Maltby TS2

[Gdashoff]

Brit posted about ERP changes on RalphMaltby forums, unrelated to TS3s. He also said in one of those post the TS3s were due to arrive Jan 27th if everything went according to plan, then couple days to inventory and list. 

 

The new irons do look nice and stand out.

[Klubster]

Looks like the site is still a work in progress.  Multi views of iron heads missing, for example.

[ode]

Nothing we haven't already seen.  Looking forward to the detailed pics and specs on the ts3 after they are listed!

 

As for the new web page, meh it's ok!

[Spinozist]

TS3 pic from the USGA

[Popeye64]

1 minute ago, Spinozist said:

TS3 pic from the USGA

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I'm glad they're being approved because I want to use Them in competition this year.

[Spinozist]

37 minutes ago, Popeye64 said:

I'm glad they're being approved because I want to use Them in competition this year.

Nice! I'm having a tough time deciding between the TS3, 4, and IM-1. Tempted to maybe blend them, depending on lofts. They are all just beautiful, but also have their own "style". Of course the 3s will almost certainly be the most forgiving.

[DB Golf]

I think this question has been asked a couple of times in this thread but not answered—perhaps because nobody outside of GolfWorks has tested all of them. The question is how to rank the TS family in order of discernible playability.

 

Three of the five have their MPFs listed online. From highest to lowest:

TS3 (786)

TS2 (727)

TS1 (711)

 

Does this mean the TS3 will be easier to play than the TS2?
 

Can the question be answered based on MPFs within 100 points of each other?

 

Does the answer depend on the player? The swing? The course conditions?

[Popeye64]

5 hours ago, DB Golf said:

I think this question has been asked a couple of times in this thread but not answered—perhaps because nobody outside of GolfWorks has tested all of them. The question is how to rank the TS family in order of discernible playability.

 

Three of the five have their MPFs listed online. From highest to lowest:

TS3 (786)

TS2 (727)

TS1 (711)

 

Does this mean the TS3 will be easier to play than the TS2?
 

Can the question be answered based on MPFs within 100 points of each other?

 

Does the answer depend on the player? The swing? The course conditions?

Technically yes it should play easier. But you are splitting hairs. The big things these days is how friendly is the sole. Take a look at the sole of the TS4. It's flat. The TS3 has a generous rocker toe to sole. That will make it play markedly easier. The TS4 for the general hacker will eat turf all day long. Where the TS3 will get through fairly well.

So back to the TS2. That sole and the sole of the TS3 is os very similar. 

Edited January 29, 2023 by Popeye64

[gdb99]

19 minutes ago, DB Golf said:

I think this question has been asked a couple of times in this thread but not answered—perhaps because nobody outside of GolfWorks has tested all of them. The question is how to rank the TS family in order of discernible playability.

 

Three of the five have their MPFs listed online. From highest to lowest:

TS3 (786)

TS2 (727)

TS1 (711)

 

Does this mean the TS3 will be easier to play than the TS2?
 

Can the question be answered based on MPFs within 100 points of each other?

 

Does the answer depend on the player? The swing? The course conditions?

Britt from Golfworks has said in the past that it’s tough to discern a club’s forgiveness if there is less than 100 points between them. 
You need to look at the clubs other dimensions to see what would fit you best. 
C dimension, Vertical center of gravity, etc.

 

https://www.golfworks.com/maltby-playability-factor-your-best-fitting-tool/

 

[DB Golf]

38 minutes ago, gdb99 said:

You need to look at the clubs other dimensions to see what would fit you best.

Or just buy a TS3 head when it comes out, build a comparable club, and test it against my TS2. No disrespect to Mr. Maltby, but this method is more fun. 

[naj959]

TS3 looking awfully sexy😍. Digging the IMs as well but I already have a goo filled set. 

[Spinozist]

5 hours ago, Popeye64 said:

Technically yes it should play easier. But you are splitting hairs. The big things these days is how friendly is the sole. Take a look at the sole of the TS4. It's flat. The TS3 has a genetic rocker toe to sole. That will make it play markedly easier. The TS4 for the general hacker will eat turf all day long. Where the TS3 will get through fairly well.

So back to the TS2. That sole and the sole of the TS3 is os very similar. 

Yes sole is super key. Here are some pics of the soles(n.b. the TS1-IM photo is obv bigger; shrunk to equal size would be better)

 

Edited January 29, 2023 by Spinozist

[Therty]

The TS-2 sole is so so good, I love my TS-1 but I can’t wait for a set of TS3

[DB Golf]

12 hours ago, Spinozist said:

Yes sole is super key.

Grateful for the help. It’s sounding like the soles of the TS2 and TS3 are pretty close. If so, I wonder what the functional differences are between the two. Can’t wait to test them out. 

