Getting really frustrated by the length of rounds.

[rsj1360]

He is THE slow player. Look at any thread on here about slow play and he's the guy cheering for 5 hour rounds and screaming that everyone else is wrong to want to play faster than a sedated snail.

 

Fast play is amazing. I can mark my ball, review my putt, take 2 practice swings, clean my clubs, lose balls, hit poor shots, take penalty strokes, shoot the sh** and never slow down anyone. Also, I play a lot of good golf when I'm not waiting around. Our foursome routinely plays in 3-3:30.

 

This whole argument that slow is better is just absurd. When is the last time you heard a golfer leave the course saying, "well that was fun but dude played way too fast"?? Never. The answer is never.

As a matter of fact I just heard a guy I was paired with this past weekend (someone I didn't know) say something almost exactly like that.

[trumb1mj1]

I’m guessing he’s also a slow player. You guys enjoy a nice, leisurely 4.5 hour round? Why would someone else playing fast impact someone else in any way? Maybe it makes you feel guilty for being a slow player?

[MtlJeff]

I’m guessing he’s also a slow player. You guys enjoy a nice, leisurely 4.5 hour round?

 

I'd much prefer to play in 3 1/2 hours every time, i've played walking foursomes in less than that quite often. But i am basically an adonis and my usual group is other able bodied sportsmen ....A lot of golfers are overweight slovenly messes, that's why they play golf instead of run spartan races. I don't think it's as easy to play in that time frame for everyone who plays the game to walk 8-10 kilometers briskly, as i wrote. I know a lot of guys who are in need of a massage after a round

[trumb1mj1]

I’m guessing he’s also a slow player. You guys enjoy a nice, leisurely 4.5 hour round?

 

I'd much prefer to play in 3 1/2 hours every time, i've played walking foursomes in less than that quite often. But i am basically an adonis and my usual group is other able bodied sportsmen ....A lot of golfers are overweight slovenly messes, that's why they play golf instead of run spartan races. I don't think it's as easy to play in that time frame for everyone who plays the game to walk 8-10 kilometers briskly, as i wrote. I know a lot of guys who are in need of a massage after a round

 

If they cannot play in a reasonable pace, maybe golf is not for them.

[MtlJeff]

I’m guessing he’s also a slow player. You guys enjoy a nice, leisurely 4.5 hour round?

 

I'd much prefer to play in 3 1/2 hours every time, i've played walking foursomes in less than that quite often. But i am basically an adonis and my usual group is other able bodied sportsmen ....A lot of golfers are overweight slovenly messes, that's why they play golf instead of run spartan races. I don't think it's as easy to play in that time frame for everyone who plays the game to walk 8-10 kilometers briskly, as i wrote. I know a lot of guys who are in need of a massage after a round

 

If they cannot play in a reasonable pace, maybe golf is not for them.

 

Reasonable is a matter of opinion though, and golf is a product. The people offering that product seem to have come to the thinking that 4-4:30 is reasonable

[trumb1mj1]

I’m guessing he’s also a slow player. You guys enjoy a nice, leisurely 4.5 hour round?

 

I'd much prefer to play in 3 1/2 hours every time, i've played walking foursomes in less than that quite often. But i am basically an adonis and my usual group is other able bodied sportsmen ....A lot of golfers are overweight slovenly messes, that's why they play golf instead of run spartan races. I don't think it's as easy to play in that time frame for everyone who plays the game to walk 8-10 kilometers briskly, as i wrote. I know a lot of guys who are in need of a massage after a round

 

If they cannot play in a reasonable pace, maybe golf is not for them.

 

Reasonable is a matter of opinion though, and golf is a product. The people offering that product seem to have come to the thinking that 4-4:30 is reasonable

 

I've thought for a while a course should cater to both types of golfers. If you're teeing off before 10a, it's a 3 golfer per group max and pace is locked in at 3:20. If you want to play more slowly, get the 10:08 so you can smoke cigars and complain about how golf is being ruined by "self-entitled speedsters".

[MtlJeff]

I’m guessing he’s also a slow player. You guys enjoy a nice, leisurely 4.5 hour round?

 

I'd much prefer to play in 3 1/2 hours every time, i've played walking foursomes in less than that quite often. But i am basically an adonis and my usual group is other able bodied sportsmen ....A lot of golfers are overweight slovenly messes, that's why they play golf instead of run spartan races. I don't think it's as easy to play in that time frame for everyone who plays the game to walk 8-10 kilometers briskly, as i wrote. I know a lot of guys who are in need of a massage after a round

 

If they cannot play in a reasonable pace, maybe golf is not for them.

