TSR3

[russian7]

On 4/16/2023 at 4:16 AM, Rob_X said:

Any update?  Curious how it worked out.

They never had time i got tired of waiting sold it went to the LtdX LS an couldnt be happier much better results 

[russian7]

On 4/15/2023 at 6:02 PM, chadly643 said:

Most likely scenario that comes to mind is that the loft of your ordered club is substantially higher than what you demoed. I’d get back with the fitter and hit it side by side with their demo head. I’m sure someone will work with you and get this resolved whether it’s the fitter or Titleist or both. 

Wish I could have got back on trackman I would assume the same, it had to be different 

[Stavo]

Agreed with most here on variances with sims. I was fit into a TSR3.

 

During my fitting w/ Trackman: ball speed 155-160, spin 2300, height 95, carry 280

Random sim session yesterday w/ GC quad: ball speed 155, spin 1900, height 75, carry 275

 

On both, pretty reasonable performance. On the course, this thing has been a beast. I have never hit so many fairways over 3-4 rounds with this driver. I think across all the rounds, I've had one slice and one pull left. It's super forgiving, and I have mine set to T1 since I usually miss slightly toe side.

 

Sad to hear you had a strange experience, but on the course mine has performed for me and I'm super happy. 

[iNeedMoreGolf]

21 hours ago, tipperi said:

New drivers are flirting with spin across the board trying to be "trackman warriors" which is ultimately what sells clubs.  I just went through this with a Paradym and against my better judgement getting fit on the range.

More and More I find myself impressed with the tee balls hit by players at my club using drivers that are 6,8,10 years old because even the "bad" ones still launch and carry.  The guys (like me) chasing the latest and greatest hit 3-4 long knuckleballs a round but the bad ones are unplayable. 

In the OP's case it sounds like a difference in the head tested vs what was received is creating havoc.  From experience, a ball that is spinning "too much" wont cost you 30+ yards. Generally its the high floaty strike that comes off the top of the face that launches high and doesnt have enough spin to stay in the air, or the high toe right to left ball that doesnt spin enough that can be the distance killer. 

Well said. Few and far in between are the big shots we are searching for. The bad ones and average ones are below average though. Im seeing tsr2 is also very low spin too. Im starting to think titliest driver just aint for me. I played a rental ts2 in arizona and it was hitting long high ones. Not sure what happend with the new lines. 

[Mahamilto]

Fitting shouldn’t be for total distance and best fitters know this. 
 

Unfortunately most big box fitters focus only on ballspeed and distance… with virtually no attention paid to ideal spin (just low to get distance) nor dispersion. I’m confident TM makes drivers to max distance and sells a boatload this way. Despite all I know about golf and fitting I ended up with a crazy ballspeed crazy long Stealth plus that missed on both sides of the fairway and was a train wreck to my game. Thing was like C8 swing weight which is part of why I murdered it… and part of why I couldn’t control it. TM is making very light drivers these days and it’s no accident. 
 

A good fitter knows how to fit and it’s not for pure distance. It’s consistent and controlled longest distance you can get. 
 

Pete’s Golf in Long Island is a great fitter.

Increased my swing weight to D4, matched launch and spin to a controlled level, and set me up with a TSR3 that goes straight and has a consistent slightly left miss. No more two way miss. Way better spin/launch consistency. 
 

Titleist makes consistent drivers that are very forgiving and easy to setup. TSR3 was better for me than TSR2 because of the ability to place the weight behind my miss side (T2). 
 

TSR3 is by far the most consistent driver I’ve ever owned, but on monitor it is shorter on the best drives compared to my stealth + (it spins more and had a bit less ball speed on best hits). Mishits with TSR3 were similar to stealth speed wise, but this is speaking on distance/monitor terms only. 

I’m real life/on course the TSR3 is significantly longer because I’m landing in the short stuff. It’s way better on misses too because I’m not wildly missing right and left and I can play the right side of the fairway and most drives are at minimum playable.
 

Be very careful with fitting. It’s so easy to walk in and be wowed by ball speed and low spin/total distance. But on course the driver to lower your scores will be consistent! One way miss, consistent launch and spin, enough spin to make misses not nosedive. 
 

Very Low spin makes misses worse just as fast as very high spin. 

Edited April 19, 2023 by Mahamilto

[FSUgolfer]

I just picked up the TSR3 in 8° with a ventus red 6tx. Fitting had the dispersion far less than my old gamer rogue subzero 9 with even flow black 6s and carry was 6 yards longer. The balls also had a tendency to drop right which is interesting. I was just about sold with the TSR4 but when I had come back for the second fitting session my swing was off leading to poor results. the first session the TSR4 felt like it was made for my swing. The second, far from it. This lead me to quickly and easily select the TSR3 as it is a far more practical option for both on and off days. 
 

I think the bombs aren’t as long as the rogue sub zero but so far this setup seems to eliminate my most dreadful miss, snap hook penalties leading to quick lost shots.

Edited April 19, 2023 by FSUgolfer
Shaft type

[cac022]

I got fitted for my TSR3 9 with Tensei 1k black 65 a few weeks ago.

