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[Soloman1]

1 hour ago, bladehunter said:

Bison are absolutely dangerous and unpredictable in tame form in a fence.

 

i read or heard somewhere that they’re dumber than dirt. if you shoot a bird or coyote or some other animal, the ones around will scatter. shoot a bison and the ones next to it will just stand there eating more grass.

[mshills]

2 minutes ago, Soloman1 said:

 

i read or heard somewhere that they’re dumber than dirt. if you shoot a bird or coyote or some other animal, the ones around will scatter. shoot a bison and the ones next to it will just stand there eating more grass.

Dorado / Mahi Mahi / Dolphin (different names for the same delicious fish) are that way. You catch one, they tend to gather and you should be able to boat a good number. 

[Soloman1]

50 minutes ago, mshills said:

@aenemated and @Soloman1 🤣 how about this? 
 

The one circled….maybe two wrongs make a right…..nah.

 

I am afraid to click on the next two topics!

 

 

oh, it’s a madhouse over there.

 

ironically, a stronger trail hand grip will flatten the plane automatically without any thought.

 

don’t tell them that. 🙂

 

[Petethreeput]

@dashanksa lot has to do with what she is doing.  If she has the camping permit and is running up Slough to the 2nd or third meadow, and she isn't smart about food it's a real possibility.  Coming out of Slough a few years ago there were massive griz prints in the morning puddles along the road/trail.  So the bears are out there.  We had a seasoned camper who ate some food in their tent because they were in town get killed by a griz a couple of years ago about 45 miles from here.

 

The most dangerous animal is the moose, but they are not very common in Y'stone.  By numbers it is the bison, just last week an 80 year old SC woman got gored by a bison.  They look big and slow... they are not.  The other common one, particularly if they are going to spend time in Mammoth are the elk.  If a pedestrian unknowingly walks between the buck and the harem that can be a disaster.  Fortunately, there are so many folks milling around Mammoth, each elk has a ranger giving directions.

 

If she wants animals, the Lamar Valley is the spot for the predators, i.e. griz, black bear, and wolves.  But the best shot at seeing them is just at sunrise.  As the temps heat up, unless they are on a kill, they get up higher into the trees.  If you/she has the wherewithal a spotting scope is great.  We have never had great luck with binocs.  We usually get up at dark, drive down the Lamar and you will see the spotters/guides along the side of the road pretty much from the confluence of the Lamar all the way to Cooke City.  They have the wolf tags, so if you see vans and scopes, those are the wolf watchers.

 

The cars along the road are generally the other animals, though it is rare for a griz to be along a roadway, if there is a long line of cars she should stop to get the scoop.

 

It'll be great fun, and in the end, if she is watching wildlife she doesn't have to be fast, just faster than the person next to her.

Edited June 7 by Petethreeput

[Nard_S]

50 minutes ago, mshills said:

@aenemated and @Soloman1 🤣 how about this? 
 

The one circled….maybe two wrongs make a right…..nah.

 

I am afraid to click on the next two topics!

 

Looking back, the strong grip ethos was an attempt to get earlier wrist set and keep fingers under shaft. Good mass control and so not insane especially with nature of clubs played at that time. Irony is most guys I see who started in those years have to weak lead and too strong trail to this day. Post Tiger players tend to have a more neutral to strong bias. I find if handle is more in fingers more along knuckle line, near impossible to be too weak or too strong. 

[aenemated]

5 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

Looking back, the strong grip ethos was an attempt to get earlier wrist set and keep fingers under shaft. Good mass control and so not insane especially with nature of clubs played at that time. Irony is most guys I see who started in those years have to weak lead and too strong trail to this day. Post Tiger players tend to have a more neutral to strong bias. I find if handle is more in fingers more along knuckle line, near impossible to be too weak or too strong. 

 

For me; it just lead to my takeaway being very much like Daly. And in similar fashion, roll it over inside, massive shoulder turn, a mile across the line and loop it down into the slot. 

 

Relied a great deal on timing which was fine when I didn't have to do things like "work" and "pay bills" and what have you. 

[mshills]

16 minutes ago, aenemated said:

For me; it just lead to my takeaway being very much like Daly. And in similar fashion, roll it over inside, massive shoulder turn, a mile across the line and loop it down into the slot. 

 

Relied a great deal on timing which was fine when I didn't have to do things like "work" and "pay bills" and what have you. 

I added an extra step to all that, “stand up at impact.” Good luck timing all that, which helps explain some of my round differentials like 50-35 for a smoooooooth 85.

[Nard_S]

23 minutes ago, aenemated said:

 

For me; it just lead to my takeaway being very much like Daly. And in similar fashion, roll it over inside, massive shoulder turn, a mile across the line and loop it down into the slot. 

