Ongoing 3w search ....

[Kale_m]

Opinions wanted

 

3w is a hard club for me.

 

122 mph with the driver

 

Right now I have g410lst for the driver then skipping the 3w I have a g410 3hy at 20*

 

I have a 2hy but just miss the 3w. When hitting it well the 3w is a great stick. I feel like the 2hy and he 3hy go similar distances.

 

Don’t use the 3w off the deck much. That is more the hybrid shot. The 3w is more of a less then driver club off the tee to fit into some shorter holes.

 

Really thinking about a 5w and turn it down to get an open faced or dead square look.

 

Epic flash SZ and g410 have my eye. Had the ts3 at 16.5 and Loved the first one I had and then I cracked it. Got a replacement and it was never the same.. maybe even M5 5w cranked down.

 

Liking the g410 for the fact I can get it really flat to eliminate the left shot hopefully.

 

Have a 80tx pro white coming to go into what ever I settle on.

 

Any opinions?

[JJK947]

Short of going to a tee specific type 3 wood like 3deep or ping stretch, etc. I've settled on the M3 as being one of the best all around fairways I've owned. I have the 3 and 5 woods, just compared to the Callaway EF SZ 3 and 5 I have as well. Off the ground the profile of the cally's is better but the M3 has a deeper face and is better of the tee. It's also easy to find tour issue stuff with lighter headweights that can be hotmelted to adjust the CG location to your preference. And there's also the moveable weight. Also owned the M5 3 wood earlier this season and preferred the tour issue M3's I have. Dialed in with the right shaft I haven't really found anything better. I'm not really a Ping guy but the stretch G400 was very impressive (only comes in low loft), the 410's have too shallow a face for consistent tee use, IMO. It's hard to go wrong with tour issue TM stuff when you can pick loft and face angle specs.

[Kale_m]

I just find with the tm stuff it does not last for me. I have cracked 3 m2tour 3w heads and 2 m1 HL 3w heads as well as a m1 driver head. Hard to justify getting a tour issue head when there is zero warranty on them.

 

I do like the feel of them but they just don’t last

[muniman]

Why not a 4 wood? I struggled with every 3 wood that I had. Went to a TEE CBX 16.5 4 wood with a HZRDUS Red, and it has been a very good club for me. Fairway, or tee box, it is as long as any 3 wood, and launches plenty high enough. Very consistent, too.

[1Mordrid1]

> @muniman said:

> Why not a 4 wood? I struggled with every 3 wood that I had. Went to a TEE CBX 16.5 4 wood with a HZRDUS Red, and it has been a very good club for me. Fairway, or tee box, it is as long as any 3 wood, and launches plenty high enough. Very consistent, too.

 

The same for me going to a 4 wood instead of a 3 wood. I tend to make better swings and contact with the 4 wood.

[Kale_m]

> @1Mordrid1 said:

> > @muniman said:

> > Why not a 4 wood? I struggled with every 3 wood that I had. Went to a TEE CBX 16.5 4 wood with a HZRDUS Red, and it has been a very good club for me. Fairway, or tee box, it is as long as any 3 wood, and launches plenty high enough. Very consistent, too.

>

> The same for me going to a 4 wood instead of a 3 wood. I tend to make better swings and contact with the 4 wood.

 

That’s whAt I am considering. But a 5 wood turned down to open the face

[Signman150]

The G410 fairway wood are very easy to hit.

[Luke7]

Everyone seems to like the Epic SZ

[j.a.]

I can’t recommend enough the Exotics woods, so easy to hit, forgiving and long

[GolfChannel]

Add another to the 4-wood vote. Take a 5-wood and turn it down to 17 or 16.5 and send thanks via PayPal.

 

The G410 is an excellent choice for this, I was getting excellent numbers off the tee and the deck. Also, it’s ludicrous how forgiving it is.

[JJK947]

> @Kale_m said:

> I just find with the tm stuff it does not last for me. I have cracked 3 m2tour 3w heads and 2 m1 HL 3w heads as well as a m1 driver head. Hard to justify getting a tour issue head when there is zero warranty on them.

>

> I do like the feel of them but they just don’t last

 

Hear you on that. Friend of mine has the same issue and just stopped even bothering with the TM stuff.

