Stability Putter Shaft

oneputt2oneputt2 Members Posts: 66
Has anyone bought and installed the Stability Shaft in their putter? Has it made an improvement, andis it worth the $200 Or is this all hype on a new product. I have read contradicting reports. Just trying to clarify if it's worth putting in and Evnroll putter. Thanks in advance
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  • dbdorsdbdors Houston, Clear Lake areaClubWRX Posts: 1,884 ClubWRX
    I believe there are one or two people in this thread that have them: http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1701706-stability-putter-shaftworth-the-dough/

    Woods: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 8*, Fujikura Ventus 6, stiff: TM M5, 13*, Diamana Thump 75, stiff
    Hybrids: TEE CBX 3H (20d), 4H (22d), Project X Hzrdus Black Hybrid 85 6.0
    Irons: TM M6, 5-GW, Accra 80i, stiff
    Wedges: Cleveland CBX 54* (bent to 55*), 60*, Accra 80i, stiff
    Putter: Evnroll ER1.2 355g, 33", KBS CT Tour Putter Matte Black, Sense S1 grip
    Ball: Wilson Duo Professional in green & yellow
    Bag/Cart: '18 Ping Hoofer/BagBoy Quad XL
    Accessories: Garmin G8/Nikon Coolshot Pro Stabilized
  • kerila07kerila07 Members Posts: 254 ✭✭✭✭
    Dropped my er7 off last night to have one installed should be ready tomorrow
  • Ripper859Ripper859 Northern Kentucky / CincinnatiMembers Posts: 105 ✭✭✭
    I have one. I haven’t gotten into the season to see if my putting stats improve. I figured it couldn’t hurt anything.
  • manxytagmanxytag Members Posts: 533 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nope is it ---- worth it
  • oneputt2oneputt2 Members Posts: 66
    dbdors wrote:


    I believe there are one or two people in this thread that have them: http://www.golfwrx.c...orth-the-dough/
    thank you
  • oneputt2oneputt2 Members Posts: 66
    kerila07 wrote:


    Dropped my er7 off last night to have one installed should be ready tomorrow
    I'm getting an ER2.2 and want to install one in it. Can you let me know how it works for you. thanks my email is [email protected]
  • kerila07kerila07 Members Posts: 254 ✭✭✭✭
    Sure thing looking forward to trying it out just need the weather to turn. Congrats on your purchase the Evnroll tech is the real deal.
  • poppman2142poppman2142 Members Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Feb 20, 2019 10:10am #9
    There is some something to this shaft. I can’t quantify it, I just know that when I make a less than perfect stroke, the ball stays on a line I know it wouldn’t have been on without the shaft. It is not a dramatic difference but it is enough to give a 10-20 foot put at least a chance of going in when before it might have had none.
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ triple diamond 10.5* with Tensei Pro Orange 70 stiff untipped
    Ping G400 Max 10.5* with Tensei Pro Orange 70 stiff untipped
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* with Tensei Pro White 70 stiff tipped 1/2"
    Callaway Apex 19' 18* with Diamana Thump 90 stiff tipped 1/4"
    Callaway Apex Pro dot 4-P with Shimada Tour X-Stiff SS 1X
    Mizuno T7 51,56,61 with Shimada Tour X-Stiff 
    Epon Zen 34.75" with Grip Master leather wrap
    Toulon Azalea 34.75" with Stability putter shaft
    2018 Callaway Chrome Soft X/Taylormade tp5x
    Golf Pride Multicompound Black/Black +1/64"
    Ogio Silencer bag
  • manxytagmanxytag Members Posts: 533 ✭✭✭✭✭


    There is some something to this shaft. I can’t quantify it, I just know that when I make a less than perfect stroke, the ball stays on a line I know it wouldn’t have been on without the shaft. It is not a dramatic difference but it is enough to give a 10-20 foot put at least a chance of going in when before it might have had none.




