What's with the PXG craze?

[tdelam]

Anyone remember these? This PXG craze will become the same thing and we'll all be laughing about it in a few years... :)

 

 

 

I wanted some of those ugly f*ck3rs so bad back in 1993! Even the purple badge was sublime. Plus Corey Pavin owned.

 

That being said, the PXG irons are begrudgingly starting to grow on me, they are completely Mad Max Fury Road death metal in your face but apparently the technology actually works (in it's own different way.) As we all know it is the Go-Daddy guy funding PXG so for sure gonna be "out there" man

 

Yep. For sure. If they changed my game I wouldn't give a damn how they looked either! I remember those Cleveland VAS irons were the craze, Ping Eye 2's too, ugly as hell but they worked really well.

[swizbeatz]

Once PXG brings that new 0811X Driver to the market that James Hahn used, they will see sales soar!

 

I'd be a little surprised, driver cor is maxed out and there are so many good options at a lower price point. It does seem like the irons are working better than anything else for some people, I could see a set in my bag at some point, but I'm probably good on the driver.

 

Side note, we've all seen your new set many times, no need to post the same pic multiple times a page.

[tsecor]

ATTENTION....NEWS BREAKER!!!

 

The new PXG driver cost $4000 and will revolutionize the market with Vibranium

 

Vibranium is a fictional metal used to construct Captain America's shield, but it is also noted for its connection to the Black Panther and his native homeland of Wakanda

 

You can hit the ball 500 yards and defeat evil all in one swing

 

- Bob Parsons

[Thug Hunter]

A couple people in this thread need this form. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/16/d2/29/16d229e3e38ff1a637126fdbeb4c72bd.jpg

[tsecor]

a couple people need allah as well

[llewol007]

At the end of the day, each club maker has a gimmick or else you would not draw any attention to their product. Clubs get you from point A to point B so unless you have Iron Byron swinging for you, it all falls on personal feel as well as looks a price. Just like the 5 C's when it comes to Diamonds, That could be said for golf clubs as well. Feel, Look, results and cost. Pxg is like a McLaren with all the bells and whistles. Gets you from point A to point B but why not drive the McLaren over say a Ford Pinto. Less Gimmicks but does the job. That's how I approach it. I drive the Toyota Camry. Nice , reliable, reasonably priced. Do I wish I had the McLaren with all the bells and whistles. Sure I would. Many standard things in golf club today's design which probably started out as gimmicks.

[stage1350]

Oh God! Here we go with the MacLaren v. Pinto references. Is that you, Todd? Still wearing that John Hardy thumbring?

 

BSG all over again...

[TinkerGolfMan]

I've yet to hit these clubs, but yeah I'm seeing the marketing campaigns everywhere on social media! Even more now that James Hahn won them!

[Thug Hunter]

a couple people need allah as well

 

Don't you have some more chemtrails to worry about?

[dmac4g]

Oh God! Here we go with the MacLaren v. Pinto references. Is that you, Todd? Still wearing that John Hardy thumbring?

 

BSG all over again...

 

You can almost smell the Arby's sauce!

[stage1350]

Oh God! Here we go with the MacLaren v. Pinto references. Is that you, Todd? Still wearing that John Hardy thumbring?

 

BSG all over again...

 

You can almost smell the Arby's sauce!

 

Time to break out the track suit and mandals.

 

I'm sure these irons produce high, flat bombs that hit the ground running. In you don't get the Xtreme dark, you're leaving yards on the table. :rolleyes:

[bk12]

Oh God! Here we go with the MacLaren v. Pinto references. Is that you, Todd? Still wearing that John Hardy thumbring?

 

BSG all over again...

 

You can almost smell the Arby's sauce!

 

Time to break out the track suit and mandals.

 

I'm sure these irons produce high, flat bombs that hit the ground running. In you don't get the Xtreme dark, you're leaving yards on the table. :rolleyes:

 

Stage...as always, you are nailing it.

[jmvargas]

it's a PRODUCT with a specific target market...

 

the fact that you can't appreciate it just proves that you are NOT part of their target market..

 

nothing wrong with that.....

 

you belong more to the market of the general golf OEMs whose products are geared towards a more general and hence bigger market...

 

a mall customer rather than Rodeo Drive or Fifth Avenue.....

 

I see your subtleness regarding target market, I can assure you money is not an issue here, my bank account is fine :) That is not the point.

 

I never had an issue with the money, I have an issue with the looks (my opinion). If they work better for someone then that's awesome but to say they're better than XYZ is simply not true and this whole target audience thing is nonsense too, if you play golf then these irons are targeted at you.

