The 2018 Ryder Cup at Le Golf National (MERGED)

[mukster]

Finally got a peek at the pairings for tomorrow . This thing is going to come right down to the wire. Here’s hoping the Euros don’t drink too much beer tonight, as this is very far from over.

[bladehunter]

Where is Europe going to get their "definite" 4.5 points? :lol:

 

1. Molinari def Mickelson

2. Hatton def. Reed

3. Stenson def. Watson

4. Noren def. DeChambeau

5. Fleetwood A/S Finau

 

We shall see. I’d take exception with Hatton beating anything but himself personally. And win or lose I just have the feeling phil shows up tommorow. FM is good. But he isn’t god. One too many o’s.

[iBanesto]

Where is Europe going to get their "definite" 4.5 points? :lol:

 

1. Molinari def Mickelson

2. Hatton def. Reed

3. Stenson def. Watson

4. Noren def. DeChambeau

5. Fleetwood A/S Finau

 

I think you can add Rose def. Simpson to that list.

 

True. Lets see if Simpson's putting can hold up.

[iBanesto]

Where is Europe going to get their "definite" 4.5 points? :lol:

 

1. Molinari def Mickelson

2. Hatton def. Reed

3. Stenson def. Watson

4. Noren def. DeChambeau

5. Fleetwood A/S Finau

 

We shall see. I'd take exception with Hatton beating anything but himself personally. And win or lose I just have the feeling phil shows up tommorow. FM is good. But he isn't god. One too many o's.

 

Hatton has grit and fight in him. It should be an interesting match with Reed.

 

Molinari is a Le National specialist and Phil is just too wild for the course.

[gatorpedsMD]

if we win tom I'm doing a full body wax in honor of the major upset!

[OrangeGravy]

It will not be that easy for Europe to win The Ryder Cup . I know 4 1/2 points does not seem a lot but when it comes to singles this is when USA come into their own .

On another a subject I wonder if this could be the last Ryder Cup with any English players in it if Brexit goes through and England is not part of Europe anymore ?

 

I'd be shocked if Brexit filtered down that far or maybe I wouldn't

[gatorpedsMD]

It will not be that easy for Europe to win The Ryder Cup . I know 4 1/2 points does not seem a lot but when it comes to singles this is when USA come into their own .

On another a subject I wonder if this could be the last Ryder Cup with any English players in it if Brexit goes through and England is not part of Europe anymore ?

 

I'd be shocked if Brexit filtered down that far or maybe I wouldn't

 

that would be great....

[bladehunter]

if we win tom I'm doing a full body wax in honor of the major upset!

 

as long as you dont post pics without warnings , knock youreself out ! lol

[gatorpedsMD]

come on penn state

 

if we win tom I'm doing a full body wax in honor of the major upset!

 

as long as you dont post pics without warnings , knock youreself out ! lol

 

only going to send private message pic to lowheel

[Lodestone]

What amuses me is how, on the US side of the pond, whenever the US gets thrashed, the immediate mindset seems to be that there is a problem with:

A) The Captain

B) The system by which the US picks it's team

C) The way the PGA sets up it's courses

D) Team chemistry sucks

 

It never seems to occur to anybody in the USA that these Europeans are really good golfers, and their team is comprised of top golfers from an entire continent and the UK, and they play a lot of golf in these countries, and have excellent programs to develop golfers.

Why is everyone so shocked? It's been going on for 30 years.

[lowheel]

I agree that Tiger hasn't played well enough, but I don't act upset.

 

Sure bud... keep going down this path if you think it makes you look good. Youre a tiger is GOAT guy in every thread, youre incapable of being critical of him. "hasnt played well enough"... give me a break, hes been terrible.If he was 3-0 and playing lights out for once id be in here praising him. You cant have it both ways. Just because you pretend doesnt mean i do..

[redfirebird08]

Where is Europe going to get their "definite" 4.5 points? :lol:

 

1. Molinari def Mickelson

2. Hatton def. Reed

3. Stenson def. Watson

4. Noren def. DeChambeau

5. Fleetwood A/S Finau

Hatton will not beat Reed. And yes I've been watching all 3 days

 

Patrick will need to flip a magic switch and stop driving it 40 yards offline. Lol smh

[duffer987]

It will not be that easy for Europe to win The Ryder Cup . I know 4 1/2 points does not seem a lot but when it comes to singles this is when USA come into their own .

On another a subject I wonder if this could be the last Ryder Cup with any English players in it if Brexit goes through and England is not part of Europe anymore ?

 

I'd be shocked if Brexit filtered down that far or maybe I wouldn't

 

that would be great....

