New TM p790 irons ???

[Wardman]

> @GoGoErky said:

> > @Wardman said:

> > > @KMeloney said:

> > > > @Wardman said:

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> > > > Not able to find a full bag fitter in the Philly area.

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> > > Huh? Go to Club Champion at 76 & City Ave.

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> > They have a stock 6i head, nothing else. Hoping a course in Scottsdale has a rental set.

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> Most places that do full bag fittings don’t have anything more than a single iron head. Full bag fittings aren’t literally a 14 club fitting. It’s irons based on a demo iron head, wedges, hybrids, fw and driver and sometimes a putter.

 

Correct, and when 7-3 are speed slot and the 8-A are not that poses a problem.

[GoGoErky]

> @Wardman said:

> > @GoGoErky said:

> > > @Wardman said:

> > > > @KMeloney said:

> > > > > @Wardman said:

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> > > > > Not able to find a full bag fitter in the Philly area.

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> > > > Huh? Go to Club Champion at 76 & City Ave.

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> > > They have a stock 6i head, nothing else. Hoping a course in Scottsdale has a rental set.

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> > Most places that do full bag fittings don’t have anything more than a single iron head. Full bag fittings aren’t literally a 14 club fitting. It’s irons based on a demo iron head, wedges, hybrids, fw and driver and sometimes a putter.

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> Correct, and when 7-3 are speed slot and the 8-A are not that poses a problem.

 

That’s what the fitter is for to get lofts, lie, etc set during the fitting based on the demo head. The number of people that will have gap issues is small and more than likely that’s going to be build issue. The fitter should be able to tell if anything needs tweaking on the order

[Wardman]

> @GoGoErky said:

> > @Wardman said:

> > > @GoGoErky said:

> > > > @Wardman said:

> > > > > @KMeloney said:

> > > > > > @Wardman said:

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> > > > > > Not able to find a full bag fitter in the Philly area.

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> > > > > Huh? Go to Club Champion at 76 & City Ave.

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> > > > They have a stock 6i head, nothing else. Hoping a course in Scottsdale has a rental set.

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> > > Most places that do full bag fittings don’t have anything more than a single iron head. Full bag fittings aren’t literally a 14 club fitting. It’s irons based on a demo iron head, wedges, hybrids, fw and driver and sometimes a putter.

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> > Correct, and when 7-3 are speed slot and the 8-A are not that poses a problem.

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> That’s what the fitter is for to get lofts, lie, etc set during the fitting based on the demo head. The number of people that will have gap issues is small and more than likely that’s going to be build issue. The fitter should be able to tell if anything needs tweaking on the order

 

Yep - but still working them to bring in some additional irons. Think I have that figured out now. Both fitters agreed it is a challenge (GT and CC).

[herbert7890]

should this thread (along with all other already released products) be moved to the EQUIPMENT FORUM? Just saying this based on the fact, that for some reason ONLY the Mizuno threads were moved, but I see no moving for the major brands to the Equipment forum.

[fredstar]

> @dpb5031 said:

> Would love to hear more feedback from low HCs playing the new 790s now that they've been out for a while?

 

I got fitted for them after being a Ping i200 user. Despite the positive fitting, after about 10 rounds I am over them. I hit them all over the planet. Hit a few great shot but a bunch of junk in between and they don't have that buttery feel when you middle them. So I just bought some Apex Pro Combo and using them tomorrow for first time.

*hcp 3-5

[dpb5031]

> @fredstar said:

> > @dpb5031 said:

> > Would love to hear more feedback from low HCs playing the new 790s now that they've been out for a while?

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> I got fitted for them after being a Ping i200 user. Despite the positive fitting, after about 10 rounds I am over them. I hit them all over the planet. Hit a few great shot but a bunch of junk in between and they don't have that buttery feel when you middle them. So I just bought some Apex Pro Combo and using them tomorrow for first time.

> *hcp 3-5

 

What do you attribute to your lack of accuracy? I understand your statement about feel, as that's fully subjective, but I'm curious why you'd hit them "all over the planet" relative to your i200s? Different shafts?

[fredstar]

> @dpb5031 said:

> > @fredstar said:

> > > @dpb5031 said:

> > > Would love to hear more feedback from low HCs playing the new 790s now that they've been out for a while?

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> > I got fitted for them after being a Ping i200 user. Despite the positive fitting, after about 10 rounds I am over them. I hit them all over the planet. Hit a few great shot but a bunch of junk in between and they don't have that buttery feel when you middle them. So I just bought some Apex Pro Combo and using them tomorrow for first time.

> > *hcp 3-5

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> What do you attribute to your lack of accuracy? I understand your statement about feel, as that's fully subjective, but I'm curious why you'd hit them "all over the planet" relative to your i200s? Different shafts?

