New TM p790 irons ???

[agood3putt]

> @Lefty87 said:

> I'm not questioning anyone's opinion or experience, but how can the feel be that much different when the they've barely changed from the original form?

 

I went to a fitting for them and found them to be soft. And this is coming from the Apex line

[jll62]

> @Lefty87 said:

> I'm not questioning anyone's opinion or experience, but how can the feel be that much different when the they've barely changed from the original form?

 

If the only things that changed were the outer, more cosmetic changes then I'd agree with you. However, the internal changes, namely the repositioning of the tungsten and the change to the inverted cone on the back of the face, will affect how the club sounds/feels. No surprise the club feels different than the prior generation.

[BiggErn]

> @jll62 said:

> > @Lefty87 said:

> > I'm not questioning anyone's opinion or experience, but how can the feel be that much different when the they've barely changed from the original form?

>

> If the only things that changed were the outer, more cosmetic changes then I'd agree with you. However, the internal changes, namely the repositioning of the tungsten and the change to the inverted cone on the back of the face, will affect how the club sounds/feels. No surprise the club feels different than the prior generation.

 

The cone was there before too.

[Lenny2]

I hit 20 balls with the new 790 7 iron and 20 shots with the old 790 iron both shafted with the PX LZ 6.5 and same loft and lie. I can not tell any difference between them. No difference in sound, feel, look at address. Hit both very well . They say the new one is smaller but it’s so minor you can not tell at address

[EricWGolf]

I hit the 2019s next to my 2017s about 3 weeks ago on grass. Slightly different sound (not god or bad, just slightly different), but relatively the same feel.

[jll62]

> @BiggErn said:

> > @jll62 said:

> > > @Lefty87 said:

> > > I'm not questioning anyone's opinion or experience, but how can the feel be that much different when the they've barely changed from the original form?

> >

> > If the only things that changed were the outer, more cosmetic changes then I'd agree with you. However, the internal changes, namely the repositioning of the tungsten and the change to the inverted cone on the back of the face, will affect how the club sounds/feels. No surprise the club feels different than the prior generation.

>

> The cone was there before too.

 

Yep, for sure. But they changed the geometry of the cone a little and moved the location more towards the toe, something that hadn't been done previously. Along with a thinner face, which I forgot to mention, it's definitely going to affect feel off the face.

[texasdave]

Anyone pre-order and get delivery notification today?? I have a package that’s 42x5x4 coming from San Diego that’s getting delivered Thursday!!

 

Really hoping it’s my clubs!!

[ASN21]

> @texasdave said:

> Anyone pre-order and get delivery notification today?? I have a package that’s 42x5x4 coming from San Diego that’s getting delivered Thursday!!

>

> Really hoping it’s my clubs!!

Pics when they arrive Dave!

 

[texasdave]

Unfortunately will be out of town til Saturday but if it’s the clubs I’ll post pics right away.

[cmb71]

> @jll62 said:

> > @hankmoody said:

> > > @jll62 said:

> > > > @hankmoody said:

> > > > Rick Shiels comparison to 17 P790:

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> > > > Bottom line: He loves them, but found no difference in performance between models. Noted that the 19 P790s steel shafts are .25 longer than the 17 version. Did acknowledge TM's thinner face and more tungsten composition. I note that the offset difference is really small: --1-2 mm and only in the 4-6i. From 7 on offset is the same between the 17 and 19 version. (I don't know if I would be able to discern this, particularly as I go down to the 5i only.)

> > > > Shiels view: they kept a good thing good. A 24% price increase is material.