 

Side note, I don't know why you think you're so well off with this "Fifth Avenue" and "target audience" nonsense. You're a General Manager at a Hotel/Yacht Club, I am glad you have a mediocre job, we all are but get off your high horse, you're not rich. I'll keep the club where you work at in mind next time I am in the area. Perhaps you fill me up with fuel...

 

 

i WAS the GM of one of the finest yacht club in my country but have since retired and now concentrate on my family's sugar plantation in the south and still have several marketing and management consultancies...

 

and money was never the point...it was more about taste and appreciating the finer things in life..

 

and i would be glad to have my former staff assist you with your fueling requirements if ever you're in my area...what kind of yacht do you have?

 

mine is a 48ft SeaRay with 3 cabins(which i recently inherited) and is on lease when i'm not using it..

 

and yes...i'm not rich...and not poor either..

[llewol007]

Oh God! Here we go with the MacLaren v. Pinto references. Is that you, Todd? Still wearing that John Hardy thumbring?

 

BSG all over again...

You are missing the point. What I am saying is to maybe make it more acceptable is like buying a MacLaren Le versus a Maclaren XLE

One might have spit out gold flakes who cares. They do the same thing. Like anything in life if you want it then you buy it. PXG is not about having enough money to buy it. Some make it sound like they are selling gold bars. Thought I can putt the same with a 15 dollar putter from sport authority when spending $300 hundred on one just made my putts feel that much better.

[Barfolomew]

Everyone sucks at golf and they ain't getting any better and it can't be them ........so in comes these heaven sent fancy clubs that are different from anything out there and will def knock 10 strokes off their game.

[buckeyefl]

PXG 0311 irons are the world’s sexiest, most forgiving golf clubs that launch higher, go farther, feel softer and have a sweet spot the size of Texas. The irons are made with the finest alloys and are manufactured using a costly, sophisticated process that only we would use

 

that is the marketing of Parsons...nothing proven, just words

 

 

hey!...that's pretty good and may lead many to be curious and give them a try..

 

and as a marketing person i know that marketing is also about creating a want for something you don't really need....

 

That's why its baseless......selling 3 sets a month at each fitter isnt good...seems the marketing isn't really working

 

 

....it's callled "niche" marketing....

 

targets a special group of folks of a specific--and higher--income group and taste..

 

i guess you're not their target..

 

You mean a specific group who buy based on name and image along with a specific group who constantly drinks the marketing koolaid. Really there is nothing else new on the table here.

[buckeyefl]

Just like everything else in golf, if the shoe fits wear it. It might not be your cup of tea and to most due to the price point the benefits dont out weigh the cost. Hopefully I will get a chance to try them out both in a simulator and on the course. Luckily I can use my addiction or dedication to Taylormade clubs as my excuse for holding off. I think I would game them based on looks alone. Pxg is a new company and like most new companies, the marketing is over abundant but not ridiculous in my view. Luckily James Hahn won this past week which was their first Pga Tour victory. Nice looking club but as most clubs, it gets you from Point A to point B.

 

No disrespect but you honestly think their marketing isn't ridiculous? First of all that would probably be a first for almost any club company and second I can only guess you haven't really looked at some of their completely baseless over the top marketing. Some has been directly paid for and some has been from people getting perks but it most certainly has been OTT and without any validation.

[buckeyefl]

I guess you can replace mediocre job with a successful family who passed everything his way. I wonder if he managed the same club his parents belong to. It would surely explain the condescending attitude.

[SwingMan]

I don't understand the ruckus ... it's just a golf club company selling golf clubs.

 

I think the putters with the screws everywhere are too busy -- not my look -- there are better ways to hide adjustable weighting in a putter (I think).

 

So the irons are a little avant garde -- I mean you can't be ordinary in this business -- you've got to be out of the box to attract attention and customers.

 

It's in a class of distance irons - CF16, Srixon 745/945, TM M2, Epon, etc. - some new tech, some updated tech and it's all great for golfers, and now a new guy on the block, Parsons, is challenging other OEMs to do more -- it will benefit all of us in the long run.

 

Don't harrass, but celebrate. We will benefit eventually.

 

 

(So you don't like Parsons? Who cares? I've worked with clients who are like him. No, I don't socialize with most of them, don't like many of their characteristics, but they are driven individuals who will push, push, push their people beyond their capabilties - some of the results are great, some are over the top, and some employees are pounded into the dirt ... welcome to the circus)

[stage1350]

Oh God! Here we go with the MacLaren v. Pinto references. Is that you, Todd? Still wearing that John Hardy thumbring?

 

BSG all over again...

