AeroTech Steelfiber i95 Balance and Swingweight

[achappy]

For those that use/have used the i95 .370 shaft, how is the balance point and how does it swingweight? I'm asking because I am thinking of getting a VR Pro hybrid but the headweight is a measly 224g and I wanted to build it to 40.5" but still swingweight around D3-D4. Not sure if it will be possible even with a tipweight.

[mcputter]

My swingweight calculator spreadsheet says with those head and shaft weights at 40.5" with a standard 50 gram grip you'd be looking at about C7.5. So unless the shaft has a very low balance point you're looking at 10-12 grams of tipweight.

[achappy]

Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Maybe someone can chime in on the balance point.

[Stuart_G]

You could always try e-mailing or calling aerotech. A lot of folks have reported them being very helpful for other questions.

[Stetson]

Anybody installed the 95 shafts in a set and checked SW. I've read on many forums that SW increases even without tip weight

[Stuart_G]

I"ve done the i110 stiff's and the SW definitely decreased compared to both the KBS tours stiff and s300's. For a PW, the decrease from the s300's was 2 SW pts for the same head weight. I don't know, but I'd guess the i95's might be a bit less.

EDIT - I should add, those were the .355 versions of the i110's

[Stetson]

Inferring the 95's should decrease swing weight by 4 points total, in your opinion?

We're the 110's "constant weight"? The 95's are CW, but idk how that effects SW

[Stuart_G]

[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1369247273' post='7086602']
Inferring the 95's should decrease swing weight by 4 points total, in your opinion?

We're the 110's "constant weight"? The 95's are CW, but idk how that effects SW
[/quote]

Well, I wasn't trying to infer anything specific. Predicting balance points in shafts w/o actual measurements is not really possible but assuming the balance point is the same, then it might be 1-2 sw pts lighter. It's also possible the lines were all designed to SW the same regardless of the weight. I think contacting aerotech would be the best option to determine that.

Yes they were cw's. Based on the spec sheet, all .355's are cw. I don't know how it would effect SW either but I would think that they would be designed to SW somewhat consistently in a set of irons w/ standard head weight. Otherwise, they'd be making it fairly difficult for the builders.

[Mizgoodie]

play i95's and just for the reason the op is stating I ordered an i80 to use in a hybrid only to keep swing weight up

[Fairways_and_Greens]

Call SteelFiber. I called them when I bought my i110's (couldn't decide between i95s and i110s). Their CEO talked to me for about 40 minutes then recommended club fitters to talk to in Florida that do 10 SteelFiber fittings a week (very fair price as well).

[Stetson]

I emailed aerotech, they stated a switch from typical heavy shaft (130g), I could expect a 4 point drop in swingweight, and 2 points from 110-115g shaft. Thus in my J40 CB's I will need to add heavy-ish tip weights.

*INTERESTING NOTE: for tip weights in these shafts, aerotech stated I MUST use graphite tip weights, steel will not fit.

[Stuart_G]

[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1369277559' post='7089772']
I emailed aerotech, they stated a switch from typical heavy shaft (130g), I could expect a 4 point drop in swingweight, and 2 points from 110-115g shaft. Thus in my J40 CB's I will need to add heavy-ish tip weights.
[/quote]

Good info, thanks for sharing.

[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1369277559' post='7089772']
*INTERESTING NOTE: for tip weights in these shafts, aerotech stated I MUST use graphite tip weights, steel will not fit.
[/quote]

That's actually true for all graphite iron shafts. And more importantly, the hossel depth can severely limit how big a tip weight can be used. On the TM TP CB's, the 6 gm lead tip weights was pushing it. If you need more, tungsten might help.

[Stetson]

I am having trouble locating tip weights, I can find 10g tip weights, but if I put those in I can only get to D3. Any advice on where to find 12 or 14g tungsten weights? Or should I just add more weight under the grip?

[Another80]

Weight under the grip will take you the wrong direction...lighter grip = heavier swingweight. You could add tungsten powder instead of tipweights and get it to where you want it...

[Stuart_G]

Obviously, lead tape on the head is always an option. Not pretty but effective.

Also, since it's a hybrid, measure the hossel depth. If it's long enough, you may be able to use multiple tip weights (cutting off the part that extends up the shaft on the second weight). You want to make sure you leave enough room for at least 1" of shaft insertion when the weights are in place. Hotmelt also might also be an option.

[Stetson]

[quote name='Stuart G.' timestamp='1369330486' post='7092866']
Obviously, lead tape on the head is always an option. Not pretty but effective.