    sorry but this made me laugh.
  • malamigmalamig Members Posts: 118 ✭✭✭
    I will get my hands on one soon.
    Driver: Ping G400 LST 8.5* AD-DI 6X
    3w: Titleist 917F2 13.5* Oban Kiyoshi Purple 05
    Hybrid: Titleist 816 H1 19* Oban Devotion 04
    3i: Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi AMT X100SS
    4i-PW: Mizuno MP-18 AMT X100
    50*, 55*, 60*: Mizuno T7 AMT X100SS
    Putter: Scotty Cameron
  • grewgrew Members Posts: 233 ✭✭✭
    I put the UST graphite one in mine and its pretty fantastic.
    Ping G400 Max Handcrafted  PX LZ17 6.5
    Ping G410 3 wood PX LZ18 6.5
    Titleist 818 19* hybrid Diamana WB
    Cobra One Utility 3/4 iron
    Cobra Forged One Black Irons  5-GW
    Cobra One Wedges 56/60
    Odyssey Toe Up #1
  • burns9304burns9304 Members Posts: 352 ✭✭✭✭
    I got a stability shaft installed in one of my BB0s and like it quite a bit so far. The biggest difference I can tell is that the feel is much different and the stiffness of the shaft is very noticeable compared to a standard TT putter shaft. The stability shaft helps on the long putts by allowing me to take the needed more aggressive stroke and knowing exactly where the head and face angle is at the entire time.
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ Triple Diamond 9* Graphite Design Tour IZ 6
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* Graphite Design Tour IZ 7
    Titleist 818 H2 19* Graphite Design Tour DI 95
    Callaway X Forged UT H 24* Graphite Design Tour DI 95
    Callaway Apex Pro DOT 5-PW Oban CT-115 
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50*F, 54*M, 60*M Shimada Tour Wedge
    Bettinardi BB0 Flow DASS
  • poppman2142poppman2142 Members Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    manxytag wrote:


    There is some something to this shaft. I can’t quantify it, I just know that when I make a less than perfect stroke, the ball stays on a line I know it wouldn’t have been on without the shaft. It is not a dramatic difference but it is enough to give a 10-20 foot put at least a chance of going in when before it might have had none.




    sorry but this made me laugh.




    Why is that?
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ triple diamond 10.5* with Tensei Pro Orange 70 stiff untipped
    Ping G400 Max 10.5* with Tensei Pro Orange 70 stiff untipped
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* with Tensei Pro White 70 stiff tipped 1/2"
    Callaway Apex 19' 18* with Diamana Thump 90 stiff tipped 1/4"
    Callaway Apex Pro dot 4-P with Shimada Tour X-Stiff SS 1X
    Mizuno T7 51,56,61 with Shimada Tour X-Stiff 
    Epon Zen 34.75" with Grip Master leather wrap
    Toulon Azalea 34.75" with Stability putter shaft
    2018 Callaway Chrome Soft X/Taylormade tp5x
    Golf Pride Multicompound Black/Black +1/64"
    Ogio Silencer bag
  • oneputt2oneputt2 Members Posts: 66
    Thank you ALL for the input. I'm going to pull the trigger. One more question. Did you install the shaft yourself or did you send it to BGT to have them install it? Thanks again
  • burns9304burns9304 Members Posts: 352 ✭✭✭✭
    oneputt2 wrote:


    Thank you ALL for the input. I'm going to pull the trigger. One more question. Did you install the shaft yourself or did you send it to BGT to have them install it? Thanks again


