Jump to content

LIVE Q&A: Callaway Golf Apex Irons and Hybrids. Mon Oct 5, 4PM ET / 1PM PT. Ask questions NOW!


HipCheck

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 227
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

When it comes to testing irons I use two factors to help me decide on irons. The first is feel, which is subjective and the other is statistics. Could you explain for us non enginerring folks (in layman's terms) how the new technology is statistically better over previous irons? What statistics (distance, launch angle, how thin face of iron is) are most important to your team? Thanks for your time! Can't wait to try the new irons!!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The new irons look fantastic. What are the ball flights like between the Apex and Apex Pros? Im looking for a new set of clubs that offer a more piercing ball flight with the ablitliy to work the ball but also looking for some forgiveness. Would you recommend the standard Apex's?
[color=#282828]Did you put replace Tungsten in the long irons for the cupface technology? If so what are the advantages?[/color]

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you Callaway and Golfwrx for doing this Q&A.

I am not a particularly good long iron player so I have been searching for several years for the right hybrids to replace my long irons. I continue to have the same set of problems with almost every set of hybrids I have played.

First, I hit them farther than the irons I am trying to replace, and this leaves a gap in my bag.

Next, I can't stop hitting hooks, and I find it almost impossible to work the ball left to right.

The reviews I have read say that the new Apex hybrids are more "iron like" and more versatile. What is it about the new design that would make them fill the gaps in my bag better, and would allow me to hit a wider variety of shots?

Thanks,

JB

PING G400 Max 

PING G400 3 wood

Still Searching for something in between

PING S55 4-PW

Vokey 50, 56, 60

Odyssey AI ONE Milled #1

Pro V1

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Guys,

I seem to hit my 7 iron about 20 yards further than my 8. I'm concerned that could get even worse with the cf 16 since the 7 has the cup face and the 8 do not. How do you test gapping to make sure it's consistent. Robots or a number of diffrent golfers with diverse striking abillities. Or both?
Thks for your time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is great, thanks very much for this.

1) As a Titleist guy, I currently play AP2, and like them a lot. As I am looking for something with clean lines that is more forgiving am considering the CF16. Can I assume you consider the AP1 and AP2 to be a primary competitor, and use them for benchmarking against the Apex line(both pro and CF16). I would like to hear your thoughts/impressions of the AP line vs the Apex line- either data driven or subjective would be great.

2) Picking a shaft....based on a whopping total of one review on the web, low spin rates from the CF16 has been raised as a potential issue. Based on this one data point, I am jumping to conclusions here but am inclining to pick a shaft that offers a higher spin rate. Do you have any data for that shows relative spin comparisons of the different shafts you offer.

3) Fitting question- can I order a stiff shaft soft stepped? Not obvious to me on your website.

Yankees Suck

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have played the Apex Pros for a year now and really really like them. I play 5-pw. Since the new CF technology in the Pro 16's is just offered in the 3-7 would I tell a big difference between the old Pros 8-pw vs the new Pros 8-pw?. I really like my current 8-pw so maybe I could just order the new Pro 16's 5-7?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am in the market for new irons and have been hitting the apex and apex pro quite a bit the last few weeks. I am obviously waiting for the new versions to come out and test those heavily as well, but I'll be adding a new set of one or the other soon! I have heard a lot about the hybrid as well and have been considering upgrading from the current 2-iron I have to a hybrid. One of the things I love about my 2-iron is my ability to knock it down off the tee and from the fairway, but it doesn't perform well from the rough. What about the new apex hybrid do you think makes it more playable from the rough or tough lies (if anything)? Thanks so much for the time!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For the last several years, Calloway has been going through a re-emergence to re-identify itself. Bringing back Big Bertha, Great Big Bertha, etc. To your credit, it looks like your company has suceeded in a tough market place. Mr. Calloway's was credited with saying, "Good Ethics is Good Business". What do you think Ely Calloway would think of the company now, how would he feel about the new Calloway APEX Line for 2016 and other lines that have recently been released?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Can't wait to try the new gear. It's awesome that Callaway has been releasing so much new gear late in the year to keep excitement and enthusiasm in the sport during a time of the year when most people start preparing to hibernate. I know we've got a horrible drought here on the west coast, but I'm looking forward to playing my best golf of the year with this new gear!!!

So here's my questions

does the usga have a limit on the moment of inertia(COR) for irons? And if so, how close are these irons to that limit?

The recoil shafts are amazing! I play approximately 125-150 rounds of golf per year. So my current apex irons have been used for almost 250 rounds. Do graphite shafts and steel shafts degrade in performance over time with constant use? If so, how often should they be replaced?

