Tiger Woods WITB 2017

[Holy Moses]

just for show, we were joking about Tiger has the new M3 irons in his bag.

 

Ah, good catch.

[TheMoneyShot]

 

That TM bag with his name on it is pretty nice looking.

 

He won’t use it in competition but cool to see it.

 

Unless his Monster contract was up at the end if 2017?

[jll62]

https://twitter.com/...266037302185990

 

That TM bag with his name on it is pretty nice looking.

 

He won’t use it in competition but cool to see it.

 

Unless his Monster contract was up at the end if 2017?

 

I can't see Tiger ever going back to an OEM bag deal. Gotta maximize those endorsement dollars.

[Holy Moses]

 

That TM bag with his name on it is pretty nice looking.

 

He won’t use it in competition but cool to see it.

 

Unless his Monster contract was up at the end if 2017?

 

It was a multi-year deal unless Monster pulled out

[TheMoneyShot]

 

That TM bag with his name on it is pretty nice looking.

 

He won’t use it in competition but cool to see it.

 

Unless his Monster contract was up at the end if 2017?

 

It was a multi-year deal unless Monster pulled out

 

When did he sign that deal? 2 years ago right?

[Holy Moses]

 

That TM bag with his name on it is pretty nice looking.

 

He won’t use it in competition but cool to see it.

 

Unless his Monster contract was up at the end if 2017?

 

It was a multi-year deal unless Monster pulled out

 

When did he sign that deal? 2 years ago right?

 

Fall of ‘16

[jonn443]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

[Lesmond]

Well, Technically he’s not full TM. He’s not using their ball.

[SigmaKyle31987]

or their Putter, that Cameron will not leave his bag again.

[TheMoneyShot]

Well, Technically he’s not full TM. He’s not using their ball.

 

Or their putter/staff bag.

[jll62]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

[TheMoneyShot]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

 

You will be in 7th heaven when he shows up with 13 TM sticks in the bag...

[jll62]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

 

You will be in 7th heaven when he shows up with 13 TM sticks in the bag...

 

:yes:

[Fort Worth Pro]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

 

He put that in play for a week just to get a head. He sent it to get tested. Wasn't long after that he made his proclamation that he knew there were illegal drivers on tour. Wonder how he knew?

[jll62]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

 

He put that in play for a week just to get a head. He sent it to get tested. Wasn't long after that he made his proclamation that he knew there were illegal drivers on tour. Wonder how he knew?

 

I'm aware of the backstory. But he didn't have to play the club to get a head. That's where the whole story falls down, and always has.

[Fort Worth Pro]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

 

He put that in play for a week just to get a head. He sent it to get tested. Wasn't long after that he made his proclamation that he knew there were illegal drivers on tour. Wonder how he knew?

 

I'm aware of the backstory. But he didn't have to play the club to get a head. That's where the whole story falls down, and always has.

 

The story falls down? You insinuating it isn't true??

[bladehunter]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

 

He put that in play for a week just to get a head. He sent it to get tested. Wasn't long after that he made his proclamation that he knew there were illegal drivers on tour. Wonder how he knew?

 

I'm aware of the backstory. But he didn't have to play the club to get a head. That's where the whole story falls down, and always has.

 

I’m sure he had to do so to get a hot one. How else would he get one ?

[jll62]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

 

He put that in play for a week just to get a head. He sent it to get tested. Wasn't long after that he made his proclamation that he knew there were illegal drivers on tour. Wonder how he knew?

 

I'm aware of the backstory. But he didn't have to play the club to get a head. That's where the whole story falls down, and always has.

 

I'm sure he had to do so to get a hot one. How else would he get one ?

 

Ask for one? How else would he have gotten the one he put into play? There wasn't going to be a rep standing on the first tee to take the club back if Tiger didn't put the club in play.

[jll62]

I don't know about you all, but it is extremely weird to see Tiger full bore Taylormade... never thought I'd see him join the "Darkside".

 

Crazy.

 

I've been holding out hope ever since he briefly put the R510 TP in his bag that one time in Europe.

 

He put that in play for a week just to get a head. He sent it to get tested. Wasn't long after that he made his proclamation that he knew there were illegal drivers on tour. Wonder how he knew?

 

I'm aware of the backstory. But he didn't have to play the club to get a head. That's where the whole story falls down, and always has.

 

The story falls down? You insinuating it isn't true??

 

My post wasn't very clear. Sorry. What falls down is the idea that the head was hot. There's never been any proof that the 510 DF he put in play was hot. In 2003, Tiger was pissed that people were hitting it past him and he started claiming drivers were hot. I remember it well. Did he have the driver tested? I'm sure of it, but I've never seen anything that shows that head was hot. If I'm wrong, find me a source and I'll happily backtrack on the way I remember it all.

[Fort Worth Pro]

 

My post wasn't very clear. Sorry. What falls down is the idea that the head was hot. There's never been any proof that the 510 DF he put in play was hot. In 2003, Tiger was pissed that people were hitting it past him and he started claiming drivers were hot. I remember it well. Did he have the driver tested? I'm sure of it, but I've never seen anything that shows that head was hot. If I'm wrong, find me a source and I'll happily backtrack on the way I remember it all.

 

I worked in the lab where the head was tested

[jll62]

My post wasn't very clear. Sorry. What falls down is the idea that the head was hot. There's never been any proof that the 510 DF he put in play was hot. In 2003, Tiger was pissed that people were hitting it past him and he started claiming drivers were hot. I remember it well. Did he have the driver tested? I'm sure of it, but I've never seen anything that shows that head was hot. If I'm wrong, find me a source and I'll happily backtrack on the way I remember it all.

