PXG's new ad

[Argonne69]

What she should have done is hit, pose, turn the camera and say, "I like it long and strong...do you?" Hard wipe to the PXG Logo. Fin.

 

given Parsons history, I am surprised that didn't happen.

 

Wait for his 2018 Superbowl ad.

[Argonne69]

When you have a boatload of money, often people make decisions that have little to do with profit/loss.

 

Read the history of Erin Hills.

 

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/golf/2017-us-open/2017/06/06/making-erin-hills-complete-story/375374001/

[new2g0lf]

More power to Paige. She may not be LPGA caliber today, but that doesn't mean she can't be tomorrow. She has to earn a living just like any of us. These deals allow her to continue to play and practice full time to try and achieve her goals without worrying about having to hold down some other part time job to pay the bills.

 

If you believe that she doesn't deserve this or any of her other endorsements, just look at your own profession, I'm willing to bet each person here who is hating (and non haters) on Paige believes that in their own world there is someone ahead of them who doesn't deserve it. Such is life.

 

I think Paige deserves all she has accomplished and I will cheer her on and wish her success as a golfer and businesswoman.

 

For the record, she probably has more game than 99% of those posting and saying she can't play.

 

To sum that up. " you all know undeserving people who succeed . Get over it. In fact like it. Oh yea. And I think she can play and likely better than you ".

 

Really ? Why would anyone accept injustice as ok ? And on what level would we judge this contest ? Same tees etc ? I'm guessing the milenial yard stick ? Split tees she gets strokes and someone Carrys her bag and lines her up for every shot ? #winning-yay!

 

Why is it an injustice she was hired as a "Brand Ambassador" for PXG? Was it an injustice Danica Patrick was hired as Brand Ambassador of GoDaddy? Is it an injustice that Jennifer Aniston is Brand Ambassador for Aveeno? I don't think you understand Brand Ambassadors are not the same as sponsored pro's. They are just typically attractive and / or well known people that a brand wants to be represented by in their advertising.

[Seamus_McDuff]

http://ladieseuropeantour.com/spiranac-named-official-omega-dubai-desert-classic-starter/

[MoneyPlayer33]

PXG already has several LPGA players sponsored. There are also numerous LPGA pros that play the clubs. Given the cost of the equipment, and their income, I assume they were given the clubs by the company.

 

They hired her as a spokesperson, not as a player. Walk the aisles of any trade show in the country and you'll see plenty of beautiful women hawking products they don't own. As a a spokespersons I assume she'll be attending events that would conflict with the normal tournament schedule. That's the difference between a spokesperson and a sponsored player.

 

Don't see what her getting exemptions to tournaments has anything whatsoever to do with her employment as a spokesperson.

 

 

YOu are spot on with the reasoning for bobby to hire Paige.

 

My question is. Why aren't women outraged at this ? Why aren't they mad that he's hired a mediocre player to be the spokesperson in place of a real Player ? In other words it says " women can't play anyway and all they will care about is how our gear and clubs look , so let's hire a model to try to attract women customers ". Surely this is the angle. It cannot be to attract male buyers. Unless it's for the " needs cataract surgery " demographic.

 

Define mediocre player? She's currently ranked #1198 in the world. There are ~5.7 million female golfers in the world, so she's in the top 0.02% percent. 'No slouch. Heck, she's probably better than 99% of all male golfers on the planet.

 

Why aren't women outraged that The Golf Channel hires a handful of "mediocre" female players? I mean, Blair O'Neal, Meghan Hardin, Holly Sonders, Win McMurry, and Lauren Thompson weren't lighting it up on the LPGA before picking up a microphone.

 

Doese paige play professionally?? What tour?? I never see her. Name anywhere playing tournaments?

[BLLDWG23]

PXG already has several LPGA players sponsored. There are also numerous LPGA pros that play the clubs. Given the cost of the equipment, and their income, I assume they were given the clubs by the company.

 

They hired her as a spokesperson, not as a player. Walk the aisles of any trade show in the country and you'll see plenty of beautiful women hawking products they don't own. As a a spokespersons I assume she'll be attending events that would conflict with the normal tournament schedule. That's the difference between a spokesperson and a sponsored player.

