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Can't answer this until I get to the range (outdoor and heated) and try out my new SIM TI v2 3 wood (spec'd at 16.4º).  

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

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14 minutes ago, Cruisin1966 said:

Can't answer this until I get to the range (outdoor and heated) and try out my new SIM TI v2 3 wood (spec'd at 16.4º).  

Can you post some pics?

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I have heard the smaller version has a shallower face then the standard model which in theory would make it a little easier to hit of the ground.

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1 hour ago, mcc0819 said:

Can you post some pics?

Sure, I can.  After work I'll take some of it with the SIM TI 5wood I have to give a comparison to size

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Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

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I had a chance to test one a couple months back.  I didn't find it any easier to hit off the deck compared to the retail version.  I did like the smaller head profile.  From trackman numbers, it did launch a degree less and spin was insignificantly less as well off turf. 

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I think a lot depends on your AofA. if you're more of a sweeper, it will be since its more shallow of a face. Or, if you just like smaller, shallower head shapes like me then it will be!

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I've hit it and didn't find it easier to hit off the deck.  Same basic performance just a slightly smaller package.

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On 11/19/2020 at 9:42 AM, mcc0819 said:

Can you post some pics?


Tour Issue v2 3 wood still has the sticker on it, SIM 5w is the other

 

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Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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1 hour ago, Cruisin1966 said:


Tour Issue v2 3 wood still has the sticker on it

 

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I love that it’s 5 wood sized.  I bet it’s much easier off the deck. 

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1 hour ago, EaglesGolf99 said:

@Cruisin1966 so basically the "small v2" 3 Wood is the same size as the retail offering stock 5 Wood? 

Pretty close.  I would say the 3 wood is a little shorter front to back with a face a little deeper (ever so slightly)

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Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

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5 minutes ago, mcc0819 said:

I love that it’s 5 wood sized.  I bet it’s much easier off the deck. 

Hopefully I'll know soon enough.  The temps have warmed enough (to 32ºF) that I can get to an outdoor heated range to see the flight

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Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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1 minute ago, EaglesGolf99 said:

How does it sit at address? 

This one looks square to slightly open (sticker says 2.3 open)

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Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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4 minutes ago, EaglesGolf99 said:

How does it sit at address? 

It's the angle I took the picture.  If I can get out into the garage again, I'll take a proper picture from the top

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Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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1 hour ago, EaglesGolf99 said:

Greatly appreciated, Sir! Thank YOU!


How’s this?

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Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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Although I rarely hit mine off the deck (retail version), I've never had an issue with elevating it either in a round or at the range, I have the 14* closed 1 tick.  Won't say it's the best fairway I've ever played, as I have fond memories of my XHP's before I caved in 2 faces, but it is very good.

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7 hours ago, EaglesGolf99 said:

Much better but still looks closed to me! LOL!

I agree although I am considered legally blind.  If it truly is 2.3 degrees open, then I'm salivating.  I play my driver and 3 wood 2-3 degrees open so that bad boy would be right up my alley. 

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8 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

I agree although I am considered legally blind.  If it truly is 2.3 degrees open, then I'm salivating.  I play my driver and 3 wood 2-3 degrees open so that bad boy would be right up my alley. 

I’m the same way, I had a 2016 tour issue m2 that was 2.5* open and in my opinion still the goat 3wood. Sadly it cracked last year and ever since twist face came out it’s hard to find tour issue heads that have very open faces. 
 

Wish they would just remake the m2 again! 

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27 minutes ago, adam2883 said:

I’m the same way, I had a 2016 tour issue m2 that was 2.5* open and in my opinion still the goat 3wood. Sadly it cracked last year and ever since twist face came out it’s hard to find tour issue heads that have very open faces. 
 

Wish they would just remake the m2 again! 

"ever since twist face came out it’s hard to find tour issue heads that have very open faces."

 

I thought it was just me that noticed that.

 

Why is this?

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22 hours ago, EaglesGolf99 said:

"ever since twist face came out it’s hard to find tour issue heads that have very open faces."

 

I thought it was just me that noticed that.

 

Why is this?

I’m not sure, perhaps the design of twist face limits face angles to an extent or the pros snag up all of the really open models. 
 

I have tried the retail SIM fairway and despite being a higher ball hitting I have trouble with launch off the deck and even contact issues with it. I am very curious as if this v.2 model would help at all...with the down side being a very expensive experiment! I have not hit the SIM Max fairway, those are a lot harder to try with decent shafts since it’s a glued hosel

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Got my hands on one the tour issue small head 3woods. Def like the shape and head size of it but still struggle to elevate it off the deck compared to my gamer. So will likely throw it up on the BST. 

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