We all know that balls fly farther in great weather conditions. But do these irons with their new forging process perform differently when they're colder/hotter?

What is the hottest spot on the club face? Or maybe a better question is, where is best spot on the club face to impact the ball to generate the longest distance?

Thanks again for your time and your tireless effort to make the coolest golf gear on the planet!

JJ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have already watched several reviews of these irons and the cf16's look like a real winner in terms of a game improvement iron without the huge foot print associated with that category of club.Did you make a conscious effort to do this or was it more a by product of the materials i.e. the very thin face allowing more mass to be distributed to the edges? Also can you confirm that there will be no up-charge for premium shafts like c-taper and tour-v to name a couple.Thanks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

With all this cup face technology, especially in the irons, what is the benefit of this compared to a regular forged iron and also one that has the body forged with a welded face? Will you loose any consistency with the strike?

Ping G430 Max 10.5, VA Nemesis 55 four

Ping G430 5-18, VA Vylyn 65 four

 Ping G430 4H, 5H, 6H, Alta 70S

Mizuno Pro 245, 6-gw. MMT 85S

Ping S159 54S, & 54H, MMT 105S

Odyssey Nano 7, stroke lab

Pro V 1X or Z-Star XV

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have moved more and more towards Callaway/Odyssey, top and bottom of the bag set. I have been so impressed, that I actually wondering how the Apex Pro iron would compare to my Mizuno MPH5/MP5 combo set. What would set them apart? Feel would be tough to match I think. Are these 1 piece forgings from 5-P? 1025? C-Taper offered at no upcharge? Will this finish be more durable than the last release of the Pro's?

Sorry for all the questions, but am very intrigued by the irons.

Thanks, will be on for the chat also.

TSR4 Ventus Red
TSi3 3w AD DI7
TSi3 5w AD DI7
TSR2 7w AD DI7

TSR3 24 AV Blue X-Link 75
T100s 6-G PX LZ
SM9 52/12/F-56/10/S TI S200 
Scotty Phantom 5.5
ProV1x
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you guy's and WRX for the live forum! My questions are:

-Why two different finishes on the irons?

-Most of the post concerning the new Apex Hybrid state that it is geared toward better players, is this true? If so, what are you going to offer the mid to high handicap players who do not carry a 3 or 4 iron and would like to replace the long irons with hybrids.

-The feel of the previous version of the Apex irons was extremely soft on all shots, almost too soft even on mishits making it hard to actually distinguish from a off center hit. Will the new Apex retain the forged feel but with feedback from the strike that most forged irons produce?

-When should we expect to see the new Chrome Soft balls/Speed Regime golf balls?

Thanks for your time! And Harry, ROLL TIDE!!! :cheesy::cheesy:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

What is the biggest, most significant performance gain in this the new Apex Pro? Was there a lot of feedback provided for this iron from 2013 X Forged Players? Do you expect the Apex pro to gain a larger tour presence in this upcoming 2016 season?


Huge shout-out and thanks to WRX and Callaway for taking the time to do this Q&A!

Taylormade M5 w/ Tenesi Orange 60x 
Taylormade M5 3w/5w w/ Tenesi Orange 70x   
Callaway Apex Pro Combo PX 6.0
Vokey SM7 50, 54, 60
Scotty Cameron Newport 2
Titleist Pro-V1x

Link to comment
Share on other sites

[quote name='HipCheck' timestamp='1443636177' post='12391310']
[attachment=2975050:CHAT_CALLAWAYAPEX.jpg]

[color=#000000]Callaway has just launched their new lineup of Apex Irons and Hybrids, and now they’re ready to answer your questions. Join us on Monday, October 5th (4 PM ET/1 PM PST) for a LIVE Q&A with Callaway's product experts on all things Apex. They'll cover the face cup technology in [/color][color=#000000]Apex 16 Irons[/color][color=#000000], the forged performance in Apex Pro 16 Irons, the shot-shaping with Apex Hybrids, and a whole lot more. [/color]

[color=#000000]Submit your questions now, and we’ll see you for the chat! [/color]