 

Played the Apex today and loved them. Stock shaft. 2* up. Maybe just my eye or something about the shaft (KBS Tour 90) in the P790, but getting fit and purchasing through Cool Clubs felt like a waste of money when I hit off the rack i200 and Apex pro combo better.

[Bebsport678]

Hit these again for the second time at the PGA superstore and although I’m not in love with the feel, the numbers look fantastic...hard ponder for me

[TheMoneyShot]

> @Bebsport678 said:

> Hit these again for the second time at the PGA superstore and although I’m not in love with the feel, the numbers look fantastic...hard ponder for me

 

Sounds like it is time to buy?

[mrmikeac]

Ok I’ll be that guy...

 

I really wanted to love these, as it seems that more and more lower HC’s are using them but I just can’t hop on the bandwagon. Topline and sole are way too thick with barely any trailing or leading edge relief, offset isn’t too bad surprisingly, much better than the 2017 790‘s but the feel is just so empty for me, feels like an aluminum baseball bat, sorry but there’s a big difference between a soft, solid feel and a soft, clicky feel. These just don’t feel forged to me, feedback is absolutely terrible with these as well, can’t tell where you’re hitting on the face half the time.

Putting it on GC Quad and the data was just...wow, 190 carry with the 7 iron, but with 4800 spin and absolutely awful descent angles, moving up to the 8 iron, 155 carry with 5200 spin and almost identical decent angles...that gap was enough right there to steer me away but I decided to move into the 5 iron, 205 carry, 3400 spin.... how can anyone play these in an actual gaming situation? Sorry but there are so many other great options out there with better levels of consistency.

(P760’s-$$$)

(Srixon Z Series)

(Mizuno JPX 919 Forged) Literally neck and neck forgiveness wise but with more consistency

Even the new Cobra Forged Tec’s gave me way more consistent yardages throughout the whole set.

 

And before anybody decides to pitchfork me please note this is really just my opinion, of you can make these work as a full set without having to worry about gapping and consistency then more power to ya!

 

[FairwaysToHeaven]

low spin and lowish descent angle can be improved by changing to a shaft that fits your swing and increases spin and launch along with playing the lofts a degree weak. you'll get the benefits of forgiveness, ball speed, and closer to ideal numbers to perform on course

[mrmikeac]

> @HoosierMizuno said:

> low spin and lowish descent angle can be improved by changing to a shaft that fits your swing and increases spin and launch along with playing the lofts a degree weak. you'll get the benefits of forgiveness, ball speed, and closer to ideal numbers to perform on course

 

Tried 5 different shafts with the 790’s:

PX LZ

DG 105’s (Stock)

Modus 120’s (My go to)

KBS $ Taper Lite

KBS $ Taper

 

All of these had little to no effect in spin, 300-600 rpm increase at the most.

 

Correct, I could have the lofts weakened but weakening them by 1 degree would give me a very minimal increase in spin and weakening the lofts any more than 1 degree would raise the leading edge bounce and create inconsistent turf interaction.

 

Just really not a fan of these at address, way too chunky and just a tad bit too much offset, nothing I couldn’t look past but too many red flags in performance to even think about taking these out to a course. Great on the range though!

[PINSEEKER72]

Mark Crossfield did a review on these, and he seemed to like their performance.....and that’s saying something because he hasn’t been a big fan of Taylor Made lately. He thought that the spin looked low with the dry ball data in the studio, but he was consistently hitting the distances that he wanted out on the course.

[mrmikeac]

> @PINSEEKER72 said:

> Mark Crossfield did a review on these, and he seemed to like their performance.....and that’s saying something because he hasn’t been a big fan of Taylor Made lately. He thought that the spin looked low with the dry ball data in the studio, but he was consistently hitting the distances that he wanted out on the course.

 

Crossfield did a review on the 2017 model, the review was made prior to TaylorMade dropping him off the club testing list.

 

Trust me, I’m speaking on behalf of myself on this subject, not anyone else and especially not Crossfield, he can make a 15 degree hybrid stop on a green from 60 yards out.

All I’m trying to say is distance isn’t everything, especially when it comes to irons and unfortunately, too many amateurs chase distance and launch monitor data but then can’t convert it onto a course.

 

Sorry if I offended anyone on here, not my intention at all, just giving my honest input, that’s all.

[PINSEEKER72]

> @mrmikeac said:

> > @PINSEEKER72 said:

> > Mark Crossfield did a review on these, and he seemed to like their performance.....and that’s saying something because he hasn’t been a big fan of Taylor Made lately. He thought that the spin looked low with the dry ball data in the studio, but he was consistently hitting the distances that he wanted out on the course.

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> Crossfield did a review on the 2017 model, the review was made prior to TaylorMade dropping him off the club testing list.

