Breakthrough Golf Technology (CEO Barney Adams) Stability putter shafts

[Findog88]

sixtysevensixtyseven, I understand the skepticism.

 

I've spent roughly 10 hours testing with my 1st putter with the Stability shaft. My Toulon performs better than before. (Asterisks here, I have not plotted out every putt on data sheet creating a matrix and graph). I've seen enough beneficial difference that I've had the Stability Shaft installed on my Bettinardi. The distance putts end up on 20+ footers is closer then before. I've also noticed the putts start out and stay on the intended line better then before. I also feel the difference, the shaft is much stiffer than before.

I'll also gladly accept a placebo effect because my GHIN is going back down and skins are being won!

 

Try this for a non scientific analogy before concrete evidence:

Your wife comes out of the bathroom and says I've dropped ten lbs. You look at her, say nice job give her a hug and squeeze. You notice the difference and BOTH of you are happy. You're married so You've PAID for that ($200 Shaft) in one way or another. OR are you gonna tell her you don't believe her and to jump on the scale before you go for the hug and say you're just giving our relationship a placebo?

 

At the least its money spent in a different area than $350+ on a sixth driver shaft looking for the extra 3 yards off the tee.

P.s. I have 3 driver shafts so I'm pointing at myself also.

 

How much did you practice before you changed to this? It sounds like you're spending an awful lot of time and attention on your putting now. Could that have anything to do with it?

 

I throw my gamer in the basement every once in a while to teach it a lesson but do you think that has any effect on the actual club? Of course not. I like to look at something new once in a while and eventually the honeymoon wears off and I go back to my gamer.

 

It my be different for you but I'm amazed at how a lot of people are talking about how they're spending more time plotting their putts, focusing on their results and working on their stroke with their new putter shaft and then when they see an improvement they don't even think that it could have been the extra time and attention they've given their putting.

 

I'm not against the technology at all and if I could sell myself on the idea of this having an impact on my putting, everything else being equal, I would have no problem shelling out twice that much for it.

 

To me this seems like snake oil. One of the easiest portions of the golf buying population to exploit is people who putt poorly because they'll do and believe just about anything as long as you tell them it'll help their putting.

 

I'm glad that it works for you but I just don't buy that the torque of a putter shaft comes into play that much. It would be really easy to test with a pendulum. Take two identical putters, one with one of these shafts and one with a good old True Temper and start hitting 20 footers off the toe. My guess is there is a reason they didn't do that test...

 

Because anyone who spends $200 on a putter shaft is not hitting it off the toe. They actually know how to putt.

 

None of the tour guys know how to putt then either because they all work on hitting the center of the face every day.

 

That's how confusing their testing is. After looking at it for the 20th time I finally realized that the results show the "wild oscillation" a steel shaft causes on a center strike.

 

I guess the advantage of this shaft is it decreases the amount the shaft flexes during the stroke. That makes even less sense to me. I'm surprised the shaft actually flexes enough to make a difference on a six footer.

 

Pretty clear you don’t believe in this product. No problem. But every average golfer mishits putts. And it might only be by millimetres. But when that happens a putter head will deflect open or closed. This shaft is designed to prevent that opening and closing on mishits allowing the ball to start on its intended line with a truer roll. Ball starts on line more often and rolls the same distance more often. It’s not for flex in the shaft on the swing for a short putt. It’s to prevent that deflection. And EVERYONE mishits putts.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

sixtysevensixtyseven, I understand the skepticism.

 

I've spent roughly 10 hours testing with my 1st putter with the Stability shaft. My Toulon performs better than before. (Asterisks here, I have not plotted out every putt on data sheet creating a matrix and graph). I've seen enough beneficial difference that I've had the Stability Shaft installed on my Bettinardi. The distance putts end up on 20+ footers is closer then before. I've also noticed the putts start out and stay on the intended line better then before. I also feel the difference, the shaft is much stiffer than before.

I'll also gladly accept a placebo effect because my GHIN is going back down and skins are being won!

 

Try this for a non scientific analogy before concrete evidence:

Your wife comes out of the bathroom and says I've dropped ten lbs. You look at her, say nice job give her a hug and squeeze. You notice the difference and BOTH of you are happy. You're married so You've PAID for that ($200 Shaft) in one way or another. OR are you gonna tell her you don't believe her and to jump on the scale before you go for the hug and say you're just giving our relationship a placebo?

 

At the least its money spent in a different area than $350+ on a sixth driver shaft looking for the extra 3 yards off the tee.