 

Reasonable is a matter of opinion though, and golf is a product. The people offering that product seem to have come to the thinking that 4-4:30 is reasonable

 

I've thought for a while a course should cater to both types of golfers. If you're teeing off before 10a, it's a 3 golfer per group max and pace is locked in at 3:20. If you want to play more slowly, get the 10:08 so you can smoke cigars and complain about how golf is being ruined by "self-entitled speedsters".

 

I actually think that is a very good idea and would support that. It makes a lot of sense

[Steele47]

I’m guessing he’s also a slow player. You guys enjoy a nice, leisurely 4.5 hour round?

 

I'd much prefer to play in 3 1/2 hours every time, i've played walking foursomes in less than that quite often. But i am basically an adonis and my usual group is other able bodied sportsmen ....A lot of golfers are overweight slovenly messes, that's why they play golf instead of run spartan races. I don't think it's as easy to play in that time frame for everyone who plays the game to walk 8-10 kilometers briskly, as i wrote. I know a lot of guys who are in need of a massage after a round

 

He's an 'Adonis'. lol...

[platgof]

Please stop with the range finder.

 

I actually think range finders speed up play. No matter the skill level, people are going to want to know the yardage so it sure as heck beats walking off yards or fumbling with a cell phone for GPS info.

 

I would normally agree with you, but I saw a guy laser a point and then walk MAYBE 5-10 yards away and lasered again. That is excessive. You should be able to do that small of math in your head and be able to figure it out without having the use your range finder again.

I totally don't agree with that. I just played a course and we all suffered not having the distance because we all forgot our range finders. The course was not marked well at all, and we were just guessing, horrible.

[platgof]

Wow, a new Olympic sport, speed golf. Nah, no thanks. I hate slow rounds, but I also like to think out my shots and get into a rhythm as well. I do play better when the pace is moving well. Seeing a five some on the course does piss me off. I have also swung back and played extra holes as well, and I can think the golf cart for that.

[FourTops]

We joined a CC to get away from the riff-raff 5.5 to 6 hour rounds. It was either that or quit golf. We can now hit all the range balls we want on a grass range, jump in to play almost at-will, and rounds are 4 hours or less. Now a 4.5 round feels like "all day". It's so much more fun now.

[jli2636]

Please stop with the range finder.

 

I actually think range finders speed up play. No matter the skill level, people are going to want to know the yardage so it sure as heck beats walking off yards or fumbling with a cell phone for GPS info.

 

I would normally agree with you, but I saw a guy laser a point and then walk MAYBE 5-10 yards away and lasered again. That is excessive. You should be able to do that small of math in your head and be able to figure it out without having the use your range finder again.

I totally don't agree with that. I just played a course and we all suffered not having the distance because we all forgot our range finders. The course was not marked well at all, and we were just guessing, horrible.

 

Did you miss the part about him lasering a point and walking 5 yards to laser again? Unless you are a high level amateur or a professional, there is no need to laser twice within 5 yards. You didn’t have your rangefinder, that’s a completely different scenario....my issue wasn’t that he used his rangefinder. I’m all for distance measuring devices and use one myself. My issue is that he used it twice in a span of 5ish yards where the math wouldn’t be that difficult if you just counted your steps. And now that I think about it I think he walked directly right of his ball, didn’t got forward or backward.

[rsj1360]

Got paired up with three guys I didn't know again today. They were not very good. And, surprise, the course was full on a beautiful Saturday morning/afternoon. Finished in 4:15. Some waiting. Nothing crazy. Could have finished faster. Could have been slower. But why complain?

[Dooskie]

Unless the golf course sets the expectations for its customers and is willing to work at it, it will never get better. Courses develop reputations and the ones that take pace of play seriously will get more play. Sniff out those courses and you will enjoy quicker rounds.

[thug the bunny]

Got paired up with three guys I didn't know again today. They were not very good. And, surprise, the course was full on a beautiful Saturday morning/afternoon. Finished in 4:15. Some waiting. Nothing crazy. Could have finished faster. Could have been slower. But why complain?

 

Ummm, because this is WRX? So please complain and claim that it is killing the game.

[FourTops]

I’m guessing he’s also a slow player. You guys enjoy a nice, leisurely 4.5 hour round?

 

I'd much prefer to play in 3 1/2 hours every time, i've played walking foursomes in less than that quite often. But i am basically an adonis and my usual group is other able bodied sportsmen ....A lot of golfers are overweight slovenly messes, that's why they play golf instead of run spartan races. I don't think it's as easy to play in that time frame for everyone who plays the game to walk 8-10 kilometers briskly, as i wrote. I know a lot of guys who are in need of a massage after a round

 

He's an 'Adonis'. lol...

