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I'll add the price discounts have worked. I was at my local golfsmith today ordering the new iblade and all the bay's were full of people trying all the vapor fly range. All 8 or 9 booths full with people waiting to try the drivers,fairways,and hybrids.

 

Seems like it was a good move on the price drop. Peaked a lot of people's attention to them that maybe wouldn't have looked twice before. That's even in uppity Brentwood Tennessee. Mostly titleist and ping strong holds for the area.

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I think your post was spot on. I think Nike learned the hard way that using blue as a major differentiator did not help sales. And honestly, the price drop probably is a punt to get what they can before launching the new line.. Nike's best case scenario is that some early adopters give the gear a try, fall in love and then purchase when they launch anything in the future. But for most, even if they like the gear, they won't buy the new stuff and would wait until the new gear received a price drop like now.

 

What do you / others think if Nike came out as a lower priced manufacturer in 2017? Would that lessen the brand or get you concerned about their gear? For me, I've bought in to Nike not having the fat game improvement gear and being high-end tailored to athletes wanting the best control. If they lowered price, they would probably associate closer to Adams or Tour Edge.

 

(Sorry all, don't mean to derail the thread if an annoyance)

 

I don't necessarily think that if Nike came out as a lower priced option in 2017 it would immediately put them in the Adams/Tour Edge category. I think that the gradual increase in price, in my opinion, unnecessarily by OEMs has inflated the "norm" of MSRP to a crazy range. $499 for a 915D2? That just seemed crazy to me when I saw that. It's not like Titleist is pushing the limits of technology or using expensive materials in their drivers, nor do I consider them to be premium or superior to any other driver in terms of quality. The 915 line is arguably not much different than the 910 or 913 to justify $500, to me is pushing it. If Nike made a product that performs well, incorporates new technology, and appeals to a broader market AND is $349 or something like that, I can only think it would help them sell more units without the consumer thinking the product is cheap or inferior.

 

Another thing Nike has going for them is that they are #1 in apparel and have huge tour names using their stuff. If their athletes start winning and start winning majors, I think they have a lot of momentum and platform to market to a lot of golfers of all ranges. If the rumors of DJ or Day pan out, people are going to want to play Nike just because they want to play what some of the best golfers in the world use. I still think that their equipment needs to get better and maybe a little more uniformity in their lines with the limited edition/flashy stuff mixed in to keep the Nike loyalists engaged as well. I have a few good ideas of how they could execute this, but my consulting fee is high :tongue: :drinks:

 

Definitely agree on the price creep.. I was thinking about that on the drive home. If you are new to the game and want to buy new sticks, you would be spending a minimum $1,300 even with this Nike price drop. That's crazy..

 

You have the hookups, I'm guessing you can get us both in for a handsome fee!

Driver - Taylormade 2016 M1 10.5˚ AD-DI 6s
3W - Taylormade 2016 M1 15˚
3H -Nike Sasquatch Sumo 2
4-P - Nike Vapor Pro Modus 120 Stiff
Wedges - Nike Engage Square 52˚ 56˚ Dual Sole 60˚
Putter - Nike Method 001
Ball - Nike RZN Platinum
Bag - Nike Vapor Air Hybrid Carry

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From a sales standpoint its a coin toss, in this case it worked out well as the stuff flew out of everyones inventory, especially the drivers!

From a marketing standpoint its brilliant because it worked, You get people who were holding on to old equipment because they couldnt afford the new stuff now can, you get people who were holding on to other equipment who didnt want to spend the money to switch, and now could. All these people are going to show up at their local courses sporting brand new blue equipment and its going to be a coversation starter, people are going to want to hit their buddies new driver or fairway wood. Which can lead to additional sales of current amd new equipment. Equipment sales are down and have been for a few years, this allows for nike to say hey we sold out of "units" and not so much "hey look at the money we made". Nike of all companies with the exception of maybe TM/Adidas is not going to miss the money. They can take a minimal (if that) hit on the money in order to show a larger number of units sold and get more of their product on the course.

 

It doesn't help marketing if the new gear comes out in a different color.. Go looking for the blue and find orange or whatever they do. There are some benefits, just some opportunity cost and positioning that was missed out.

