PXG Golf Ball?

[SwingMan]

Parsons spent $250k per year on clubs ... while the clubs are unique in look and expand on traditional methods of moving weight around the perimeter ... $250k?

This man can afford his own Trackman and the best instructors in the world. If he can't figure out that the magic comes with hard work and not $250k in equipment...

Ball?

Why not? This is a guy who doesn't mind throwing $250k down the drain each year ... why not throw away millions in ball tech and losing his a$$ along the way.

[Benco]

It doesn't cost millions to manufacture a golf ball in 2015 when you are not producing them yourself

[SwingMan]

[quote name='Benco' timestamp='1450524897' post='12738764']
It doesn't cost millions to manufacture a golf ball in 2015 when you are not producing them yourself
[/quote]

True, but this is Parsons. You'd think he'd spend $1m in R&D at the drop of a hat.

[Bob57]

Look out Titleist there goes .0008% of your market share..

[GeorgeHWB]

Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

I don't think PXG is targeting consumers like you:)

[ctfuzz21]

I'm not sure I understand why we wouldn't want somebody in the marketplace willing to spend whatever it takes on R&D to drive production of a unique and better product?

And if Parsons and PXG doesn't deliver, then what harm comes from it? I have to believe that more competition in the marketplace will Breed further innovation and development in a way that could help my game.

[herbygolf21]

[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

Why is everyone so close minded about this company? They have 2 of the best engineers in golf, deep pockets, a CEO passionate about golf, and the only limitations set forth are those from the USGA. I think it's a great company with potential to break through new barriors. For equipment junkies I would think this would be heaven, but I guess most guys just want us to get off their lawn and stick with the standard oem offerings. I for one would love to try the equipment.

[GeorgeHWB]

[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450588396' post='12742332']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

Why is everyone so close minded about this company? They have 2 of the best engineers in golf, deep pockets, a CEO passionate about golf, and the only limitations set forth are those from the USGA. I think it's a great company with potential to break through new barriors. For equipment junkies I would think this would be heaven, but I guess most guys just want us to get off their lawn and stick with the standard oem offerings. I for one would love to try the equipment.
[/quote]

Because it's a bunch of bullsheeit. Blade irons with bolts. Wow so innovative. If you want to be impressed go ahead. But I see infomercial garbage coming out of this company.

[playa]

[quote name='rymail00' timestamp='1450324494' post='12730086']
[quote name='TheChad003' timestamp='1450317390' post='12729608']
This showed up at the golf course I used to work at, anyone heard of anything?
[/quote]


Is it me or does it seem to have huge dimples? Not saying it's good or bad, just an observation.

Definitely interested to hear more about them though. Seeing how Parsons spares no expense on his clubs I wonder if the ball/s they end up producing something that can compete with Pro V1, Pro V1X or surpass them? But seeing the prices of the clubs I guess I wouldn't be surprised if they almost reach $60 a dozen. But just speculating though.
[/quote]
I've always been a fan of big dimples. For some reason lots of tiny dimples just says hack ball to me. Can't explain why I feel that way, just the way it fits my eye.

[rgk5]

[quote name='Benco' timestamp='1450524897' post='12738764']
It doesn't cost millions to manufacture a golf ball in 2015 when you are not producing them yourself
[/quote]

Correct. there are plenty of companies in Taiwan and China who can manufacture balls to his specs. A ball can be designed and delivered in prototype form in less than two weeks. Ask Ishi at Nike.

[herbygolf21]

[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450592058' post='12742522']
[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450588396' post='12742332']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

Why is everyone so close minded about this company? They have 2 of the best engineers in golf, deep pockets, a CEO passionate about golf, and the only limitations set forth are those from the USGA. I think it's a great company with potential to break through new barriors. For equipment junkies I would think this would be heaven, but I guess most guys just want us to get off their lawn and stick with the standard oem offerings. I for one would love to try the equipment.
[/quote]

Because it's a bunch of bullsheeit. Blade irons with bolts. Wow so innovative. If you want to be impressed go ahead. But I see infomercial garbage coming out of this company.
[/quote]

Then you simply are not seeing the technology in these irons.