 

I worked in the lab where the head was tested

 

LOL...I had a funny feeling

 

This was pre CT test, correct? So it was the original COR test?

[TaylorMade Golf]

Correct Jesse, was pre-CT test, so it was the .830 COR limit and manufacturers were permitted to make faces up to .822 to allow for slight tolerances.

 

The USGA and R&A aligned on .830 COR after initially agreeing to go separate ways. The R&A allowed organizers of events featuring "highly skilled golfers" to put in place a .830 COR limit and in April 2004, the R&A announced that it would impose the .830 COR limit in the British Amateur and Open Championship (Troon).

 

The R510 TP (which was awesome BTW), was only ever made in the .830 COR version, i.e. we never made a .860 MAX COR version as this was a low quantity/production SKU.

 

We differentiated the head as per this image below - the .830 COR versions had the model name engraved high toe on the face and the .860 MAX COR versions (which were conforming in R&A governed territories until 2008, had MAX engraved high toe on the face).

 

 

 

So the confusion may have come from the switchover period when some .860 MAX COR model variations were made available for amateur golfers and the .830 COR versions were only ever given to Tour pros, elite amateurs who may play in professional events, etc. But, the R510 TP was only ever made in a .830 COR version.

 

 

 

Tiger played the .830 COR R510 TP at the Deutsche Bank SAP Open in May 2003 and it was an iconic high launch, low spin deep face driver that we made from learnings on the 300 Series driver and the XR-03 Driver (Europe and Japan only).

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Ryan

[justasgood]

Dropping knowledge on da peeps.....

[TheMoneyShot]

Correct Jesse, was pre-CT test, so it was the .830 COR limit and manufacturers were permitted to make faces up to .822 to allow for slight tolerances.

 

The USGA and R&A aligned on .830 COR after initially agreeing to go separate ways. The R&A allowed organizers of events featuring "highly skilled golfers" to put in place a .830 COR limit and in April 2004, the R&A announced that it would impose the .830 COR limit in the British Amateur and Open Championship (Troon).

 

The R510 TP (which was awesome BTW), was only ever made in the .830 COR version, i.e. we never made a .860 MAX COR version as this was a low quantity/production SKU.

 

We differentiated the head as per this image below - the .830 COR versions had the model name engraved high toe on the face and the .860 MAX COR versions (which were conforming in R&A governed territories until 2008, had MAX engraved high toe on the face).

 

 

 

So the confusion may have come from the switchover period when some .860 MAX COR model variations were made available for amateur golfers and the .830 COR versions were only ever given to Tour pros, elite amateurs who may play in professional events, etc. But, the R510 TP was only ever made in a .830 COR version.

 

 

 

Tiger played the .830 COR R510 TP at the Deutsche Bank SAP Open in May 2003 and it was an iconic high launch, low spin deep face driver that we made from learnings on the 300 Series driver and the XR-03 Driver (Europe and Japan only).

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Ryan

 

Now, that is what I call a detailed response!

[Holy Moses]

Was every R510 TP sent to a Tour pro tested by TaylorMade to make sure it was only at .830 COR?

[Fort Worth Pro]

Was every R510 TP sent to a Tour pro tested by TaylorMade to make sure it was only at .830 COR?

 

It was not feasible to COR test every driver sent to tour. It was a test that took a long time to finish and the face had to be marked up. It could also only be done to heads with no shaft. That is the reason the USGA developed the CT test.

[Holy Moses]

Was every R510 TP sent to a Tour pro tested by TaylorMade to make sure it was only at .830 COR?

 

It was not feasible to COR test every driver sent to tour. It was a test that took a long time to finish and the face had to be marked up. It could also only be done to heads with no shaft. That is the reason the USGA developed the CT test.

 

So Tiger’s could have been hot?

[Fort Worth Pro]

Was every R510 TP sent to a Tour pro tested by TaylorMade to make sure it was only at .830 COR?

 

It was not feasible to COR test every driver sent to tour. It was a test that took a long time to finish and the face had to be marked up. It could also only be done to heads with no shaft. That is the reason the USGA developed the CT test.

 

So Tiger’s could have been hot?

 

Theoretically yes it could have been.

[Peanut191]

Was every R510 TP sent to a Tour pro tested by TaylorMade to make sure it was only at .830 COR?

 

It was not feasible to COR test every driver sent to tour. It was a test that took a long time to finish and the face had to be marked up. It could also only be done to heads with no shaft. That is the reason the USGA developed the CT test.

 

So Tiger's could have been hot?

 

Theoretically yes it could have been.

 

Theoretically? Thought you worked in the lab where they measured his to be hot. Did you see a measurement of that head that was over the limit at that lab?

[Fort Worth Pro]

Was every R510 TP sent to a Tour pro tested by TaylorMade to make sure it was only at .830 COR?

 

It was not feasible to COR test every driver sent to tour. It was a test that took a long time to finish and the face had to be marked up. It could also only be done to heads with no shaft. That is the reason the USGA developed the CT test.

 

So Tiger's could have been hot?

 

Theoretically yes it could have been.

 

Theoretically? Thought you worked in the lab where they measured his to be hot. Did you see a measurement of that head that was over the limit at that lab?

 

I saw the measurement. Read my statement however you want. I haven't said one way or another that that his head tested hot. Just that he got that one tested and then said he knew there were hot heads on tour. I never said what the results of his test were.