 

Don't see what her getting exemptions to tournaments has anything whatsoever to do with her employment as a spokesperson.

 

 

YOu are spot on with the reasoning for bobby to hire Paige.

 

My question is. Why aren't women outraged at this ? Why aren't they mad that he's hired a mediocre player to be the spokesperson in place of a real Player ? In other words it says " women can't play anyway and all they will care about is how our gear and clubs look , so let's hire a model to try to attract women customers ". Surely this is the angle. It cannot be to attract male buyers. Unless it's for the " needs cataract surgery " demographic.

 

Define mediocre player? She's currently ranked #1198 in the world. There are ~5.7 million female golfers in the world, so she's in the top 0.02% percent. 'No slouch. Heck, she's probably better than 99% of all male golfers on the planet.

 

Why aren't women outraged that The Golf Channel hires a handful of "mediocre" female players? I mean, Blair O'Neal, Meghan Hardin, Holly Sonders, Win McMurry, and Lauren Thompson weren't lighting it up on the LPGA before picking up a microphone.

 

Doese paige play professionally?? What tour?? I never see her. Name anywhere playing tournaments?

 

Spiranac made the cut at the 2016 Aberdeen Asset Management Ladies Scottish Open at Dundonald Links and went on to capture her first professional victory on the Cactus Tour later in the year.

[JerseyBoy]

Spiranac made the cut at the 2016 Aberdeen Asset Management Ladies Scottish Open at Dundonald Links and went on to capture her first professional victory on the Cactus Tour later in the year.

 

The Cactus Tour is a local Texas "Pro Tour" and the way to get on it is pay the fee. There are no requirements as to your level of expertise. You pay the fee with a Credit Card and now you're a "Professional Golfer"?

 

She did not get through Q-School once and then decided not to try again.

[manku]

156 replies and 5600+ views and counting...for LPGA forum, that's really strong.

 

Looks like Parsons is getting his money's worth on Paige!

 

Remember, no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public :)

[BLLDWG23]

Spiranac made the cut at the 2016 Aberdeen Asset Management Ladies Scottish Open at Dundonald Links and went on to capture her first professional victory on the Cactus Tour later in the year.

 

The Cactus Tour is a local Texas "Pro Tour" and the way to get on it is pay the fee. There are no requirements as to your level of expertise. You pay the fee with a Credit Card and now you're a "Professional Golfer"?

 

She did not get through Q-School once and then decided not to try again.

 

Guy asked a question I gave him an answer. Apparently you got some issue with the girl or something. I personally don't care if she plays doesn't play, is a pro or a hack or whatever. Doesn't effect me either way.

 

As far as being a pro anyone with enough money can be a "pro" on some level on some tour. Guess what that doesn't really bother me either, and they can still call themselves a pro.

[gioguy21]

156 replies and 5600+ views and counting...for LPGA forum, that's really strong.

 

Looks like Parsons is getting his money's worth on Paige!

 

Remember, no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public :)

Not getting his money's worth bc no one here bought clubs bc she gained 15 yards.

[JerseyBoy]

Spiranac made the cut at the 2016 Aberdeen Asset Management Ladies Scottish Open at Dundonald Links and went on to capture her first professional victory on the Cactus Tour later in the year.

 

The Cactus Tour is a local Texas "Pro Tour" and the way to get on it is pay the fee. There are no requirements as to your level of expertise. You pay the fee with a Credit Card and now you're a "Professional Golfer"?

 

She did not get through Q-School once and then decided not to try again.

 

Guy asked a question I gave him an answer. Apparently you got some issue with the girl or something. I personally don't care if she plays doesn't play, is a pro or a hack or whatever. Doesn't effect me either way.

 

As far as being a pro anyone with enough money can be a "pro" on some level on some tour. Guess what that doesn't really bother me either, and they can still call themselves a pro.

 

I have no problem with anyone whatsoever. I am being precise about what all of these things MEAN. You can't understand a conversation unless everyone is on the same page.

