Ping i-e Irons?

[wag75]

For anyone interested, I was able to hit the fitting cart 7 iron on this past Saturday inside into a net; sorry no Trackman data to share or compare. Hit it with both the Modus 105 and the new stock Ping Graphite shaft. The club seems at least every bit as forgiving as my I20’s that I play. Now as to why I hit it with the graphite shaft, I currently have in my I20’s F3 95 Recoils – yes I am a little older and have a little slower swing speed than most on here, LOL . The graphite in Regular flex I believe was between 70 and 80 grams in weight; and there were some other stock Ping graphite shafts in different weights and flex but I don’t recall the details. The feel with both felt closer to forged than my I20’s which makes sense with a little softer steel being used; with the graphite shaft obviously feeling the closest to a forged iron. If the Ping stock graphite or the Modus can mimic the same consistency and tight dispersion as my “beloved” Recoils after additional testing, I would consider them instead of the Recoils. It would come down to cost if all 3 shafts perform the same. Well maybe, I do love the Recoils!

[ccorrada]

Same boat, I'm very interested in the heads but love my recoils. This could get expensive.

[doublehans]

[quote name='bunta' timestamp='1436894942' post='11947422']
anyone know when or if the i25 price is dropping ?? couple of friends looking to buy...
[/quote]

I have no knowledge, but when the G30s came out $100 more than the G25s, the G25s didnt get a price drop for maybe 9 months after the g30s came out. Given that the iE1s will be $200 more than the i25s, I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar, no price drop on i25s until 2016, since there will already be a big price difference between the new iE1s and i25s. Just speculation, but since they did the Gs the same way, good chance they do the same thing here and don't drop the i25.

[Konklifer]

Is the PING on the hosel painted and not engraved? Where is the color code indicator?

[ei19]

[quote name='Konklifer' timestamp='1436902169' post='11948338']Is the PING on the hosel painted and not engraved? Where is the color code indicator?[/quote]

Looked laser engraved to me.

[ckguy914]

[quote name='ei19' timestamp='1436906174' post='11948754']
[quote name='Konklifer' timestamp='1436902169' post='11948338']Is the PING on the hosel painted and not engraved? Where is the color code indicator?[/quote]

Looked laser engraved to me.
[/quote]

They are laser engraved because they are AFS heads off the fitting cart just like all other iron models. The actual heads for sale would have the PING and color code dots cast in like other ones.

[square]

[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1433939186' post='11724494']
[quote name='j_king' timestamp='1433890012' post='11721646']
While we all know the specific ramifications of the 2010 groove rule, the fact is that they do not meet the new groove criteria since the rule change which is clearly what vanya was referring to...
[/quote]

Actually, a great many people around here do NOT understand the ramifications of the groove rule. The rule only affects a very small percentage of the players out there yet we hear all the time about "Illegal grooves".
[/quote]

There is a population of players who wants to maintain the same set of Rules for all levels of play. For this group, any club which is illegal for one set of players, is illegal for all.
You hear about "illegal grooves" all the time because the group of players who prefers one set of Rules is a substantial number. Just as Arnold Palmer's endorsement of the illegal ERC driver was not well received. so is his prompting the USGA to enact its 2010 groove Rule. A tradition of the game is that all skill level players observe the same set of Rules.

[Rickbo]

Details have just gone up on the Ping US website.

[Green Valley]

[quote name='Rickbo' timestamp='1436963581' post='11952570']
Details have just gone up on the Ping US website.
[/quote]

Love it! Thanks for the post. I'll be heading to the ping website now.

[Green Valley]

Interesting to see the pitching wedge is 45 degrees. Jacked up lofts

[ryanmn4]

[quote name='Arafel' timestamp='1436920208' post='11950302']
[quote name='square' timestamp='1436918082' post='11950058']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1433939186' post='11724494']
[quote name='j_king' timestamp='1433890012' post='11721646']
While we all know the specific ramifications of the 2010 groove rule, the fact is that they do not meet the new groove criteria since the rule change which is clearly what vanya was referring to...
[/quote]

Actually, a great many people around here do NOT understand the ramifications of the groove rule. The rule only affects a very small percentage of the players out there yet we hear all the time about "Illegal grooves".
[/quote]

There is a population of players who wants to maintain the same set of Rules for all levels of play. For this group, any club which is illegal for one set of players, is illegal for all.
You hear about "illegal grooves" all the time because the group of players who prefers one set of Rules is a substantial number. Just as Arnold Palmer's endorsement of the illegal ERC driver was not well received. so is his prompting the USGA to enact its 2010 groove Rule. A tradition of the game is that all skill level players observe the same set of Rules.
[/quote]

Square! You're back.....and wrong again.


It's been awhile, you must have been in the Sin Bin.
[/quote]Sorry, I'm with square. Even when I wasn't trying to play in USGA championships there was something that sat wrong with me about playing clubs that weren't legal at all levels of play. I'm sure most people don't care but there is a population of us that 1) do care, and 2) have to conform due to (attempted) participation in US Am, Mid Am, Four Ball.