Driver - Taylormade 2016 M1 10.5˚ AD-DI 6s
3W - Taylormade 2016 M1 15˚
3H -Nike Sasquatch Sumo 2
4-P - Nike Vapor Pro Modus 120 Stiff
Wedges - Nike Engage Square 52˚ 56˚ Dual Sole 60˚
Putter - Nike Method 001
Ball - Nike RZN Platinum
Bag - Nike Vapor Air Hybrid Carry

Twitter - @CoreyMilstein
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What the debate on new blades or not coming out looks like:

 

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What we're hoping for:

 

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What will happen: (no blades or new blades do come out but WRXers hate the look)

 

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Driver: Who knows at this point smh

Titleist 917f2 13.5*

Taylormade P790 UDI 2

Ping iCrossover - 3 iron

Taylormade P7MB 4-AW DG 105x

Mizuno T22 50* Blue Ion Modus 115x

Mizuno T22 54 Denim Copper TI S400/Vokey SM5 54F

Mizuno MCraft Type VI

 

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I think the right thing to do was bundle these things. Keep the price the same and at least get hybrids, fairways or balls involved. Let people experience the whole line. I think 2 years ago there was an iron/driver sale my buddy took advantage of.

 

Unfortunately us first movers get hosed. The bargain hunters got a steal this year (if you bought the flex imo)

 

looks like I'll wait til August if I'm in the market for a Nike driver next year.

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I'll add the price discounts have worked. I was at my local golfsmith today ordering the new iblade and all the bay's were full of people trying all the vapor fly range. All 8 or 9 booths full with people waiting to try the drivers,fairways,and hybrids.

 

Seems like it was a good move on the price drop. Peaked a lot of people's attention to them that maybe wouldn't have looked twice before. That's even in uppity Brentwood Tennessee. Mostly titleist and ping strong holds for the area.

 

PIQUED :-D

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For those of you who have the VFP 2 iron, what shaft did y'all go with? I'm considering ordering one and I'm undecided on the shaft. I'm leaning towards going with a graphite shaft and trying to set it up kind of like Spieth's 3 iron. Any suggestions?

Titleist TSi3 10.5* - Fujikura Ventus Red 6S
TaylorMade Stealth Plus 15* - Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7S
TaylorMade UDI 2 iron - Tour Only Project X HZRDUS 105g 6.5
TaylorMade RSI 3 iron - KBS C Taper X
Mizuno JPX 919 Forged 4 iron - KBS C Taper X
Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5-PW - KBS C Taper X
TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 54* SB - KBS C Taper S
TaylorMade Milled Grind Hi-Toe 58* - KBS C Taper S
Custom Cameron & Crown Mallet 1 or Futura 5W w/ custom flow neck
TaylorMade TP5x 

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For those of you who have the VFP 2 iron, what shaft did y'all go with? I'm considering ordering one and I'm undecided on the shaft. I'm leaning towards going with a graphite shaft and trying to set it up kind of like Spieth's 3 iron. Any suggestions?

 

i went with the same as my other clubs - C Taper X... flight is perfect and the club is stupid easy to hit... i play Scottish links so use the club off the tee a lot on my home course...

  • Titleist TSR3 9* Ventus Black 6X
  • Taylormade Sim2 15* Tensei White 80TX
  • TM Stealth 2 Iron or Ping i59 3 iron Project X 7.0
  • Artisan MB 4-9 Project X 7.0
  • Artisan 46*, 50* Project X 6.5
  • Artisan  55*, 60* S400
  • Artisan BlueBonnet Carbon 0217
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For those of you who have the VFP 2 iron, what shaft did y'all go with? I'm considering ordering one and I'm undecided on the shaft. I'm leaning towards going with a graphite shaft and trying to set it up kind of like Spieth's 3 iron. Any suggestions?

 

Veylix Rome 988 Wildeye, it's like cheating plus the shafts look freakin sweet

 

Mula, how are the Steelfibers? That was one of the options Nike gave me. I hit the Recoil last night and really liked it. Had the lightweight feel of a graphite shaft, but felt stable and loaded up like a steel shaft.