 

The thing with the opened up 5 wood is most of the time the 5 wood head is pretty small and shallower faced than the 3 and 4 woods in the same model. Not ideal off the tee.

 

If you haven't hit the newer tour edge stuff, that's a must. CBX looks great and is long, low spin, great face profile for tee shots. CB line always looks a little open to my eye and very neutrally biased for CG placement. If you want a cheap experiment, you can go all the way back to the CB2 model. COR is up there with anything being produced today, comes in 13, 15, 16.5 and 18 degree lofts.

[setter02]

You'd be hard pressed to beat out a TEE offering, more so if you crack up others as they have a life time warrenty. I've cracked Cally, TM and Adams gear, never a TEE so far and have had 4 different models in the bags over the years from the CB1, CB2, CB4 Tour and now the E8 Beta.

[pduvie]

I feel that Callaway Epic Flash fills in all the boxes, technology, distance and controling the shoot. I have also bought the diver and the hybrid and love them...make sure that you have the correct shaft.

[greenwavegolfer]

G410 LST is about as fade-biased as you can get with a 3W when you add in the reduced loft and flat settings. I have one and it's a solid performer and I fear I may have even gone too fade biased (need to work in a shaft change but waiting to find a decent deal on something). If you want anti-left and a club that can be a bomber off the tee the G410 LST is definitely something to consider.

[Kale_m]

> @greenwavegolfer said:

> G410 LST is about as fade-biased as you can get with a 3W when you add in the reduced loft and flat settings. I have one and it's a solid performer and I fear I may have even gone too fade biased (need to work in a shaft change but waiting to find a decent deal on something). If you want anti-left and a club that can be a bomber off the tee the G410 LST is definitely something to consider.

 

Only comes in the strong 3w loft though. Probbaly goes to far for my needs. I don’t need a 300 yArd 3w haha.

 

Shorter shaft of the 5w and then the added loft would probably help with a more playable yardage and be more consistent

[ChipNRun]

Give a 4W a shot.

 

A few years ago the TE rep had us hitting new Exotics FW model at a demo day. Majority of us hit the 4W more consistently - and sometimes longer - than the 3W. This included some big hitters who carried their driver 270+. It depends in part on how you come into the ball.

 

And, an extra 1.5* of loft really helps on launch.

[greenwavegolfer]

> @Kale_m said:

> > @greenwavegolfer said:

> > G410 LST is about as fade-biased as you can get with a 3W when you add in the reduced loft and flat settings. I have one and it's a solid performer and I fear I may have even gone too fade biased (need to work in a shaft change but waiting to find a decent deal on something). If you want anti-left and a club that can be a bomber off the tee the G410 LST is definitely something to consider.

>

> Only comes in the strong 3w loft though. Probbaly goes to far for my needs. I don’t need a 300 yArd 3w haha.

>

> Shorter shaft of the 5w and then the added loft would probably help with a more playable yardage and be more consistent

 

What do you mean by "strong 3W loft"? It's not the stretch loft, it's 14.5º and it's adjustable up to 16º and you could certainly cut the length down .5" if you wanted.

[Kale_m]

> @greenwavegolfer said:

> > @Kale_m said:

> > > @greenwavegolfer said:

> > > G410 LST is about as fade-biased as you can get with a 3W when you add in the reduced loft and flat settings. I have one and it's a solid performer and I fear I may have even gone too fade biased (need to work in a shaft change but waiting to find a decent deal on something). If you want anti-left and a club that can be a bomber off the tee the G410 LST is definitely something to consider.

> >

> > Only comes in the strong 3w loft though. Probbaly goes to far for my needs. I don’t need a 300 yArd 3w haha.

> >

> > Shorter shaft of the 5w and then the added loft would probably help with a more playable yardage and be more consistent

>

> What do you mean by "strong 3W loft"? It's not the stretch loft, it's 14.5º and it's adjustable up to 16º and you could certainly cut the length down .5" if you wanted.

 

Could yah.

 

I wish the 5w came in an lst.

 

Adjusting the face to a higher loft closes it. I don’t want that. I want it as open as possible. So that is why the 17.5 lofted down to 16 is appealing to me.

