Stability Putter Shaft

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Has anyone bought and installed the Stability Shaft in their putter? Has it made an improvement, andis it worth the $200 Or is this all hype on a new product. I have read contradicting reports. Just trying to clarify if it's worth putting in and Evnroll putter. Thanks in advance
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  • dbdorsdbdors Houston, Clear Lake areaClubWRX  2217WRX Points: 291Handicap: 15Posts: 2,217 ClubWRX
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    I believe there are one or two people in this thread that have them: http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1701706-stability-putter-shaftworth-the-dough/
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    Woods: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 8*, Fujikura Ventus 6 S, TM M5, 13*, MC Diamana Thump 75 S
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  • kerila07kerila07 Members  314WRX Points: 70Handicap: 0.3Posts: 314 Greens
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    Dropped my er7 off last night to have one installed should be ready tomorrow
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  • Ripper859Ripper859 Northern Kentucky / CincinnatiMembers  106WRX Points: 54Handicap: 10Posts: 106 Fairways
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    I have one. I haven’t gotten into the season to see if my putting stats improve. I figured it couldn’t hurt anything.
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  • manxytagmanxytag Members  574WRX Points: 99Handicap: 5.1Posts: 574 Golden Tee
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    nope is it ---- worth it
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  • oneputt2oneputt2 Members  66WRX Points: 0Posts: 66
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    dbdors wrote:
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    I believe there are one or two people in this thread that have them: http://www.golfwrx.c...orth-the-dough/<br />
    thank you
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  • oneputt2oneputt2 Members  66WRX Points: 0Posts: 66
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    kerila07 wrote:
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    Dropped my er7 off last night to have one installed should be ready tomorrow<br />
    I'm getting an ER2.2 and want to install one in it. Can you let me know how it works for you. thanks my email is [email protected]
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  • kerila07kerila07 Members  314WRX Points: 70Handicap: 0.3Posts: 314 Greens
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    Sure thing looking forward to trying it out just need the weather to turn. Congrats on your purchase the Evnroll tech is the real deal.
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  • poppman2142poppman2142 Members  1244WRX Points: 185Posts: 1,244 Platinum Tees
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    There is some something to this shaft. I can’t quantify it, I just know that when I make a less than perfect stroke, the ball stays on a line I know it wouldn’t have been on without the shaft. It is not a dramatic difference but it is enough to give a 10-20 foot put at least a chance of going in when before it might have had none.
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    Titleist TS2 hybrid 19* with Tensei Pro White 90 stiff tipped 1/2"
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  • manxytagmanxytag Members  574WRX Points: 99Handicap: 5.1Posts: 574 Golden Tee
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    <br />
    There is some something to this shaft. I can’t quantify it, I just know that when I make a less than perfect stroke, the ball stays on a line I know it wouldn’t have been on without the shaft. It is not a dramatic difference but it is enough to give a 10-20 foot put at least a chance of going in when before it might have had none.<br />
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    sorry but this made me laugh.
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  • malamigmalamig Members  122WRX Points: 79Handicap: +3Posts: 122 Fairways
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    I will get my hands on one soon.
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    Hybrid: Titleist 816 H1 19* Oban Devotion 04
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  • grewgrew Members  263WRX Points: 111Posts: 263 Greens
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    I put the UST graphite one in mine and its pretty fantastic.
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  • burns9304burns9304 Members  367WRX Points: 105Posts: 367 Greens
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    I got a stability shaft installed in one of my BB0s and like it quite a bit so far. The biggest difference I can tell is that the feel is much different and the stiffness of the shaft is very noticeable compared to a standard TT putter shaft. The stability shaft helps on the long putts by allowing me to take the needed more aggressive stroke and knowing exactly where the head and face angle is at the entire time.
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    manxytag wrote:
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    There is some something to this shaft. I canâ&#128;&#153;t quantify it, I just know that when I make a less than perfect stroke, the ball stays on a line I know it wouldnâ&#128;&#153;t have been on without the shaft. It is not a dramatic difference but it is enough to give a 10-20 foot put at least a chance of going in when before it might have had none.<br />
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    sorry but this made me laugh.
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    Why is that?
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    Callaway Mavrik 10.5* with Tensei Pro White 60 stiff tipped 1/2"
    Titleist TS4 10.5* with GD XC6 stiff tipped 1/2" 
    Titleist TS2 16.5* with Tensei Pro White 70 stiff tipped 1"
    Titleist TS2 hybrid 19* with Tensei Pro White 90 stiff tipped 1/2"
    Titleist 680 MB 4-9 with Shimada Tour X-Stiff SS 1X
    Vokey SM7 46,50,55,60 with Shimada Tour X-Stiff 
    Yes C Groove Callie tour issue Badds prototype long neck
    Callaway Chrome Soft X Triple Track
    Golf Pride Multicompound Black/Black +1/64"
    Ogio Silencer bag
  • oneputt2oneputt2 Members  66WRX Points: 0Posts: 66
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    Thank you ALL for the input. I'm going to pull the trigger. One more question. Did you install the shaft yourself or did you send it to BGT to have them install it? Thanks again
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  • burns9304burns9304 Members  367WRX Points: 105Posts: 367 Greens