LOL! It's still Europe. They're not carving out a new continent ;)

[bladehunter]

come on penn state

 

if we win tom I'm doing a full body wax in honor of the major upset!

 

as long as you dont post pics without warnings , knock youreself out ! lol

 

only going to send private message pic to lowheel

 

lol now thats funny! ( sorry Lowheel) Ill not be opening any PMs if we win, just to be safe !

[TaylorGreen]

The only thing to make this event exciting in blowouts...automatic presses when two down and one "air press" per 9 holes....

[duffer987]

What amuses me is how, on the US side of the pond, whenever the US gets thrashed, the immediate mindset seems to be that there is a problem with:

A) The Captain

B) The system by which the US picks it's team

C) The way the PGA sets up it's courses

D) Team chemistry sucks

 

It never seems to occur to anybody in the USA that these Europeans are really good golfers, and their team is comprised of top golfers from an entire continent and the UK, and they play a lot of golf in these countries, and have excellent programs to develop golfers.

Why is everyone so shocked? It's been going on for 30 years.

Indeed. Especially when self-professed Ryder Cup aficionados are saying Fleetwood and Molinari won't be up for it and that crap putting from Molinari, Stenson, Garcia and others will cost them and that apparently Euro 'rookies' will suffer while US ones won't, smh

It's not the 80s/90s (or even earlier) of David Gilford and Phillip Walton, everyone is a known quantity.

[bladehunter]

What amuses me is how, on the US side of the pond, whenever the US gets thrashed, the immediate mindset seems to be that there is a problem with:

A) The Captain

B) The system by which the US picks it's team

C) The way the PGA sets up it's courses

D) Team chemistry sucks

 

It never seems to occur to anybody in the USA that these Europeans are really good golfers, and their team is comprised of top golfers from an entire continent and the UK, and they play a lot of golf in these countries, and have excellent programs to develop golfers.

Why is everyone so shocked? Its been happening Since all of Europe was allowed to compete .

 

 

small correction made ^

 

 

sure they are good ... But they arent better as some would say . personally think having the tour championship right on top of the Ryder cup helps the Euro team some... Notice how Spieth is playing well .. hes rested ...didnt make east lake.. Very poor scheduling not to have a week off before in my opinion .. Another example of $ over common sense

[OrangeGravy]

What amuses me is how, on the US side of the pond, whenever the US gets thrashed, the immediate mindset seems to be that there is a problem with:

A) The Captain

B) The system by which the US picks it's team

C) The way the PGA sets up it's courses

D) Team chemistry sucks

 

It never seems to occur to anybody in the USA that these Europeans are really good golfers, and their team is comprised of top golfers from an entire continent and the UK, and they play a lot of golf in these countries, and have excellent programs to develop golfers.

Why is everyone so shocked? It's been going on for 30 years.

 

I'm certainly not. It's kind of what's expected. I think most of that stuff stems from people feeling like the US under performs so badly in this, not that they lose so much. If they played well and lost I don't think it would cause as much consternation. That and I think people get caught up in the rankings and expect to translate 1-1 if everyone plays reasonably close to their potential. Of course those rankings don't mean much when it's go time and those rankings are related to stroke play tournaments not this format.

[ebrasmus21]

Does anyone else think YJS should have sucked it up and played with Cap America? [for the good of the team]

 

Seriously. Does anyone think this?

[OrangeGravy]

The only thing to make this event exciting in blowouts...automatic presses when two down and one "air press" per 9 holes....

 

That would be funny. They should open it to a money game. I'd love to see them playing a side skins type game with their own money!

[tatertot]

Does anyone else think YJS should have sucked it up and played with Cap America? [for the good of the team]

 

Seriously. Does anyone think this?

 

I missed it and am lazy ... Could somebody link me what their spat is?

[iBanesto]

Europe has to start well with the McIlroy leading the way.

 

If Europe start losing their first few matches, then it is danger time.

 

Hard to not pick Thomas over McIlroy though.

 

[tatertot]

What amuses me is how, on the US side of the pond, whenever the US gets thrashed, the immediate mindset seems to be that there is a problem with:

A) The Captain

B) The system by which the US picks it's team

C) The way the PGA sets up it's courses

D) Team chemistry sucks

 

It never seems to occur to anybody in the USA that these Europeans are really good golfers, and their team is comprised of top golfers from an entire continent and the UK, and they play a lot of golf in these countries, and have excellent programs to develop golfers.

Why is everyone so shocked? Its been happening Since all of Europe was allowed to compete .

 

 

small correction made ^

 

 

sure they are good ... But they arent better as some would say . personally think having the tour championship right on top of the Ryder cup helps the Euro team some... Notice how Spieth is playing well .. hes rested ...didnt make east lake.. Very poor scheduling not to have a week off before in my opinion .. Another example of $ over common sense

 

The list of excuses is shocking ... How about the Euros are playing better golf, and leave it at that?