 

If you claim to a be a "Pro" at anything, I would assume there are some forms of expertise and qualifications involved. No?

[Argonne69]

Spiranac made the cut at the 2016 Aberdeen Asset Management Ladies Scottish Open at Dundonald Links and went on to capture her first professional victory on the Cactus Tour later in the year.

 

The Cactus Tour is a local Texas "Pro Tour" and the way to get on it is pay the fee. There are no requirements as to your level of expertise. You pay the fee with a Credit Card and now you're a "Professional Golfer"?

 

She did not get through Q-School once and then decided not to try again.

 

Guy asked a question I gave him an answer. Apparently you got some issue with the girl or something. I personally don't care if she plays doesn't play, is a pro or a hack or whatever. Doesn't effect me either way.

 

As far as being a pro anyone with enough money can be a "pro" on some level on some tour. Guess what that doesn't really bother me either, and they can still call themselves a pro.

 

I have no problem with anyone whatsoever. I am being precise about what all of these things MEAN. You can't understand a conversation unless everyone is on the same page.

 

If you claim to a be a "Pro" at anything, I would assume there are some forms of expertise and qualifications involved. No?

 

If you enter tournaments for pay, you are a professional golfer. If you've ever collected a paycheck for playing in a tournament, you're a pro. It's really quite simple. The rules for being considered an amateur golfer are well defined.

[JerseyBoy]

If you enter tournaments for pay, you are a professional golfer. If you've ever collected a paycheck for playing in a tournament, you're a pro. It's really quite simple. The rules for being considered an amateur golfer are well defined.

 

Those are the USGA rules. You are correct. How many people who win their local tournament and get more than a $75 check from it now suddenly use their "Pro" status for a career shift? Or get all over the internet and tell everyone they are a "Pro Golfer" as a profession after winning said $100 at their local tract?

 

We have to talk apples and apples here, folks. You want to give in to small technicalities, more power to you. But splitting hairs is asinine.

[new2g0lf]

If you enter tournaments for pay, you are a professional golfer. If you've ever collected a paycheck for playing in a tournament, you're a pro. It's really quite simple. The rules for being considered an amateur golfer are well defined.

 

Those are the USGA rules. You are correct. How many people who win their local tournament and get more than a $75 check from it now suddenly use their "Pro" status for a career shift? Or get all over the internet and tell everyone they are a "Pro Golfer" as a profession after winning said $100 at their local tract?

 

We have to talk apples and apples here, folks. You want to give in to small technicalities, more power to you. But splitting hairs is asinine.

 

Technically she's within her right to call herself a pro golfer. I know guys that play semi-pro hockey and refer to themselves and pro hockey players. On her official website, this is how she describes herself;

 

 

Paige Spiranac is a rising golf talent, media personality, and online influencer who's on a mission to show how much fun golf can be while making a positive impact on the world.

 

I don't think she's misleading anyone, she's not responsible for what Wiki and other sites write about her.

[Argonne69]

If you enter tournaments for pay, you are a professional golfer. If you've ever collected a paycheck for playing in a tournament, you're a pro. It's really quite simple. The rules for being considered an amateur golfer are well defined.

 

Those are the USGA rules. You are correct. How many people who win their local tournament and get more than a $75 check from it now suddenly use their "Pro" status for a career shift? Or get all over the internet and tell everyone they are a "Pro Golfer" as a profession after winning said $100 at their local tract?

 

We have to talk apples and apples here, folks. You want to give in to small technicalities, more power to you. But splitting hairs is asinine.

 

There are players struggling on the Symetra Tour that make less than $10,000 a year (#101+). The bottom 14 players on the LPGA have made less than $10,000 year. Certainly not a livable wage. So, you believe these aren't professional golfers? What's your earnings cutoff for being a pro?

[JerseyBoy]

There are players struggling on the Symetra Tour that make less than $10,000 a year (#101+). The bottom 14 players on the LPGA have made less than $10,000 year. Certainly not a livable wage. So, you believe these aren't professional golfers? What's your earnings cutoff for being a pro?

