It's good to be The King!

[manku]

https://nypost.com/2024/04/24/sports/tiger-woods-pga-tour-loyalty-worth-100-million-as-paydays-revealed/

 

 

[Hawkeye77]

No idea why retired players (unless they mean Champions Tour and there was some real and strategic reason to date nobody knows about to reward them) are getting a nickel (that's $75m they could have saved or further spread out, IMO) but nice they were able to come up with some structure to provide some money, however called, and of course it wouldn't be equal.

Edited April 24 by Hawkeye77

[mosesgolf]

Gotta keep the big Alphas of the Tour happy.  They're the ones who make or break the PGA Tour.  It's comical some of the posts I've read here lately implying the Tour is in trouble because of decreased TV ratings and LIV yada yada.  The Tour is in a great place and flush with cash.

[bscinstnct]

Tiger be like

 

 

[cdnglf]

55 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

No idea why retired players (unless they mean Champions Tour and there was some real and strategic reason to date nobody knows about to reward them) are getting a nickel (that's $75m they could have saved or further spread out, IMO) but nice they were able to come up with some structure to provide some money, however called, and of course it wouldn't be equal.

I think if you’re Jack, Trevino, Watson, etc the “fairness” argument is: you guys just sold something that I was a big part of building, where’s my share?

 

Legally, no idea what claim they specifically might have made. But surely they could have sued for something and this may have been a preemptive move to prevent that. Even just keeping the legends on-side has some value.

Edited April 24 by cdnglf

[agood3putt]

Hahaha what a joke. Tigers going to be on the couch or the champions tour in several years, JT has been poo poo along with Spieth in comparison to Scottie. And Rory I can see he’s been the parrot for Jay for some time now

 

Looks like Phil was right all along. Scottie should be getting a higher price tag that the four of the top earners 

Edited April 24 by agood3putt

[redfirebird08]

56 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

No idea why retired players (unless they mean Champions Tour and there was some real and strategic reason to date nobody knows about to reward them) are getting a nickel (that's $75m they could have saved or further spread out, IMO) but nice they were able to come up with some structure to provide some money, however called, and of course it wouldn't be equal.

I’m all in favor of some equity going to guys such as Lee Trevino, Jack Nicklaus, Tom Watson, and so forth. 

[golferdude54]

I can't help but think of this scene from South Park when I see PGA Tour's response to LIV. Just replace AIDS with LIV golf and there you have it!

 

 

Edited April 24 by golferdude54

[CDLgolf]

His accident was in Feb of 2021. Has he played in 1 full pga tour event since then (not counting majors) ? And every year he gets most pip money and now an extra 100 mil. 

Wow, that's just amazing to me. I know he was the greatest to play the game but if he's not capable of playing anymore why keep giving him millions and millions.

[tiderider]

zero possibility of satisfying anyone, really ... 

 

if you haven't seen Worth, decent flick ... determining worth ain't easy ... 

 

 

[rblmp32]

5 minutes ago, CDLgolf said:

His accident was in Feb of 2021. Has he played in 1 full pga tour event since then (not counting majors) ? And every year he gets most pip money and now an extra 100 mil. 

Wow, that's just amazing to me. I know he was the greatest to play the game but if he's not capable of playing anymore why keep giving him millions and millions.

 

 

The simplest, most accurate answer imo is that he still moves the needle.  Way more so than any of the current crop of players.  

[redfirebird08]

5 minutes ago, CDLgolf said:

His accident was in Feb of 2021. Has he played in 1 full pga tour event since then (not counting majors) ? And every year he gets most pip money and now an extra 100 mil. 

Wow, that's just amazing to me. I know he was the greatest to play the game but if he's not capable of playing anymore why keep giving him millions and millions.

Why did LIV offer $800M to Tiger when they knew he could not play golf very often? He has influence on the younger players like McIlroy & Scheffler, and so many others. If LIV got Tiger on board 2 years ago, they would have gotten all the younger players to follow him as well. 

[Ferguson]

As Lee Van Cleef would say, "that's a tidy sum."