[Beastmode Broker]

[quote name='Rickbo' timestamp='1436963581' post='11952570']
Details have just gone up on the Ping US website.
[/quote]

whats the deal w the shafts? are they all versions for these clubs?
the specs on the DG shafts aren't whats listed on the TT site
PING lists them as 124gm but they are in fact 130

I know were only talking 6gm, but those aren't the actual specs of the shaft
what did PING do?

[bigeasy]

I will probably change my mind, but i dont like the jacked up lofts.

[Wooderson]

[quote name='Beastmode Broker' timestamp='1436964747' post='11952660']
[quote name='Rickbo' timestamp='1436963581' post='11952570']
Details have just gone up on the Ping US website.
[/quote]

whats the deal w the shafts? are they all versions for these clubs?
the specs on the DG shafts aren't whats listed on the TT site
PING lists them as 124gm but they are in fact 130

I know were only talking 6gm, but those aren't the actual specs of the shaft
what did PING do?
[/quote]

Pings specs are for a cut six iron. 5 mm's of offset in the three iron. Let the whining begin. I thoroughly love offset snobs misery.

[Rickbo]

[quote name='Beastmode Broker' timestamp='1436964747' post='11952660']
[quote name='Rickbo' timestamp='1436963581' post='11952570']
Details have just gone up on the Ping US website.
[/quote]

whats the deal w the shafts? are they all versions for these clubs?
the specs on the DG shafts aren't whats listed on the TT site
PING lists them as 124gm but they are in fact 130

I know were only talking 6gm, but those aren't the actual specs of the shaft
what did PING do?
[/quote]

I assume that based on the info on the TT website, the 130g relates to a 41" shaft. There'd be a difference of around 3g per inch of shaft length.

[gallas2]

[quote name='Green Valley' timestamp='1436963843' post='11952594']
Interesting to see the pitching wedge is 45 degrees. Jacked up lofts
[/quote]
yup. Kinda disappointed they succumbed but I'm sure its a question of $ale$. BTW, I have i25s w cfs +1/4. Does that mean I actually have CFS distance shafts?

[Dat_Dude]

Where is the actual bounce of these clubs (in degrees)? Is the bounce width a new way of measuring that I haven't heard of?

[JRod1]

Hoping I can order a short set 4-9 pretty soon. I don't give a crap about .25" offset in the 3, and progressively less through the set. A little more concerned with D1, used to d2-d3. May differ with the Modus shaft, I'm sure the listed swing-weight is with the CFS shaft. If the lofts are too strong, I'll have them adjusted. I've never owned a set of Ping irons, but after demo-ing last week, these will be in the bag. 4-9 w/ Modus105 X, Green-dot, + .25" please.

[Scooter321]

Can anyone post a comparison of specs to the i25?

Will ping adjust lofts if you order custom and wanted everything 1 degree weaker?

Project X 6.0, what kind of stiffness is that equal to (i should probably know this)?

Thanks

[misplacedtexan83]

[quote name='gallas2' timestamp='1436966184' post='11952802'][quote name='Green Valley' timestamp='1436963843' post='11952594']
Interesting to see the pitching wedge is 45 degrees. Jacked up lofts
[/quote]
yup. Kinda disappointed they succumbed but I'm sure its a question of $ale$. BTW, I have i25s w cfs +1/4. Does that mean I actually have CFS distance shafts? [/quote]

Succumbed? The PW lofts match the G-25s...and go from i25 PW 46* to a 45*.

Is this going to turn into a blue paint conversation

[Konklifer]

The std. lie angle numbers make me laugh. 62.63* lie for the seven iron? I want that checked!!!

[drvrwdge]

I love my VR Forged Pro Combo's but these will bring me back to ping.

[Nessism]

[quote name='square' timestamp='1436918082' post='11950058']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1433939186' post='11724494']
[quote name='j_king' timestamp='1433890012' post='11721646']
While we all know the specific ramifications of the 2010 groove rule, the fact is that they do not meet the new groove criteria since the rule change which is clearly what vanya was referring to...
[/quote]

Actually, a great many people around here do NOT understand the ramifications of the groove rule. The rule only affects a very small percentage of the players out there yet we hear all the time about "Illegal grooves".
[/quote]

There is a population of players who wants to maintain the same set of Rules for all levels of play. For this group, any club which is illegal for one set of players, is illegal for all.
You hear about "illegal grooves" all the time because the group of players who prefers one set of Rules is a substantial number. Just as Arnold Palmer's endorsement of the illegal ERC driver was not well received. so is his prompting the USGA to enact its 2010 groove Rule. A tradition of the game is that all skill level players observe the same set of Rules.
[/quote]

If everyone wanted one set of rules then how come the ball played in the US is different from that in Europe?

[denvergolf]

[quote name='JRod1' timestamp='1436968173' post='11953022']
Hoping I can order a short set 4-9 pretty soon. I don't give a crap about .25" offset in the 3, and progressively less through the set. A little more concerned with D1, used to d2-d3. May differ with the Modus shaft, I'm sure the listed swing-weight is with the CFS shaft. If the lofts are too strong, I'll have them adjusted. I've never owned a set of Ping irons, but after demo-ing last week, these will be in the bag. 4-9 w/ Modus105 X, Green-dot, + .25" please.
[/quote]So order them and specify D3 SW. That's why they have the tuning port...