    Had a shop about 5 minutes from my house that is a Stability vendor install it. Got it back in under a day after dropping it off.
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ Triple Diamond 9* Graphite Design Tour IZ 6
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* Graphite Design Tour IZ 7
    Titleist 818 H2 19* Graphite Design Tour DI 95
    Callaway X Forged UT H 24* Graphite Design Tour DI 95
    Callaway Apex Pro DOT 5-PW Oban CT-115 
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50*F, 54*M, 60*M Shimada Tour Wedge
    Bettinardi BB0 Flow DASS
  • MattM97MattM97 Members Posts: 528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was thinking of one, it's $250 CAD for me installed which is quite a bit. There are the UST shafts for $40 CAD which is way more appealing. May sacrifice one of my putters for the UST shaft to see how it works.
    WITB - Lefty
    Driver: Ping G410 Plus - 9° Draw - Tour 65S Shaft
    Fariway: Cobra F7 - 15.5° Draw - Tensei Blue 65S Shaft
    Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 - 20° Draw - Diamana S+ 70R Shaft
    Irons: Srixon Z585 - 4i to 7i - Z785 - 8i to PW - AMT Tour White S300 Shaft
    Wedges: Callaway MD3 51° - Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56° - Ping Glide 60°
    Putter Rotation: Edel E-3 - Argolf Avalon - Toulon Sand Diego - Byron Morgan DH89 - and many more.
    Balls: Vice Pro+ - Srixon Z-Star XV
    Bag: Ping Pioneer
  • golfluvzmegolfluvzme Members Posts: 2,724 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I have installed this shaft in five putters and two of them are in use and loving the new feel. Two are on their way back to the maker for changes unrelated to the shaft and will go back out, shaft re-installed. The last one has not shipped, just yet but I expect positive feedback.

    The UST shaft was designed by one of the designers of the BGT shaft, but its main purpose/benefit was to filter vibrations and give the golfer a better "Feel". The Stability model was designed as a performance improvement and has benefits that were not even considered when the UST was introduced.

    Guys will pay $300-500 for a driver shaft that promises less dispersion, longer drives and better feel. On a good day, the driver comes out 14 times, right? Weigh that to the potential benefit of this putter shaft and I think that the $200 becomes less of a deal-breaker. Will everyone like the new shaft? Probably not. But, it is the same with driver shafts, if you ask me. I've never liked the feel of Fujikura products, due to the feel I get from them. I'm a Graphite Designs fan. You'll never hear me knock Fujikura, though. Quality is what it is and to each his own.

    If I had spent the money on a $500 putter or more, I'd have to really consider giving the BGT model a fair shake. IMHO, if you do, you'll feel what a lot of guys are feeling, including Justin Rose. Take the leap and let us know what YOU find out.

    LaMont in AZ
  • Im_A_SavageIm_A_Savage WisconsinMembers Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    There's a sucker born every minute.
  • freddiedavis65freddiedavis65 Gadsden, ALMembers Posts: 77 ✭✭✭
    I used the Stroke Lab putter for two rounds and it didn't feel any different for me. I assume this is the same technology
  • burns9304burns9304 Members Posts: 352 ✭✭✭✭


    I used the Stroke Lab putter for two rounds and it didn't feel any different for me. I assume this is the same technology


    Stroke Lab is nothing like the Stability. Stroke Lab is made to be lighter to change the balance feel of the head; Stability is made to be super stiff to reduce the deflection of the head during the swing and is the same weight as a standard steel putter shaft.
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ Triple Diamond 9* Graphite Design Tour IZ 6
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* Graphite Design Tour IZ 7
    Titleist 818 H2 19* Graphite Design Tour DI 95
    Callaway X Forged UT H 24* Graphite Design Tour DI 95
    Callaway Apex Pro DOT 5-PW Oban CT-115 
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50*F, 54*M, 60*M Shimada Tour Wedge
    Bettinardi BB0 Flow DASS
  • ArgiesharkArgieshark ClubWRX Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited Feb 21, 2019 2:21pm #24
    i had it installed on my futura 6m putter couple weeks ago. i work with continental golf in raleigh. great custom shop. Been working with them for years. i'm a self-admitted/addicted golf tech junkie so i figured it couldn't be WORSE performance than a standard stock shaft. the folks at continental said the feedback from their plus/scratch customers are that this shaft helps with lag putting the most. that is where they noticed the biggest difference. Who knows why that is. This shaft is different than the UST model which is basically just a vibration damper. This stability shaft is extremely stiff longitudinally and has extremely high resistance to torque. It does not feel heavy, nor light. it feels as one would expect a STIFF STIFF STIFF putter shaft to feel.