 

Relied a great deal on timing which was fine when I didn't have to do things like "work" and "pay bills" and what have you. 

Yeah, pretty much my MO. my tact has been stay neutral on grip and fix rest. Have general run on of back swing as major fault. That's a bigger meal than grip mod but that's really where the garbage is at. I don't find grip tweaks all that challenging, find why it's needed more perplexing, so I took that variable out. If hands work well together, I don't fuss too much.

[aenemated]

7 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

Yeah, pretty much my MO. my tact has been stay neutral on grip and fix rest. Have general run on of back swing as major fault. That's a bigger meal than grip mod but that's really where the garbage is at. I don't find grip tweaks all that challenging, find why it's needed more perplexing, so I took that variable out. If hands work well together, I don't fuss too much.

 

Same; neutral has worked much better helping stay on plane and not need so many compensations and timing. When it creeps strong - which still feels so familiar - and none of those happen anymore tis when the trouble starts. 

[Jim53]

2 hours ago, mshills said:

Dorado / Mahi Mahi / Dolphin (different names for the same delicious fish) are that way. You catch one, they tend to gather and you should be able to boat a good number. 

Back in the Swordfishing days I would haul back my 40 miles of gear and the Mahi would follow the boat eating the bait scrapes, by the time we were done there would be hundreds behind the boat. If we were in need of fuel money with hand lines could catch 1,000 lbs in 20 minutes, leave the 1st one trailing behind the boat and just bail them in with a piece of bright plastic on a hook with no barb. Hook it and flip it in the boat, throw it back out and repeat. 

It was fun for a while then turned into work yanking 20 lb fish in the boat.

Edited June 7 by Jim53

[Jim53]

After my scare last week I joined the local gym and just went for the 1st semi workout, it is going to take a month or so to get into shape to do a real workout.

 

I remember a Seinfeld joke about having to get in shape to go to the gym, it is very true.

I have made up my mind if I need to be cut for any reason they will have to cut muscle not this flab hanging off my bones..

[bladehunter]

3 hours ago, Soloman1 said:

 

i read or heard somewhere that they’re dumber than dirt. if you shoot a bird or coyote or some other animal, the ones around will scatter. shoot a bison and the ones next to it will just stand there eating more grass.

Oh yea.  Singular type thinking. No real fear of predators.   They think food , territory, breeding.  Maybe a few predator thoughts. But really. It would take a bear of large size , and desperation.  and even then they might get it first.  Plenty of bears killed trying to get a calf. They’re like water buffalo , with a bad hangover.  People that farm them.  Know. No fence will hold them if they decide to go out. They just go through it.  They’ll stay in for food. So feed on time.  😂

[mshills]

3 hours ago, Petethreeput said:

The most dangerous animal is the moose, but they are not very common in Y'stone.  By numbers it is the bison, just last week an 80 year old SC woman got gored by a bison.  They look big and slow... they are not.

Very true. I encountered a moose, not at close range but too close for me, on a canoe trip in the Boundary Waters some years ago. I was out away from camp for a bit, just wandering through some not dense woods, came to this meadow, all these flowers, just beautiful. Moose head popped up 😯😳 about 100 yards, maybe a little more, in front of me in that meadow. I very slowly backed into the cover of the trees while he studied me, not moving, head went back down and I headed back to camp. 
 

A bison, man if you’ve seen one moving with purpose and intent, nothing short of a .338 is stopping him.

[Soloman1]

here's the old boston dynamics atlas robot. he/she/they/them is being retired.

 

pretty impressive.

 

 

 

the new, improved model is named f.e.a.r = fully electric atlas robot.

 

good name, as you can tell from the look it's giving you here.

 

"you talkin' to me?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dashanks]

4 hours ago, Petethreeput said:

@dashanksa lot has to do with what she is doing.  If she has the camping permit and is running up Slough to the 2nd or third meadow, and she isn't smart about food it's a real possibility.  Coming out of Slough a few years ago there were massive griz prints in the morning puddles along the road/trail.  So the bears are out there.  We had a seasoned camper who ate some food in their tent because they were in town get killed by a griz a couple of years ago about 45 miles from here.

 

The most dangerous animal is the moose, but they are not very common in Y'stone.  By numbers it is the bison, just last week an 80 year old SC woman got gored by a bison.  They look big and slow... they are not.  The other common one, particularly if they are going to spend time in Mammoth are the elk.  If a pedestrian unknowingly walks between the buck and the harem that can be a disaster.  Fortunately, there are so many folks milling around Mammoth, each elk has a ranger giving directions.

