The 1 Thing You Hate About Your Favourite OEM

[karstens_ghost]

Hi guys,

 

Been a while since I've started a thread. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Here's mine.

 

I'm a Ping aficionado, and I mostly use their gear. I have a soft spot because I grew up in Phoenix.

 

The 1 Thing that I really, really do not like is their adapter for their woods, because it turns the grip and shaft on every adjustment. It's awful because I can't use an Align grip, and thus I've stopped using their driver. I know, I could choose to never adjust, but that's not the point. Others don't have this problem, and I wish they'd sort it out.

 

What's your 1 Thing you hate (or really, really not like) about your favourite OEM?

[R.Patrick]

The feel of Titleist irons.

[SnowbirdTom]

18 minutes ago, karstens_ghost said:

Hi guys,

 

Been a while since I've started a thread. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Here's mine.

 

I'm a Ping aficionado, and I mostly use their gear. I have a soft spot because I grew up in Phoenix.

 

The 1 Thing that I really, really do not like is their adapter for their woods, because it turns the grip and shaft on every adjustment. It's awful because I can't use an Align grip, and thus I've stopped using their driver. I know, I could choose to never adjust, but that's not the point. Others don't have this problem, and I wish they'd sort it out.

 

What's your 1 Thing you hate (or really, really not like) about your favourite OEM?

 

Last I checked, they all do that.  I know my Mizuno, Bridgestone and Srixon do.

[poor_putting]

42 minutes ago, SnowbirdTom said:

 

Last I checked, they all do that.  I know my Mizuno, Bridgestone and Srixon do.

Callaway does not, titleist will stay in the starting position IF your setting starts with A. You can cycle through 1-4 no problem.

 

its one of the reasons I like callaway woods so much. 
 

For actual adjustability, Titleist has the best system, adjusting loft and lie separately.

 

As for why I dislike most about an OEM, I don’t have a favorite but here’s a couple things I don’t like:

 

Callaway - any of their MB’s since the 2018 model, and that they went away from the x forged model that same year. Also that they have a ton of “tour only” models that I’m sure would benefit a lot of people.

 

every other brand - agree with the OP on the driver adjustability

 

taylormade - nothing I like about that brand

 

 

[dekez]

The sole wear on the Titleist T iron line.  They look like I've dragged them on concrete after just 20 rounds of play.

[bvanlieu]

I have a lot of brands I like and respect, but gotta say as a player of Cally woods for years now, their headcover game has deteriorated as prices have gone up. 

 

Not just bad looking (subjective), HC quality is utter crap. Even the older Customs San Diego HC's which were better leather (or leather like objects) don't stand the test of time for a $50+ product.

 

 

[1puttTUT]

Mizuno - lefty options 

[mat562]

The change from minimalist chic and widespread tour and low handicap usage to a gaudy logo and less aesthetically pleasing head shapes that make you do a double take when you now see anyone playing them at any level.

 

Ignore my current bag. I'm talking about Mizuno. 

 

 

[Wayside]

Their Social Media. Their use of ‘influencers’, hyperbole, and giving loads of clubs to all sorts of eejits just because other eejits watch their videos. 
 

I appreciate ‘Growing the Game’ and all that, but I am old. Bah humbug, etc. If people on the course next to me start running about like teenage girls at Taylor Swift concerts and chest bumping just for hitting a fairway, I will be forced to drink more. 

 

[tipperi]

This is a more recent thing but its gone on for several cycles and i will never understand it.

Vokey K grind is described as the "ultimate bunker grind" but it's not available in a sand wedge.  For years I've wanted a 54 K and a 58 M which would solve so many issues, instead im forced to play more bounce in my lob wedge than my sand wedge if I want the help out of the K.  Of course, I could just get better out of the bunker with practice but thats not the point here...

[UPandDOWN4double]

5 minutes ago, Wayside said:

Their Social Media. Their use of ‘influencers’, hyperbole, and giving loads of clubs to all sorts of eejits just because other eejits watch their videos. 
 

I appreciate ‘Growing the Game’ and all that, but I am old. Bah humbug, etc. If people on the course next to me start running about like teenage girls at Taylor Swift concerts and chest bumping just for hitting a fairway, I will be forced to drink more. 

 

Your jealousy is showing but we don't have to talk about it.

[bogeyk]

I hate that PING has gone from having irons that were designed and finished in a utilitarian that didn’t seem to wear.  I went from being a PING only guy to using any number of brands.  I had a set of Zing2 irons that I used for years and they always looked awesome.   I also don’t care that they moved away from being able to order older models.  I’d pay a fair amount of money for a set of Zing2 irons 4-sw with current groove standards and original lofts. 

[dugue4]

Price

[Wayside]

20 minutes ago, UPandDOWN4double said:

Your jealousy is showing but we don't have to talk about it.

