM equipment. Say you buy a R7 460 when it is introduced after the PGA Merchandise Show. By the time the weather gets warm its March or April depending on where you live. By the time you break this baby in, your in the middle of golf season (May or June). Then the marketing geniuses at TM come out with their latest technology (July or August), and there you are with your outdated driver that you have had for three months. You go to your local retailer to trade in your $400 driver (or $700 if its a TP version) and they offer you $200 (at best) for an almost new club. Atleast with most manufacturers you can get a season or two out of your "bigstick" and feel like you have updated technology. That's why I play Ping products. They only come out with releases only when they feel they have an improvement. I know this is opening up the floodgates for TM fans, but I am not the only person who feels this way.

 

 

Pingshack, you nailed it, I had just bought the r540 XD and here comes the r510 TP. TaylorMade, in general, is an absolete company kind of like todays computers, once you buy this model the next model comes out. I do keep my 540 in my bag and have since, bought some v-steels and I really like them, but TaylorMade needs to rethink their marketing. They need to have one big meeting of the minds and decide how they can combine a High Trajectory ball flight with a 460cc club head, and add two screws. That there would have cancelled out 2 models. TaylorMade needs to realize that not all of it's clients are wealthy and by changing technology frequently, this will only upset the common man.

[ShortSticks]

No need to be a hater.

 

TM or any other golf company is just trying to sell clubs, it is your CHOICE to buy or not buy.

[abewley]

almost time to close this one....

[Jer-Jer]

I TOTALLY AGREE! That is why I hate TaylorMade (except for my rescue dual-nice club). They always have to come out with new stuff every 6 months or EARLIER. Have you noticed that TaylorMade always says that they have the #1 driver and all that stuff on tour? IT'S BECAUSE THEY SPONSOR ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY! Now mind you not everything they make sucks. But they need to stop coming out w/ new stuff every fricking week (exaggeration.)! Titleist came out with the 983K and 983E in what Spring 03? THEY JUST CAME OUT WITH A NEW DRIVER LAST SPRING! That's what 2 years? TaylorMade probably made 8 drivers in that time! And how long did the 983's stay at their original price? They didn't start going to $299 until late 2004. Titleist is by far the best company out there in my opinion.

[slicer365]

Not hating, just stating a very valid point. Taylormade has made some good money off the constant change in the r7/r5 product, but pretty soon TaylorMade will pi$$ enough people off to lose a fair share of the market. It might not be today or tomorrow, but it will happen, if they keep pulling that b/s, trust me it will. Cobra is on the rise and pretty soon they could pick up some of the market. This might open up even more flood gates, but how can you not agree.