MD/VA/DC Golfers - Ten Seconds or Less

[thechief16]

#iseewhatyoudidthere

[DT15]

Got out with MTN today at Enterprise. I had forgotten how nice of a course it is / how close it is.

 

We got paired with two elders who were terrible, but Matt and I both played pretty well. Matt had a strong game all around, but 3 putted 3 times in 5 holes. Driving game was very strong. I hit the ball well all around. In my mind, I hit it much much better than I scored. 2 ignorant decisions on Par5's 9&10 and one unlucky bounce off a tree set my round back with 2 doubles and a bogey. Can not score that high on par 5's. I finished 18 with a nice 15ft birdie at 80 and I believe Matt finished 2 behind me at 82.

 

Pounded the Bertha mini today, duffed a few irons w/the "work in progress" shorter swing, but the evidence is there off the tee compared to last week.

[therealsneek]

Got out with MTN today at Enterprise. I had forgotten how nice of a course it is / how close it is.

 

We got paired with two elders who were terrible, but Matt and I both played pretty well. Matt had a strong game all around, but 3 putted 3 times in 5 holes. Driving game was very strong. I hit the ball well all around. In my mind, I hit it much much better than I scored. 2 ignorant decisions on Par5's 9&10 and one unlucky bounce off a tree set my round back with 2 doubles and a bogey. Can not score that high on par 5's. I finished 18 with a nice 15ft birdie at 80 and I believe Matt finished 2 behind me at 82.

 

Pounded the Bertha mini today, duffed a few irons w/the "work in progress" shorter swing, but the evidence is there off the tee compared to last week.

 

I like the Bertha Mini a lot. A guy that I work with has one and I've had the chance to hit it at the range a few times. It has a great ball flight. I'm seriously considering picking one up and replacing my 3 wood.

 

Soooooooo, if it starts to act up keep a brother in mind.

[FAbb]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

[Golfer827]

GTT: Strength is probably the fairway woods and/or short game in pitches and chips. Weakness is consistency, irons, driving.

 

GTT2: I think it's a double edged sword. It helps one the facet that if you're not feeling good about your game that day at least you know more locations you can bail to and still score well. However, it hinders depending on course layout and other conditions that your home course may follow and when you travel to an unfamiliar course (me to MD National, Blue Mash, Needwood, Laurel Hills, etc) that you may not have that same edge you would have at that home course.

[baddomes]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

 

Depends what that home course is, son. EPP? No.

 

The lowest my index got was a 6.5 on 8/15/15. It is no coincidence that from 7/1/15-8/15/15 I played 17 rounds of golf, 100% of them at Piedmont.

[eagle1997]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

 

helps self-identify your strengths and weaknesses. hurts being able to adjust to different layouts/lies/grasses. i liked playing blue mash every monday in the league for 3 years. but then i got sick of it and rarely played it for the next two years.

[davechen]

GTT: I'm doing a pretty good job these days of keeping my tee shots in play, either in the fairway or not too far off. I'm pretty confident about my pitching and my putting, especially speed-wise.

 

I need to hit more greens (as usual). That means better ball striking. These days I usually get around the green in regulation, but not actually on the green. Also I think I'm going back to the traditional style chipping on short chips. I have been doing everything Monte-style, using the bounce, but I think I'm not consistent on that for short, green side chips.

[Ocgolfrick]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

 

It hurts...when I play somewhere else. Then I'm at a distinct disadvantage. I'm used to OCGC greens speeds, lines off the tee, where I can and can't miss, etc. So when I go somewhere else, its hard in that I'm so used to something else. Then it gets in your head as your constantly comparing things- how thick the rough is, speed of greens etc. And then when I cross the Bay Bridge I'm at a REAL disadvantage. What's a sidehill lie? Why is the ball below my feet like this? What to you mean, the ball will break toward the mountain?

[FAbb]

The lowest my index got was a 6.5 on 8/15/15. It is no coincidence that from 7/1/15-8/15/15 I played 17 rounds of golf, 100% of them at Piedmont.

 

I'm starting to think this is where it might really hurt me. I don't feel like I'm any better than I was before spending time on the DL most of last season, but my handicap has gone from a 5 point something to a 2.8 since coming back. I've been playing at Hobbits almost exclusively since joining this spring. It's challenging enough in different aspects that I don't think it's hurting the ability of my game to travel, but might be hurting the ability of my handicap to travel.

[TheCityGame]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

As long as it's a good course, and you're really trying to figure out a way to attack it, I actually think playing at one place can help more than moving around a lot.