 

And then cutting it down to a shorter length messes with the swing weight. I am sensitive to weight. Want it to stay as close to stock as possible

[BunkerSnot]

hit'em all... off the tee you should be able to find something that will bomb it

[vmann]

Kale_m,

Keep in mind that in order for the loft to be decreased you must have the club face square. In other words, you can't set it very open and have the loft decreased at the same time.

[GolfNPizza2]

Personally I love the Cobra F7. Unlike the F8 and F9 each head has two weights so you can flip the weight forward or back then play with the loft sleeve. I have in both the 3/4 head and 5/6 head, love them they're easy to hit from anywhere

[ago33]

Tour Edge CBX, like a controlled Epic Flash

Or Callaway X Hot Deep

[dmecca2]

The M2 Tour has been my favorite. Looks and feels miles better than the regular M2.

[Davethegolfer]

I didn’t know until yesterday when I was looking at Will People’s site that the M5 comes in a tour issue 3 HL a time 16.5 degrees. I would love to get my hands on one of those. Reckon that could be a beast for you

[Baitkiller]

I would look at older, quality stuff instead of new ultra light. Your just gonna split carbon heads with all that speed and never be happy. Find an Adams Speedline or TEE a few year old, glue in the rebar of your choice and never look back.

[Kale_m]

> @vmann said:

> Kale_m,

> Keep in mind that in order for the loft to be decreased you must have the club face square. In other words, you can't set it very open and have the loft decreased at the same time.

 

I thought that lowering the loft opened the face? That is all you hear on tech talk about adjustable heads.

[Ri_Redneck]

> @Kale_m said:

> > @vmann said:

> > Kale_m,

> > Keep in mind that in order for the loft to be decreased you must have the club face square. In other words, you can't set it very open and have the loft decreased at the same time.

>

> I thought that lowering the loft opened the face? That is all you hear on tech talk about adjustable heads.

 

It does. However the loft change is measured with the face square to target line. If you open it 3* and deliver it to the ball at 1.5*, you will still have a stronger loft. Measured loft and dynamic (delivered to the ball) and never the same. Being a very avid FW player, here's my 2 cents. Since you have 122 driver SS, you will be close to 119-120 with the 3w (an inch or two shorter). At that speed, spin can really get away from you with a higher lofted FW. It appears you want to fill a gap and I'm curious what it is. What are the lofts and distances of your driver, 2hy and 3hy?

 

BT

[Kale_m]

> @Ri_Redneck said:

> > @Kale_m said:

> > > @vmann said:

> > > Kale_m,

> > > Keep in mind that in order for the loft to be decreased you must have the club face square. In other words, you can't set it very open and have the loft decreased at the same time.

> >

> > I thought that lowering the loft opened the face? That is all you hear on tech talk about adjustable heads.

>

> It does. However the loft change is measured with the face square to target line. If you open it 3* and deliver it to the ball at 1.5*, you will still have a stronger loft. Measured loft and dynamic (delivered to the ball) and never the same. Being a very avid FW player, here's my 2 cents. Since you have 122 driver SS, you will be close to 119-120 with the 3w (an inch or two shorter). At that speed, spin can really get away from you with a higher lofted FW. It appears you want to fill a gap and I'm curious what it is. What are the lofts and distances of your driver, 2hy and 3hy?

>

> BT

 

I need to get on a monitor but..

 

I want a 285 club that i can fit into some shorter holes.

 

The 3hy at 20* I can get it out there pretty good. 250 yards

 

2hy I am not sure have not played it a bunch yet. More so on the range

[Ri_Redneck]

> @Kale_m said:

> > @Ri_Redneck said:

> > > @Kale_m said:

> > > > @vmann said:

> > > > Kale_m,

> > > > Keep in mind that in order for the loft to be decreased you must have the club face square. In other words, you can't set it very open and have the loft decreased at the same time.

> > >

> > > I thought that lowering the loft opened the face? That is all you hear on tech talk about adjustable heads.