> > >

> > > A couple of things from Rick's video. First, the club length spec is not the sneaky little change as he makes it out to be. TaylorMade changed how they measure clubs in late 2018, well after the P790 was initially released. TM now uses the USGA 60 degree ruler as opposed to their old method that almost no one else was using. This change meant that, on paper, the measured length of clubs went up by a small amount ( about 1/8") because of the different way of measuring. They then rounded up to the next quarter of an inch so that their specs weren't on eighths of an inch intervals. So the 6 iron spec changed from 37.25" on the old ruler to 37.5" on the new ruler (different method plus 1/8"). Had Rick measured the 2017 and 2019 clubs side-by-side on the same ruler, he'd have seen that there is only a 1/8" difference between the two. No one is gaining ball speed with 1/8" of extra length.

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> > > I don't see a 24% price increase, from a US perspective at least. The 2017 P790 released at $1299 and the 2019 model is $1399. That's a $100 increase, or 7.7%.

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> > > Finally, the thinner face is for more ball speed but not out of the center. It's combined with a change to the inverted cone behind the face to preserve ball speed on off-center hits and make heel and toe hits play more similar.

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> > Excellent points. And to me at least, they point toward the 19 version being more similar to the 17 version than different. I don't think that's a bad thing, BTW, and if they come out on top in my own testing, I will purchase the 19s.

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> 100% agree. A nice refinement and smoothing off of a few rough edges. TaylorMade knows the P790 was a hit and they weren't going to rock the boat. And for the average person, a set of irons is a **4-5 year** purchase. They aren't trying to win anyone over who's already playing P790.

 

4-5 sets per year? Yeah, that seems about right for me. :)

Mine just shipped today... excited to get them out for a test run on Friday. The P7TW's are on the bench for the moment. The new UDI and wedges shipped too!

[JoeJoeJoeUrBoat]

jll62 hit the nail on the head. The current 790 gaming golfers aren’t the target at all. There will be some who upgrade, but it’s a fresh new look for those currently in the market. Luckily for me, I’m in the market for irons. As I always am...

[andrevanderpost]

Mine shipped today and expecting them Thursday.....will they push my Blueprints out the bag.....

[HitBombs]

> @TheMoneyShot said:

> > @From_Parts_Unknown said:

> > I just hope the new P790 doesn't have twist face or speed injections. Just make the face hot, no need to take it over the limit and dial it back Taylormade.

>

> I’m hoping the new version will be a little cleaner on the top line with less offset.

 

 

This is what I’ll be hoping for as well. If they have a little cleaner top line in the mid and long irons that would be great. Gamed the original 790 for a season and just found they go dead straight, were harder to work left and right then a more traditional cb which is pretty obvious, but found I really couldn’t bring the flight down, always wanted to go one trajectory, high and low spin, great if you want to hit it really far lol. Currently enjoying the 760s, best of both worlds for me.

 

Will be in the market for a 790 in the 3 iron though, so looking forward to seeing them in hand.

 

[English13]

> @andrevanderpost said:

> Mine shipped today and expecting them Thursday.....will they push my Blueprints out the bag.....

 

Ordered mine in the UK, earliest shipping date here is the 3rd, so looks like Golfers in the USA are going to get their pre orders before us, makes the waiting worse..........

[FairwaysToHeaven]

anyone seen any direct comparisons of the updated p790 and the mizuno hot metal pro?

[kush614]

For anyone that ordered directly through TM and got a ship notification, did they ship close to the earliest ship date that is listed on the checkout page? Mine said Aug 28th so hoping they shipped out today!

[texasdave]

> @kush614 said:

> For anyone that ordered directly through TM and got a ship notification, did they ship close to the earliest ship date that is listed on the checkout page? Mine said Aug 28th so hoping they shipped out today!

 

If you sign up for FedEx delivery notification TM uses them to ship and you can find out that way.

 

 

 

[cmb71]

> @texasdave said:

> > @kush614 said:

> > For anyone that ordered directly through TM and got a ship notification, did they ship close to the earliest ship date that is listed on the checkout page? Mine said Aug 28th so hoping they shipped out today!

>

> If you sign up for FedEx delivery notification TM uses them to ship and you can find out that way.

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Totally worth signing up with Fed Ex for this service IMO. Great advice.

