Miura baby blades vs mb001

I am considering trying baby blades or mb001 irons. I currently play blades. I was wanting any advice on the differences besides size. I especially would like to know if one is longer than the other in terms of distance.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 24,990 ✭✭
    Small blades are the most solid and forgiving blade I've played. Mb001 is good. But if your father the best feel and easiest to hit I can't imagine there being a better choice than the small blade. The small size fools a lot of folks. But think of it this way. They weigh same or similar to longer length blades. So common sense says more mass directed behind the ball. Yes? So if you miss toe side you literally have the effect of an iron with tungsten in the toe to a small degree. Just am not penalized much with a miss with these. Food for thought
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  • bladehunter- I've also been considering the Small Blades, but vs the CB-57 (to me the CB-57 feels better than the MB-001, but the small blade feels better than both). I may even combo the set. That being said, I've only been able to hit the Small Blades indoors, so I was curious if I am a bit of a digger would I struggle with the small blade? Thanks!



    Vlatino - limited experience for me and off a mat so take it for what its worth - but both times I've hit these head to head I was 6-7 yds longer with the Small Blade on good shots, and considerably more consistent with it as well. Not sure if that would carry over to the course, my guess is it would off of a flat lie.



    Good luck!
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 24,990 ✭✭
    edited Feb 2, 2017 #4
    etrichards wrote:


    bladehunter- I've also been considering the Small Blades, but vs the CB-57 (to me the CB-57 feels better than the MB-001, but the small blade feels better than both). I may even combo the set. That being said, I've only been able to hit the Small Blades indoors, so I was curious if I am a bit of a digger would I struggle with the small blade? Thanks!



    Vlatino - limited experience for me and off a mat so take it for what its worth - but both times I've hit these head to head I was 6-7 yds longer with the Small Blade on good shots, and considerably more consistent with it as well. Not sure if that would carry over to the course, my guess is it would off of a flat lie.



    Good luck!






    Hard for me to say. I'm a sweeper until I get to a wedge. Lol. The. I'm coming in hot and steep.



    I don't find them to want to dig like some mb irons I've owned. Really don't think you will find a huge difference between the smal blade and the cb57. As far as sole and turf interaction. That being said. If your digging holes to China on every swing you will have to get ball 1st or it isn't going to work with anything. Likewise a high bounce iron doesn't work with me as it brings in a skipping thin miss.
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  • Vlatino1969Vlatino1969 Members Posts: 3
    Thank y'all for the information.
  • tmb guytmb guy teeitup Posts: 243 ✭✭
    well on looks alone for me the look of the mb001 and the cb-57 especially in the scoring irons are much nicer to look at the bb has

    has that shovely 501 look to ME. dont get angry bb guys. now i have not hit the bb but i do enjoy my 57's now blending with mb001 from

    7 down. now obviously feel is a different story but im content with what i have
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 24,990 ✭✭
    edited Feb 4, 2017 #7
    Tmb - you are correct the BB does have a different look. Especially Pw. It's the transition from hosel to the topline. Almost a "webbed" look. I actually prefer this as my older vega blade set was this way. I was just used to it I guess.
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  • DeNinnyDeNinny Major Wiener Members Posts: 7,974 ✭✭
    BBs FTW. There is no better iron in golf than the BB. I love the mb001, but the small head of the BB makes it easier to cut through rough and turf and also it lessens the chance of hitting the ground before ball. Bottom line is that the BB makes clean ball contact and face control the easiest, by design.
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  • tmb guytmb guy teeitup Posts: 243 ✭✭


    Tmb - you are correct the BB does have a different look. Especially Pw. It's the transition from hosel to the topline. Almost a "webbed" look. I actually prefer this as my older vega blade set was this way. I was just used to it I guess.




    yeah in with you always held off on miura cause my eye never lked the shorter irons very japan like however it loves the mb001 and cb57 guess thats why theirs different models and to each their own their all just awesome though
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  • dcdcdcdc Members Posts: 40 ✭✭


    Tmb - you are correct the BB does have a different look. Especially Pw. It's the transition from hosel to the topline. Almost a "webbed" look. I actually prefer this as my older vega blade set was this way. I was just used to it I guess.




    I am thinking of pulling the trigger and getting a set as well but am just afraid of the pw. Would you be kind enough to post an address pic of the pw?
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 24,990 ✭✭
    Sure I will. Give me an hour or so and I'll try before dark. If not I will in the morning when I got out for my Sunday round.
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  • Tcann32Tcann32 Members Posts: 3,527


    Small blades are the most solid and forgiving blade I've played. Mb001 is good. But if your father the best feel and easiest to hit I can't imagine there being a better choice than the small blade. The small size fools a lot of folks. But think of it this way. They weigh same or similar to longer length blades. So common sense says more mass directed behind the ball. Yes? So if you miss toe side you literally have the effect of an iron with tungsten in the toe to a small degree. Just am not penalized much with a miss with these. Food for thought




    When faced with questions about iron size, I always think of it this way: If you hit a nail with a hammer, even if it's not in the center, you're going to drive the nail in further than you are if you hit it with a frying pan of the same weight. I add the weight part in because yes, you could use a cast-iron pan, but nobody can swing a 25lb pan as fast as a hammer.