[ryanmn4]

[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1436969216' post='11953138']
[quote name='square' timestamp='1436918082' post='11950058']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1433939186' post='11724494']
[quote name='j_king' timestamp='1433890012' post='11721646']
While we all know the specific ramifications of the 2010 groove rule, the fact is that they do not meet the new groove criteria since the rule change which is clearly what vanya was referring to...
[/quote]

Actually, a great many people around here do NOT understand the ramifications of the groove rule. The rule only affects a very small percentage of the players out there yet we hear all the time about "Illegal grooves".
[/quote]

There is a population of players who wants to maintain the same set of Rules for all levels of play. For this group, any club which is illegal for one set of players, is illegal for all.
You hear about "illegal grooves" all the time because the group of players who prefers one set of Rules is a substantial number. Just as Arnold Palmer's endorsement of the illegal ERC driver was not well received. so is his prompting the USGA to enact its 2010 groove Rule. A tradition of the game is that all skill level players observe the same set of Rules.
[/quote]

If everyone wanted one set of rules then how come the ball played in the US is different from that in Europe?
[/quote]Yeah...the ball has been the same size for competitions since the 60's, when the USGA and R&A finally got on the same page. Like, for 50 years. So I'm pretty sure that argument is invalid.

[denvergolf]

[quote name='Scooter321' timestamp='1436968476' post='11953044']
Can anyone post a comparison of specs to the i25?

Will ping adjust lofts if you order custom and wanted everything 1 degree weaker?

Project X 6.0, what kind of stiffness is that equal to (i should probably know this)?

Thanks
[/quote]Yes, X100 soft stepped once. 6.0 equates to 6.5 in flex. By contrast S300 = 5.8

[ryanmn4]

[quote name='ryanmn4' timestamp='1436969732' post='11953192']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1436969216' post='11953138']
[quote name='square' timestamp='1436918082' post='11950058']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1433939186' post='11724494']
[quote name='j_king' timestamp='1433890012' post='11721646']
While we all know the specific ramifications of the 2010 groove rule, the fact is that they do not meet the new groove criteria since the rule change which is clearly what vanya was referring to...
[/quote]

Actually, a great many people around here do NOT understand the ramifications of the groove rule. The rule only affects a very small percentage of the players out there yet we hear all the time about "Illegal grooves".
[/quote]

There is a population of players who wants to maintain the same set of Rules for all levels of play. For this group, any club which is illegal for one set of players, is illegal for all.
You hear about "illegal grooves" all the time because the group of players who prefers one set of Rules is a substantial number. Just as Arnold Palmer's endorsement of the illegal ERC driver was not well received. so is his prompting the USGA to enact its 2010 groove Rule. A tradition of the game is that all skill level players observe the same set of Rules.
[/quote]

If everyone wanted one set of rules then how come the ball played in the US is different from that in Europe?
[/quote]Yeah...the ball has been the same size for competitions since the 60's, when the USGA and R&A finally got on the same page. Like, for 50 years. So I'm pretty sure that argument is invalid.
[/quote]Just googled it...I was wrong, 1974 for competitions and outlawed entirely for conformity in 1990. We've had one ball size for 25 years now internationally, and since the 1930's here in the states.

[Konklifer]

Any reason why Blue dot is the standard for these? I used to be two degrees flat from standard. Now I'm three degrees flat, i.e. (pun intended) Brown dot.

[gallas2]

[quote name='misplacedtexan83' timestamp='1436968544' post='11953058']
[quote name='gallas2' timestamp='1436966184' post='11952802'][quote name='Green Valley' timestamp='1436963843' post='11952594']
Interesting to see the pitching wedge is 45 degrees. Jacked up lofts
[/quote]
yup. Kinda disappointed they succumbed but I'm sure its a question of $ale$. BTW, I have i25s w cfs +1/4. Does that mean I actually have CFS distance shafts? [/quote]

Succumbed? The PW lofts match the G-25s...and go from i25 PW 46* to a 45*.

Is this going to turn into a blue paint conversation
[/quote]

Maybe....but I think you have to look back more than 1 generation to spot a trend. I just looked at the ping website and from i5s to i20s the 7 iron went from 34* to 32*. S59's and G2's were 34.30*. I'd say that's pandering to the industry's obsession with distance. FWIW, I'm ok with this because I have a healthy sized ego and I ain't gettin any younger....

[gallas2]

[quote name='Konklifer' timestamp='1436970259' post='11953270']
Any reason why Blue dot is the standard for these? I used to be two degrees flat from standard. Now I'm three degrees flat, i.e. (pun intended) Brown dot.
[/quote]

Think it may be because they went 1/4 longer to match industry standards. Pretty sure longer shaft = more upright. This will be corrected instantaneously on here if I'm incorrect.