 

If she wants animals, the Lamar Valley is the spot for the predators, i.e. griz, black bear, and wolves.  But the best shot at seeing them is just at sunrise.  As the temps heat up, unless they are on a kill, they get up higher into the trees.  If you/she has the wherewithal a spotting scope is great.  We have never had great luck with binocs.  We usually get up at dark, drive down the Lamar and you will see the spotters/guides along the side of the road pretty much from the confluence of the Lamar all the way to Cooke City.  They have the wolf tags, so if you see vans and scopes, those are the wolf watchers.

 

The cars along the road are generally the other animals, though it is rare for a griz to be along a roadway, if there is a long line of cars she should stop to get the scoop.

 

It'll be great fun, and in the end, if she is watching wildlife she doesn't have to be fast, just faster than the person next to her.

Thanks, I'll pass this along.  

[Soloman1]

things you might see in little japanese bars that you might not see elsewhere.

 

 

[BIG STU]

9 hours ago, mshills said:

 
Good stuff man really glad to hear about the weight loss and how you are striking the ball!

 

On the old Cameron are you going to clean it up / restore or do you like your putter to look used? I had a couple at one point that I wanted to try an amateur restore, then I realized they were too rough and I’d lose too much weight from all the grinding they’d have needed. I still have an OLD BG Fat Lady Swings that I want to clean up this coming winter as an experiment. Bought that putter brand new in (I think) 1991. 
 

Sounds like you did the Lee Trevino method of getting the club flat enough. 😁

I will tell you the story on the Rusty Scotty. Some of the old timers on here know about it. About 8 or 9 years ago now when I was working for the scrapyard several bins of clubs came in. Of course I was looking through them. Spied an old Titleist script cord grip sticking out. I had been finding a lot of Bulls Eyes at that time and figured it was another one. Pulled it out and through the rust and grime saw it was a Scotty Santa Fe. I bought it for the whopping price of 10 cents employee scrap price. Now this was on a Wednesday and we had a regular 9 hole game on Wednesday afternoon. I took it out there and my bud the Miura dealer laughed then offered me $100 as is. No dice. He dared me to putt with it in that afternoon's game. LOL I did and the rust flew and left rust spots on the ball no joke. Back then I could post pics and posted here in the Grille. @Conrad1953 said I did not have a hair on my butt if I did not putt with it as it was. Told him I had already done that. I found out the shaft was darn near rusted in two in several places. I pulled the shaft and let the head soak in my Coca Cola and white Vinegar mix until the weekend. It came out decent but still had patina because it was raw carbon steel. The sole was severely pitted. My bud the Miura dealer also had connections at Scotty Custom Works shop. He took pics and sent to a guy he knows there. To make it pristine they estimated taking at least .030 off the bottom and restamping. Would have cost me about $350 or so. The guy at Scotty told my friend that someone had inquired and had sent darn near the same pics in like several months before. He believed it was the same putter. What we theorized was someone with more money than sense threw it in a lake or creek. It had set for a while and someone evidently found it and had visions of grandeur and the price like for me scared them off. They more or less scrapped it because the bin it was in was full of rusty clubs. I did put lead tape on the sole because it felt light. Over the years I have changed out different shafts and grips. I was trying to steady my hands and had so much lead tape on it I had to use epoxy. I think when I threw it down and popped the lead tape off I may have flattened it some. I will admit I may have overdone it on the tape. It putted and rolled the ball good today on our crappy greens and felt good.

No it will remain Rusty because it serves me well and besides it drives the shiny prim and proper Scotty Crowd wild

Oh trust me I know well about "Trevino Adjustments" Lee was always one of my favorites. One time I was at my current course messing with a Anser I found on the scrap pile. This was at the height of tourist season and it was crowded. I was messing with the Anser and found it closed and not enough loft. Went over to the curb and banged it hard. the owner of the course was tending outside bar and asked me if I got it right? I told him yeah I think so. The tourons stared in disbelief. He told them that ain't squat in my world You ought to see me bend a forged iron on the spring shackle of an Ez Go golf cart. One of the bar patrons offered up the fact they made machines for stuff like that. The owner told him yeah he knows he has his own loft and lie machine at his shop. 

[bscinstnct]

7 hours ago, Jim53 said:

After my scare last week I joined the local gym and just went for the 1st semi workout, it is going to take a month or so to get into shape to do a real workout.

 

I remember a Seinfeld joke about having to get in shape to go to the gym, it is very true.

I have made up my mind if I need to be cut for any reason they will have to cut muscle not this flab hanging off my bones..

 

Awesome! Yes take is slow, ain’t a race 

 

Tell ya, after 15+ years of not training, I was too embarrassed to even go to the gym! I bought those colored workout bands and used them at home for a couple months. 
 