    The smaller the iron, if it's the same weight as a larger iron, the more effective the entire surface area of the club will be. The only danger is that if you're not even close to be good enough to play these, you do run the risk of missing the ball all together.



    Man I wish they made the small blades and baby blades for lefties. The owner of TSG has a one of one set of lefty baby blades, but he wouldn't sell them.
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  • Tcann32Tcann32 Members Posts: 3,527
    I'm going to start playing golf right handed I've decided. Then I can get the cool stuff.
    What's actually in the bag...
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  • bluejeeprubibluejeeprubi Members Posts: 1,031 ✭✭
    I went back to 1957 blades last month after trying several other irons over the past two years. To me they are far better than the mb001. Never hit the cb57. My buddy also ordered a set. He was concerned about the size but once he started hitting them he was amazed how easy they were to hit.



    I'm more of a digger (not extreme) and have no issues with the small blades. Side note, I started using the dst compressor and it has help me lessen my ditch digging skills.



    Regarding the small blade pw, the first time around I hated it. Everything was left. I play my irons .50-.75 upright. This time I did the same except for my pw. It is .75 flat and is perfect now.



    Tcann, that's why I learned to play right handed. My second favorite irons are the cobra king Mbs (black). I think they make those in lefty. Or just say a prayer every night that the raw mb from callaway will be releases in lefty.







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  • Vlatino1969Vlatino1969 Members Posts: 3
    I am scheduled for a fitting end of this month. I am going in with an open mind, and I want to try many player irons. I will update after the fitting and which one was the best fit for me.
  • nwlimnwlim Posts: 128
    Tried both during a professional fitting. Ended up with the mb001s because I didn't like the head shape of the BBs. Performance wise, they are very similar. In terms of feel, BBs feel a little more solid, mb001s feel a little softer. Ultimately it comes down to preference - I absolutely love my mb001s and will be sticking with them for sure.



    Only other note id add is get your irons moi matched. Makes a ton of difference!
  • 3riC3riC Posts: 196 ✭✭
    i went through the same dilemma myself recently, in the end i chose the BBs over MB-001.



    They're both great when you hit them well, but honestly, the looks and history of the BBs sold me.



    Can't wait to play them in a couple of weeks
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  • ChinoxleChinoxle Members Posts: 5
    I'm thinking about replacing my mb 001 for the baby blades. Do you think it's worth doing ? Is there much of a difference ?
  • BigmeanBigmean Everything is Relative Members Posts: 4,792 ✭✭
    Yes. I have had both, err, mboo1 in 7-pw in a combo set. The BB had me non interested in them.
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  • ChinoxleChinoxle Members Posts: 5
    So you're gaming the BB now ?
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Posts: 2,178 ClubWRX
    nwlim wrote:


    Tried both during a professional fitting. Ended up with the mb001s because I didn't like the head shape of the BBs. Performance wise, they are very similar. In terms of feel, BBs feel a little more solid, mb001s feel a little softer. Ultimately it comes down to preference - I absolutely love my mb001s and will be sticking with them for sure.



    Only other note id add is get your irons moi matched. Makes a ton of difference!




    Anyone else done this? MOI matching of Baby Blades?

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  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 (.... Formerly Known As RaidersGolf99) Foxboro, MAMembers Posts: 2,356 ✭✭
    dmeeksDC wrote:

    nwlim wrote:


    Tried both during a professional fitting. Ended up with the mb001s because I didn't like the head shape of the BBs. Performance wise, they are very similar. In terms of feel, BBs feel a little more solid, mb001s feel a little softer. Ultimately it comes down to preference - I absolutely love my mb001s and will be sticking with them for sure.



    Only other note id add is get your irons moi matched. Makes a ton of difference!




    Anyone else done this? MOI matching of Baby Blades?




    Mine are. Didn't really notice much difference in short irons. Mid irons felt better club to club after adjustments.
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  • BigmeanBigmean Everything is Relative Members Posts: 4,792 ✭✭
    Chinoxle wrote:


    So you're gaming the BB now ?




    Now and for the foreseeable future. I am one who always liked to have a set of cbs and blades. My CB set is the very understated Wilson staff V4s......they are dust collectors.
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  • ChinoxleChinoxle Members Posts: 5
    Bigmean wrote:

    Chinoxle wrote:


    So you're gaming the BB now ?