[Illest]

[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450588396' post='12742332']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

Why is everyone so close minded about this company? They have 2 of the best engineers in golf, deep pockets, a CEO passionate about golf, and the only limitations set forth are those from the USGA. I think it's a great company with potential to break through new barriors. For equipment junkies I would think this would be heaven, but I guess most guys just want us to get off their lawn and stick with the standard oem offerings. I for one would love to try the equipment.
[/quote]

Too ugly

[starsail85]

[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450624122' post='12743210']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450592058' post='12742522']
[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450588396' post='12742332']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

Why is everyone so close minded about this company? They have 2 of the best engineers in golf, deep pockets, a CEO passionate about golf, and the only limitations set forth are those from the USGA. I think it's a great company with potential to break through new barriors. For equipment junkies I would think this would be heaven, but I guess most guys just want us to get off their lawn and stick with the standard oem offerings. I for one would love to try the equipment.
[/quote]

Because it's a bunch of bullsheeit. Blade irons with bolts. Wow so innovative. If you want to be impressed go ahead. But I see infomercial garbage coming out of this company.
[/quote]

Then you simply are not seeing the technology in these irons.
[/quote]

What technology?

If it was for weighting then more could be achieved with a tungsten strip rather than dozens of bolts

None of the product seems legit to me I'm
Amazed people dig them

[SwingMan]

As long as they can keep losses to $250k per year, Parsons may not mind. It's what he was spending on clubs anyway... (said jokingly)

[TheMoneyShot]

The troll posts are hilarious in this thread... You would have thought it was a TM thread.

[hef63303]

I think having PXG in the business is great. The guy has plenty of money to spend. Let him spend it any way he wants. They may come up with the next big breakthrough or they may never be more than a niche. But at least someone is spending money and brain power in the golf industry.

[hef63303]

[quote name='elwhippy' timestamp='1450498755' post='12738302']
Seeing as Bridgestone is quitting the UK market with a very good line of balls and the backing of a massive parent company I am baffled as to why Parsons would risk a ball before its clubs become established. To this day I doubt either Callaway or Nike have ever broke even on balls....as for pricing there is no market above the V1, Z-star and Tour Preferred. Any attempt to sell above that would be suicidal.
[/quote]Don't tell Srixon that. They sell lots of balls in the Japanese market at prices far higher than the three balls you mention.

[JMO TO]

[quote name='hef63303' timestamp='1450648467' post='12744444']
[quote name='elwhippy' timestamp='1450498755' post='12738302']
Seeing as Bridgestone is quitting the UK market with a very good line of balls and the backing of a massive parent company I am baffled as to why Parsons would risk a ball before its clubs become established. To this day I doubt either Callaway or Nike have ever broke even on balls....as for pricing there is no market above the V1, Z-star and Tour Preferred. Any attempt to sell above that would be suicidal.
[/quote]Don't tell Srixon that. They sell lots of balls in the Japanese market at prices far higher than the three balls you mention.
[/quote]Z-Star is Srixon's tour level ball.....

[JMO TO]

[quote name='starsail85' timestamp='1450630615' post='12743560']
[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450624122' post='12743210']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450592058' post='12742522']
[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450588396' post='12742332']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

Why is everyone so close minded about this company? They have 2 of the best engineers in golf, deep pockets, a CEO passionate about golf, and the only limitations set forth are those from the USGA. I think it's a great company with potential to break through new barriors. For equipment junkies I would think this would be heaven, but I guess most guys just want us to get off their lawn and stick with the standard oem offerings. I for one would love to try the equipment.
[/quote]

Because it's a bunch of bullsheeit. Blade irons with bolts. Wow so innovative. If you want to be impressed go ahead. But I see infomercial garbage coming out of this company.
[/quote]

Then you simply are not seeing the technology in these irons.
[/quote]

What technology?

If it was for weighting then more could be achieved with a tungsten strip rather than dozens of bolts

None of the product seems legit to me I'm
Amazed people dig them
[/quote]The screws are not the main technology. They have the thinnest faces on the market, which they accomplish by filling the hollow heads with elastomer. Not just blades with screws. From what I've heard, these are flying out the door at the high end fitters (only place they are available presently, other than direct from PXG). The product doesn't seem legit to you because you don't know anything about it. Most of the OEM's are using perimeter weighting, and PXG is just going about it differently with the screws. I'm behind anything that fuels innovation.