 

On the range with trackman saw my fastest ballspeeds yet at 165 and the right miss was manageable without ballooning up too much. Perfect I thought.

 

On course there has been a struggle as I was launching it much lower than the fitting day. However, 

reading this thread I tried using a much higher tee height which has helped a lot.

 

My only worry is I like hitting some second serve drives where I need to hit the fairway and just hit it off speed (windy and tight courses here in Scotland). When I try that shot the lack of speed/spin means it just drops out the sky. 

 

Will keep testing for a bit but may look at the G430 LST

[bazinky]

I've just pulled the trigger on a TSR3. Surprisingly, I was finding the TSR3 better than the TSR2 on my bad swings. The TSR3 lost more distance than the R2 on off-center strikes, but the lateral dispersion was better with TSR3. My home course is tight and tree-lined, so lateral dispersion on my misses is a lot more important than the total distance.

 

Also doesn't hurt that the TSR3 launches like a rocket when you actually center it!

Edited April 19, 2023 by bazinky
clarification

[FSUgolfer]

4 hours ago, cac022 said:

I got fitted for my TSR3 9 with Tensei 1k black 65 a few weeks ago.

 

On the range with trackman saw my fastest ballspeeds yet at 165 and the right miss was manageable without ballooning up too much. Perfect I thought.

 

On course there has been a struggle as I was launching it much lower than the fitting day. However, 

reading this thread I tried using a much higher tee height which has helped a lot.

 

My only worry is I like hitting some second serve drives where I need to hit the fairway and just hit it off speed (windy and tight courses here in Scotland). When I try that shot the lack of speed/spin means it just drops out the sky. 

 

Will keep testing for a bit but may look at the G430 LST

Agreed about height. I’m a high ball hitter. My jaw dropped my first swing on the range from how low it went. Fortunately we got into low to mid 2’s with spin on the monitor for straight to fades as a means to maintain control the ball.

[stryper]

2 hours ago, bazinky said:

Also doesn't hurt that the TSR3 launches like a rocket when you actually center it!

I saw that first hand the other day on the range when I let a friend of mine (Class A PGA guy) hit my TSR3.  As a Callaway staffer (he currently plays the Paradym), even he was impressed.  And when the ball disappeared over the horizon, I grabbed my bag and vowed never to play golf again. 🏌️‍♂️

[iNeedMoreGolf]

Im seeing a trend of very low ball flights with low spin. Ive teed this driver wayy up and for some reason cant get the middle or above. Weirdest thing ive ever seen. Also saw accuracy on monitor and then way off irl. Not the same case switching back to a different drive. Love the drivers looks but i think it only performs for certain swings. The least forgiving driver ive ever played imo. 

[Mahamilto]

1 hour ago, iNeedMoreGolf said:

Im seeing a trend of very low ball flights with low spin. Ive teed this driver wayy up and for some reason cant get the middle or above. Weirdest thing ive ever seen. Also saw accuracy on monitor and then way off irl. Not the same case switching back to a different drive. Love the drivers looks but i think it only performs for certain swings. The least forgiving driver ive ever played imo. 

Sounds like a terrible fit in shaft or swing weight. 
 

The head, independent of other variables, shouldn’t particularly influence your strike pattern…

 

but the shaft certainly can and will. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by Mahamilto

[FSUgolfer]

26 minutes ago, Mahamilto said:

Sounds like a terrible fit in shaft or swing weight. 
 

The head, independent of other variables, shouldn’t particularly influence your strike pattern…

 

but the shaft certainly can and will. 

This head is far deeper than most if not all modern retail offering across brands. If you had used a shallow face in a prior driver I can see a deeper than usual face being a contributing factor to lower strike patterns. Not excessive, but some adjustment period, absolutely. 

[Mahamilto]

17 minutes ago, FSUgolfer said:

This head is far deeper than most if not all modern retail offering across brands. If you had used a shallow face in a prior driver I can see a deeper than usual face being a contributing factor to lower strike patterns. Not excessive, but some adjustment period, absolutely. 

Sure, but changing tee height should largely mitigate this. If you are coming out of the bottom consistently I’d scrutinize shaft length and profile heavily. 
 

Even on TSR3 vs SIM original (shallowest modern head I can think of right now), a CENTER strike in sim wouldn’t be at the bottom of the TSR…

maybe a bit below the equator… but not bottom. 
 

Post sounded like this player his hitting it very low on the face, not just a bit below middle. 

[AC-Golf]

I picked up a TSR3 8* and compared to my Rogue Max LS I picked up 2.5 mph of ball speed and dropped 200 rpm of spin.  Launch and clubhead speed identical.  This according to my mevo.  29/35 shots very consistent numbers.

 

I played a round Saturday and hit 13/14 fairways.  I've had no consistency issues.  I do tee it high, and my strikes are middle of the face and up.  But I really like this driver and haven't had a single issue. 

[iNeedMoreGolf]

46 minutes ago, Mahamilto said:

Sure, but changing tee height should largely mitigate this. If you are coming out of the bottom consistently I’d scrutinize shaft length and profile heavily. 
 

