New TM p790 irons ???

[mrmikeac]

So I went in to my local shop (Carl’s Golfland) and tried these again, here I am eating my words. I will admit, these irons are absolutely phenomenal, aside from the low spin and very sketchy gapping, I can definitely see why so many golfers choose to bag these, I’m now debating on getting a set. Pairing these with Modus 120 X brings a new experience all together. I would like to apologize for all my trouble and rants but I still stand by my comment about gapping but I will also admit that I was way too critical on these irons.

[cardoustie]

> @"Marco Colo" said:

> > @cardoustie said:

> > Recoil 110

> > 1" long, 1 flat, 1 strong

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> What happened to the blueprints, saw 919 in your WITB signature

 

Still in my rotation, resting in the cold weather

 

 

[cardoustie]

Seems the tour Dept may need to build mine, I want the heavy heads they use in std and shorter builds .. not the lighter ones they use for over length sets like mine

[JCMBORTIZ]

> @ChuckD724 said:

> > @chisag said:

> > ... I started losing paint fill on my P790's and so I just removed it all and think it actually looks cleaner:

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> Looks sharp - I might actually get some different color fill in there to see what it looks like when I get them.

 

Looks real nice - might try that on mine. What'd you use to strip?

[jj9000]

> @cardoustie said:

> Seems the tour Dept may need to build mine, I want the heavy heads they use in std and shorter builds .. not the lighter ones they use for over length sets like mine

 

I piece of advice, as I've walked this path.

 

I suggest calling them every day until your build is complete, to the point of being a nuisance.

 

The online "Custom Shop" doesn't deal with swingweighting. In fact, if you call the first time, they might flat out tell you they don't swingweight. This isn't a PING shop where they'll ensure every detail is cared for. They'll glue the shafts into some heads, cut them, and ship them.

 

It's up to you to ensure your build is done properly. Escalate within Customer Service until you get to someone that can make decisions. Otherwise you might take delivery on a set of irons that are way off spec.

 

Also, once you receive your irons, take them to a pro shop to check the loft/lie.

[KMeloney]

> @mrmikeac said:

> So I went in to my local shop (Carl’s Golfland) and tried these again, here I am eating my words. I will admit, these irons are absolutely phenomenal, aside from the low spin and very sketchy gapping, I can definitely see why so many golfers choose to bag these, I’m now debating on getting a set. Pairing these with Modus 120 X brings a new experience all together. I would like to apologize for all my trouble and rants but I still stand by my comment about gapping but I will also admit that I was way too critical on these irons.

 

Did you get a TM sponsorship deal overnight or something? Haha

 

Seriously, though... A very interesting change of heart here. What, exactly, swayed you?

 

These heads just perform. It's not to say that others can't or don't, but out on the course they just perform. I'll be interested to read your review if you're able to get some course-time with a set of these.

[chisag]

> @JCMBORTIZ said:

> > @ChuckD724 said:

> > > @chisag said:

> > > ... I started losing paint fill on my P790's and so I just removed it all and think it actually looks cleaner:

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> > Looks sharp - I might actually get some different color fill in there to see what it looks like when I get them.

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> Looks real nice - might try that on mine. What'd you use to strip?

 

 

... I pretty much just used a corn cob holder and picked it clean. A little acetone on the stubborn paint fill, but I only needed a little.

 

[mrmikeac]

> @KMeloney said:

> > @mrmikeac said:

> > So I went in to my local shop (Carl’s Golfland) and tried these again, here I am eating my words. I will admit, these irons are absolutely phenomenal, aside from the low spin and very sketchy gapping, I can definitely see why so many golfers choose to bag these, I’m now debating on getting a set. Pairing these with Modus 120 X brings a new experience all together. I would like to apologize for all my trouble and rants but I still stand by my comment about gapping but I will also admit that I was way too critical on these irons.

>

> Did you get a TM sponsorship deal overnight or something? Haha

>

> Seriously, though... A very interesting change of heart here. What, exactly, swayed you?

>

> These heads just perform. It's not to say that others can't or don't, but out on the course they just perform. I'll be interested to read your review if you're able to get some course-time with a set of these.

 

They’re just fun to hit, not exactly a precision based iron but I feel like if you really get these dialed in, they give you an immediate advantage on the course, spin would be the biggest downside of course but if I can find a way to control that aspect these could be a force to be reckoned with. I think it’s just a mixture of great looks, performance and if I can get over the top line and offset I think I may have a winner here.

 

One thing to note: These irons completely changed when I paired them up with Modus 120 X’s, the feel was outstanding.

[cardoustie]

good comment on shaft selection above

 

they were OK for me in some of my buds set ups .. 950gh, Ctaper lite, modus 130 x, DG105 .. 4 combos I tried

 

But dump mypreferred shafts in, at longer, at flatter, at heavier .... and they were REALLY impressive feeling and performing

 

[KMeloney]

> @mrmikeac said:

> > @KMeloney said:

> > > @mrmikeac said:

> > > So I went in to my local shop (Carl’s Golfland) and tried these again, here I am eating my words. I will admit, these irons are absolutely phenomenal, aside from the low spin and very sketchy gapping, I can definitely see why so many golfers choose to bag these, I’m now debating on getting a set. Pairing these with Modus 120 X brings a new experience all together. I would like to apologize for all my trouble and rants but I still stand by my comment about gapping but I will also admit that I was way too critical on these irons.