> >

> > It does. However the loft change is measured with the face square to target line. If you open it 3* and deliver it to the ball at 1.5*, you will still have a stronger loft. Measured loft and dynamic (delivered to the ball) and never the same. Being a very avid FW player, here's my 2 cents. Since you have 122 driver SS, you will be close to 119-120 with the 3w (an inch or two shorter). At that speed, spin can really get away from you with a higher lofted FW. It appears you want to fill a gap and I'm curious what it is. What are the lofts and distances of your driver, 2hy and 3hy?

> >

> > BT

>

> I need to get on a monitor but..

>

> I want a 285 club that i can fit into some shorter holes.

>

> The 3hy at 20* I can get it out there pretty good. 250 yards

>

> 2hy I am not sure have not played it a bunch yet. More so on the range

 

Okay. Estimating a 1.4 smash with your 120 SS gives 170 BS. With 3000 rpm and a 16* launch angle, you'll get about 270-275 carry. Each 1000 additional RPMs drops it down another 10 yds. LA is typically close to loft when a FW is played off the deck or a very low tee, so you could probably get that with a 16*-17.5* FW. Tee it higher with a positive AoA would allow you to play lower loft and get more carry and lower spin. To get exactly what you want, you're going to have to test some clubs. Find a store with a good LM (test it's accuracy using your gamers) and demo 4 or 5. Heads aren't going to really mater that much for you except in durability. Composite heads are going to crack at your SS, it's just a matter of time. I would stick with TEE (and other models that have a track record of not cracking) as some here have mentioned. Distance heads are not needed cause you have plenty of CHS.

 

Just for reference, I play 13*-14.5* 3w and have a 106 SS @ 43.5". It's good for 235 carry for me and rolls out a good bit on a typical fairway. I have Cobra, Mizuno, TEE and Titleist FWs. I find all of those to be pretty solid.

 

BT

[Kale_m]

> @Ri_Redneck said:

> > @Kale_m said:

> > > @Ri_Redneck said:

> > > > @Kale_m said:

> > > > > @vmann said:

> > > > > Kale_m,

> > > > > Keep in mind that in order for the loft to be decreased you must have the club face square. In other words, you can't set it very open and have the loft decreased at the same time.

> > > >

> > > > I thought that lowering the loft opened the face? That is all you hear on tech talk about adjustable heads.

> > >

> > > It does. However the loft change is measured with the face square to target line. If you open it 3* and deliver it to the ball at 1.5*, you will still have a stronger loft. Measured loft and dynamic (delivered to the ball) and never the same. Being a very avid FW player, here's my 2 cents. Since you have 122 driver SS, you will be close to 119-120 with the 3w (an inch or two shorter). At that speed, spin can really get away from you with a higher lofted FW. It appears you want to fill a gap and I'm curious what it is. What are the lofts and distances of your driver, 2hy and 3hy?

> > >

> > > BT

> >

> > I need to get on a monitor but..

> >

> > I want a 285 club that i can fit into some shorter holes.

> >

> > The 3hy at 20* I can get it out there pretty good. 250 yards

> >

> > 2hy I am not sure have not played it a bunch yet. More so on the range

>

> Okay. Estimating a 1.4 smash with your 120 SS gives 170 BS. With 3000 rpm and a 16* launch angle, you'll get about 270-275 carry. Each 1000 additional RPMs drops it down another 10 yds. LA is typically close to loft when a FW is played off the deck or a very low tee, so you could probably get that with a 16*-17.5* FW. Tee it higher with a positive AoA would allow you to play lower loft and get more carry and lower spin. To get exactly what you want, you're going to have to test some clubs. Find a store with a good LM (test it's accuracy using your gamers) and demo 4 or 5. Heads aren't going to really mater that much for you except in durability. Composite heads are going to crack at your SS, it's just a matter of time. I would stick with TEE (and other models that have a track record of not cracking) as some here have mentioned. Distance heads are not needed cause you have plenty of CHS.

>

> Just for reference, I play 13*-14.5* 3w and have a 106 SS @ 43.5". It's good for 235 carry for me and rolls out a good bit on a typical fairway. I have Cobra, Mizuno, TEE and Titleist FWs. I find all of those to be pretty solid.

>

> BT

 

Thanks!

 

Just snagged a tour issue deep faced m2 at 14.5* and almost 2.5* open. Try it with a pro white 80tx shaft I have