[Cwebb]

21 hours ago, Popeye64 said:

Technically yes it should play easier. But you are splitting hairs. The big things these days is how friendly is the sole. Take a look at the sole of the TS4. It's flat. The TS3 has a generous rocker toe to sole. That will make it play markedly easier. The TS4 for the general hacker will eat turf all day long. Where the TS3 will get through fairly well.

So back to the TS2. That sole and the sole of the TS3 is os very similar. 

 

How do we know that the TS4 sole is flat from that photo?  The only difference I can pickup from that pic comparison is that the TS3 is slightly wider

[Spinozist]

2 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

How do we know that the TS4 sole is flat from that photo?  The only difference I can pickup from that pic comparison is that the TS3 is slightly wider

I don't think you can really tell that much per se because of the lighting, but if you were to compare the OG TS1 sole with, say, the STi2 sole, you'd see a difference that is more than just width, although of course width does count for a lot wrt turf interaction. Ultimately I agree with DB Golf that the best thing to do is build out 2 or 3 clubs with the various heads and test them out. Worst case scenario you can always sell the one(s) you don't like on ebay and get at least half your money back. To me as a hobbyist it's worth the price of entry.

Edited January 29, 2023 by Spinozist

[Popeye64]

2 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

How do we know that the TS4 sole is flat from that photo?  The only difference I can pickup from that pic comparison is that the TS3 is slightly wider

I cant find it now but I've seen some side by side photos of the 3 and 4. The 4 looked really flat. Reminded me of the MMB-17

[Therty]

From Britt: “The TS4 sole will be very slightly wider than the MMB and have more front to back radius. ”

[Cwebb]

1 hour ago, Therty said:

From Britt: “The TS4 sole will be very slightly wider than the MMB and have more front to back radius. ”

 

Yup.  I thought I had heard that, in his early chatter about the design

[5 O'Clock Charlie]

I like the new stuff, it looks pretty slick. I've actually been swapping between some DBM's that I just built about a month ago and another set I play from another direct to consumer company. What I find interesting is that as a high spin player, I tend to back irons up, no matter the brand. But with the DBM's, I have been getting them to land then hop and stop a tad forward which I prefer, even with the wedges.

Maltby really is killing it with their designs. I added the KE4 Tour TC 4 wood with a Pro Launch Red and am probably going to add the driver as well.

[Therty]

1 hour ago, Cwebb said:

 

Yup.  I thought I had heard that, in his early chatter about the design

Ts-1 IM should be slightly wider sole than TS-1, i expect TS-4 will be quite similar to the TS-1 sole, which is excellent.

[Cwebb]

1 hour ago, Therty said:

Ts-1 IM should be slightly wider sole than TS-1, i expect TS-4 will be quite similar to the TS-1 sole, which is excellent.

 

It's looking and sounding like the the '4' will essentially be just like the '1', without the extra thin face.

[mgoblue83]

Any idea when the new heads will be released for sale?

 

I keep checking everyday...

[ChaosTheory]

14 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

It's looking and sounding like the the '4' will essentially be just like the '1', without the extra thin face.

 

That is what I think too.  TS3 target would be the TS2 player who wants a solid head.  And TS4 for TS1 player. 

I play the TS2's and sometimes the original STi's.  I get more juice out of the hotter TS2 and I can use it, so I'm not as hyped about the TS3 as I once was.

 

 

[Spinozist]

23 hours ago, Snowman9000 said:

 

That is what I think too.  TS3 target would be the TS2 player who wants a solid head.  And TS4 for TS1 player. 

I play the TS2's and sometimes the original STi's.  I get more juice out of the hotter TS2 and I can use it, so I'm not as hyped about the TS3 as I once was.

 

 

I think the TS1-IM face will be hotter than the OG TS1s, as they're made of maraging steel as opposed to the forged carbon of the OGs. I think taylormade has also gone with maraging steel on their newest 790s.

[Popeye64]

Based on this photo that 4 is really flat. Not much rocker to that at all. 

[Cwebb]

14 hours ago, Popeye64 said:

Based on this photo that 4 is really flat. Not much rocker to that at all. 

 

I'm still not seeing "flat", compared to the TS-3 right next to it.  Not sure what your eye is picking up there.

 

As long as it has more front to back radius and effective bounce than the MMB, it will be an improvement

[Colej]

1 hour ago, Cwebb said:

 

I'm still not seeing "flat", compared to the TS-3 right next to it.  Not sure what your eye is picking up there.

 

As long as it has more front to back radius and effective bounce than the MMB, it will be an improvement

I can see what @Popeye64is saying. 

[Cwebb]

46 minutes ago, Colej said:

I can see what @Popeye64is saying. 

 

What exactly are you seeing?

[Colej]

14 minutes ago, Cwebb said:

 

What exactly are you seeing?

I’ll highlight what the sole contour looks like to me.