Even on TSR3 vs SIM original (shallowest modern head I can think of right now), a CENTER strike in sim wouldn’t be at the bottom of the TSR…

maybe a bit below the equator… but not bottom. 
 

Post sounded like this player his hitting it very low on the face, not just a bit below middle. 

Yeah like all my other drivers are middle and up with occasional bottom one. By bottom i mean low and very low. I miss toe and heel probably average but nothing crazy. This though... this is something i never experienced before. I mean full ball above driver is still below center slightly. Thats just so wierd. Its a tensei 55 stiff. Play it in my other driver and its great 250 plus in play. Super low shots 225 barely. Hit a few 260 but it felt like a miracle had to happen in order. Other drivers swing and watch it fly.

[mizuno player]

I ordered a TSR3 in 10° with the GD AD UB.

 

I wanted to have something a little more accurate. I've always used 8.5/9° heads. With the tsr I was hoping to launch it a little higher, straighter and keep the spin down in a playable zone. 

 

First time out today and it appears to do what I wanted. No wild misses. ( Sometimes trying to hit my 9 stealth + higher I would alter my swing in a bad way and miss it wildly.)

 

I was worried the shaft may spin a few hundred rpm's more than I wanted. I'll get on trackman in a week or so and see real numbers. But the eye year was really good. Such a great looking club. 

 

[Mahamilto]

On 4/19/2023 at 10:48 PM, iNeedMoreGolf said:

Yeah like all my other drivers are middle and up with occasional bottom one. By bottom i mean low and very low. I miss toe and heel probably average but nothing crazy. This though... this is something i never experienced before. I mean full ball above driver is still below center slightly. Thats just so wierd. Its a tensei 55 stiff. Play it in my other driver and its great 250 plus in play. Super low shots 225 barely. Hit a few 260 but it felt like a miracle had to happen in order. Other drivers swing and watch it fly.

Check the swing weight of both drivers with a fitter. 
 

Something very not right and I’d check off variables. It’s deep faced but missing wildly low consistently sounds like an issue delivering the head…

[onafriday]

The TSR3, for me, has been a little more shaft sensitive than most.  
 

I was actually hitting it much too high with an Olyss (Aldila Tour Green profile) until I grabbed an old Tensei 1K White from the garage on a whim, and it brought down into a much preferred window.  
 

That’s at C-1, the most open/fade/loft adjustment.

 

awesome stick 
 

My $0.02

Edited April 23, 2023 by onafriday

[iNeedMoreGolf]

7 hours ago, Mahamilto said:

Check the swing weight of both drivers with a fitter. 
 

Something very not right and I’d check off variables. It’s deep faced but missing wildly low consistently sounds like an issue delivering the head…

Yeah. Played a different driver today and consistently hit middle and higher with only one shot low. I gave up on tsr3 🙁 after 2 rounds of same results and switching next round and seeing way different results. Something clearly is off and i also feel tsr3 on ok shots was still falling out of the air wierdly and on a low trajectory. Maybe too low spinning low trajectory which is odd because i got it in the tensei 55g stiff shaft and kicked it up to 10.5 degrees. Im a high ball hitter so i never thought id see a club go too low. I think its a great club for the right swing and swing speed maybe. Not for me i guess. Gorgeous driver 😟

[kkennedy]

Anyone have thoughts on TSR3 vs TSR4? 

[FSUgolfer]

The TSR3 was far more forgiving. My fitting was indoors, but day 2 of testing my swing was off slightly and I was punished with the TSR4. Toe shots were quick snap hooks and I lost confidence easily. I had two toe hits in my last round with the TSR3 which resulted in a small draw, still in the fairway. I didn’t see much of a performance difference with the TSR3, either. You may lose some workability but I love how straight this wants to fly. 

 

Forgiveness being an issue is coming from a low handicap strong driver of the golf ball who always plays deep club heads with weight forward and low forgiveness. I don’t see much of reason why the TSR4 is needed from a practical standpoint. 

[Stall]

Quite interested in this topic. Got fitted by a very well renowned specialist place into a TSR3. Raijin shaft, 15g lighter than what was in my 915. Was fine in the hit but for two weeks since i got it iv been hitting everything out the heel. Even when i put it in the same settings as my 915. Granted it is a 10degree as opposed to 11.5.

 

Tonight i relented & put it into max height,max draw setting, A3. I was nailing it and it had straightened right up. Even got my draw back. A bit concerned however that its at odds with what they fitted me. I'll likely phone them as they did say if it wasnt working to get in touch.

 

Any ideas if a lighter shaft and i suppose flatter lie would lead to heal strikes?

[uglande]

On 2/9/2023 at 10:30 PM, Brooks_Cupcake said:

Not accurate at all. Very playable across the design of that face, and specifically in keeping spin in check.

Agree 100 percent. My results are solid everywhere across the middle part of the face plate. Obviously a driver of any kind will not do much to help a severe heel or toe strike. But the "sweet spot," as it were, on the TSr3 feels as large as any other driver I have tested. But the results, ball speed and (most noticeably) feel with the TSr3 are just awesome. I just sold my TSr2, which I also liked, but the 3 is giving me at least 2-3 MPH more ball speed with less spin and slightly better feel (although both feel excellent).