[displayname]

I have to agree that the approach of innovation first is interesting in the current golf market. Honestly, the company might not even need major sales to succeed. If they come up with even one major innovation, backed with one robust patent, they won't need to sell a ton of clubs. They can just sell use of their tech to every other OEM, and those guys can bring it to the masses at a more familiar price point. And mixing the strategy of deep pockets, and zero manufacturing or sales cycle limitations, they could probably snag some other significant design and R&D talent from some of the big boys.

At first I also thought it was clubs with screws, which was interesting already to me. But watching their moves in scooping up proven industry engineers, and now building out a significant tour staff, I think they are turning heads. We'll see how it all plays out, but from clubs to business tactics, they have my attention. If I had the cash flow, they'd probably have my wallet too. Based on what we've seen so far, I'm curious to see what their story is with the ball once it is released.

[canonlbp430]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1450639267' post='12743998']
The troll posts are hilarious in this thread... You would have thought it was a TM thread.
[/quote]

The PGX hate may give TM hate a run for its money in 2016. Pretty amazing especially when you realize that 95% of people spewing the hate have never hit the clubs before.

[BackwardsGolfer]

[quote name='displayname' timestamp='1450726273' post='12748058']
I have to agree that the approach of innovation first is interesting in the current golf market. Honestly, the company might not even need major sales to succeed. If they come up with even one major innovation, backed with one robust patent, they won't need to sell a ton of clubs. They can just sell use of their tech to every other OEM, and those guys can bring it to the masses at a more familiar price point. And mixing the strategy of deep pockets, and zero manufacturing or sales cycle limitations, they could probably snag some other significant design and R&D talent from some of the big boys.

At first I also thought it was clubs with screws, which was interesting already to me. But watching their moves in scooping up proven industry engineers, and now building out a significant tour staff, I think they are turning heads. We'll see how it all plays out, but from clubs to business tactics, they have my attention. If I had the cash flow, they'd probably have my wallet too. Based on what we've seen so far, I'm curious to see what their story is with the ball once it is released.
[/quote]

This....Gentlemen. This.

[Chilidog]

[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1450330281' post='12730388']
Where are the screws?
[/quote]

Oh I'm sure you will be getting screwed every time you dump one of these in the water or woods.

[LaggingBehind]

[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1450330281' post='12730388']
Where are the screws?
[/quote]
In the mantle

[NoCalHack]

Wow. Respect to psg to be trying this. If it were easy to sell $3 balls that golfers hit into the woods every couple holes then everyone would be doing it. Makes you wonder if they have something up their sleeve or if they are making a very bad business decision.

[joneser]

This site really is becoming a negative place to be. Everyone is more than welcome to their opinion but some of the comments shared here are simply hate being spewed by close minded, uninformed people. You can hate the owner of the company for whatever it is people seem to hate him for and you certainly can decide for yourself that you don't like the looks of these clubs (I happen to think they look pretty good). Whats amazing is the number of people that are writing them off or calling them junk without ever hitting them or even seeing them in person. I have not heard or read about too many people that have hit them and not have positive things to say about them. Calling their equipment something from an infomercial is pretty short sited. If anyone thinks that you are going to hire the respected people they have hired and produce junk your simply delusional. They are already getting way too much attention on tour for them to be called garbage.

Just to reiterate, calling them ugly or not liking the owner is an opinion, not seeing them for what they really are is being close minded and uninformed. This sounds a lot like the G30 comments after news and then photos came out about the design of the G30. Flop, Garbage, Sam's club equipment, etc. All of the geniuses spewing about how they would never be caught dead with the club because of the turbulators. Funny how that went out the window when the club was great. The G30 was arguably the best driver that year. The big difference with the PXG stuff is that it may be great but it also may be out of the equation because of price. I am getting a chance to test a fitting iron on the course this weekend (hopefully) and I will wait until after I hit it to formulate an opinion. If the club isn't great for me, it wont be because the club is junk or because I am jealous of the owner, it will be because the club was not for me. I am sure I will get some angry a** feedback for this but oh well.

[buckeyefl]

[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450624122' post='12743210']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450592058' post='12742522']
[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450588396' post='12742332']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

Why is everyone so close minded about this company? They have 2 of the best engineers in golf, deep pockets, a CEO passionate about golf, and the only limitations set forth are those from the USGA. I think it's a great company with potential to break through new barriors. For equipment junkies I would think this would be heaven, but I guess most guys just want us to get off their lawn and stick with the standard oem offerings. I for one would love to try the equipment.
[/quote]

Because it's a bunch of bullsheeit. Blade irons with bolts. Wow so innovative. If you want to be impressed go ahead. But I see infomercial garbage coming out of this company.
[/quote]

Then you simply are not seeing the technology in these irons.
[/quote]

There is nothing in them that hasn't been tried, isn't out there or improves performance over other products from the padt orcurrently on the market.

