Taylormade R1 Graphics

[wobgon]

[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1353737119' post='5971809']
[quote name='lukesmurf59' timestamp='1353733164' post='5971675']
I really wish they would just make good looking drivers. I hate these ugly things. The callaways with the different colors on the bottom are plenty. Why can't drivers look good too? I know it makes them money but goodness I would have a little more self respect. These look like all those ridiculous $2k civic hatchbacks that all the "gangstas" "trick out." Whatever happened to something beautiful that also performed? The performance should speak for the driver, not its gaudy looks. I think a little color can be fun but all the Taylormade ones just have a certain look about them that I don't like. They also perform no better than anything else (often worse) so I cannot justify purchasing their clubs. I've bought ugly clubs before but you can only make ugly clubs when the ugliness provides certain, improved performance. I used to play a square driver because I hit it straighter than anything. But paint doesn't change anything. Paint it pretty.
[/quote]
I love it when a "hater" says that the TM drivers don't work as well as everyone else then you look at the drivers in tour players bags that are not TM Staff and yet are playing TM drivers (and RBZ FWs). Then look and see how many Tour players (on all the major tours) use Titleist, Ping, Callaway, Wilson, and some other drivers that are not not those staffs. Almost no one uses these other companies drivers unless they are Staff players of those companies.
Anyone care to guess what that means??
[/quote]
It means another wrx'r childishly called someone a hater for not liking a silly thing like a golf club.

[Ramathorn]

You'd think some of these opinions on WRX would be leaked into Taylormade's hands??? Free feedback from club ho's worldwide (hint hint.)

Can't tell you how much I agree with a lot of you guys, the graphics are AWFUL. I can't say it enough. Make a custom option for no crown graphics, minimum go without it on the TP models. Really turning off the purists out there.

Recent golf club pet peeves:
1. Cleveland 'zip grooves' etching running down either side of the grooves on wedge lineups.
2. Every Taylormade metalwood crown graphic.....for that matter any type of writing on crowns of metalwoods.
3. The sudden need to use every color of the rainbow for metalwoods.

K.I.S.S. Anyone?!?!?! Thank you Titleist, Mizuno and a few others for saving my sanity.

[MCoz]

[quote name='Ramathorn' timestamp='1353746976' post='5971927']
You'd think some of these opinions on WRX would be leaked into Taylormade's hands??? Free feedback from club ho's worldwide (hint hint.)

Can't tell you how much I agree with a lot of you guys, the graphics are AWFUL. I can't say it enough. Make a custom option for no crown graphics, minimum go without it on the TP models. Really turning off the purists out there.

Recent golf club pet peeves:
1. Cleveland 'zip grooves' etching running down either side of the grooves on wedge lineups.
2. Every Taylormade metalwood crown graphic.....for that matter any type of writing on crowns of metalwoods.
3. The sudden need to use every color of the rainbow for metalwoods.

K.I.S.S. Anyone?!?!?! Thank you Titleist, Mizuno and a few others for saving my sanity.
[/quote]
Interestingly the two companies that are saving your sanity are not two of the more successful selling metal woods companies. Titleist clearly sells more woods than Mizuno in the US (more equal in the rest of the world), but TM and Callway dwarf them in woods worldwide and Ping is also larger. This year all of the major OEMs are going to make a big play in going all out after metal woods. A lot of money is going to be spent on advertising these this year! While everyone here is commenting on the controversial crown graphics from TM and Adams. There is also concern from within the industry if Titleist was wise using "13" in the name of their new clubs. Interesting to see what happens in the international market, because that has become a huge part for this business.

[reg1900]

[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment. it's like one club for life. i'm interested. i dont think it will be ready for pga merch show, which is a bummer, but rocketbladz tour model will, can't wait.
[/quote]

Wouldn't the COG be drastically different from when its set at 8* and 12*? It's certainly not going to give you as good a result as a non adjustable driver.