[cmb71]

> @kush614 said:

> For anyone that ordered directly through TM and got a ship notification, did they ship close to the earliest ship date that is listed on the checkout page? Mine said Aug 28th so hoping they shipped out today!

 

They beat the date they said for mine... and they usually do. I was quoted 9/1 as the earliest ship date when I placed my order. They will arrive tomorrow.

[BiggErn]

The best thing about Taylormade is $20 next day shipping. If you’re spending over a grand it’s well worth it.

[kush614]

Nothing showing on Fedex. Bummer. Hope I didn’t pick the one set of shafts that are on backorder

[hibcam]

Mine came today! They feel great, the 5,6 and 7 are WAY louder than I thought. It almost seems like they forgot the speed foam in these! I have just hit them into my net so I have not seen the actual ball flight but like I said they all feel great!

[hibcam]

 

[JoeJoeJoeUrBoat]

Wow looks great in the bag! Looking forward to everyone’s reviews coming in.

[mjbaker80]

I hit this at a TM fitting yesterday. Never hit prior generation. These are pretty unreal and I get why there are so many people that are all-in on these. Fitter said they launch about 1.5 degrees higher, typically. Amazing, these launched LOWER than the 760 during the fitting and lower than my AP2 with KBS Tour V 125 which are pretty beefy.

I'm not sure that I'll pull the trigger with golf season coming coming to an end in MN (and new gear coming in January.... but, these are really impressive irons (as were the old ones, I understand).

[texasdave]

FedEx ap shows mine are at my front door.....and I’m 1500 miles away in Vegas... Anywhere but Vegas and I’d really be pissed!!!

[BostonWRX]

> @hibcam said:

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They look great

[jll62]

> @mjbaker80 said:

> I hit this at a TM fitting yesterday. Never hit prior generation. These are pretty unreal and I get why there are so many people that are all-in on these. Fitter said they launch about 1.5 degrees higher, typically. Amazing, these launched LOWER than the 760 during the fitting and lower than my AP2 with KBS Tour V 125 which are pretty beefy.

> I'm not sure that I'll pull the trigger with golf season coming coming to an end in MN (and new gear coming in January.... but, these are really impressive irons (as were the old ones, I understand).

 

Where did you do your fitting? I'm not really in the target market for these, but I'm very intrigued and want to give them a solid look.

[mjbaker80]

> @jll62 said:

> > @mjbaker80 said:

> > I hit this at a TM fitting yesterday. Never hit prior generation. These are pretty unreal and I get why there are so many people that are all-in on these. Fitter said they launch about 1.5 degrees higher, typically. Amazing, these launched LOWER than the 760 during the fitting and lower than my AP2 with KBS Tour V 125 which are pretty beefy.

> > I'm not sure that I'll pull the trigger with golf season coming coming to an end in MN (and new gear coming in January.... but, these are really impressive irons (as were the old ones, I understand).

>

> Where did you do your fitting? I'm not really in the target market for these, but I'm very intrigued and want to give them a solid look.

 

TPC Twin Cities...the TM rep came by to do fittings and show the new wedges, etc. I will say, I was a bit disappointed in the shaft options in the cart. The only X flex shafts were the LZ (don't like it), C Taper 130 (too stout) and the DG 120 X100 (which I actually really liked and had never so much as touched).

The fitting was very good otherwise. I don't like getting fit for irons inside as I just don't swing the same when my body is bracing for impact against a mat. The 790 head was outstanding. Painfully straight, little curve (both good and bad I suppose) and plenty long. I actually didn't hit the 760 either. I don't know if I'll pull the trigger because we are on the cusp of "new gear" season...but, I could absolutely game these irons. Really good.

 

Sorry, that was a long answer! Fitting was a TPC Twin Cities.

 

[peterrod]

My golf shop called me today and said my P790 are in. Amazed on the quick delivery by TM before Labor Day. Left Handed set 5-AW with Modus 120 Stiff shaft. I will give my feedback tomorrow.