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='joneser' timestamp='1450807010' post='12752120']
This site really is becoming a negative place to be. Everyone is more than welcome to their opinion but some of the comments shared here are simply hate being spewed by close minded, uninformed people. You can hate the owner of the company for whatever it is people seem to hate him for and you certainly can decide for yourself that you don't like the looks of these clubs (I happen to think they look pretty good). Whats amazing is the number of people that are writing them off or calling them junk without ever hitting them or even seeing them in person. I have not heard or read about too many people that have hit them and not have positive things to say about them. Calling their equipment something from an infomercial is pretty short sited. If anyone thinks that you are going to hire the respected people they have hired and produce junk your simply delusional. They are already getting way too much attention on tour for them to be called garbage.

Just to reiterate, calling them ugly or not liking the owner is an opinion, not seeing them for what they really are is being close minded and uninformed. This sounds a lot like the G30 comments after news and then photos came out about the design of the G30. Flop, Garbage, Sam's club equipment, etc. All of the geniuses spewing about how they would never be caught dead with the club because of the turbulators. Funny how that went out the window when the club was great. The G30 was arguably the best driver that year. The big difference with the PXG stuff is that it may be great but it also may be out of the equation because of price. I am getting a chance to test a fitting iron on the course this weekend (hopefully) and I will wait until after I hit it to formulate an opinion. If the club isn't great for me, it wont be because the club is junk or because I am jealous of the owner, it will be because the club was not for me. I am sure I will get some angry a** feedback for this but oh well.
[/quote]

Great post!

[herbygolf21]

[quote name='buckeyefl' timestamp='1450809858' post='12752316']
[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450624122' post='12743210']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450592058' post='12742522']
[quote name='herbygolf21' timestamp='1450588396' post='12742332']
[quote name='William Coolidge' timestamp='1450585730' post='12742188']
Hey, there's more PXG equipment I won't be buying.

PXG can be the new Coates golf. Two companies headed by rich guys with more money than good sense.
[/quote]

Why is everyone so close minded about this company? They have 2 of the best engineers in golf, deep pockets, a CEO passionate about golf, and the only limitations set forth are those from the USGA. I think it's a great company with potential to break through new barriors. For equipment junkies I would think this would be heaven, but I guess most guys just want us to get off their lawn and stick with the standard oem offerings. I for one would love to try the equipment.
[/quote]

Because it's a bunch of bullsheeit. Blade irons with bolts. Wow so innovative. If you want to be impressed go ahead. But I see infomercial garbage coming out of this company.
[/quote]

Then you simply are not seeing the technology in these irons.
[/quote]

There is nothing in them that hasn't been tried, isn't out there or improves performance over other products from the padt orcurrently on the market.
[/quote]

I will have to disagree with you on that. The face for one is half as thin as the nearest competitor on the market. True, there are other irons that can be made hollow (TMB), but because of the patents on the PXG gear, you will not be able to fill the heads with the thermoplastic. This has a dramatic effect on feel and stability of the face. Without the thermoplastic injection a face can not be made this thin. Thinner face saves a lot of weight that can be applied to the perimeter, which of course makes a more forgiving golf club. The thinner face can increase ball speed, therefore making the irons longer. The thermoplastic injection makes the irons feel better.

So basically, this company has produced an iron that golfers have been begging for for years, a blade (type) iron that is made with forged products that happens to be more forgiving than most cavity backs and longer than most game improvement clubs. The club is finally here, and most people bash it because they don't like the owner, or don't like the fact that the engineers left another company for a better opportunity, or don't like the name, or hate the price, etc... you see where I am going here. I for one am a golf gear junkie and LOVE to see new ideas and manufacturing processes come to the market. By the way, this is new, it has not been done before. PXG has patented the manufacturing process, so nobody else will do it until that expires.

I would think this community would be the most excited community out there over these products. Maybe that was the old group of WRX members I am thinking of. Either way, play what you want to play. I for one am going to at least hit these before I give judgement. I am keeping an open mind.