 

I mean, like I've said before. . .I had to develop a higher drive to carry trees at Pine Ridge because I was getting whooped on holes 2 and 9. Well, I got so confident with the shot, I've started using it on 11 and sometimes 18.

 

I had a 245/250 carry shot in my bag that came out occasionally, but last year Waverly required that shot be hit on command.

 

If you're just playing these places occasionally, you can think, "oh, it would be nice to have that shot, but I'm going to play it safe today." When you play it over and over again, and are trying to go low, and trying to win matches and stroke play tournaments, you can't just go safely in play all day long.

 

So, you need a course that demands a lot of you, wants you to get better, but you also need to be of the mindset that you want to get better, go lower, break 80 from the tips, etc. etc.

[dcmidnight]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

 

Pretty sure that its helped. I knew when I joined MV that it was not a long, wide open, bomber type course. Its forced me to consider the smartest way to score the best on each hole and has motivated me to learn to hit the ball both ways off the tee.

 

And like City said, the more you play certain holes in practice rounds and in matches, the more you are figuring out better scoring strategies on each and every hole. I dont think that this hurts.

[2moreTerps]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

 

Helps. They're both demanding courses. Nothing can you fake.

[thechief16]

Hurts. Playing the same track over and over allows me to put the mental game on autopilot, not having to think my way through a layout. Playing different courses forces me to really think my way through a hole, not to mention play different kinds of shots off different conditions.

[FAbb]

Ok.

 

GTT2.1 : What kind of stuff can you get away with at your home course that you can't always get away with traveling to play elsewhere? For example, maybe it's not very long, and you can get away with not having to hit driver much, or hit longer approaches very much.

[davechen]

GTT2:

I don't have 1 home course but a regular rotation of 3-4 courses. They are rather similar in style, pretty straightforward municipal courses. Hit your ball, find it, hit it again. Not that much trouble, especially around the greens. I think that does hurt me going to harder courses, as I've whined about before.

[Golfer827]

GTT2.1: I find that Black Rock is very wide open. Can hit driver and find a bad ball 90% of the time unless it's into the thick forest on the left of 13, thick forest on the right at #6 (slice or straight block) or really horrible at 3/4 (hook the approach or skull the Tee ball into the same trees at 4). Beyond that, it's very open. Maybe I should swallow the disdain of Beaver Creek and play there or look at a harsher test instead?

 

Nah, I'll wait until I can actually break 100 with regularity before finding the next course.

[SullGolf]

I don't really have a "home" course, though there was a point a few years ago where I had a package at Worthington Manor and played there ~15 times that year. That's the closest thing I've had to one.

 

GTT2.0: All things in moderation. I think it helps to an extent to play somewhere a ton, but can hurt if you only play your home course. You learn to score on the home course by getting used to all the strategy: where you can and can't miss, what's the best club to play on what shot, etc. But you need to get out a bit or else you can go in to autopilot. You end up hitting the same shots all the time. Or at least test yourself and play different tees and different shots off the tees just for variety. You miss out on all sorts of different shots that you need to score well at different courses. I play places like WM and Blue Mash enough that I don't feel comfortable going to courses that are unprotected up front and the best play is to play a low runner links-y ground game.

 

GTT2.1: The only thing you can "get away with" at WM is that it doesn't force you to have to pipe a drive on any hole except #3. You want to pipe it on the par5s to get there in 2, but I don't really have that sort of length where I can do that. I don't hit it all that far and feel like I can get away with hitting less club on a ton of holes. At 6500 on the scorecard from the blues, it feels like one of the shorter 6500 courses out there. I guess I could tip it out if I was really feeling frisky, but I'm not that good.

 

I think if you had a good stable of 3-5 tough courses that had some variety, you would be much better off than a person playing one course all the time.

[GooseHook]

Ok.

 

GTT2.1 : What kind of stuff can you get away with at your home course that you can't always get away with traveling to play elsewhere? For example, maybe it's not very long, and you can get away with not having to hit driver much, or hit longer approaches very much.

 

missing fairways

missing greens long

cutting doglegs

not worrying about wind

 

Well, you certainly can't get away with bad ball striking at Sparrows Point. BUT, you can miss almost every green short and have an easy on. The greens are also so small that it becomes difficult to three-putt when they're wet. You can be very aggressive with chips and putts.

[FAbb]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

 

I think it has helped my game some, maybe. Like city said, playing the same holes over and over can force you to examine your strategy more carefully, and make you learn how to play shots you might not be comfortable with.

 

I think it has also made my handicap a little lower than I can travel to. Learning how to maximize your scoring on your home track doesn't necessarily translate to away rounds.

 

Ok.