P.s. I have 3 driver shafts so I'm pointing at myself also.

 

How much did you practice before you changed to this? It sounds like you're spending an awful lot of time and attention on your putting now. Could that have anything to do with it?

 

I throw my gamer in the basement every once in a while to teach it a lesson but do you think that has any effect on the actual club? Of course not. I like to look at something new once in a while and eventually the honeymoon wears off and I go back to my gamer.

 

It my be different for you but I'm amazed at how a lot of people are talking about how they're spending more time plotting their putts, focusing on their results and working on their stroke with their new putter shaft and then when they see an improvement they don't even think that it could have been the extra time and attention they've given their putting.

 

I'm not against the technology at all and if I could sell myself on the idea of this having an impact on my putting, everything else being equal, I would have no problem shelling out twice that much for it.

 

To me this seems like snake oil. One of the easiest portions of the golf buying population to exploit is people who putt poorly because they'll do and believe just about anything as long as you tell them it'll help their putting.

 

I'm glad that it works for you but I just don't buy that the torque of a putter shaft comes into play that much. It would be really easy to test with a pendulum. Take two identical putters, one with one of these shafts and one with a good old True Temper and start hitting 20 footers off the toe. My guess is there is a reason they didn't do that test...

 

Because anyone who spends $200 on a putter shaft is not hitting it off the toe. They actually know how to putt.

 

None of the tour guys know how to putt then either because they all work on hitting the center of the face every day.

 

That's how confusing their testing is. After looking at it for the 20th time I finally realized that the results show the "wild oscillation" a steel shaft causes on a center strike.

 

I guess the advantage of this shaft is it decreases the amount the shaft flexes during the stroke. That makes even less sense to me. I'm surprised the shaft actually flexes enough to make a difference on a six footer.

 

Pretty clear you don't believe in this product. No problem. But every average golfer mishits putts. And it might only be by millimetres. But when that happens a putter head will deflect open or closed. This shaft is designed to prevent that opening and closing on mishits allowing the ball to start on its intended line with a truer roll. Ball starts on line more often and rolls the same distance more often. It's not for flex in the shaft on the swing for a short putt. It's to prevent that deflection. And EVERYONE mishits putts.

 

Don't talk to me like I said that, talk to swingman, he's the one who made that statement. I know everyone mishits putts and that's why you see Tiger do the gate drill during literally every warmup.

 

It's actually not designed to prevent the opening and closing on mishits. I misread that several times because I thought that was the idea behind the product but it isn't. They're saying that this shaft gets the head back to square more consistently by reducing the twisting that occurs during the stroke before impact, not during impact.

 

It's so confusing because they hit at it being more stable on off center hits but they don't come out at say it. The only solid statement they make is it will deliver the face more squarely to the ball.

 

From their website:

WHAT MAKES THIS SHAFT SO MUCH BETTER THAN MY CURRENT PUTTER SHAFT?

The Stability shaft delivers the face squarer at impact and produces more consistency in your putting. It will make your putter better and make you a better putter.

[RedWings1]

Guys, No need to jump on 6767! He's just talking this out, that's why were here.

 

6767,

 

Full discloser here... The BG site is blocked for me at work and I haven't been to it. Before purchasing I got my info from GolfWRX and then Andy & Nick from Royal Oak, Mi. Club Champion gave me their knowledge, ideas & beliefs. Then I did some trials and then went for it.

 

Reading your last post I totally understand your confusion, I think BTG needs to revisit their advertising because I think the shaft actually provides benefit in both areas of swing stiffness stability and impact torque stability especially on putts 25 feet and further.

 

I wish you were near me in Mi. I'd let you test mine out. Hopefully you find a shop or club that has one built up for you to give a test run. I'd like to hear what you think after trying it out!

 

I also know the Tour Pros are very interested, I personally held Duffner's shaft being delivered to him by Ari two weeks ago.

 

Edit - I've been to the BGT site now and watched their short videos. They miss the mark a little by not being more specific on "impact stability improvement" along with the stroke stability. Though they do state all the factors that would lead to the head being more stable at impact vs standard putter shafts. I think "At impact" is the same as "during impact"

 

RedWings1- (not so much this season)

[SwingMan]

I don't know why'd anyone talk with me - I own a BTG shaft. Will say that I get a little more energy on the ball but haven't played enough in rainy N Texas over the last 2 months to gather any stats.