You are missing the point. What I am saying is to maybe make it more acceptable is like buying a MacLaren Le versus a Maclaren XLE

One might have spit out gold flakes who cares. They do the same thing. Like anything in life if you want it then you buy it. PXG is not about having enough money to buy it. Some make it sound like they are selling gold bars. Thought I can putt the same with a 15 dollar putter from sport authority when spending $300 hundred on one just made my putts feel that much better.

 

I would argue that it is you and all the veblan good douchebags in this thread that are missing the point. Part of why people are willing to spend on Miura, Vega, or any exotic forging company that you wish to enter is not simply based on cost. The performance has to be there or the buttery soft feel when you pure one. These use an elastomer damper that is going to kill that feel. For some people, that feel is important.

 

Perhaps you remember the Callaway Hawkeye Tungsten-Titanium irons? Not a big hit on sites like this. They were engineered for forgiveness (I'm sure at least the size of Texas) and were generally looked upon as clubs for rich Japanese men that didn't know better, and hacks. Yet this club comes along with the same premise and is the greatest thing since sliced bread? Why? Because they PAID enough to get them on Tour?

 

I suggest for all the PXG strokefest guys that you go and read Tai's review and his comments on the irons. It speaks that he likes the forgiveness on his less than perfectly executed shots. That is a good thing for his scores. But he also notes that shots that he knows he buttered were not necessarily doing what he wanted as accurately as his forged blades. There is a cost to deviating from a pure forging. But he has also stated that feel is less important to him. So it's a worthy tradeoff for him.

 

There is a compromise in every set of irons made. Yet you act like these are the ultimate. You have either never pured a forged blade in your life, or you don't understand the feeling of nothing. That little feedback that you get when you mishit your irons is why people say blades are the ultimate game improvement irons. You will either learn to hit them, or they will reach out and sting you.

 

But to sit here and act like this is a lifestyle choice and that people aren't buying simply because they can't afford it is laughable. People aren't buying the bullsh!t any more than they bought lime green to ensure they weren't leaving yards on the table. If you want to buy these and they will make you happy, good for you. (Seriously, GFY. Good...For...You.) But understand that there is legitimate criticism to these irons, not the least of which is the offset and the lofts. If you want to discard all criticism and simply label people as jealous haters, you are just being a douchebag fanboy.

[mudmarlin]

I've read too many times that anyone who doesn't consider pxg, clearly can't afford them. My response to that yes, clearly anyone who doesn't want to pay 3x times as much for golf clubs that do nothing more than the rest of the peasant models out there, must be poor low class... Or doesn't like voluntarily being ripped off. Just my opinion.

[buckeyefl]

I don't understand the ruckus ... it's just a golf club company selling golf clubs.

 

I think the putters with the screws everywhere are too busy -- not my look -- there are better ways to hide adjustable weighting in a putter (I think).

 

So the irons are a little avant garde -- I mean you can't be ordinary in this business -- you've got to be out of the box to attract attention and customers.

 

It's in a class of distance irons - CF16, Srixon 745/945, TM M2, Epon, etc. - some new tech, some updated tech and it's all great for golfers, and now a new guy on the block, Parsons, is challenging other OEMs to do more -- it will benefit all of us in the long run.

 

Don't harrass, but celebrate. We will benefit eventually.

 

 

(So you don't like Parsons? Who cares? I've worked with clients who are like him. No, I don't socialize with most of them, don't like many of their characteristics, but they are driven individuals who will push, push, push their people beyond their capabilties - some of the results are great, some are over the top, and some employees are pounded into the dirt ... welcome to the circus)

 

Nothing in the PXGS is new tech. It's all been done before and it's been addressed multiple times here. Where are you seeing new tech in any if the clubs you listed?

[jmvargas]

I guess you can replace mediocre job with a successful family who passed everything his way. I wonder if he managed the same club his parents belong to. It would surely explain the condescending attitude.

 

our family was actually the original developer of the club which was just a bare piece of waterfront property in the beginning...

 

we also had 2 swiss expat GMs before me in the beginning until it was decided that our local talent was just as good if not better than the imports..

 

and i also thank the Lord everyday for being slightly privileged and try my best to give back whenever i can...

[Sean2]

I think they make beautiful golf equipment. Would their clubs, compared to my current clubs, drop my scores, increase my distance, make me a better golfer overall?

 

Probably not.

 

But, if I had the money I would purchase a complete set simply based on looks alone (never done that before). Plus, I was an 0311, so there is that. :-)

[Hack1]

I'll hit these the next time I am at Club Champion having my lofts checked.

 

No matter what they feel like I won't buy them. I seriously cannot afford them and I do not like the screws.

 

The Miuras will have to do for a long long time.

 

 

[tsecor]

I guess you can replace mediocre job with a successful family who passed everything his way. I wonder if he managed the same club his parents belong to. It would surely explain the condescending attitude.