 

GTT2.1 : What kind of stuff can you get away with at your home course that you can't always get away with traveling to play elsewhere? For example, maybe it's not very long, and you can get away with not having to hit driver much, or hit longer approaches very much.

 

Save for a few narrow ones, Hobbits is kind of a "big" course. The fairways are big, and so are the greens, so they're easier to hit than some places. You've got to miss bigger to get in trouble off the tee.

[misplacedtexan83]

GTT1: it was iron consistency but all of sudden that has improved for me...I know it can be better.

 

However, the iron swing and wood swing aren't meshing. So, the ole tee ball needs help. Flairs and hooks don't equal low score.

 

GTT2: I say it hurts. I have been playing Andrews a lot now because of the convenience. I can play golf first then go straight to the gym or vice Versa.

 

Anywho, it's usually hard to lose a ball on Andrews West/East course unless it's a bad swing (been doing that lately). Not to many holes you have to work it and if so, it's a draw.

 

So tighter courses with "old growth" tend to not work out in my favor. If y'all want a tight course to test your driving abilities come on down and play Marlton or go out to DaGoose and play Chespeake Hills.

 

 

Oh yeah..41-40=81. Another 2.3 hour round while walking. It's not how you play but how you play fast ;)

 

Worked on staying with one shot at the time and i was clicking on the back until a pull on 18 tee. Found it but unplayable...yada Yada.

 

Putting was good today and hit a lot of lips...yeah I did. As City said, some you have to make if you want to go low...that was my mentality today.

 

would of loved the 79 but an 81 is nothing to scoff at for me at least.

[Kent01putt]

I think playing just one course all the time can hurt. But if you have different winds and different tees boxes it's not like playing the same play over and over. SPCC can play from 6100 to 6986 yds. There are 5 different ways to play the place having 27 holes. Your hdcp from SPCC travels very well. Your hdcp from Clifton will not travel well because the course is wide open. Going from your home track to a place that is difficult and requires you to move the ball in different directions can be tough if your from a easier course. Grasses and greens don't make a lot of difference to me for the most part. JMHO.

[VanBTs]

Fabb I'm not gonna be able to escape the prison for UMD next week. Appreciate the invite and I'll definitely be there for the next outing!

[dagoose383]

Anyone interested in playing Oak Creek on Sunday morning between 7-8?

 

Now that I feel like I can make it off the tee box I want to try and shoot a decent score there (kiss of death, but I don't care)

[DT15]

Anyone interested in playing Oak Creek on Sunday morning between 7-8?

 

Now that I feel like I can make it off the tee box I want to try and shoot a decent score there (kiss of death, but I don't care)

 

Possibly...

[JJCOOP7]

Rules of golf question- Match play

 

I'm conceded a putt, guys says I have to accept it (I believe rules of golf say this too)

 

Basically implies in no way can I putt the ball- count it or not count it

 

Walking off I say you know I could have taken a practice putt and he says I could not have and I would be given a two stroke penalty on top of my conceded score if I had.

 

Thoughts? I've never heard of two stroke penalty for a practice putt after a putt is conceded.

[SullGolf]

JJ, it's that dope's job to then tell you what the rule the penalty is from. It doesn't exist.

 

You can practice at any point between holes as long as you are not delaying play (Rule 7-2). In stroke or match play. Unless there is a local rule in place. You never see pros do it because it's a local rule all the time.

 

Edit: I should add that my adherence to the rules of golf (aka "integrity") has been questioned at times, so you may want a second opinion :)

[jkc-rva]

GTT2 : For those that have a home course, do you think it helps or hurts your game to play at least the majority of your rounds at one place?

 

I started shooting lower at y "home course" so I took a break from it. I knew everything about the course. What to hit in case a miss happened and knowing is be safe from there. I knew the ways greens sloped and other funky quirks about he course. However, when I got to courses that were different (longer but wider fairways,more undulating but larger greens) I wouldn't come anywhere close. However, shooting lower there really did boost my confidence and when I feel good about how I'm playing that confidence makes it easy to keep the momentum going.

[FAbb]

Singles, or team play? If it's team play and they concede so your partner doesn't get the benefit of seeing your putt, you can't hit the putt until the hole is complete. Regardless, you can practice putt after the completion of a hole in match play.

[vtnerf]

Match play, if conceded, you pick it up. After the hole is completed you can go back and "practice" it.

 

It you have a partner in that scenario, you putt is conceded, and you putt anyway, then your partner is DQ'd for that hole.

 

Basics in match play: your opponent controls your ball on the green. And there's no "I'll finish...". If your opponent says mark it, even if it's a few inches, you cannot putt it.