Titleist TSi3 10.5* - Fujikura Ventus Red 6S
TaylorMade Stealth Plus 15* - Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7S
TaylorMade UDI 2 iron - Tour Only Project X HZRDUS 105g 6.5
TaylorMade RSI 3 iron - KBS C Taper X
Mizuno JPX 919 Forged 4 iron - KBS C Taper X
Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5-PW - KBS C Taper X
TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 54* SB - KBS C Taper S
TaylorMade Milled Grind Hi-Toe 58* - KBS C Taper S
Custom Cameron & Crown Mallet 1 or Futura 5W w/ custom flow neck
TaylorMade TP5x 

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For those of you who have the VFP 2 iron, what shaft did y'all go with? I'm considering ordering one and I'm undecided on the shaft. I'm leaning towards going with a graphite shaft and trying to set it up kind of like Spieth's 3 iron. Any suggestions?

 

Veylix Rome 988 Wildeye, it's like cheating plus the shafts look freakin sweet

 

Mula, how are the Steelfibers? That was one of the options Nike gave me. I hit the Recoil last night and really liked it. Had the lightweight feel of a graphite shaft, but felt stable and loaded up like a steel shaft.

 

Steelfibers feel even more like a steel shaft in my opinion the recoils didn't feel stable enough

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For those of you who have the VFP 2 iron, what shaft did y'all go with? I'm considering ordering one and I'm undecided on the shaft. I'm leaning towards going with a graphite shaft and trying to set it up kind of like Spieth's 3 iron. Any suggestions?

 

Ordered with tourV 120X, replaced with NV105 hybrid. It's money.

Cobra F9 TL 10.5 Atmos Black 7x
Cobra F8+ 3/4 &/or 5/6 Tour Blue 85x
Cobra F8 2H Element EarthX &/or Cobra F9 4H PX6.5
Ping I210 5-PW LZ 6.0
Ping Stealth 2.0 50/54/58 LZ 6.0

Some form of a Scotty, Betti, Spider

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For those of you who have the VFP 2 iron, what shaft did y'all go with? I'm considering ordering one and I'm undecided on the shaft. I'm leaning towards going with a graphite shaft and trying to set it up kind of like Spieth's 3 iron. Any suggestions?

 

Veylix Rome 988 Wildeye, it's like cheating plus the shafts look freakin sweet

 

Mula I did as you said and checked these out. So sexy!!!

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[size=2][color=#0000ff]Vapor Fly[/color] Driver[/size]
[size=2][color=#ff0000]VR Pro 3[/color] Fairway[/size]
[size=2][color=#ff0000]VR Pro 5 [/color][/size][size=2]Fairway[/size]
[size=2][color=#0000ff]Vapor Fly 7 [/color][/size][size=2]Fairway[/size]
[size=2][color=#0000cd]Vapor Fly 4 [/color]Hybrid[/size]
[size=2][color=#ff0000]VRs [/color]5-9 Irons[/size]
[size=2]Engage 54, 60 Square[/size]
[color=#0000cd][size=2]Method Origin RORS B2-01[/size][/color]
[size=2][color=#0000ff]RZN[/color] White[/size]
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Looks like no more new vpc, no new woods, and no TW vapor fly edition.

 

I like Nike equipment so sad to see this, but I'm not surprised.

Driver: Who knows at this point smh

Titleist 917f2 13.5*

Taylormade P790 UDI 2

Ping iCrossover - 3 iron

Taylormade P7MB 4-AW DG 105x

Mizuno T22 50* Blue Ion Modus 115x

Mizuno T22 54 Denim Copper TI S400/Vokey SM5 54F

Mizuno MCraft Type VI

 

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Damn...

 

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TaylorMade QI10 9* - Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 8TX

TaylorMade Stealth+ 15* - Fujikura Ventus Red 9TX

NIKE Vapor Fly Pro 3-4i - Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 95X

Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5 - KBS Tour 130X

Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 6-PW - DG TI X100

Mizuno T22 Raw 50* S, 55* D | TaylorMade Hi Toe 60* - DG TI S400

Scotty Cameron Select Squareback +

 

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I have so many questions, but I am sure they will be answered in the coming days/weeks/months. Sounds like we will be seeing more golfers with Nike apparel contracts only. Like...Under Armour.

TaylorMade QI10 9* - Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 8TX

TaylorMade Stealth+ 15* - Fujikura Ventus Red 9TX

NIKE Vapor Fly Pro 3-4i - Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 95X

Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5 - KBS Tour 130X

Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 6-PW - DG TI X100

Mizuno T22 Raw 50* S, 55* D | TaylorMade Hi Toe 60* - DG TI S400

Scotty Cameron Select Squareback +

 

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