The clubs with the hottest faces are the RBZ and Callaway X Hot fairway woods, they aren't adjustable, nuff said

[WVP]

[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1353737119' post='5971809']
[quote name='lukesmurf59' timestamp='1353733164' post='5971675']
I really wish they would just make good looking drivers. I hate these ugly things. The callaways with the different colors on the bottom are plenty. Why can't drivers look good too? I know it makes them money but goodness I would have a little more self respect. These look like all those ridiculous $2k civic hatchbacks that all the "gangstas" "trick out." Whatever happened to something beautiful that also performed? The performance should speak for the driver, not its gaudy looks. I think a little color can be fun but all the Taylormade ones just have a certain look about them that I don't like. They also perform no better than anything else (often worse) so I cannot justify purchasing their clubs. I've bought ugly clubs before but you can only make ugly clubs when the ugliness provides certain, improved performance. I used to play a square driver because I hit it straighter than anything. But paint doesn't change anything. Paint it pretty.
[/quote]
I love it when a "hater" says that the TM drivers don't work as well as everyone else then you look at the drivers in tour players bags that are not TM Staff and yet are playing TM drivers (and RBZ FWs). Then look and see how many Tour players (on all the major tours) use Titleist, Ping, Callaway, Wilson, and some other drivers that are not not those staffs. Almost no one uses these other companies drivers unless they are Staff players of those companies.
Anyone care to guess what that means??
[/quote]

Means they currently make clearly superior drivers and FW's, or they pay the most tee it up money. I'm no insider so I really have no idea which one it is. Maybe a combination of those two.

[youngwaldo]

Love it. TMAG, if you are reading these thread, send me the club to test.

Wk

[Hifade]

Looks like TMaG has gone NASCAR on us

[StarFleetGolfer]

[quote name='wobgon' timestamp='1353739564' post='5971855']
[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1353737119' post='5971809']
[quote name='lukesmurf59' timestamp='1353733164' post='5971675']
I really wish they would just make good looking drivers. I hate these ugly things. The callaways with the different colors on the bottom are plenty. Why can't drivers look good too? I know it makes them money but goodness I would have a little more self respect. These look like all those ridiculous $2k civic hatchbacks that all the "gangstas" "trick out." Whatever happened to something beautiful that also performed? The performance should speak for the driver, not its gaudy looks. I think a little color can be fun but all the Taylormade ones just have a certain look about them that I don't like. They also perform no better than anything else (often worse) so I cannot justify purchasing their clubs. I've bought ugly clubs before but you can only make ugly clubs when the ugliness provides certain, improved performance. I used to play a square driver because I hit it straighter than anything. But paint doesn't change anything. Paint it pretty.
[/quote]
I love it when a "hater" says that the TM drivers don't work as well as everyone else then you look at the drivers in tour players bags that are not TM Staff and yet are playing TM drivers (and RBZ FWs). Then look and see how many Tour players (on all the major tours) use Titleist, Ping, Callaway, Wilson, and some other drivers that are not not those staffs. Almost no one uses these other companies drivers unless they are Staff players of those companies.
Anyone care to guess what that means??
[/quote]
It means another wrx'r childishly called someone a hater for not liking a silly thing like a golf club.
[/quote]

+1. TMAG pays for play. Don't get your feelings hurt if someone doesn't like a club. You must have issues if this keeps you up at night. Also, please stop with the term hater, it's such an old response just because someone's opinion doesn't agree with yours.

[smackygolf]

[quote name='reg1900' timestamp='1353748891' post='5971953']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment. it's like one club for life. i'm interested. i dont think it will be ready for pga merch show, which is a bummer, but rocketbladz tour model will, can't wait.
[/quote]

Wouldn't the COG be drastically different from when its set at 8* and 12*? It's certainly not going to give you as good a result as a non adjustable driver.

The clubs with the hottest faces are the RBZ and Callaway X Hot fairway woods, they aren't adjustable, nuff said
[/quote]

This is the thing not talked about enough. On a loft adjustable driver, only 1 loft will be ideal for CG placement. The 10.5 head IS NOT THE SAME as the 8.5 head on a glued version. This is great for shops and OEM's to handle inventory better, which in turn should lead to prices being more stable, but it is BAD for the consumer.

[Woodridge]

[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1353767311' post='5972367']
[quote name='reg1900' timestamp='1353748891' post='5971953']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment. it's like one club for life. i'm interested. i dont think it will be ready for pga merch show, which is a bummer, but rocketbladz tour model will, can't wait.
[/quote]

Wouldn't the COG be drastically different from when its set at 8* and 12*? It's certainly not going to give you as good a result as a non adjustable driver.