    technically the composite element of the shaft doesn't deform on offcenter hits (this is 80% of the length of the putter now). that is in a nutshell the technology advantage. on short putts you aren't creating enough force to cause face angle deflection due to shaft torquing a bit after offcenter strike. on a 40 foot putt a 1/2 deg of face angle change due to shaft deflection / torque equates to the putt being offline by 4 inches just from NOT hitting in the center of the face. This technology advantage is measurable on a fixed swing of the putter where the hand pressure / grip etc don't contribute to the deflection or the reaction to the feel of an offcenter strike... ie a mechanical putting robot. W a real person because our hands/wrists/arms all adapt to the FEEL of an offcenter strike in some way...who knows what actually happens.



    in my hands, this is my sense for the putter:

    - short putts: not that different. takeaway feels a little different but so far my practice putting (4-6 footers) indoors is about the same.

    - long putts: improved lines. I don't even think about line once i pick it. I just focus on speed. so i guess my exp is consistent w continentals other plus/scratch customers that have tried it: improved long putt performance.

    - what does this mean per round? maybe 1-3 putts per round difference...



    I am a 1 handicap at this time.

    Hope that helps folks.

    Bill

    Durham, NC
  • ATAlxndrATAlxndr RHL Members Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I was given one and installed it in my redwood anser. Let it dry and gripped it. Walked over to the putting green and hit about 10 putts. Walked right back to the shop and put my steel shaft back in and gave the shaft to one of my club builders to try.
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    Ping G400 16.5* - MRC D+ LTD 80X
    Ping Rapture DI - DG TI AMT S400
    Ping iBlade 3i - DG TI S400 
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  • Big BenBig Ben Members Posts: 9,148 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Anymore feedback on this sucker?

    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
  • cavanaghcavanagh Members Posts: 626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    had one installed in my spider and within a day had to get a new spider as it did nothing but look awful feeling no different not often i will say i wasted money but on that day I did !!!

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    M3 3 Wood Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 75g

    Callaway X2 Hot po 20 degree Hzrdus 85g Black
    P770 4-P Project X LZ 6.0

    52, high toe

    58 Hi Toe

    Taylormade Spider Red 
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  • Big BenBig Ben Members Posts: 9,148 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    As mentioned in a previous post very mixed reviews on this shaft.

    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 23,857 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Argieshark said:
    on a 40 foot putt a 1/2 deg of face angle change due to shaft deflection / torque equates to the putt being offline by 4 inches just from NOT hitting in the center of the face. This technology advantage is measurable on a fixed swing of the putter where the hand pressure / grip etc don't contribute to the deflection or the reaction to the feel of an offcenter strike... ie a mechanical putting robot. W a real person because our hands/wrists/arms all adapt to the FEEL of an offcenter strike in some way...who knows what actually happens.

    The theory is fine but lots of assumptions in terms of the actual significance of the shaft torque as it relates to the resulting face rotation (while the ball is still in contact with the face). Do you have a link to actual data that supports any of that? I've never run across any.

  • JerryTBallJerryTBall Avid Amateur NCMembers Posts: 331 ✭✭✭✭

    I had one installed about 2 months ago on a new PXG Gunboat, but traded in as did not care for gunboat. But then the new stroke lab putters came out and they have a similar shaft in their putters, so at that point did not see change from stability to stroke lab.

    I change clubs too often to be able to update my signature but here’s what I currently play
    919 tour irons & 919 forged yes I have both sets
    Ping G400 max G400 7 wood G400 3 hybrid
    Ping glide wedges
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  • BYKBYK Members Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I couldn’t tell a difference when I rolled one. If it works for you, happy for you.

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