[USMgolfer1]

Not sure if this is allowed by the rules on here for “promoting” but I have a Odyssey O Works #7 with a BGT shaft in it on the BST Classifieds Forum for sale if anyone is interested

[FullOfBrushMan]

Not sure if this is allowed by the rules on here for "promoting" but I have a Odyssey O Works #7 with a BGT shaft in it on the BST Classifieds Forum for sale if anyone is interested

I would of thought as an owner of the BGT Shaft you would of had better directional control keyboard stroke wise and posted this in the correct forums. Seems your aim and thought process was off.

[ATAlxndr]

As much as I hate everything about the way this shaft looks. I’ll be danged if it doesn’t feel pretty good

[ry1808]

As much as I hate everything about the way this shaft looks. I’ll be danged if it doesn’t feel pretty good

 

It's a strange feeling isn't it? I still can't put my finger on it, it's more than a soft feeling. I know this sounds crazy but I can almost feel the stability through the stroke (especially on short putts).

[Morry]

There is not a lot of valuable feedback in this thread

Seriously considering this shaft and it's difficult to get a sense from what is here

I would normally take that as a negative, but the fact that Odyssey is basically copying them on their Stroke Lab putters and All their putters going forward (no more steel I am told)....there HAS to be something real and tangible here

Thanks

[Dscvrr St Louis]

There is not a lot of valuable feedback in this thread

Seriously considering this shaft and it's difficult to get a sense from what is here

I would normally take that as a negative, but the fact that Odyssey is basically copying them on their Stroke Lab putters and All their putters going forward (no more steel I am told)....there HAS to be something real and tangible here

Thanks

 

I like the Stroke Lab shaft, but it is NOT anything similar to the Stability in weight or feel overall. Different and does help with the stroke, but not the same tech.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

There is not a lot of valuable feedback in this thread

Seriously considering this shaft and it's difficult to get a sense from what is here

I would normally take that as a negative, but the fact that Odyssey is basically copying them on their Stroke Lab putters and All their putters going forward (no more steel I am told)....there HAS to be something real and tangible here

Thanks

 

It's hard to get anything concrete about it anywhere.

[Dr.JP]

There is not a lot of valuable feedback in this thread

Seriously considering this shaft and it's difficult to get a sense from what is here

I would normally take that as a negative, but the fact that Odyssey is basically copying them on their Stroke Lab putters and All their putters going forward (no more steel I am told)....there HAS to be something real and tangible here

Thanks

 

It's hard to get anything concrete about it anywhere.

 

I have been trying to get the data from my session I did on the Quentic putting system. So from a purely objective data standpoint we (we is myself and the folks at Cure) found that there was no appreciable difference with the shaft with a 10 foot putt in lighter weighted putters (we used non Cure putters they asked me not to mention brands. Rhymes with shmodessy). I have 2 Cure putters the heavier the putter the more of a difference it made. I tested the identical putters with and without the shaft. Ideally I would have been blinded to which shaft I was using to eliminate bias however that was impossible at the time. I think reading what most folks are saying the shaft certainly makes a difference on longer putts. It also SUBJECTIVELY makes a difference in feel and confidence with putting. I don’t know if it’s enough to purchase a $200 shaft, that being said every little bit helps and it’s a club you use every hole. I hope that helps a little. I will try and get the data on here ASAP

 

 

[ry1808]

See they have a decent presence on tour this week...

 

http://gwrxmedia.golfwrx.com/media/photos/c7cf0e844173af26b9c6da8513ca6aca.jpg

[SwingBlues]

I have been trying to get the data from my session I did on the Quentic putting system. So from a purely objective data standpoint we (we is myself and the folks at Cure) found that there was no appreciable difference with the shaft with a 10 foot putt in lighter weighted putters (we used non Cure putters they asked me not to mention brands. Rhymes with shmodessy). I have 2 Cure putters the heavier the putter the more of a difference it made. I tested the identical putters with and without the shaft. Ideally I would have been blinded to which shaft I was using to eliminate bias however that was impossible at the time. I think reading what most folks are saying the shaft certainly makes a difference on longer putts. It also SUBJECTIVELY makes a difference in feel and confidence with putting. I don’t know if it’s enough to purchase a $200 shaft, that being said every little bit helps and it’s a club you use every hole. I hope that helps a little. I will try and get the data on here ASAP

 

Thanks, I appreciate the comments and feedback.