The clubs with the hottest faces are the RBZ and Callaway X Hot fairway woods, they aren't adjustable, nuff said
[/quote]

This is the thing not talked about enough. On a loft adjustable driver, only 1 loft will be ideal for CG placement. The 10.5 head IS NOT THE SAME as the 8.5 head on a glued version. This is great for shops and OEM's to handle inventory better, which in turn should lead to prices being more stable, but it is BAD for the consumer.
[/quote]

This is a solid observation Smacky. That leads me to the question of how many people buying this driver will get it correctly fitted for them by their local shop. My sense is that your average player will simply grab it from the rack and head straight to the check out counter. They will either think they know which settings to use or try to change the settings based on ball flight. Either way, it's a guessing game which will likely leave them hitting it worse. I played with a guy the other day who lowered the loft on his driver to 8.5 degrees because he had skyed a few drives.

[sheppy335]

Might be Staying with my R11s, Paint scheme looks bad. It better perform if they want people to buy it!

[NGstaff]

Ok. Most people bashed the Nike driver due to it's red head and white swoosh. REALLY? If this is the actual club....WTF! I would play the Nike and Cobra drivers all day before these. They are hideous.

[ohcanada17]

Well the R1 color scheme is actually orange not red... So I'm going with not it

[mosesgolf]

Let's all agree to disagree.
These new all in ones regardless of how they look is exactly what I'm looking for. For many, that "all in one" concept will be appealing.

[smackygolf]

I actually don't mind the way it looks. With my True Aim sticker on it, it's REALLY gonna look busy. So, whatever. Once the club starts back I could not care less what it looks like.

[Elpresidente]

The only thing i want to know is how they perform. I'm in for a new 3 and 5 wood so i will look into 913 or RBZ adjustable. For me it is equal if it doesn't fit my eye i paint it flat black like my R11s stealth bomber.

[borgore23]

[quote name='station2station' timestamp='1353724405' post='5971225']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment.
[/quote]

And remind me what the positive is of 4* of adjustability for a consumer that plays 9.5-10* of loft in his/her driver?
[/quote]

We all know you're a titleist fan boy. Clearly the sole plate is designed with 3 degrees of adjustability both opened and closed.

People like you are funny though because I'm sure you opened the link took one look and your decision was made that you didn't like it. I'm sure it was made before you even seen the driver. If the TaylorMade came out with a driver that looked exactly like the titleist 913 but said TaylorMade instead of titleist you would still hate on it. And that goes for all of the TaylorMade "haters".

These drivers will be on tour and they will sell like crazy. It's great how much hype this driver has on this site and all that has been showed are pictures of a driver head. Wait until TaylorMade actually markets the driver.

People will quickly get over the crown paint job just like they got over the white heads. Chalk another up for TaylorMade innovation.

[golfware]

Wow. Just look at all this free buzz. I'd say TMAG had done it again from a marketing standpoint.

[OUZO Power]

[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1353767311' post='5972367']
[quote name='reg1900' timestamp='1353748891' post='5971953']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment. it's like one club for life. i'm interested. i dont think it will be ready for pga merch show, which is a bummer, but rocketbladz tour model will, can't wait.
[/quote]

Wouldn't the COG be drastically different from when its set at 8* and 12*? It's certainly not going to give you as good a result as a non adjustable driver.

The clubs with the hottest faces are the RBZ and Callaway X Hot fairway woods, they aren't adjustable, nuff said
[/quote]

This is the thing not talked about enough. On a loft adjustable driver, only 1 loft will be ideal for CG placement. The 10.5 head IS NOT THE SAME as the 8.5 head on a glued version. This is great for shops and OEM's to handle inventory better, which in turn should lead to prices being more stable, but it is BAD for the consumer.
[/quote]didnt look at it that way. Good observation. But this just a new style of adjustment. Your theory should then apply to the RAZR FIT, 910, 913, R11 etc.