Also, since it's a hybrid, measure the hossel depth. If it's long enough, you may be able to use multiple tip weights (cutting off the part that extends up the shaft on the second weight). You want to make sure you leave enough room for at least 1" of shaft insertion when the weights are in place. Hotmelt also might also be an option.
[/quote]

It is an iron set, not a hybrid. It appears getting a set of J40's to D4 is going to be a chore, they come D1 but with the switch will go to C8; meaning 12 grams of weight added to the tip, thus 2 6 gram weights connected to each other. How would you attached them? Epoxy, let dry and then install?

[Stuart_G]

[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1369424672' post='7100856']
It is an iron set, not a hybrid. It appears getting a set of J40's to D4 is going to be a chore, they come D1 but with the switch will go to C8; meaning 12 grams of weight added to the tip, thus 2 6 gram weights connected to each other. How would you attached them? Epoxy, let dry and then install?
[/quote]

Sorry, got mixed up as the OP was asking about a hybrid. You don't really need to attach them before installation. Drop one in the hossel, install the other one normally onto the shaft with a little extra epoxy on the end and it will keep everything together. As I said before though, make sure the weights don't take up too much room and enough of the actual shaft goes into the hossel to get a good bond.

[Buzzkill]

Placed some i95s in my Eye 2s - swing weight came out to C5 (was C8).

[Vince.Cole]

I play the j40CB irons with the i95. My irons are also -1/2 short of standard so as you can imagine my irons are super light now. I had to add a ugly amount of lead tape to my head just to get it to D0. I am waiting to get my tipweights so I can rip off some of that leadtape. I wonder how heavy brendt and kuch plays their irons.

[wesr]

[quote name='Riger Mcilwood' timestamp='1392536447' post='8678195']
I play the j40CB irons with the i95. My irons are also -1/2 short of standard so as you can imagine my irons are super light now. I had to add a ugly amount of lead tape to my head just to get it to D0. I am waiting to get my tipweights so I can rip off some of that leadtape. I wonder how heavy brendt and kuch plays their irons.
[/quote]

They both play D2.

Where did you get your tip weight? I'm looking for 8grams. Golfworks has 6 grams for a graphite tip and golfsmith has some 8 gram but the bottom looks very tall.

[Stuart_G]

[quote name='wesr' timestamp='1394413394' post='8836033']
[quote name='Riger Mcilwood' timestamp='1392536447' post='8678195']
I play the j40CB irons with the i95. My irons are also -1/2 short of standard so as you can imagine my irons are super light now. I had to add a ugly amount of lead tape to my head just to get it to D0. I am waiting to get my tipweights so I can rip off some of that leadtape. I wonder how heavy brendt and kuch plays their irons.
[/quote]

They both play D2.

Where did you get your tip weight? I'm looking for 8grams. Golfworks has 6 grams for a graphite tip and golfsmith has some 8 gram but the bottom looks very tall.
[/quote]

Yes the 6 gm lead graphite tip weights do take up a lot of room in the hossel. For more than 4 gm's, I'd use these:

http://www.golfworks.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_GW0121

[Ri_Redneck]

[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1369424672' post='7100856']
[quote name='Stuart G.' timestamp='1369330486' post='7092866']
Obviously, lead tape on the head is always an option. Not pretty but effective.

Also, since it's a hybrid, measure the hossel depth. If it's long enough, you may be able to use multiple tip weights (cutting off the part that extends up the shaft on the second weight). You want to make sure you leave enough room for at least 1" of shaft insertion when the weights are in place. Hotmelt also might also be an option.
[/quote]

It is an iron set, not a hybrid. It appears getting a set of J40's to D4 is going to be a chore, they come D1 but with the switch will go to C8; meaning 12 grams of weight added to the tip, thus 2 6 gram weights connected to each other. How would you attached them? Epoxy, let dry and then install?
[/quote]

Going by memory (which leaves me hanging quite often these days), I believe it is 2gms = 1sw in the heads. That means you only need 8 gms to negate the 4 sw points lost with the i95s. Don't think you need 12 gms.

BT

[wesr]

[quote name='Ri_Redneck' timestamp='1394453820' post='8838483']
[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1369424672' post='7100856']
[quote name='Stuart G.' timestamp='1369330486' post='7092866']
Obviously, lead tape on the head is always an option. Not pretty but effective.