[b][color=#B22222]Who's on the Callaway Panel:[/color][/b][list]
[*][color=#000000]Alan Hocknell, SVP, R&D[/color]
[*][color=#000000]Luke Williams, Sr. Global Product Strategy Director - Irons and Hybrids[/color]
[*][color=#000000]Scott Manwaring, Sr. R&D Director - Irons and Hybrids[/color]
[*][color=#000000]Tim Reed, SVP, Product Strategy and Management[/color]
[*][color=#000000]Dave Neville, Sr. Marketing Director[/color]
[/list]
[color=#B22222][b][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]When’s It Happening:[/b][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Monday, October 5th, 4 PM ET/1 PM PT[/font][/color][color=#282828] [/color]

[color=#B22222][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][b]Live Q&A Link:[/b][/font][/color]
[color=#282828]This thread will be the Live Q&A link.[/color]

[color=#282828][color=#B22222][b]Giveaway:[/b][/color][/color]
[color=#000000]2 GolfWRX members who have their question answered will win new Apex clubs to put in their bag:[/color][list]
[*]1st Place Winner: Apex 16 Irons (Standard or Pro) and an Apex Hybrid
[*]2nd Place Winner: 2 Apex Hybrids
[/list]
[color=#282828]Winners chosen by random from all questions that are answered.[/color]
[/quote]


I'm looking for the perfect 3 hybrid complement for the 2016 Apex irons I'll be pre-ordering on 10/16. Could you tell me the difference between the 815 hybrid, and the new Apex hybrid? I intend to buy just the 3 iron equivalent of one of these to fit with a 4-PW set. I have the 816 5 wood now and really like it.

Thanks much!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Quick question regarding shaft selection in the irons:

How much R&D is involved into designing the club head based upon a particular shaft family as opposed to complementing a given (or possible) head design and then testing it against differing shafts to determine its attributes? Which comes first nowadays, with many players now more comfortable with a certain shaft's performance and then looking to change the club head to match?

Cheers,
Rich

[size=3]Vapor Speed Driver
[size=3]TaylorMade 2017 M2 13* FW[/size]
[size=3]TaylorMade 2017 M2 15* FW[/size]
[size=3]Cobra King Pro Forged Black CB/MB 4-PW[/size]
[size=3]Callaway MD2 Tour Grind 52/9, [/size][size=3]56/10, [/size][size=3]60/9[/size]
[size=3]TaylorMade TP Collection Berwick
[size=3]BOOM![/size]

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • 2024 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Zurich Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Zurich Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Alex Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Austin Cook - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Alejandro Tosti - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Davis Riley - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      MJ Daffue - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Nate Lashley - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      MJ Daffue's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Cameron putters - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Swag covers ( a few custom for Nick Hardy) - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Custom Bettinardi covers for Matt and Alex Fitzpatrick - 2024 Zurich Classic
       
       
       
      • 1 reply
    • 2024 RBC Heritage - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #1
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Rose - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Chandler Phillips - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Nick Dunlap - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Thomas Detry - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Austin Eckroat - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Wyndham Clark's Odyssey putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      JT's new Cameron putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Thomas testing new Titleist 2 wood - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Cameron putters - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Odyssey putter with triple track alignment aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Scotty Cameron The Blk Box putting alignment aid/training aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 7 replies
    • 2024 Masters - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Huge shoutout to our member Stinger2irons for taking and posting photos from Augusta
       
       
      Tuesday
       
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 1
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 2
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 3
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 4
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 5
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 6
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 7
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 8
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 9
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 10
       
       
       
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 14 replies
    • Rory McIlroy testing a new TaylorMade "PROTO" 4-iron – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rory McIlroy testing a new TaylorMade "PROTO" 4-iron – 2024 Valero Texas Open
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 93 replies
    • 2024 Valero Texas Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or Comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Valero Texas Open - Monday #1
      2024 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #1
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Ben Taylor - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Paul Barjon - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Joe Sullivan - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Wilson Furr - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Ben Willman - SoTex PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Jimmy Stanger - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rickie Fowler - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Harrison Endycott - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Vince Whaley - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Kevin Chappell - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Christian Bezuidenhout - WITB (mini) - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Scott Gutschewski - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Michael S. Kim WITB – 2024 Valero Texas Open
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Ben Taylor with new Titleist TRS 2 wood - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Swag cover - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Greyson Sigg's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Davis Riley's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Josh Teater's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Hzrdus T1100 is back - - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Mark Hubbard testing ported Titleist irons – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Tyson Alexander testing new Titleist TRS 2 wood - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Hideki Matsuyama's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Cobra putters - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Joel Dahmen WITB – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Axis 1 broomstick putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rory McIlroy testing a new TaylorMade "PROTO" 4-iron – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rory McIlroy's Trackman numbers w/ driver on the range – 2024 Valero Texas Open
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 4 replies

×
×
  • Create New...