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    oneputt2 wrote:
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    Thank you ALL for the input. I'm going to pull the trigger. One more question. Did you install the shaft yourself or did you send it to BGT to have them install it? Thanks again<br />
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    Had a shop about 5 minutes from my house that is a Stability vendor install it. Got it back in under a day after dropping it off.
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  • MattM97MattM97 Members  1286WRX Points: 529Posts: 1,286 Platinum Tees
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    I was thinking of one, it's $250 CAD for me installed which is quite a bit. There are the UST shafts for $40 CAD which is way more appealing. May sacrifice one of my putters for the UST shaft to see how it works.
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  • golfluvzmegolfluvzme Members  2747WRX Points: 254Posts: 2,747 Titanium Tees
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    I have installed this shaft in five putters and two of them are in use and loving the new feel. Two are on their way back to the maker for changes unrelated to the shaft and will go back out, shaft re-installed. The last one has not shipped, just yet but I expect positive feedback.<br />
    The UST shaft was designed by one of the designers of the BGT shaft, but its main purpose/benefit was to filter vibrations and give the golfer a better "Feel". The Stability model was designed as a performance improvement and has benefits that were not even considered when the UST was introduced. <br />
    Guys will pay $300-500 for a driver shaft that promises less dispersion, longer drives and better feel. On a good day, the driver comes out 14 times, right? Weigh that to the potential benefit of this putter shaft and I think that the $200 becomes less of a deal-breaker. Will everyone like the new shaft? Probably not. But, it is the same with driver shafts, if you ask me. I've never liked the feel of Fujikura products, due to the feel I get from them. I'm a Graphite Designs fan. You'll never hear me knock Fujikura, though. Quality is what it is and to each his own.<br />
    If I had spent the money on a $500 putter or more, I'd have to really consider giving the BGT model a fair shake. IMHO, if you do, you'll feel what a lot of guys are feeling, including Justin Rose. Take the leap and let us know what YOU find out. <br />
    LaMont in AZ
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    There's a sucker born every minute.
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  • freddiedavis65freddiedavis65 Gadsden, ALMembers  82WRX Points: 19Handicap: 2.4Posts: 82 Fairways
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    I used the Stroke Lab putter for two rounds and it didn't feel any different for me. I assume this is the same technology
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  • burns9304burns9304 Members  367WRX Points: 105Posts: 367 Greens
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    <br />
    I used the Stroke Lab putter for two rounds and it didn't feel any different for me. I assume this is the same technology<br />
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    Stroke Lab is nothing like the Stability. Stroke Lab is made to be lighter to change the balance feel of the head; Stability is made to be super stiff to reduce the deflection of the head during the swing and is the same weight as a standard steel putter shaft.
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  • ArgiesharkArgieshark ClubWRX  23WRX Points: 33Handicap: 1Posts: 23 Bunkers
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    i had it installed on my futura 6m putter couple weeks ago. i work with continental golf in raleigh. great custom shop. Been working with them for years. i'm a self-admitted/addicted golf tech junkie so i figured it couldn't be WORSE performance than a standard stock shaft. the folks at continental said the feedback from their plus/scratch customers are that this shaft helps with lag putting the most. that is where they noticed the biggest difference. Who knows why that is. This shaft is different than the UST model which is basically just a vibration damper. This stability shaft is extremely stiff longitudinally and has extremely high resistance to torque. It does not feel heavy, nor light. it feels as one would expect a STIFF STIFF STIFF putter shaft to feel.<br />
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    technically the composite element of the shaft doesn't deform on offcenter hits (this is 80% of the length of the putter now). that is in a nutshell the technology advantage. on short putts you aren't creating enough force to cause face angle deflection due to shaft torquing a bit after offcenter strike. on a 40 foot putt a 1/2 deg of face angle change due to shaft deflection / torque equates to the putt being offline by 4 inches just from NOT hitting in the center of the face. This technology advantage is measurable on a fixed swing of the putter where the hand pressure / grip etc don't contribute to the deflection or the reaction to the feel of an offcenter strike... ie a mechanical putting robot. W a real person because our hands/wrists/arms all adapt to the FEEL of an offcenter strike in some way...who knows what actually happens.<br />
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    in my hands, this is my sense for the putter:<br />
    - short putts: not that different. takeaway feels a little different but so far my practice putting (4-6 footers) indoors is about the same.<br />
    - long putts: improved lines. I don't even think about line once i pick it. I just focus on speed. so i guess my exp is consistent w continentals other plus/scratch customers that have tried it: improved long putt performance.<br />
    - what does this mean per round? maybe 1-3 putts per round difference...<br />
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    I am a 1 handicap at this time.<br />
    Hope that helps folks.<br />
    Bill<br />
    Durham, NC
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  • ATAlxndrATAlxndr RHL Members  1038WRX Points: 93Handicap: 1.8Posts: 1,038 Platinum Tees
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    I was given one and installed it in my redwood anser. Let it dry and gripped it. Walked over to the putting green and hit about 10 putts. Walked right back to the shop and put my steel shaft back in and gave the shaft to one of my club builders to try.
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  • Big BenBig Ben Members  9350WRX Points: 518Handicap: 5Posts: 9,350 Titanium Tees
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    Anymore feedback on this sucker?