> >

> > Did you get a TM sponsorship deal overnight or something? Haha

> >

> > Seriously, though... A very interesting change of heart here. What, exactly, swayed you?

> >

> > These heads just perform. It's not to say that others can't or don't, but out on the course they just perform. I'll be interested to read your review if you're able to get some course-time with a set of these.

>

> They’re just fun to hit, not exactly a precision based iron but I feel like if you really get these dialed in, they give you an immediate advantage on the course, spin would be the biggest downside of course but if I can find a way to control that aspect these could be a force to be reckoned with. I think it’s just a mixture of great looks, performance and if I can get over the top line and offset I think I may have a winner here.

>

> One thing to note: These irons completely changed when I paired them up with Modus 120 X’s, the feel was outstanding.

 

Yeah, unless you've put a shaft in them that completely kills the spin these were designed to have, I think you're going to find that these things perform (the ball stops on greens) the way you want them to.

[agood3putt]

> @KMeloney said:

> > @mrmikeac said:

> > > @KMeloney said:

> > > > @mrmikeac said:

> > > > So I went in to my local shop (Carl’s Golfland) and tried these again, here I am eating my words. I will admit, these irons are absolutely phenomenal, aside from the low spin and very sketchy gapping, I can definitely see why so many golfers choose to bag these, I’m now debating on getting a set. Pairing these with Modus 120 X brings a new experience all together. I would like to apologize for all my trouble and rants but I still stand by my comment about gapping but I will also admit that I was way too critical on these irons.

> > >

> > > Did you get a TM sponsorship deal overnight or something? Haha

> > >

> > > Seriously, though... A very interesting change of heart here. What, exactly, swayed you?

> > >

> > > These heads just perform. It's not to say that others can't or don't, but out on the course they just perform. I'll be interested to read your review if you're able to get some course-time with a set of these.

> >

> > They’re just fun to hit, not exactly a precision based iron but I feel like if you really get these dialed in, they give you an immediate advantage on the course, spin would be the biggest downside of course but if I can find a way to control that aspect these could be a force to be reckoned with. I think it’s just a mixture of great looks, performance and if I can get over the top line and offset I think I may have a winner here.

> >

> > One thing to note: These irons completely changed when I paired them up with Modus 120 X’s, the feel was outstanding.

>

> Yeah, unless you've put a shaft in them that completely kills the spin these were designed to have, I think you're going to find that these things perform (the ball stops on greens) the way you want them to.

 

Agreed. I put PX LZ 120s in mine and I love them. Plenty of stopping power and flight for me

[cardoustie]

From my fitting

7i descending at 50* with 5800 backspin . .that'll stop !!!!

[ChuckD724]

> @cardoustie said:

> From my fitting

> 7i descending at 50* with 5800 backspin . .that'll stop !!!!

 

I was right around there with numbers too.

[chisag]

> @KMeloney said:

> > @mrmikeac said:

> > > @KMeloney said:

> > > > @mrmikeac said:

> > > > So I went in to my local shop (Carl’s Golfland) and tried these again, here I am eating my words. I will admit, these irons are absolutely phenomenal, aside from the low spin and very sketchy gapping, I can definitely see why so many golfers choose to bag these, I’m now debating on getting a set. Pairing these with Modus 120 X brings a new experience all together. I would like to apologize for all my trouble and rants but I still stand by my comment about gapping but I will also admit that I was way too critical on these irons.

> > >

> > > Did you get a TM sponsorship deal overnight or something? Haha

> > >

> > > Seriously, though... A very interesting change of heart here. What, exactly, swayed you?

> > >

> > > These heads just perform. It's not to say that others can't or don't, but out on the course they just perform. I'll be interested to read your review if you're able to get some course-time with a set of these.

> >

> > They’re just fun to hit, not exactly a precision based iron but I feel like if you really get these dialed in, they give you an immediate advantage on the course, spin would be the biggest downside of course but if I can find a way to control that aspect these could be a force to be reckoned with. I think it’s just a mixture of great looks, performance and if I can get over the top line and offset I think I may have a winner here.

> >

> > One thing to note: These irons completely changed when I paired them up with Modus 120 X’s, the feel was outstanding.

>

> Yeah, unless you've put a shaft in them that completely kills the spin these were designed to have, I think you're going to find that these things perform (the ball stops on greens) the way you want them to.

 

 

... I had no problem stopping my P790's until I stayed in Phoenix last winter. Several courses I played had very hard and fast greens and stopping iron shots was a problem. Unlike the Midwest where you have ball marks for every shot and some deep craters, it was rare to even find a shallow dent in the desert greens. I picked up a set of P760's and the problem was solved. I would add it was just several courses in my normal rotation and certainly not all courses I played, so the problem was a very specific one. When I came back to the Midwest in late May I went back to my P790's.