[OrangeGravy]

Does anyone else think YJS should have sucked it up and played with Cap America? [for the good of the team]

 

Seriously. Does anyone think this?

 

yes if that truly was the plan and Jordan or Justin lobbied to change it. That's the tough thing about this Golf. Most of these guys don't grow having to do what a coach thinks is the best for the team to the degree that other sports demand. I'd like to think everyone comes to the captain after the team is picked and says "I'm ready to do whatever you need" and not "I'm ready to do whatever you need and except play with so and so". I'm sure some say it, but not sure they all mean it

[bladehunter]

Does anyone else think YJS should have sucked it up and played with Cap America? [for the good of the team]

 

Seriously. Does anyone think this?

 

dont think it would matter.. I think Spieth helped JT get going and they worked well together.. won same matches that Spieth / Reed would have been in ... Jt may have gone out with someone like tiger and felt no energy and stunk it up..he started slow on friday ... Spieth is the common good denominator here in my book . Even if Reed has carried him in some matches before

[dwboston]

Does anyone else think YJS should have sucked it up and played with Cap America? [for the good of the team]

 

Seriously. Does anyone think this?

 

yes if that truly was the plan and Jordan or Justin lobbied to change it. That's the tough thing about this Golf. Most of these guys don't grow having to do what a coach thinks is the best for the team to the degree that other sports demand. I'd like to think everyone comes to the captain after the team is picked and says "I'm ready to do whatever you need" and not "I'm ready to do whatever you need and except play with so and so". I'm sure some say it, but not sure they all mean it

 

Spieth wasn't going to be any more successful than Tiger at dragging Reed's corpse around this weekend.

[irvtrain]

Anyone else lost a lot of sleep this weekend? Tomorrow is perfect though. Wake up at 4am MTS and Ryder Cup is over as NFL is starting. Then hopefully wife lets me go to sleep at 6 or 7pm lol.

[redfirebird08]

Does anyone else think YJS should have sucked it up and played with Cap America? [for the good of the team]

 

Seriously. Does anyone think this?

 

dont think it would matter.. I think Spieth helped JT get going and they worked well together.. won same matches that Spieth / Reed would have been in ... Jt may have gone out with someone like tiger and felt no energy and stunk it up..he started slow on friday ... Spieth is the common good denominator here in my book . Even if Reed has carried him in some matches before

 

Thomas would have been with Fowler. The Reed/Spieth divorce is more about the ripple effect in my opinion. JT/Fowler seemed like a strong pair at the Presidents Cup. We know DJ/Koepka were a strong pair. So once they broke up Koepka/DJ to give DJ to Fowler, now you've busted up 3 good teams.

 

I tend to think the ballstriking is the ballstriking (it mostly sucks this week for the American team), but you never know with the putting. That might have gone a different way for these guys if they were in the expected groups instead of Furyk's switch-a-roo.

[duffer987]

So how many American players are yet to see 16-18 in competition?

Think it was only the first session Friday that got to 18 with those couple close US wins. Pretty much everything has been &2 or more.

[bladehunter]

What amuses me is how, on the US side of the pond, whenever the US gets thrashed, the immediate mindset seems to be that there is a problem with:

A) The Captain

B) The system by which the US picks it's team

C) The way the PGA sets up it's courses

D) Team chemistry sucks

 

It never seems to occur to anybody in the USA that these Europeans are really good golfers, and their team is comprised of top golfers from an entire continent and the UK, and they play a lot of golf in these countries, and have excellent programs to develop golfers.

Why is everyone so shocked? Its been happening Since all of Europe was allowed to compete .

 

 

small correction made ^

 

 

sure they are good ... But they arent better as some would say . personally think having the tour championship right on top of the Ryder cup helps the Euro team some... Notice how Spieth is playing well .. hes rested ...didnt make east lake.. Very poor scheduling not to have a week off before in my opinion .. Another example of $ over common sense

 

The list of excuses is shocking ... How about the Euros are playing better golf, and leave it at that?

 

Pet peeve of mine is when people cite reasons as excuses... we would like to know "why".... they dont just show up one day and play bad or good ...always reasons for both..an none are excuses.

 

The majority if the US team played east lake ... i count 6 ( thanks for the help ) Europeans who did ( i could have missed some) ...having rest vs playing 3 weeks straight and a trans atlantic flight is a reason , not an excuse . Like orange gravy said ..if they played well and lose..no problem.. But your guys arent curb stomping anyones A game.. i see all Cs and some Ds out there ....im just hypothesizing , why ?