 

It's like TERMINATOR golf...lol.

[BNGL]

I just finished playing locals and expected pace of play was 4 hours 45 mins. Threesomes fair weather light breeze. Personally I was a little shocked that was accepted, started at 9 signed the cards at 252. Almost 6 hours. Now I'm the guy that defends slower play, and for the most part I'm ok with it as long as you're moving along playing the game. Take all the time you want, but you better stuff it lol. The second playing partners start talking about pace of play, I know they're on the way down the leaderboard.

[radiman]

I just finished playing locals and expected pace of play was 4 hours 45 mins. Threesomes fair weather light breeze. Personally I was a little shocked that was accepted, started at 9 signed the cards at 252. Almost 6 hours. Now I'm the guy that defends slower play, and for the most part I'm ok with it as long as you're moving along playing the game. Take all the time you want, but you better stuff it lol. The second playing partners start talking about pace of play, I know they're on the way down the leaderboard.

 

Even the Pros would be frustrated with a 6 hour round. That seems really extreme, even for a tournament round.

[BNGL]

I just finished playing locals and expected pace of play was 4 hours 45 mins. Threesomes fair weather light breeze. Personally I was a little shocked that was accepted, started at 9 signed the cards at 252. Almost 6 hours. Now I'm the guy that defends slower play, and for the most part I'm ok with it as long as you're moving along playing the game. Take all the time you want, but you better stuff it lol. The second playing partners start talking about pace of play, I know they're on the way down the leaderboard.

 

Even the Pros would be frustrated with a 6 hour round. That seems really extreme, even for a tournament round.

 

Yeah I am not sure. Some guys I know would despise it others aren't bothered at all by it. It depends on the person, not saying either way is best. Only thing I can do is be ready to play when's it's my go, and zone out when it ain't.

[rxk9fan]

Here is another probably unpopular solution:

If you want to take 4.5 hours or more to play a round, I have zero problem with that but you need to be allowing others to play through and maybe lot of others. I also have zero problem pulling into the middle of a group and asking first respectfully and if not well received telling them others are playing through!

[jah7838]

Yesterday, I played a round and it took 5 hours...that's way too long. It was because of the 2 foursomes in front of myself and a couple that I got paired with. They were really slow all day. They did have a group in front of them, so there wasn't anywhere to jump ahead to. At some point on the back 9, the first group disappeared to the clubhouse, and the pace picked up a bit, but there was still a bunch of waiting. The group that was in front of the first foursome was nowhere to be seen all day, so I can't blame them for the slow play.

 

Between 6 warm up swings for a pre-shot routine and their driving all over the place looking for lost balls, we were waiting on every teebox and every fairway. It was a pretty terrible round...great weather though.

 

I don't care if people are good or bad, but don't be slow. I get that everyone on the course paid money to be there, but be considerate of everyone else behind you. Nobody wants to be out there for 5-6 hours. 3.5-4 hours is fine pace for a round of golf...4.5 is pushing it, but if there is some sort of rhythm to the round, it's tolerable. 5 hours is way too long.

[trumb1mj1]

Yesterday, I played a round and it took 5 hours...that's way too long. It was because of the 2 foursomes in front of myself and a couple that I got paired with. They were really slow all day. They did have a group in front of them, so there wasn't anywhere to jump ahead to. At some point on the back 9, the first group disappeared to the clubhouse, and the pace picked up a bit, but there was still a bunch of waiting. The group that was in front of the first foursome was nowhere to be seen all day, so I can't blame them for the slow play.

 

Between 6 warm up swings for a pre-shot routine and their driving all over the place looking for lost balls, we were waiting on every teebox and every fairway. It was a pretty terrible round...great weather though.

 

I don't care if people are good or bad, but don't be slow. I get that everyone on the course paid money to be there, but be considerate of everyone else behind you. Nobody wants to be out there for 5-6 hours. 3.5-4 hours is fine pace for a round of golf...4.5 is pushing it, but if there is some sort of rhythm to the round, it's tolerable. 5 hours is way too long.

 

Have you ever complained about golfers playing too fast?

[jah7838]

Yesterday, I played a round and it took 5 hours...that's way too long. It was because of the 2 foursomes in front of myself and a couple that I got paired with. They were really slow all day. They did have a group in front of them, so there wasn't anywhere to jump ahead to. At some point on the back 9, the first group disappeared to the clubhouse, and the pace picked up a bit, but there was still a bunch of waiting. The group that was in front of the first foursome was nowhere to be seen all day, so I can't blame them for the slow play.