[FairwaysToHeaven]

those who've bought the 790s, did you buy with standard lofts? seems you could add a little spin and increase descent angle by weakening the loft 1-2*. Anyone choosing to do this or have tried this?

[Wardman]

Pulled the trigger. P790 with kbs tour 90's, 4-PW. Added 50, 54, and 58 glide 3.0 wedges also. Cannot wait.

[agood3putt]

> @Wardman said:

> Pulled the trigger. P790 with kbs tour 90's, 4-PW. Added 50, 54, and 58 glide 3.0 wedges also. Cannot wait.

 

Good sounding setup man. I got 790 4-PW PX LZ 120s and 50/54 Glide 3.0s

[chisag]

> @HoosierMizuno said:

> those who've bought the 790s, did you buy with standard lofts? seems you could add a little spin and increase descent angle by weakening the loft 1-2*. Anyone choosing to do this or have tried this?

 

 

... I have loft/lie machine and bent my 790 pw-5 irons 1* weak and play the 4 iron at the stock loft:

 

46* 41* 36* 31.5* 27.5* 24.5* 21*

 

[Marco Colo]

Just out of curiosity without any trolling intent: did you notice any occasional flier or they have fixed the issue?

[larciel]

just noticed they added 950gh neo! Anyone tried the shaft?

[chisag]

> @"Marco Colo" said:

> Just out of curiosity without any trolling intent: did you notice any occasional flier or they have fixed the issue?

 

... I have played my P790's for 2 years and never experienced a flier from a good lie. Never. Fwiw, I am 66 and have a 100mph driver swing speed and am usually around the center of the face, my miss being slightly toe side.

[iceman1118]

> @chisag said:

> > @"Marco Colo" said:

> > Just out of curiosity without any trolling intent: did you notice any occasional flier or they have fixed the issue?

>

> ... I have played my P790's for 2 years and never experienced a flier from a good lie. Never. Fwiw, I am 66 and have a 100mph driver swing speed and am usually around the center of the face, my miss being slightly toe side.

 

I can add to this, but slightly smaller sample size. Was fit into 2019 model and received them first week of September. Have about 25 rounds in with them. Zero issues with this as well. A good swing hits my intended number, have not had one shot that went more than intended. Driver SS 110-113, my miss is slightly heel side (I fight being too inside out)

[larciel]

just received p790. The specs are out of WHACK !

everything is .75" shorter. I checked only two clubs. 7 iron and it was 3 weaker. 9iron was 1.5 weaker. I'm Excited to see what number I will see when I check other 5 clubs. !! /s

 

[TheMoneyShot]

My buddy hit them in the Ti version and said they were money.

[RobDMB]

Wondering how 2019 P790 users are liking their irons? Any semi-long term feedback?

[Natural1]

Not long term for me yet.

I put the 2019 790 5 iron in the bag back in November, and I liked it enough that I decided to fill out the set. In my case I was ordering a SIM driver anyway, and so I traded in a bunch of stuff at the 150% bonus, to the point where I only paid tax for the driver and the 790 6-P.

As far as irons in this category go, I've owned a set of AP3s & 718 T-MBs, and an I500 6 iron. From a feel perspective these are definitely the best of the bunch. In the looks department, they are certainly not the equal of the T-MBs, but also not bad either. Performance on mishits seems better with the 790s than any of the others.

I'm a low-launch, high-spin digger and all of my "players distance" irons have been set a bit weak in the long and mid irons. For me, this means 2 additional benefits: a little less offset and a little more bounce. The wider sole with a little extra bounce really fits me well, and so far I've seen no issues with spin on these either. I could certainly do without the thick topline, but it's not all that bad.

My (5-P) set goes 25, 28.5, 32, 36, 40, 44.5. I haven't had many rounds yet, but the trajectory is nice and high, the good shots do what I expect in terms of distance (a few yards farther than my Honmas), direction is reliable, gapping seems fine, and the bad shots are significantly better than they should be. The feel on these is surprisingly decent as well.

I'm not sure yet if these will permanently be in the bag for 2019. My Honma 747V are probably the best forged cavity backs I've ever played (and I've played a bunch over the years!), but the performance of the 790s is pretty hard to argue with. I think the only other club I'm truly interested in is the PXG Gen 3 T. Not sure if I'm willing to go that far on price though.

[RobDMB]

Great comments everyone. Debating buying these now or waiting to see what the Ping i500 successor looks like to compare.

[bg2321]

Agreed, I'm with you on that. Was between the p790, i500 and z585 at my last fitting; all were pretty comparable in performance. Just love the look of the i500, wish I could get a look at the new iteration before summer.

[cardia10]

I have finally given up on mine. Hitting a 7 iron 200 yards is just not productive for me. Now playing the 2003 Rac LT. Traditional lofts and I know exactly how far they will fly without needing 6 wedges.

[RobDMB]

Not productive cause it creates too big of gaps or because the distance control is not what it needs to be or both?