Higher spinning players distance irons

[gentles]

I’m looking for a more forgiving players distance Iron - coming from the OG p770 irons, ideally find something with a little more help with similar or smaller sizing with higher spin rates 

 

im a fairly low spin iron player, driver speed right around 110. Using amt white x100s now would likely put something similar into these

 

Primary concern with going straight to the new p770 (or other hollow heads like apex pro or hmb) is that the lower irons won’t spin enough and I’ll end up with higher gaps with wedges.
 

I’m happy with current gapping just looking for a bit more help

 

I’ve narrowed it down to the following, in part due to characteristics but also shape preferences - ap2/t100, zx5, i210, but also open to DTC heads 

 

I don’t feel like an indoor fitting off a mat with a 7 iron tells the whole story about the difference in spin rates through the set so looking to see if others in a similar position can share their experiences

Edited February 26, 2022 by gentles

[iNeedMoreGolf]

Yeah and indoor fitting off a matt with litteraly just a 7 iron is so laughable. I think we can all agree a pro player is probably hitting a whole sets irons to see how they do with different shafts. Unfortunately we dont have these luxurys. The best is when some fitters dont even have certain shafts or brands of stuff period. I went to a guy who had no callaway and about 20 different iron shafts missing... 

 

That being said. Most distance irons are supposed to drop in at a certain decent with a decent spin to hold greens. You can always go far a higher spinning shaft as well for the new p770 or weaken loft a degree or 2.

[Pnwpingi210]

33 minutes ago, gentles said:

I’m looking for a more forgiving players distance Iron - coming from the OG p770 irons, ideally find something with a little more help with similar or smaller sizing with higher spin rates 

 

im a fairly low spin iron player, driver speed right around 110. Using amt white x100s now would likely put something similar into these

 

Primary concern with going straight to the new p770 (or other hollow heads like apex pro or hmb) is that the lower irons won’t spin enough and I’ll end up with higher gaps with wedges.
 

I’m happy with current gapping just looking for a bit more help

 

I’ve narrowed it down to the following, in part due to characteristics but also shape preferences - ap2/t100, zx5, i210, but also open to DTC heads 

 

I don’t feel like an indoor fitting off a mat with a 7 iron tells the whole story about the difference in spin rates through the set so looking to see if others in a similar position can share their experiences

Ping i210 power spec.  

[erock9174]

I struggle with spin and launch (too low) and ended up with ping i200s in power spec.  Was talking to my local ship and the main fitter there says if anyone lacks spin and launch he puts them in I210s. 

[RolandofGilead]

I can’t recommend New Level enough. I played the since-retired 902s before moving to blades and had great gapping at the short end of the bag. Your best bets now are the 902PD (players distance) or 623CB (players cavity). 

[bvanlieu]

I  know this may sound boring, but don't dismiss the 2020 P770. 

 

Lets see:

 

1. Little more help: check

2. Similar or smaller: 77mm in size spot on

3. Higher spin rates: Ok not higher, but not really lower either

 

I also gamed the original 770s but moved to 790s for the 5/6 for 2 years with a blended set. I am now using 2020 P770 for a smidge more help compared to the older 770s and spin rates are pretty much where I expect them to be and no issues stopping them any differently than my older 770s. 

 

By all means you have other things to try and great options (225 not the HMB, T200, Apex Pro, Forged Tec, don't forget PXG: the list goes on and on). Just keep track of actual lofts so you don't get too hung  up on the  'it spins too low' fear. 

 

 

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by bvanlieu

[hammergolf]

1 hour ago, gentles said:

I’m looking for a more forgiving players distance Iron - coming from the OG p770 irons, ideally find something with a little more help with similar or smaller sizing with higher spin rates 

 

im a fairly low spin iron player, driver speed right around 110. Using amt white x100s now would likely put something similar into these

 

Primary concern with going straight to the new p770 (or other hollow heads like apex pro or hmb) is that the lower irons won’t spin enough and I’ll end up with higher gaps with wedges.
 