[golfware]

[quote name='Woodridge' timestamp='1353768228' post='5972413']
[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1353767311' post='5972367']
[quote name='reg1900' timestamp='1353748891' post='5971953']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment. it's like one club for life. i'm interested. i dont think it will be ready for pga merch show, which is a bummer, but rocketbladz tour model will, can't wait.
[/quote]

Wouldn't the COG be drastically different from when its set at 8* and 12*? It's certainly not going to give you as good a result as a non adjustable driver.

The clubs with the hottest faces are the RBZ and Callaway X Hot fairway woods, they aren't adjustable, nuff said
[/quote]

This is the thing not talked about enough. On a loft adjustable driver, only 1 loft will be ideal for CG placement. The 10.5 head IS NOT THE SAME as the 8.5 head on a glued version. This is great for shops and OEM's to handle inventory better, which in turn should lead to prices being more stable, but it is BAD for the consumer.
[/quote]

This is a solid observation Smacky. That leads me to the question of how many people buying this driver will get it correctly fitted for them by their local shop. My sense is that your average player will simply grab it from the rack and head straight to the check out counter. They will either think they know which settings to use or try to change the settings based on ball flight. Either way, it's a guessing game which will likely leave them hitting it worse. I played with a guy the other day who lowered the loft on his driver to 8.5 degrees because he had skyed a few drives.
[/quote]

+10!

[OUZO Power]

[quote name='golfware' timestamp='1353776552' post='5972851']
Wow. Just look at all this free buzz. I'd say TMAG had done it again from a marketing standpoint.
[/quote]not really. Same buzz was created for the RAZR FIT Xtreme and the Covert.

[wobgon]

[quote name='fulton' timestamp='1353774885' post='5972771']
[quote name='station2station' timestamp='1353724405' post='5971225']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment.
[/quote]

And remind me what the positive is of 4* of adjustability for a consumer that plays 9.5-10* of loft in his/her driver?
[/quote]

We all know you're a titleist fan boy and a little slower than most people. Clearly the sole plate is designed with 3 degrees of adjustability both opened and closed.

People like you are funny though because I'm sure you opened the link took one look and your decision was made that you didn't like it. I'm sure it was made before you even seen the driver. If the TaylorMade came out with a driver that looked exactly like the titleist 913 but said TaylorMade instead of titleist you would still hate on it. And that goes for all of the TaylorMade "haters".

These drivers will be on tour and they will sell like crazy. It's great how much hype this driver has on this site and all that has been showed are pictures of a driver head. Wait until TaylorMade actually markets the driver.

People will quickly get over the crown paint job just like they got over the white heads. Chalk another up for TaylorMade innovation.
[/quote]
Be careful when you take this driver to bed with you that you don't poke yourself in the eye. Leave the headcover on. We all need to practice safe sex!

[smackygolf]

[quote name='OUZO Power' timestamp='1353776665' post='5972869']
[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1353767311' post='5972367']
[quote name='reg1900' timestamp='1353748891' post='5971953']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment. it's like one club for life. i'm interested. i dont think it will be ready for pga merch show, which is a bummer, but rocketbladz tour model will, can't wait.
[/quote]

Wouldn't the COG be drastically different from when its set at 8* and 12*? It's certainly not going to give you as good a result as a non adjustable driver.

The clubs with the hottest faces are the RBZ and Callaway X Hot fairway woods, they aren't adjustable, nuff said
[/quote]

This is the thing not talked about enough. On a loft adjustable driver, only 1 loft will be ideal for CG placement. The 10.5 head IS NOT THE SAME as the 8.5 head on a glued version. This is great for shops and OEM's to handle inventory better, which in turn should lead to prices being more stable, but it is BAD for the consumer.
[/quote]didnt look at it that way. Good observation. But this just a new style of adjustment. Your theory should then apply to the RAZR FIT, 910, 913, R11 etc.
[/quote]

Especially the Nike and Cobra. An 8.5* head is mechanically different than a 10.5* head. Period. If it's just changing face angle to effectively change the loft (and not ACTUALLY changing the loft) it's not as big of a deal. But any of the R&D guys at any of the OEM's will tell you the same thing. They HATE the idea of one loft that can adjusted 4*. Once again, what the consumer wants doesn't automatically help the consumer.