    Now and for the foreseeable future. I am one who always liked to have a set of cbs and blades. My CB set is the very understated Wilson staff V4s......they are dust collectors.




    Okay thanks for your reply
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    Tcann32 wrote:


    I'm going to start playing golf right handed I've decided. Then I can get the cool stuff.




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  • StrolfStrolf Posts: 128 ✭✭
    nwlim wrote:


    Tried both during a professional fitting. Ended up with the mb001s because I didn't like the head shape of the BBs. Performance wise, they are very similar. In terms of feel, BBs feel a little more solid, mb001s feel a little softer. Ultimately it comes down to preference - I absolutely love my mb001s and will be sticking with them for sure.



    Only other note id add is get your irons moi matched. Makes a ton of difference!




    Curious what you paid to get MOI Matched? I actually bought the machine to do my set, and can do it for people if needed. Shoot me a message.
  • teebrain20teebrain20 Members Posts: 13 ✭✭
    The baby blade has great playability 2-pw. The Mb-001 has great playability 6-pw... 3-5 irons are a little dicey. .....So baby blades all day long.



    The baby blade is the old Tournament Blade that is just hand ground by the founder to a size that is shorter heel to toe with a thicker muscle back. The original tournament blade was designed by one of the guys at Artisan golf so technically he did the baby blades and that's why the baby long irons are better than the mb-001 long irons which were designed in house. Miura is A+ at making irons but only a B at designing them.



    For what it's worth here is a small list of great irons forged by Miura for other companies who designed them. You can buy these for spit and use in basic amateur competition thru 2024....best of both worlds



    Mizuno MP14...that's how Tiger got introduced to Miura forgings....saw a mint set on eBay for $150 w/s-300s



    TaylorMade RAC CB tour edition.......the cb-57 is it's twin brother and very playable 3-pw...now you know where that design came from.



    McGregor V-foil muscleback and cb....when McGregor got back into the golf business they did not skimp on the forging.



    Taylormade 300...I think the first 2 years were forged by Miura and the last year was forged in Mexico.



    Tommy Armor EVO....there was a cast and forged model. The forged model was Miura and played by Fred Couples



    Maruman irons....don't remember the models but they were Miura forged in the 90's and maybe early 2000's...Laura Davies and Jose Maria Olazabal won majors with them. I think Curtis Strange's career imploded playing Maruman/Miura irons.





    whoops...got a little off topic there.
  • kaaayelllkaaayelll Members Posts: 802 ✭✭
    teebrain20 wrote:


    The baby blade has great playability 2-pw. The Mb-001 has great playability 6-pw... 3-5 irons are a little dicey. .....So baby blades all day long.



    The baby blade is the old Tournament Blade that is just hand ground by the founder to a size that is shorter heel to toe with a thicker muscle back. The original tournament blade was designed by one of the guys at Artisan golf so technically he did the baby blades and that's why the baby long irons are better than the mb-001 long irons which were designed in house. Miura is A+ at making irons but only a B at designing them.



    For what it's worth here is a small list of great irons forged by Miura for other companies who designed them. You can buy these for spit and use in basic amateur competition thru 2024....best of both worlds



    Mizuno MP14...that's how Tiger got introduced to Miura forgings....saw a mint set on eBay for $150 w/s-300s



    TaylorMade RAC CB tour edition.......the cb-57 is it's twin brother and very playable 3-pw...now you know where that design came from.



    McGregor V-foil muscleback and cb....when McGregor got back into the golf business they did not skimp on the forging.



    Taylormade 300...I think the first 2 years were forged by Miura and the last year was forged in Mexico.



    Tommy Armor EVO....there was a cast and forged model. The forged model was Miura and played by Fred Couples



    Maruman irons....don't remember the models but they were Miura forged in the 90's and maybe early 2000's...Laura Davies and Jose Maria Olazabal won majors with them. I think Curtis Strange's career imploded playing Maruman/Miura irons.





    whoops...got a little off topic there.
    Whats your information source?
  • kaaayelll wrote:


    Whats your information source?




    I'm also interested to know this.
  • teebrain20teebrain20 Members Posts: 13 ✭✭

    kaaayelll wrote:


    Whats your information source?




    I'm also interested to know this.




    Not sure if you remember Bombsquadgolf.com. Was a site sort of like this one that I think was sold and bankrupted. Anyway they originally sold Miura Japan heads before they were available in the US. To promote Miura the guy who owned the site gave out tons of info about which irons at retail were Miura forged and what tour only irons were Miura forged.



    When Miura came to the US you could only buy assembled sets out of Texas. I bought a set and asked the guy about Miura's work with other companies and he confirmed the models mentioned were forged by Miura and many more than that I just can't remember all of them. Forging irons for other companies was a big part of Miura's business at one time just like Endo so most of this stuff if common knowledge.
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