 

"What's your job?"

 

"I play Golf for a living"

 

BOOM!

 

If you ask Paige what she does for a living, she will not say that she plays Golf for a living. I could be wrong,

[Argonne69]

There are players struggling on the Symetra Tour that make less than $10,000 a year (#101+). The bottom 14 players on the LPGA have made less than $10,000 year. Certainly not a livable wage. So, you believe these aren't professional golfers? What's your earnings cutoff for being a pro?

 

"What's your job?"

 

"I play Golf for a living"

 

BOOM!

 

If you ask Paige what she does for a living, she will not say that she plays Golf for a living. I could be wrong,

 

Her Facebook page lists her as "golfer Paige Spiranac". Her personal webpage displays "Rising Golf Talent".

 

I'd say you are wrong.

[gioguy21]

There are players struggling on the Symetra Tour that make less than $10,000 a year (#101+). The bottom 14 players on the LPGA have made less than $10,000 year. Certainly not a livable wage. So, you believe these aren't professional golfers? What's your earnings cutoff for being a pro?

 

"What's your job?"

 

"I play Golf for a living"

 

BOOM!

 

If you ask Paige what she does for a living, she will not say that she plays Golf for a living. I could be wrong,

 

Her Facebook page lists her as "golfer Paige Spiranac". Her personal webpage displays "Rising Golf Talent".

 

I'd say you are wrong.

lol but what is she rising?

 

clearly not her ranking...

[JerseyBoy]

"Rising Golf talent"? How? By NOT playing Golf in any tournaments?

 

She won ONE Cactus Tour event. She made one cut of the three events on the LPGA Tour she got sponsor's exemptions for. She has said herself she doesn't feel she has the chops to make it through Q-School and already tried and failed once. After which, she hasn't tried again.

 

She didn't go through the PGA Academy to be a Teaching Professional, so how is she a "Rising Golf talent"? She's 28 years old. Not that that's old in the Golfing World, but if she's "rising" she better hurry the f*** up and get there.

[JerseyBoy]

Her Facebook page lists her as "golfer Paige Spiranac". Her personal webpage displays "Rising Golf Talent".

 

I'd say you are wrong.

 

If I put that on my FB page, would you believe me?

 

These days people can call themselves anything they like. A Garbage Collector is a Sanitary Engineer. I wonder how much Physics you have to know to get that Engineering degree.

 

I get it that you like to argue and have to be right about what you're arguing about. But seriously?

[Argonne69]

Her Facebook page lists her as "golfer Paige Spiranac". Her personal webpage displays "Rising Golf Talent".

 

I'd say you are wrong.

 

If I put that on my FB page, would you believe me?

 

These days people can call themselves anything they like. A Garbage Collector is a Sanitary Engineer. I wonder how much Physics you have to know to get that Engineering degree.

 

I get it that you like to argue and have to be right about what you're arguing about. But seriously?

 

Sigh. Do you have short term memory loss by any chance? Again, you asked, "If you ask Paige what she does for a living, she will not say that she plays Golf for a living".

 

You didn't ask us what we thought she did for a living, or if we would believe her answer if she said "golfer".

 

Seems like you don't know what you're arguing about.

[JerseyBoy]

Sigh. Do you have short term memory loss by any chance? Again, you asked, "If you ask Paige what she does for a living, she will not say that she plays Golf for a living".

 

You didn't ask us what we thought she did for a living, or if we would believe her answer if she said "golfer".

 

Seems like you don't know what you're arguing about.

 

You know what? You're right.

 

I should have been more specific. She can call her self anything she likes. I don't consider her a Professional Golfer. That would actually entail playing Golf for money which she doesn't do anymore. Or even being competitive in the Sport. Which she is not.

 

My bad. I concede the point.

[Argonne69]

Sigh. Do you have short term memory loss by any chance? Again, you asked, "If you ask Paige what she does for a living, she will not say that she plays Golf for a living".

 

You didn't ask us what we thought she did for a living, or if we would believe her answer if she said "golfer".