[mickeytbones]

To me, the one loft driver is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

[MtlJeff]

[quote name='golfware' timestamp='1353776552' post='5972851']
Wow. Just look at all this free buzz. I'd say TMAG had done it again from a marketing standpoint.
[/quote]

People would talk about the latest TM offering regardless of what it was. They are the top selling driver on the market so any release, good or bad, is going to generate discussion. The crown could have had a nude picture of Judi Dench on it and this thread would probably have twice as many pages by now, doesn't mean it's a great idea. I've heard the expression "no publicity is bad publicity" but people take it to extremes.

I don't think Exxon Mobil in 1989 was saying "well, we caused a ton of devastation, but hey people are talking about us right? I mean that's great news if you think about it!"

All that said, i still think this will be the top selling driver of 2013. If the crown [i]does [/i]look like that it's unfortunate. But i don't think it's enough to dissuade buyers. That doesn't mean 90% of people saying it's ugly is good for the company. If you read the early R11 threads the feedback was generally a lot more positive

[golfware]

[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1353779099' post='5973019']
[quote name='golfware' timestamp='1353776552' post='5972851']
Wow. Just look at all this free buzz. I'd say TMAG had done it again from a marketing standpoint.
[/quote]

People would talk about the latest TM offering regardless of what it was. They are the top selling driver on the market so any release, good or bad, is going to generate discussion. The crown could have had a nude picture of Judi Dench on it and this thread would probably have twice as many pages by now, doesn't mean it's a great idea. I've heard the expression "no publicity is bad publicity" but people take it to extremes.

I don't think Exxon Mobil in 1989 was saying "well, we caused a ton of devastation, but hey people are talking about us right? I mean that's great news if you think about it!"

All that said, i still think this will be the top selling driver of 2013. If the crown [i]does [/i]look like that it's unfortunate. But i don't think it's enough to dissuade buyers. That doesn't mean 90% of people saying it's ugly is good for the company. If you read the early R11 threads the feedback was generally a lot more positive
[/quote]

Oh I hear ya. But it's got everyone here talking. And that's pretty much the intent right... Positive or negative. I'm just waiting for the guy that says he was 19 yards longer than his properly fit R11S to jump on board, which was a good 7 yards longer than the fitted R11 he had before. Now THAT is coming. LOL

[novakjrp1]

[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1353778687' post='5972993']
[quote name='OUZO Power' timestamp='1353776665' post='5972869']
[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1353767311' post='5972367']
[quote name='reg1900' timestamp='1353748891' post='5971953']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment. it's like one club for life. i'm interested. i dont think it will be ready for pga merch show, which is a bummer, but rocketbladz tour model will, can't wait.
[/quote]

Wouldn't the COG be drastically different from when its set at 8* and 12*? It's certainly not going to give you as good a result as a non adjustable driver.

The clubs with the hottest faces are the RBZ and Callaway X Hot fairway woods, they aren't adjustable, nuff said
[/quote]

This is the thing not talked about enough. On a loft adjustable driver, only 1 loft will be ideal for CG placement. The 10.5 head IS NOT THE SAME as the 8.5 head on a glued version. This is great for shops and OEM's to handle inventory better, which in turn should lead to prices being more stable, but it is BAD for the consumer.
[/quote]didnt look at it that way. Good observation. But this just a new style of adjustment. Your theory should then apply to the RAZR FIT, 910, 913, R11 etc.
[/quote]

Especially the Nike and Cobra. An 8.5* head is mechanically different than a 10.5* head. Period. If it's just changing face angle to effectively change the loft (and not ACTUALLY changing the loft) it's not as big of a deal. But any of the R&D guys at any of the OEM's will tell you the same thing. They HATE the idea of one loft that can adjusted 4*. Once again, what the consumer wants doesn't automatically help the consumer.
[/quote]

That's definitely interesting. And what you are saying seems to make logical sense. It would definitely be interesting to know exactly how the CG changes as both loft and face angle change (for all adjustable clubs). I ask this mainly because different types of players require different CG placement in clubs, do they not? Wouldn't a high swing speed, high launch, high spin player prefer higher CG placement in a club? Whereas a low swing speed, low launch, low spin player prefer lower CG placement? It seems to me that optimal CG placement depends on the user, no?