 

I got my directed force putter to Bill Presse V last week and he's installed the Stability shaft for me and it should be back tomorrow. I am soooo looking forward to trying my DF with this new shaft. The old shaft and DF head was AMAZING for me, even at longer distances so I am looking forward to seeing how this shaft will behave with my own stroke. Here's the thing, my muni courses suck as the greens are bumpy as sh*t but the proper greens outside of the muni's is where I really forward to this new putter.

 

You know, at the end of the day, if this shaft improves my chances and does, YAH but it can't be worse than my older DF black shaft (which was pretty darn good anyway) :)

[wkuo3]

I know Barney Adams will not back any products he does not believe in.

 

DO agree their advertising slogan needs to be refined.

[jurnaza]

There is not a lot of valuable feedback in this thread

Seriously considering this shaft and it's difficult to get a sense from what is here

I would normally take that as a negative, but the fact that Odyssey is basically copying them on their Stroke Lab putters and All their putters going forward (no more steel I am told)....there HAS to be something real and tangible here

 

I think there are two aspects to this shaft to consider:

 

1.) The science/data side which Quintic data shows (especially with heavier mallets) helps stabilize the shaft & putter face which makes the biggest difference on longer putts.

 

2.) The feel side, which is a personal preference for everyone, hence why there are thousands of driver shaft options.

 

I get the impression that most people aren't validating the data side on Quintic, so they can only truly express the feel side which can end up being a "too each there own" methodology. The difference it makes on off center strikes with the putter is not as noticeable to the eye as say a driver trajectory so I think the average golfer can't tell if it was simply a bad stroke or a slightly off center strike on the putter face.

 

I personally like the feel of the shaft, especially since I prefer very heavy putters, and I also believe on off center strikes and longer putts it can make the difference between holing a putt or not.

 

I already have a second shaft on order for my backup putter, just my 2 cents!

[FullOfBrushMan]

There is not a lot of valuable feedback in this thread

Seriously considering this shaft and it's difficult to get a sense from what is here

I would normally take that as a negative, but the fact that Odyssey is basically copying them on their Stroke Lab putters and All their putters going forward (no more steel I am told)....there HAS to be something real and tangible here

 

I think there are two aspects to this shaft to consider:

 

1.) The science/data side which Quintic data shows (especially with heavier mallets) helps stabilize the shaft & putter face which makes the biggest difference on longer putts.

 

2.) The feel side, which is a personal preference for everyone, hence why there are thousands of driver shaft options.

 

I get the impression that most people aren't validating the data side on Quintic, so they can only truly express the feel side which can end up being a "too each there own" methodology. The difference it makes on off center strikes with the putter is not as noticeable to the eye as say a driver trajectory so I think the average golfer can't tell if it was simply a bad stroke or a slightly off center strike on the putter face.

 

I personally like the feel of the shaft, especially since I prefer very heavy putters, and I also believe on off center strikes and longer putts it can make the difference between holing a putt or not.

 

I already have a second shaft on order for my backup putter, just my 2 cents!

Thousand of driver shafts exist because of how people deliver the club and at different speeds, mostly incorrect swings but swing none the less. Weight matters, kick point, yada yada yada .... This is one shaft with no variation.

 

This putter shaft exists to "reduce twisting" thus making more putts ... All I want is numeric evidence to prove to me that this will hole more putts. That's it. Imagine a "toe strike" provides 1 inch of miss. In order to make a putt of that length, you need a 1/2 inch of miss at most. If this shaft improves it by .25 then who cares because you are still going to miss the putt. This is just an example and not fact or proven in concrete numbers. Just trying to make a point.

 

Just show me transparency with data proving your claims instead of industry bullcrap. If you want to say the improved feel means more confidence and thus you will make more putts via mental attitude then cool but please ... especially nowadays, just don't spew a vision to make a few bucks and dodge the fact that there is zero evidence out there atm. The only data is that apparently with heavier putters it helps, how much who knows, but only on longer putts.

 

I'll have my come to Jesus moment eventually but in the meantime I'm extremely skeptical until I see unbiased data proving their claims.

[RedWings1]

Full of Brush Man... Geez dude - Just go right to the source and call or email them.

[Z1ggy16]

There is not a lot of valuable feedback in this thread

Seriously considering this shaft and it's difficult to get a sense from what is here

I would normally take that as a negative, but the fact that Odyssey is basically copying them on their Stroke Lab putters and All their putters going forward (no more steel I am told)....there HAS to be something real and tangible here

 

I think there are two aspects to this shaft to consider:

 

1.) The science/data side which Quintic data shows (especially with heavier mallets) helps stabilize the shaft & putter face which makes the biggest difference on longer putts.