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> Trust me, I’m speaking on behalf of myself on this subject, not anyone else and especially not Crossfield, he can make a 15 degree hybrid stop on a green from 60 yards out.

> All I’m trying to say is distance isn’t everything, especially when it comes to irons and unfortunately, too many amateurs chase distance and launch monitor data but then can’t convert it onto a course.

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> Sorry if I offended anyone on here, not my intention at all, just giving my honest input, that’s all.

 

No offense taken at all. I actually have never owned a Taylor Made product and I still don't have any because I didn't like the way that they churned and burned through new releases and the value of their equipment dropped so quickly, but these irons have me intrigued. (There are other companies now using that same business model). I like a clean club with no bling and some forgiveness so I'm going to give them a try. You are correct, his review was on the 2017 model, but my post was simply to show that results can be different out on the course compared to inside on a TrackMan.

[English13]

I have the new P790's and flat out they are the best irons I have owned, long easy to work and stop well..... I have gone with the Smacwrap Recoils, getting old, and I am playing better than ever.....I had the originals then typical Golf WRX style I tried a bunch of other irons, its like a lot of things these days there are very few bad irons, because if there were they just would not sell.......

[Wardman]

Anyone have a pic of their well used P790 after a few rounds (50+).

[peterrod]

> @Wardman said:

> Anyone have a pic of their well used P790 after a few rounds (50+).

 

20 rounds with the New P790 since i got them on labor day weekend. Minor marks on the 9 iron.

Black paint on the Gap wedge(A) faded in three weeks

Overall the clubs still look good. I just got the 4 iron 2 weeks ago.

 

 

 

[PINSEEKER72]

That’s a little disappointing that the black paint is already out of the approach where to after just 20 rounds. I wonder if you sent a pic to TaylorMade and let them know about the issue if they would send you a little bottle of paint filled to take care of it?

[ChuckD724]

I spent the better part of 2 days (about an hour) each day hitting these in a simulator. I played these against the Apex Pros and the numbers, consistency, and launch angle were all on about 19 degrees with the P790, but closer to 21 degrees with the Apex Pros. Ultimately, I settled on the S300 DG shaft as it gave me the weight I was looking for. I thought the feedback on mis-hits was pretty solid in the simulator. I haven’t hit these outside quite yet, but I am looking forward to getting them and doing so. I feel like it will be a great upgrade from my CF16’s.

[cardoustie]

Mine on order, can't wait, did a fitting thread

Building off a swingweight of D7 in the seven iron

[BIG STU]

> @cardoustie said:

> Mine on order, can't wait, did a fitting thread

> Building off a swingweight of D7 in the seven iron

 

I knew somehow you had ordered a set when I saw you had posted.

[ChuckD724]

> @cardoustie said:

> Mine on order, can't wait, did a fitting thread

> Building off a swingweight of D7 in the seven iron

 

Forgot to mention I might be getting them bent slightly. They’re going to stick me back on the sim when they come in.

 

Let me know how you hit them. What shaft did you get?

 

 

[cardoustie]

Recoil 110

1" long, 1 flat, 1 strong

[Wardman]

> @peterrod said:

> > @Wardman said:

> > Anyone have a pic of their well used P790 after a few rounds (50+).

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> 20 rounds with the New P790 since i got them on labor day weekend. Minor marks on the 9 iron.

> Black paint on the Gap wedge(A) faded in three weeks

> Overall the clubs still look good. I just got the 4 iron 2 weeks ago.

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Thank you!!! Agree, TM may send you paint if you wanted. Hitting at CC with the DG 105'd Monday. Comparing to i310 at this point

[chisag]

... I started losing paint fill on my P790's and so I just removed it all and think it actually looks cleaner:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TheMoneyShot]

> @chisag said:

> ... I started losing paint fill on my P790's and so I just removed it all and think it actually looks cleaner:

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Looks stealth!

 

[ChuckD724]

> @chisag said:

> ... I started losing paint fill on my P790's and so I just removed it all and think it actually looks cleaner:

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Looks sharp - I might actually get some different color fill in there to see what it looks like when I get them.

[peterrod]

> @PINSEEKER72 said:

> That’s a little disappointing that the black paint is already out of the approach where to after just 20 rounds. I wonder if you sent a pic to TaylorMade and let them know about the issue if they would send you a little bottle of paint filled to take care of it?

 

paint is not a big issue for me.

The positive of the clubs helping my game out weight pain.

My long iron game has changed for the better. Its probably a combo of the speed slot and the modus 120 shaft.

Also playing a tour golf ball pro v1 srixon q-star helps adding more spin.

I realize playing distance golf balls was a bad idea.

 

[Marco Colo]

> @cardoustie said:

> Recoil 110

> 1" long, 1 flat, 1 strong

 

What happened to the blueprints, saw 919 in your WITB signature