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    had one installed in my spider and within a day had to get a new spider as it did nothing but look awful feeling no different not often i will say i wasted money but on that day I did !!!

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  • Big BenBig Ben Members  9350WRX Points: 518Handicap: 5Posts: 9,350 Titanium Tees
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    As mentioned in a previous post very mixed reviews on this shaft.

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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
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  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers  25092WRX Points: 1,649Posts: 25,092 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Argieshark said:

    on a 40 foot putt a 1/2 deg of face angle change due to shaft deflection / torque equates to the putt being offline by 4 inches just from NOT hitting in the center of the face. This technology advantage is measurable on a fixed swing of the putter where the hand pressure / grip etc don't contribute to the deflection or the reaction to the feel of an offcenter strike... ie a mechanical putting robot. W a real person because our hands/wrists/arms all adapt to the FEEL of an offcenter strike in some way...who knows what actually happens.

    The theory is fine but lots of assumptions in terms of the actual significance of the shaft torque as it relates to the resulting face rotation (while the ball is still in contact with the face). Do you have a link to actual data that supports any of that? I've never run across any.

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  • JerryTBallJerryTBall Avid Amateur NCMembers  591WRX Points: 239Handicap: 8Posts: 591 Golden Tee
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    I had one installed about 2 months ago on a new PXG Gunboat, but traded in as did not care for gunboat. But then the new stroke lab putters came out and they have a similar shaft in their putters, so at that point did not see change from stability to stroke lab.

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  • BYKBYK Cardinals NationMembers  2164WRX Points: 330Posts: 2,164 Platinum Tees
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    I couldn’t tell a difference when I rolled one. If it works for you, happy for you.

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