 

2.) The feel side, which is a personal preference for everyone, hence why there are thousands of driver shaft options.

 

I get the impression that most people aren't validating the data side on Quintic, so they can only truly express the feel side which can end up being a "too each there own" methodology. The difference it makes on off center strikes with the putter is not as noticeable to the eye as say a driver trajectory so I think the average golfer can't tell if it was simply a bad stroke or a slightly off center strike on the putter face.

 

I personally like the feel of the shaft, especially since I prefer very heavy putters, and I also believe on off center strikes and longer putts it can make the difference between holing a putt or not.

 

I already have a second shaft on order for my backup putter, just my 2 cents!

Thousand of driver shafts exist because of how people deliver the club and at different speeds, mostly incorrect swings but swing none the less. Weight matters, kick point, yada yada yada .... This is one shaft with no variation.

 

This putter shaft exists to "reduce twisting" thus making more putts ... All I want is numeric evidence to prove to me that this will hole more putts. That's it. Imagine a "toe strike" provides 1 inch of miss. In order to make a putt of that length, you need a 1/2 inch of miss at most. If this shaft improves it by .25 then who cares because you are still going to miss the putt. This is just an example and not fact or proven in concrete numbers. Just trying to make a point.

 

Just show me transparency with data proving your claims instead of industry bullcrap. If you want to say the improved feel means more confidence and thus you will make more putts via mental attitude then cool but please ... especially nowadays, just don't spew a vision to make a few bucks and dodge the fact that there is zero evidence out there atm. The only data is that apparently with heavier putters it helps, how much who knows, but only on longer putts.

 

I'll have my come to Jesus moment eventually but in the meantime I'm extremely skeptical until I see unbiased data proving their claims.

I'd be shocked if the OEM doesn't have this info readily available from testing on Quintic. It's very easily proven or dis-proven using that system.

[tgoodspe1991]

I own one of these in my 350g BB0 putter. It's...fine... it's not a magic bullet or a miracle shaft. I don't think I putt any better or worse with it in. If anything, I prefer the looks of a traditional steel shaft so I'm not even sure I like gaming this thing.

 

For me, unless I see data that proves this thing does anything, I'm still skeptical of it. Justin Rose had one in, then removed it, and still went on to win a ton of tournament. If this thing objectively improved direction and roll then Pro's would be using it. Regardless of how consistent they already are, if there were truly something to improve their game and make them MILLIONS more dollars, you'd better believe they would use it.

 

For really heavy mallet putters I can see how the idea of this would improve stability, but for a normal blade putter at least I personally am not noticing anything remarkable.

[SwingMan]

I own one of these in my 350g BB0 putter. It's...fine... it's not a magic bullet or a miracle shaft. I don't think I putt any better or worse with it in. If anything, I prefer the looks of a traditional steel shaft so I'm not even sure I like gaming this thing.

 

For me, unless I see data that proves this thing does anything, I'm still skeptical of it. Justin Rose had one in, then removed it, and still went on to win a ton of tournament. If this thing objectively improved direction and roll then Pro's would be using it. Regardless of how consistent they already are, if there were truly something to improve their game and make them MILLIONS more dollars, you'd better believe they would use it.

 

For really heavy mallet putters I can see how the idea of this would improve stability, but for a normal blade putter at least I personally am not noticing anything remarkable.

 

Lot of pros do use it ... see earlier posts. Saw one in use yesterday while channel surfing.

[FullOfBrushMan]

I own one of these in my 350g BB0 putter. It's...fine... it's not a magic bullet or a miracle shaft. I don't think I putt any better or worse with it in. If anything, I prefer the looks of a traditional steel shaft so I'm not even sure I like gaming this thing.

 

For me, unless I see data that proves this thing does anything, I'm still skeptical of it. Justin Rose had one in, then removed it, and still went on to win a ton of tournament. If this thing objectively improved direction and roll then Pro's would be using it. Regardless of how consistent they already are, if there were truly something to improve their game and make them MILLIONS more dollars, you'd better believe they would use it.

 

For really heavy mallet putters I can see how the idea of this would improve stability, but for a normal blade putter at least I personally am not noticing anything remarkable.

Amen. The heavier the putter the more this shaft COULD make sense. That being said invest in lessons and the correct technique.

[RedWings1]

Looks to me that Odyssey (Danny Willet wins with new putter topic) has preempted the emergence of the BGT Stability Shaft with there new black n chrome putter shaft.