Then I joined the gym, then I went like clockwork, then I got a bike 🚴 and worked up to 20-30 mile rides. 

 

10 years later I’m in better shape than HS Uncle Rico football 

 

You get started now, keep working and….

 

 

Edited June 8 by bscinstnct

[Soloman1]

speaking of shallowing the plane, i found long ago that telling someone what to feel is not very effective. so, i put them in a setup where they had to do it on their own. let their athleticism and coordination do it.

 

no talking, explaining, thinking, analyzing or searching for one of the multitude triggers that might or might not connect.

 

take a 7 or 8 iron. rotate the club in the grip so the face is about 10 - 20° closed. now try to hit a straight shot.

 

your body will figure it out within a couple of swings.

 

conventional wisdom is not always wise. don’t hate me because i'm different. 🙂

 

 

 

[dashanks]

12 hours ago, bladehunter said:

🤣.  All she has to do is not poke one.  Or try to ride a bison.  🦬 seriously.  Theses people are literally committing forms of suicide with these selfies.  Bison are absolutely dangerous and unpredictable in tame form in a fence.  Raised by man.  They are so wild.    
 

The wild ones are more dangerous than a bear. No crap.  All you have to do is leave them alone. And you’ll be fine.  

I would think that anybody with a little common sense has a good chance of visiting Yellowstone without being eaten by a bear.  And I say that as a city guy who didn't spend a whole lot of time in predator infested woods.  My major priority would be to not be eaten by a bear.  I'm sure you can ask for advice on that when you enter the park.  Or at least they probably have some literature available.  And why would a bear bother to hunt me down when he can always just grab some idiot who wants to take a selfie with him? 

[Soloman1]

i recommend carrying bear spray and a hand grenade.

[dashanks]

See, you might not make it.

[Wooley12]

[aenemated]

Ah, bears are just big puppies. Couple scritches and all's good.

 

[Jim53]

23 minutes ago, aenemated said:

Ah, bears are just big puppies. Couple scritches and all's good.

 

Is that the guy that got eaten?

[Jim53]

1 hour ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Awesome! Yes take is slow, ain’t a race 

 

Tell ya, after 15+ years of not training, I was too embarrassed to even go to the gym! I bought those colored workout bands and used them at home for a couple months. 
 

Then I joined the gym, then I went like clockwork, then I got a bike 🚴 and worked up to 20-30 mile rides. 

 

10 years later I’m in better shape than HS Uncle Rico football 

 

You get started now, keep working and….

 

 

Well I just hope to be a bit more fit 65 yr old and maybe see 66. Having been fit for many years, I remember feeling strong and want that back.

No excuse now, it is open 24/7 and I am 5 min away on a back road...mostly I am after stronger legs and lower back, the rest will just follow along. 

Of course a draining of the knee will happen next week, but that will just ease the pain.

[dashanks]

25 minutes ago, Jim53 said:

Is that the guy that got eaten?

He's tryin'.

[aenemated]

Gotta go somehow! 

[BIG STU]

13 hours ago, mshills said:

Very true. I encountered a moose, not at close range but too close for me, on a canoe trip in the Boundary Waters some years ago. I was out away from camp for a bit, just wandering through some not dense woods, came to this meadow, all these flowers, just beautiful. Moose head popped up 😯😳 about 100 yards, maybe a little more, in front of me in that meadow. I very slowly backed into the cover of the trees while he studied me, not moving, head went back down and I headed back to camp. 
 

A bison, man if you’ve seen one moving with purpose and intent, nothing short of a .338 is stopping him.

I have a lever action .45/.70 they do not call those Buffalo Guns for nothing. I keep it maintained but have not actually shot it in 25 years. I keep all my ammo in real Military surplus ammo boxes.

I can remember my first trucking trip really up North. I had to pull a portable generator for a hospital in Anchorage Alaska. Had to run the Al Can highway. Those old timer truckers told me never to blow the air horns at a Moose especially in mating season. They will charge a moving truck in a heartbeat. I have seen pictures of such an encounter and it ain't pretty

Edited June 8 by BIG STU

[SnowbirdTom]

It's hard to comprehend a bull moose's size until they get within a couple hundred yards.  Buddy and I were standing on a floating dock fishing for trout just north of Anchorage and we heard crashing thru the woods.  Out pops the biggest creature I've ever seen, a Bullwinkle on steroids.  Easy 2500 pounds wearing a yellow radio collar and towered over us, rack seemed a good six feet across.  He got within 100 yards and I asked my buddy if he could swim.  😆 Totally ignored us and just kept moving slow, munching his way down the path.

 

We were crazy about fishing, but that was our last visit to that lake.  There were also reports of a grizzly in that area. We got lucky.