 

Between 6 warm up swings for a pre-shot routine and their driving all over the place looking for lost balls, we were waiting on every teebox and every fairway. It was a pretty terrible round...great weather though.

 

I don't care if people are good or bad, but don't be slow. I get that everyone on the course paid money to be there, but be considerate of everyone else behind you. Nobody wants to be out there for 5-6 hours. 3.5-4 hours is fine pace for a round of golf...4.5 is pushing it, but if there is some sort of rhythm to the round, it's tolerable. 5 hours is way too long.

 

Have you ever complained about golfers playing too fast?

 

Nope...never complained about that before. I'm all for ready golf...except when someone birdies or eagles a hole. They get the next box.

[Twism86]

The starter and marshals at "my" course, Rutgers University in NJ, are pretty strict. Pace of play is listed at 3:57 and when it gets busy they will run a tight ship. If a group is a hole behind they get no warning and are told to move up or get off. It has never taken me over 4.5 hours for a full round with groups ahead and behind. There are also no adult beverages allowed or drink carts so there isnt much to slow you down.

[ctmason_98]

The starter and marshals at "my" course, Rutgers University in NJ, are pretty strict. Pace of play is listed at 3:57 and when it gets busy they will run a tight ship. If a group is a hole behind they get no warning and are told to move up or get off. It has never taken me over 4.5 hours for a full round with groups ahead and behind. There are also no adult beverages allowed or drink carts so there isnt much to slow you down.

 

And the course has more than half a million in deferred maintenance on its budget and annually receives to $100-250k (averaging here) in University support (subsidy).

 

Not picking on you, my point is there’s a reason your course can do this and most others (believe they) can’t.

[FourTops]

Please stop with the range finder.

 

I actually think range finders speed up play. No matter the skill level, people are going to want to know the yardage so it sure as heck beats walking off yards or fumbling with a cell phone for GPS info.

 

I would normally agree with you, but I saw a guy laser a point and then walk MAYBE 5-10 yards away and lasered again. That is excessive. You should be able to do that small of math in your head and be able to figure it out without having the use your range finder again.

 

I played behind a group who lasered shots from 20 yards....and.....get this......LASERED THEIR PUTTS!

[BNGL]

Please stop with the range finder.

 

I actually think range finders speed up play. No matter the skill level, people are going to want to know the yardage so it sure as heck beats walking off yards or fumbling with a cell phone for GPS info.

 

I would normally agree with you, but I saw a guy laser a point and then walk MAYBE 5-10 yards away and lasered again. That is excessive. You should be able to do that small of math in your head and be able to figure it out without having the use your range finder again.

 

I played behind a group who lasered shots from 20 yards....and.....get this......LASERED THEIR PUTTS!

 

Lol we laser putts all the time in our group...play a game called umbrella and one of the points is a closest to the pin. If it's close we measure with a tape, but typically laser does just fine

[FourTops]

Please stop with the range finder.

 

I actually think range finders speed up play. No matter the skill level, people are going to want to know the yardage so it sure as heck beats walking off yards or fumbling with a cell phone for GPS info.

 

I would normally agree with you, but I saw a guy laser a point and then walk MAYBE 5-10 yards away and lasered again. That is excessive. You should be able to do that small of math in your head and be able to figure it out without having the use your range finder again.

 

I played behind a group who lasered shots from 20 yards....and.....get this......LASERED THEIR PUTTS!

 

Lol we laser putts all the time in our group...play a game called umbrella and one of the points is a closest to the pin. If it's close we measure with a tape, but typically laser does just fine

 

So YOU'RE THE GUYS! LOL!

[deadsolid...shank]

Please stop with the range finder.

 

I actually think range finders speed up play. No matter the skill level, people are going to want to know the yardage so it sure as heck beats walking off yards or fumbling with a cell phone for GPS info.

 

I would normally agree with you, but I saw a guy laser a point and then walk MAYBE 5-10 yards away and lasered again. That is excessive. You should be able to do that small of math in your head and be able to figure it out without having the use your range finder again.

 

I played behind a group who lasered shots from 20 yards....and.....get this......LASERED THEIR PUTTS!

 

Lol we laser putts all the time in our group...play a game called umbrella and one of the points is a closest to the pin. If it's close we measure with a tape, but typically laser does just fine

 

We play that game too. Never thought of using a laser to measure, we always just made use the flagstick. I'll have to remember that.

[ldchristopher]

I've found if I get the first time and grab a second time at between 12-2, I can walk 36 holes and have a great pace for the first round and a decent 4 hour 15 minute second round. I haven't booked a time between 9:00-10:00 in the summer in a long time. If people either can't wake up and play first thing or won't, I suggest waiting until twilight.