I’m happy with current gapping just looking for a bit more help

 

I’ve narrowed it down to the following, in part due to characteristics but also shape preferences - ap2/t100, zx5, i210, but also open to DTC heads 

 

I don’t feel like an indoor fitting off a mat with a 7 iron tells the whole story about the difference in spin rates through the set so looking to see if others in a similar position can share their experiences

I210 will have much more spin than others. Your biggest influence on spin is going to be loft, and after that the ball you are using. As a rule of thumb generally hitting off a shot from a mat will spin 500 - 700 rpm’s less than one of grass. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by hammergolf

[kwainio]

T100's are by no means a players distance iron, they're forgiving for their size but they are not going to offer you more of the help you're looking for (they will spin a lot more though).

 

My suggestion would be the i210, Apex Pro and the new 770. All the irons in the "tweener" category that have some tech but not crazy lofts.

[driveandputtmachine]

2 hours ago, gentles said:

I’m looking for a more forgiving players distance Iron - coming from the OG p770 irons, ideally find something with a little more help with similar or smaller sizing with higher spin rates 

 

im a fairly low spin iron player, driver speed right around 110. Using amt white x100s now would likely put something similar into these

 

Primary concern with going straight to the new p770 (or other hollow heads like apex pro or hmb) is that the lower irons won’t spin enough and I’ll end up with higher gaps with wedges.
 

I’m happy with current gapping just looking for a bit more help

 

I’ve narrowed it down to the following, in part due to characteristics but also shape preferences - ap2/t100, zx5, i210, but also open to DTC heads 

 

I don’t feel like an indoor fitting off a mat with a 7 iron tells the whole story about the difference in spin rates through the set so looking to see if others in a similar position can share their experiences

ZX7 are lower spin than most CB, but higher spin than I saw in any of the hollow irons(players distance).  I spin the ball a tad higher than I would like, so I play these and the Srixon Z Star XV or the Snell MTB-X and the results have been very good.

 

The main thing to know is that the player's distance iron's go farther by lowering spin, so if you suffer from too low spin almost ANY iron is this category might be problematic.  The i210 is a good choice for forgiveness, and pretty good distance, and higher spin.  The ZX5 in the long irons have been great for me as well, but I don't think I would like them as much in the short irons.

[Valtiel]

The i210 is what stands out to me given the various loft options, which is really what you should be missing with If you're a low spin player. People often overcomplicate this with irons as though you shouldn't be touching lofts and will mess with everything else around them to their detriment. If an iron isn't spinning enough, bend it weaker, and vice versa. If offset becomes an issue then take that into account, which is why I think the i210 is a great option since you'd likely be moving towards the "weaker" side anyway (less offset). That will depend on personal preference though, but don't go chasing spin with different tech/marketing/whatever. Find an iron you like the look and feel of and mess with loft to hit your spin window. 

[naj959]

My ptx pros spin like a top. Can stop the long irons on a dime in normal conditions. Sucked a 6 iron back that should have been an ace last week.

[maximusppl]

have you tried a higher spinning ball like a ProV1x or TP5x? Especially the new ones....

[RolandofGilead]

2 hours ago, driveandputtmachine said:

I spin the ball a tad higher than I would like, so I play these and the Srixon Z Star XV or the Snell MTB-X and the results have been very good.

The MTB-X is specifically designed for higher iron spin so you may also try the Black. 

[driveandputtmachine]

15 minutes ago, RolandofGilead said:

The MTB-X is specifically designed for higher iron spin so you may also try the Black. 

I know what Snell says on their website, but what I have found for me is that the X spins less on the irons.

 

The X spun more on wedges for me for sure though.

[bnperrone]

Based on my experience I don’t think you need Srixons on your list.

[Cwebb]

Maltby TS-1.  They have a lower COG than most everything else in this category...and are easy to adjust for loft