[smashdn]

The kids don't even know to go to IMDB to find out who LVC is.

[kmbean]

We play to grow the game.

[mosesgolf]

Having a feeling this money comes with some strings attached like Tiger et al being the face and voice of the future Tour-a good thing obviously.  When, where or if the LIV players come back they will be "Tainted".  😁

 

I know Monahan got a lof heat but it's looking like he pulled off a "Crimson Sky" move.  For all you Shogun fans. 

Edited April 24 by mosesgolf

[bscinstnct]

50 minutes ago, CDLgolf said:

His accident was in Feb of 2021. Has he played in 1 full pga tour event since then (not counting majors) ? And every year he gets most pip money and now an extra 100 mil. 

Wow, that's just amazing to me. I know he was the greatest to play the game but if he's not capable of playing anymore why keep giving him millions and millions.

 

Interest in TW far eclipses that of anyone else. 
 

More interest in TW DFLin the Masters  than Scheffler winning

 

And Rory? 🤣

 

 

Edited April 24 by bscinstnct

[R_Swanson]

On 4/24/2024 at 2:16 PM, mosesgolf said:

Having a feeling this money comes with some strings attached like Tiger et al being the face and voice of the future Tour-a good thing obviously.  When, where or if the LIV players come back they will be "Tainted".  😁

 

I know Monahan got a lof heat but it's looking like he pulled off a "Crimson Sky" move.  For all you Shogun fans. 

 

8 yr vesting schedule, yada yada yada....

 

 

 

 

The money is nothing compared to LIV.  But the guys needed to get something.  Monahan will forever look like an idiot for not taking the Saudi's calls years ago.

Edited April 26 by pga43
removed link off Golfwrx

[CDLgolf]

I just don't see how dividing up 2/3 of the 1.5 billion they got from the SSG between 193 players helps the game 5 or 10 years from now.

[Rustynuts]

And this is why I no longer watch the Professional golf

[miami1023]

23 minutes ago, CDLgolf said:

I just don't see how dividing up 2/3 of the 1.5 billion they got from the SSG between 193 players helps the game 5 or 10 years from now.

Pretty unprecedented strategy. This is going to be a sh*t show. Never seen a business give a performance bonus to an independent contractor years after they did the work. 

[bscinstnct]

I’d be surprised if TW won’t bet getting more like 

 

1Billion 💰 

 

out of this. All kinds of deals to cook up and get him in on. 
 

 

[Chopper Dave]

46 minutes ago, tomjas said:

They gave him $12 million in PIP money last year for promoting his sponsors on social media so don’t see how this is a surprise 

but we love to see players EARN their money!

[Mcfly]

“Equity Investment”.  As my dad would have said, “Equity Shmekwity”.  

I put the over/under at 3 months until we see the “Diversity Investment” and the “Inclusion Investment” roll out for the behind the scenes tour employees.  
 

[Hawkeye77]

2 hours ago, cdnglf said:

I think if you’re Jack, Trevino, Watson, etc the “fairness” argument is: you guys just sold something that I was a big part of building, where’s my share?

 

Legally, no idea what claim they specifically might have made. But surely they could have sued for something and this may have been a preemptive move to prevent that. Even just keeping the legends on-side has some value.

I’m guessing fear of lawsuit was not a motivation. 

Edited April 24 by Hawkeye77

[Hawkeye77]

27 minutes ago, Rustynuts said:

And this is why I no longer watch the Professional golf

It’s not “volunteer golf”!

[mosesgolf]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

I’m guessing fear of lawsuit was not a motivation. 

I'm guessing it was to say THANK YOU for those who paved the way.

[Rustynuts]

6 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

It’s not “volunteer golf”!

Yeah but up until recently the earned what they won, now it  has changed to be more like other sports

[notsohard]

Growing the game Jay.

Knee-jerk reactions don't end up well.

[Hawkeye77]

It seems more about how to deal with a threat and $$$ is the only real way.  Couldn’t stand pat and not too many options other than whatever barrroom wisdom gets “dispensed” - there aren’t dummies running the Tour.