 

Seems like you don't know what you're arguing about.

 

You know what? You're right.

 

I should have been more specific. She can call her self anything she likes. I don't consider her a Professional Golfer. That would actually entail playing Golf for money which she doesn't do anymore. Or even being competitive in the Sport. Which she is not.

 

My bad. I concede the point.

 

I'm glad we can finally agree on something. As I mentioned earlier, I view her as a model that plays golf than a professional golfer. Is there a difference between a golfer who plays professionally, and a professional golfer? I'd say yes.

 

'Curious if she makes the majority of her income from golf tournaments, or non-tournament related activities. I assume it's the latter. I'd say that a professional golfer would have to make at least half their income from tournament winnings or sponsorship deals.

 

It would be interesting to see her tax returns. Does she deduct golf expenses? The IRS has strict rules for a business vs. a hobby.

[new2g0lf]

Sigh. Do you have short term memory loss by any chance? Again, you asked, "If you ask Paige what she does for a living, she will not say that she plays Golf for a living".

 

You didn't ask us what we thought she did for a living, or if we would believe her answer if she said "golfer".

 

Seems like you don't know what you're arguing about.

 

You know what? You're right.

 

I should have been more specific. She can call her self anything she likes. I don't consider her a Professional Golfer. That would actually entail playing Golf for money which she doesn't do anymore. Or even being competitive in the Sport. Which she is not.

 

My bad. I concede the point.

 

I'm glad we can finally agree on something. As I mentioned earlier, I view her as a model that plays golf than a professional golfer. Is there a difference between a golfer who plays professionally, and a professional golfer? I'd say yes.

 

'Curious if she makes the majority of her income from golf tournaments, or non-tournament related activities. I assume it's the latter. I'd say that a professional golfer would have to make at least half their income from tournament winnings or sponsorship deals.

 

It would be interesting to see her tax returns. Does she deduct golf expenses? The IRS has strict rules for a business vs. a hobby.

I doubt she has a lot of golf expenses. She's probably has PXG clubs plus many others. She likely gets paid travel and entry fees for tournaments she receives a sponsors exemption for. The majority of her income has to come from modeling / spokesperson.

[JerseyBoy]

'Curious if she makes the majority of her income from golf tournaments, or non-tournament related activities. I assume it's the latter. I'd say that a professional golfer would have to make at least half their income from tournament winnings or sponsorship deals.

 

If she was smart about it, she would have a Company called Paige, Inc. and use that as a shell to conduct her "business". Then she could deduct all sorts of things related to that "business". She would also be an employee and find ways to pay for things like Health Insurance, etc through the business in pre-tax dollars.

 

She has not played in a Tournament since 2016 if memory serves and won $8000 that year from her one win on the Cactus Tour. I'm pretty sure the majority of her income is from sponsorships from Descente and previously from Callaway and now PXG.

[North Texas]

Just now saw the ad for the first time. Got to say it was so cheesy, and bad, it was almost cringe-worthy. Seriously.

[JerseyBoy]

Just now saw the ad for the first time. Got to say it was so cheesy, and bad, it was almost cringe-worthy. Seriously.

 

Have you see the Men's version??? OMFG. When the guy swinging the club is about to hit the ball, the scene cuts over to a firing tank cannon and the over dub is "KABOOM BABY!" It's soooooo awful. I'm amazed it got through the censors. Just terrible.

[irvtrain]

Well for a guy who has "Sugar Daddy" stamped on his wedges, I'd be willing bet he is paying Paige less many than he would for another female pro and less many than one of his "Sugar Babies". So probably a win win for the guy.

[North Texas]

Just now saw the ad for the first time. Got to say it was so cheesy, and bad, it was almost cringe-worthy. Seriously.

 

Have you see the Men's version??? OMFG. When the guy swinging the club is about to hit the ball, the scene cuts over to a firing tank cannon and the over dub is "KABOOM BABY!" It's soooooo awful. I'm amazed it got through the censors. Just terrible.

 

Just now saw this one. Good lord, those are terrible ads.

[ks6970]

money is king