[bph7]

For those of you who keep comparing this to the R11 when it was first released and how later on it sold so well and everything, remember, that is true, but as a driver, the R11 received mixed reviews on here at best. The R11s was much better, but most people here still don't bag it. So for those of you who say it will still sell great, you are right, but don't just assume that TMAG has nailed the performance because they've shown us recently that they are definitely beatable when it comes to driver technology. That's what I think people on here care more about anyway, right? The performance? And when you combine TMAG's recent driver performance track record (good, not great) with the color scheme, I think its pretty obvious why people on here are skeptical.

[OUZO Power]

[quote name='novakjrp1' timestamp='1353780175' post='5973069']
[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1353778687' post='5972993']
[quote name='OUZO Power' timestamp='1353776665' post='5972869']
[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1353767311' post='5972367']
[quote name='reg1900' timestamp='1353748891' post='5971953']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment. it's like one club for life. i'm interested. i dont think it will be ready for pga merch show, which is a bummer, but rocketbladz tour model will, can't wait.
[/quote]

Wouldn't the COG be drastically different from when its set at 8* and 12*? It's certainly not going to give you as good a result as a non adjustable driver.

The clubs with the hottest faces are the RBZ and Callaway X Hot fairway woods, they aren't adjustable, nuff said
[/quote]

This is the thing not talked about enough. On a loft adjustable driver, only 1 loft will be ideal for CG placement. The 10.5 head IS NOT THE SAME as the 8.5 head on a glued version. This is great for shops and OEM's to handle inventory better, which in turn should lead to prices being more stable, but it is BAD for the consumer.
[/quote]didnt look at it that way. Good observation. But this just a new style of adjustment. Your theory should then apply to the RAZR FIT, 910, 913, R11 etc.
[/quote]

Especially the Nike and Cobra. An 8.5* head is mechanically different than a 10.5* head. Period. If it's just changing face angle to effectively change the loft (and not ACTUALLY changing the loft) it's not as big of a deal. But any of the R&D guys at any of the OEM's will tell you the same thing. They HATE the idea of one loft that can adjusted 4*. Once again, what the consumer wants doesn't automatically help the consumer.
[/quote]

That's definitely interesting. And what you are saying seems to make logical sense. It would definitely be interesting to know exactly how the CG changes as both loft and face angle change (for all adjustable clubs). I ask this mainly because different types of players require different CG placement in clubs, do they not? Wouldn't a high swing speed, high launch, high spin player prefer higher CG placement in a club? Whereas a low swing speed, low launch, low spin player prefer lower CG placement? It seems to me that optimal CG placement depends on the user, no?
[/quote]i think we neglected to mention that all these clubs have weights which can accommodate the changes in CG with loft change.

[StarFleetGolfer]

[quote name='fulton' timestamp='1353774885' post='5972771']
[quote name='station2station' timestamp='1353724405' post='5971225']
[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1353717263' post='5970695']
8 to 12 degrees... nough said. they could hand draw a smiley face on the crown and people would line up for that kind of adjustment.
[/quote]

And remind me what the positive is of 4* of adjustability for a consumer that plays 9.5-10* of loft in his/her driver?
[/quote]

We all know you're a titleist fan boy and a little slower than most people. Clearly the sole plate is designed with 3 degrees of adjustability both opened and closed.

People like you are funny though because I'm sure you opened the link took one look and your decision was made that you didn't like it. I'm sure it was made before you even seen the driver. If the TaylorMade came out with a driver that looked exactly like the titleist 913 but said TaylorMade instead of titleist you would still hate on it. And that goes for all of the TaylorMade "haters".

These drivers will be on tour and they will sell like crazy. It's great how much hype this driver has on this site and all that has been showed are pictures of a driver head. Wait until TaylorMade actually markets the driver.

People will quickly get over the crown paint job just like they got over the white heads. Chalk another up for TaylorMade innovation.
[/quote]


White paint is innovation? Station has played TMAG do he's not a Titleist fanboy, just being honest. Also, please stop the term hater, it most likely originated in the hood by people who couldn't put a logical argument together. I would play this club if it was straighter and longer than my current club, but I would still call it ugly.