Also, since it's a hybrid, measure the hossel depth. If it's long enough, you may be able to use multiple tip weights (cutting off the part that extends up the shaft on the second weight). You want to make sure you leave enough room for at least 1" of shaft insertion when the weights are in place. Hotmelt also might also be an option.
[/quote]

It is an iron set, not a hybrid. It appears getting a set of J40's to D4 is going to be a chore, they come D1 but with the switch will go to C8; meaning 12 grams of weight added to the tip, thus 2 6 gram weights connected to each other. How would you attached them? Epoxy, let dry and then install?
[/quote]

Going by memory (which leaves me hanging quite often these days), I believe it is 2gms = 1sw in the heads. That means you only need 8 gms to negate the 4 sw points lost with the i95s. Don't think you need 12 gms.

BT
[/quote]

I need to move 3.7 swing weight points. I know that this is 6-8 grams, but was wondering what weighting supplies would get me there.

[Ri_Redneck]

[quote name='wesr' timestamp='1394457057' post='8838717']
[quote name='Ri_Redneck' timestamp='1394453820' post='8838483']
[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1369424672' post='7100856']
[quote name='Stuart G.' timestamp='1369330486' post='7092866']
Obviously, lead tape on the head is always an option. Not pretty but effective.

Also, since it's a hybrid, measure the hossel depth. If it's long enough, you may be able to use multiple tip weights (cutting off the part that extends up the shaft on the second weight). You want to make sure you leave enough room for at least 1" of shaft insertion when the weights are in place. Hotmelt also might also be an option.
[/quote]

It is an iron set, not a hybrid. It appears getting a set of J40's to D4 is going to be a chore, they come D1 but with the switch will go to C8; meaning 12 grams of weight added to the tip, thus 2 6 gram weights connected to each other. How would you attached them? Epoxy, let dry and then install?
[/quote]

Going by memory (which leaves me hanging quite often these days), I believe it is 2gms = 1sw in the heads. That means you only need 8 gms to negate the 4 sw points lost with the i95s. Don't think you need 12 gms.

BT
[/quote]

I need to move 3.7 swing weight points. I know that this is 6-8 grams, but was wondering what weighting supplies would get me there.
[/quote]

I've used [url="http://www.golfworks.com/productnew.asp_Q_pn_E_GW0121"]these from GWs[/url] with great success. Alter your tip trimming to compensate for the thickness.

BTW, I recently made a 1i (for the heck of it) with the i95 and a leather GripMaster stitched that feels just a shade lighter compared to my S300s. I gave it a try in Alabama last week and the results were quite nice. Just ordered a full set of the i110 CW for my 4 - PW though since I think I want my players a tad heavier.

BT

[Vince.Cole]

[quote name='Ri_Redneck' timestamp='1394473921' post='8840657']
[quote name='wesr' timestamp='1394457057' post='8838717']
[quote name='Ri_Redneck' timestamp='1394453820' post='8838483']
[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1369424672' post='7100856']
[quote name='Stuart G.' timestamp='1369330486' post='7092866']
Obviously, lead tape on the head is always an option. Not pretty but effective.

Also, since it's a hybrid, measure the hossel depth. If it's long enough, you may be able to use multiple tip weights (cutting off the part that extends up the shaft on the second weight). You want to make sure you leave enough room for at least 1" of shaft insertion when the weights are in place. Hotmelt also might also be an option.
[/quote]

It is an iron set, not a hybrid. It appears getting a set of J40's to D4 is going to be a chore, they come D1 but with the switch will go to C8; meaning 12 grams of weight added to the tip, thus 2 6 gram weights connected to each other. How would you attached them? Epoxy, let dry and then install?
[/quote]

Going by memory (which leaves me hanging quite often these days), I believe it is 2gms = 1sw in the heads. That means you only need 8 gms to negate the 4 sw points lost with the i95s. Don't think you need 12 gms.

BT
[/quote]

I need to move 3.7 swing weight points. I know that this is 6-8 grams, but was wondering what weighting supplies would get me there.
[/quote]

I've used [url="http://www.golfworks.com/productnew.asp_Q_pn_E_GW0121"]these from GWs[/url] with great success. Alter your tip trimming to compensate for the thickness.

BTW, I recently made a 1i (for the heck of it) with the i95 and a leather GripMaster stitched that feels just a shade lighter compared to my S300s. I gave it a try in Alabama last week and the results were quite nice. Just ordered a full set of the i110 CW for my 4 - PW though since I think I want my players a tad heavier.

BT
[/quote]

Will these tip weights fit the taper tip i110cw's ? I'll probably need some when I install the i110s in my miura 1957 small blades since I play -1/2 short on all my irons.

Does anyone know what swingweight would come out with the miura 1957 small blades with the i110cw's installed and 1/2 inch short from miura std?

im scared that it'll be too light, would be a shame to lead tape some beautiful miuras