 

our family was actually the original developer of the club which was just a bare piece of waterfront property in the beginning...

 

we also had 2 swiss expat GMs before me in the beginning until it was decided the our local talent was just as good if not better than the imports..

 

and i also thank the Lord everyday for being slightly privileged and try my best to give back whenever i can...

your family built a club, employed people and created something from nothing? don't let anyone ever make you feel guilty. Hard work is what is real, not some other person who has done nothing in life tying to make you feel guilty. You are not privileged, your family EARNED IT. Privileged is an illegal immigrant coming to America and getting more welfare than an American citizen and taking your job.

[jmvargas]

I guess you can replace mediocre job with a successful family who passed everything his way. I wonder if he managed the same club his parents belong to. It would surely explain the condescending attitude.

 

our family was actually the original developer of the club which was just a bare piece of waterfront property in the beginning...

 

we also had 2 swiss expat GMs before me in the beginning until it was decided the our local talent was just as good if not better than the imports..

 

and i also thank the Lord everyday for being slightly privileged and try my best to give back whenever i can...

your family built a club, employed people and created something from nothing? don't let anyone ever make you feel guilty. Hard work is what is real, not some other person who has done nothing in life tying to make you feel guilty. You are not privileged, your family EARNED IT. Privileged is an illegal immigrant coming to America and getting more welfare than an American citizen and taking your job.

 

 

...many thanks for your kind words sir....

[SwingMan]

I don't understand the ruckus ... it's just a golf club company selling golf clubs.

 

I think the putters with the screws everywhere are too busy -- not my look -- there are better ways to hide adjustable weighting in a putter (I think).

 

So the irons are a little avant garde -- I mean you can't be ordinary in this business -- you've got to be out of the box to attract attention and customers.

 

It's in a class of distance irons - CF16, Srixon 745/945, TM M2, Epon, etc. - some new tech, some updated tech and it's all great for golfers, and now a new guy on the block, Parsons, is challenging other OEMs to do more -- it will benefit all of us in the long run.

 

Don't harrass, but celebrate. We will benefit eventually.

 

 

(So you don't like Parsons? Who cares? I've worked with clients who are like him. No, I don't socialize with most of them, don't like many of their characteristics, but they are driven individuals who will push, push, push their people beyond their capabilties - some of the results are great, some are over the top, and some employees are pounded into the dirt ... welcome to the circus)

 

Nothing in the PXGS is new tech. It's all been done before and it's been addressed multiple times here. Where are you seeing new tech in any if the clubs you listed?

 

Okay, haven't seen that discussion, but it's a long thread.

 

Okay, how about an innovative use of tech?

 

People get sooo cranky here. Let's lighten up. It's a freakin' golf club, not single payer health care - lol.

 

Say what you will about the screws, but a PXG account can adjust them -- haven't seen that type of adjustment in an iron recently. Maybe you have. Haven't seen the thermowhatever support a super thin face. Havent' seen much cup face tech in irons, at least not in the USA. Callaway is going after it in a forging. The rest - a hardened steel and/or thinner face insert has been previously used - Epon and probably others have used it. I believe Srixon uses something similar as Epon - the look is similar. Probably used by lots of JDM, but I don't go there.

 

Personally, I am fatigued with the PXG debate. Good luck with further discussion.

 

PXG resistance is futile. Assimilate .... :-)

[mbshaf]

I would love to try PXG before I pull the trigger on T-MBs, but can get a response from them on their website about getting fit in Atlanta. I looked at the fitting experience in Scottsdale, but that seems to be set for either the people who didn't earn their money or idiots that will allow themselves to be fleeced to be able to impress someone that they did. For the fitting experience you get a club fitting, two nights at the four seasons, three meals and drinks at the course, 14 clubs and two hosted rounds at the course. If fitting is 500, 4 Seasons 1K per night, 14 clubs 5K, 100 breakfast and 100 lunch and 200 dinner, 500 per round on golf, that's still only 8900. Not sure where the other 3600 dollars gets attributed here. I honestly can get past paying 5k for a set of clubs if they are exactly the right fit - even though I'm sure I can find pretty darn close for about 35% less. However, setting something at an exorbitant price for the sake of doing so only seems to highlight the lack of common sense in those partaking of the "experience". Perhaps there's a significant value not being spelled out that would cover the other 3600 starting price?

 

All that aside - does anyone know where you can get fit in the Southeast?

[3leggedpony]

If you go to the Scottsdale fitting experience do they go so far as to adjust which screws go in which positions in the irons as well as the woods? It seems like the design was set up for that to be allowed but they haven't offered it, at least not widely