Nah. Why would I be jealous of people I think are utter halfwits? I see a lot of people saying things like that when ‘influencers’ get criticised, but I don’t get it 🤷🏻‍♂️ 
 

As I said, I’m old, also British. I just don’t get all the shouting and whooping and over-reacting to a half-decent shot. It doesn’t align with the previous image of my previously favourite brand.

Edited May 9 by Wayside

[gvogel]

Titleist.  Their clubs are made for good ball strikers; they don't have enough "easy to hit" clubs for older guys - Ping do a better job in this segment.

 

As the successors to the TSR1 clubs evolve, perhaps Titleist will become that player.

[DutchGolf]

Ping and driver sound 

[bogeyk]

5 minutes ago, dugue4 said:

Price

Golf clubs are expensive, but buying habits have changed as well where people believe they need the latest and greatest.  People spend a lot of money for marginal gains and marketing.  The PING SI3 driver was released in ‘03 for $399 dollars.  I’m not calling you out specifically, but just mentioning that people spend a lot of money for something that may not help their scores at all. If you spend $1000 or so for a set of irons and keep them for five plus years it’s not so bad. 

[GeauxGolfLSU]

1 hour ago, tipperi said:

This is a more recent thing but its gone on for several cycles and i will never understand it.

Vokey K grind is described as the "ultimate bunker grind" but it's not available in a sand wedge.  For years I've wanted a 54 K and a 58 M which would solve so many issues, instead im forced to play more bounce in my lob wedge than my sand wedge if I want the help out of the K.  Of course, I could just get better out of the bunker with practice but thats not the point here...

 

Agreed on this. I bent my 58K to 56 because I wanted the benefit of a high bounce, easy to get out of the bunker sand wedge without messing up my gapping. Doing that allowed me to play a 60T for the low bounce lob wedge. But I'd really rather a 56K.

[Adam B]

4 hours ago, SnowbirdTom said:

 

Last I checked, they all do that.  I know my Mizuno, Bridgestone and Srixon do.

All except Callaway. Too bad callaway drivers are hideous (except Rogue ST)

[Kai Slater]

I'm pretty much a Callaway guy.....their headcovers are awful.

[SnowbirdTom]

26 minutes ago, Adam B said:

All except Callaway. Too bad callaway drivers are hideous (except Rogue ST)

Yeah, I gave up on Cally several years ago.  Last was Epic Flash driver.

[kiawah]

Don't have a clear cut favorite so here are my takes on the few I like the most

Titleist: Lackluster driver performance

TaylorMade: Paint chips on the putters make them look horrible quickly

Callaway: Hot faced irons have gone way too far, dispersion distance wise is awful on all non-MB offerings, ruining otherwise great odyssey putters by using cheap inserts

Ping: the worst feeling irons on the planet and worst sounding driver on the market but quality and performance is good enough to give them a pass

 

[Joselo]

4 hours ago, bvanlieu said:

I have a lot of brands I like and respect, but gotta say as a player of Cally woods for years now, their headcover game has deteriorated as prices have gone up. 

 

Not just bad looking (subjective), HC quality is utter crap. Even the older Customs San Diego HC's which were better leather (or leather like objects) don't stand the test of time for a $50+ product.

 

 

 

you beat me to this 

i just moved on into the new smoke woods and the headcovers are white and low quality...... white (WTF white!?) they will end up looking horrible im expecting by the end of the year

[Glock917]

Do not have a favorite but definitely bias towards the big four OEMs that take most of the market share.

 

But I do genuinely hate the specific tour only heads. Looking at TM and cally specifically. 

 

No TM player is playing an off the rack driver head and cally players are playing some variant TD head not available to the public. 

 

Like if tour guys play them we are going to want to try them and play them. No questions ask. Make it available to us and not some only for tour professionals crap. 

[379]

I like them all, so here we go…

 

Ping - ugly woods that look draw biased 

Titleist - vokey is overrated and unforgiving for normal hacks 

Callaway - don’t trust their quality for the price 

Taylormade - twist face is for a niche market 

 

 

 

 

[RoverTiger]

3 hours ago, dugue4 said:

Price

Yep. Big reason why I have largely gone the DTC and used route. 

[ae1985]

Ping - drivers, woods sound bad to me

[Long_Left]

20 minutes ago, 379 said:

I like them all, so here we go…

 

Callaway - don’t trust their quality for the price 

 

 

 

 

 

I play a bunch of brands so I can't claim a favorite, but I have a strong dislike for Callaway products as I've seen WAY too many iron sets show up that aren't even close to build spec. Wrong lengths, swing weight variety packs, loft and lie issues seem to be present in much higher numbers than other manufacturers.

 

 

[BagofToast]

Big Taylormade guy, really only 2 gripes.

 

770 doesn't look good over the ball

Lack of graphite shaft options in driving irons

[WiscoLefty]

I’ve got 2. 
 

Mizuno: lack of lefty options

 

PING: high bounce on their irons