 

It will be interesting to hear what Odyssey says about this shafts improvements over the past putter shafts. And it will also be interesting to read the comments from all those so skeptical of the BGT Stability Shaft!

 

Pros are paid to use certain equipment. I'm sure this is a major hurdle getting more use on the pro tours!

 

edit: the Odyssey shaft is supposed to be lighter (different material?) than standard.

[3offthetee2]

The odyssey shaft has its similarities. Its much lighter then your average putter shaft but also stable like the BGT. I have used the new odyssey 7 with the shaft in question and it performs exactly how my BGT does for the most part.

[EaglesGolf99]

I AM a believer in putter shaft flex! I've never touched these, but like I said I do believe in putter shaft flex, firmly.

 

It isn't for everybody. Or rather, I should say, it isn't needed by everybody. But for me, I have the tiniest bits of lag in my stroke from about 20ft and out. The stiffer tipped shaft has helped drasticly with my speed control.

[SwingMan]

There is not a lot of valuable feedback in this thread

Seriously considering this shaft and it's difficult to get a sense from what is here

I would normally take that as a negative, but the fact that Odyssey is basically copying them on their Stroke Lab putters and All their putters going forward (no more steel I am told)....there HAS to be something real and tangible here

 

I think there are two aspects to this shaft to consider:

 

1.) The science/data side which Quintic data shows (especially with heavier mallets) helps stabilize the shaft & putter face which makes the biggest difference on longer putts.

 

2.) The feel side, which is a personal preference for everyone, hence why there are thousands of driver shaft options.

 

I get the impression that most people aren't validating the data side on Quintic, so they can only truly express the feel side which can end up being a "too each there own" methodology. The difference it makes on off center strikes with the putter is not as noticeable to the eye as say a driver trajectory so I think the average golfer can't tell if it was simply a bad stroke or a slightly off center strike on the putter face.

 

I personally like the feel of the shaft, especially since I prefer very heavy putters, and I also believe on off center strikes and longer putts it can make the difference between holing a putt or not.

 

I already have a second shaft on order for my backup putter, just my 2 cents!

Thousand of driver shafts exist because of how people deliver the club and at different speeds, mostly incorrect swings but swing none the less. Weight matters, kick point, yada yada yada .... This is one shaft with no variation.

 

This putter shaft exists to "reduce twisting" thus making more putts ... All I want is numeric evidence to prove to me that this will hole more putts. That's it. Imagine a "toe strike" provides 1 inch of miss. In order to make a putt of that length, you need a 1/2 inch of miss at most. If this shaft improves it by .25 then who cares because you are still going to miss the putt. This is just an example and not fact or proven in concrete numbers. Just trying to make a point.

 

Just show me transparency with data proving your claims instead of industry bullcrap. If you want to say the improved feel means more confidence and thus you will make more putts via mental attitude then cool but please ... especially nowadays, just don't spew a vision to make a few bucks and dodge the fact that there is zero evidence out there atm. The only data is that apparently with heavier putters it helps, how much who knows, but only on longer putts.

 

I'll have my come to Jesus moment eventually but in the meantime I'm extremely skeptical until I see unbiased data proving their claims.

I'd be shocked if the OEM doesn't have this info readily available from testing on Quintic. It's very easily proven or dis-proven using that system.

 

BTG Technology has a Quintic in their studio... and a robot. I imagine they've used both.

[T-3]

The odyssey shaft has its similarities. Its much lighter then your average putter shaft but also stable like the BGT. I have used the new odyssey 7 with the shaft in question and it performs exactly how my BGT does for the most part.

 

Is this the putter shaft Mickelson used in the Match?

[3offthetee2]

The odyssey shaft has its similarities. Its much lighter then your average putter shaft but also stable like the BGT. I have used the new odyssey 7 with the shaft in question and it performs exactly how my BGT does for the most part.

 

Is this the putter shaft Mickelson used in the Match?

 

Yes it is. Also used by Danny Willett in his recent win.

[kermitm]

Does anyone have an update on this shaft? There website has been down for a few days and I wanted to make sure they were still operating. Thanks for your help

[haakzilla]

Does anyone have an update on this shaft? There website has been down for a few days and I wanted to make sure they were still operating. Thanks for your help

 

...they are still active on social media and the website just appears to be an unfinished version of a new launch -- looks like they are incorporating e-commerce checkout ability directly through their site now --> https://breakthroughgolftech.com/shop/ <-- it's just not done yet? Maybe they need to hire a new webmaster?