So, Tiger ....

[27x10.5]

This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

[apex17]

He said he is going to take time off.

[QuigleyDU]

> @golfnoob25 said:

> > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > I don’t think Tiger believes he can win many more majors, or any tournament for that matter. It meant a lot to win one for his kids. And for himself as well. I wonder though if the Masters win came too early? Tiger has never been denied much as far as golf and to win so early after such huge obstacles to overcome, both physically and emotionally, you have to stop and think about where he goes now? Sometimes in life winning too early and often can be a real problem. Hopefully things are going well for him.

>

> If Tiger didn't think he could win, he wouldn't play. Period. End of sentence.

 

I think this used to be true.

[puttfordoux]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @golfnoob25 said:

> > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > I don’t think Tiger believes he can win many more majors, or any tournament for that matter. It meant a lot to win one for his kids. And for himself as well. I wonder though if the Masters win came too early? Tiger has never been denied much as far as golf and to win so early after such huge obstacles to overcome, both physically and emotionally, you have to stop and think about where he goes now? Sometimes in life winning too early and often can be a real problem. Hopefully things are going well for him.

> >

> > If Tiger didn't think he could win, he wouldn't play. Period. End of sentence.

>

> I think this used to be true.

 

He will ALWAYS say he plays to win, whether he can or not. That will never change.

[LICC]

> @puttfordoux said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @golfnoob25 said:

> > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > I don’t think Tiger believes he can win many more majors, or any tournament for that matter. It meant a lot to win one for his kids. And for himself as well. I wonder though if the Masters win came too early? Tiger has never been denied much as far as golf and to win so early after such huge obstacles to overcome, both physically and emotionally, you have to stop and think about where he goes now? Sometimes in life winning too early and often can be a real problem. Hopefully things are going well for him.

> > >

> > > If Tiger didn't think he could win, he wouldn't play. Period. End of sentence.

> >

> > I think this used to be true.

>

> He will ALWAYS say he plays to win, whether he can or not. That will never change.

 

Tiger has often made very bad decisions that have hurt his long-term success. Swing change overhauls to chase distance, non-golf activities that wrecked his knees and back, playing way too much last year. His judgement has never been good.

[EvTEC]

Tiger still has a lot left in the tank. Everyone has off weeks!

[MK7Golf21]

> @"27x10.5" said:

> This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

[TreyWingbat]

He didn't miss the cut at the US Open... he missed it at the PGA.

But 4 missed cuts in his first 70 Majors, now 7 out of the last 14.

[TheMoneyShot]

TW will be back to tie and then eventually beat Sammy’s record...

[QuigleyDU]

> @LICC said:

> > @puttfordoux said:

> > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > @golfnoob25 said:

> > > > > @Lagavulin62 said:

> > > > > I don’t think Tiger believes he can win many more majors, or any tournament for that matter. It meant a lot to win one for his kids. And for himself as well. I wonder though if the Masters win came too early? Tiger has never been denied much as far as golf and to win so early after such huge obstacles to overcome, both physically and emotionally, you have to stop and think about where he goes now? Sometimes in life winning too early and often can be a real problem. Hopefully things are going well for him.

> > > >

> > > > If Tiger didn't think he could win, he wouldn't play. Period. End of sentence.

> > >

> > > I think this used to be true.

> >

> > He will ALWAYS say he plays to win, whether he can or not. That will never change.

>

> Tiger has often made very bad decisions that have hurt his long-term success. Swing change overhauls to chase distance, non-golf activities that wrecked his knees and back, playing way too much last year. His judgement has never been good.

 

nevermind..

[bscinstnct]

> @TheMoneyShot said:

> TW will be back to tie and then eventually beat Sammy’s record...

 

That's already done. No diss to Sam but a lot of his wins are a complete joke....team events, 36 hole events, one event was 18 holes, lol.

 

 

.

 

One event had FOUR people in it. Another event had 4 people tied for 1st and they gave all four people a win.

 

[Cincy_Ken]

Yeah I don't remember where the article was but to call Snead the all time winner takes very questionable math. It's still the number the tour recognizes so it has significance but by any objective standard Tiger is well above Snead.

[TheMoneyShot]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > TW will be back to tie and then eventually beat Sammy’s record...

>

> That's already done. No diss to Sam but a lot of his wins are a complete joke....team events, 36 hole events, one event was 18 holes, lol. One event had FOUR people in it. Another event had 4 people tied for 1st and they gave all four people a win.

>

 

Wow, I didn’t even realize all of that.

[Cincy_Ken]

Golf digests calculation is if they used the same standard for Tiger he'd be at 95.

[bscinstnct]

> @TheMoneyShot said:

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > TW will be back to tie and then eventually beat Sammy’s record...

> >

> > That's already done. No diss to Sam but a lot of his wins are a complete joke....team events, 36 hole events, one event was 18 holes, lol. One event had FOUR people in it. Another event had 4 people tied for 1st and they gave all four people a win.

> >

>

> Wow, I didn’t even realize all of that.

 

 

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/forget-sam-snead-tiger-woods-already-has-the-tour-record-for-wins-seriously

 

 

While we're here, one of the 36-hole tournaments, the 1946 World Championship of Golf, had all of four players in it. Might as well credit Tiger for his "Monday Night Golf" showdowns or his seven PGA Grand Slam of Golf titles.

 

.

 

We'd be remiss in forgetting to add the 1950 Bing Crosby Pro-Am. The Clambake was canceled because of darkness, with Snead tied with three others when play was suspended. Instead of coming back for a playoff, a tie was declared, all four players given the win.

 

 

[Darth Putter]

Tiger's not going to jump up and down demanding the record be set straight now out of respect for Sam.

 

That said, from a purely academic point of view, he's already got that record.

 

I suspect there will be a further adjustment of Snead's record once Tiger retires.

[Darth Putter]

Sad in Memphis...

 

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/columnists/mark-giannotto/2019/07/19/tiger-woods-wgc-memphis-fedex-st-jude-commitment/1743860001/

[MountainGoat]

> @"Darth Putter" said:

> Sad in Memphis...

>

> https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/columnists/mark-giannotto/2019/07/19/tiger-woods-wgc-memphis-fedex-st-jude-commitment/1743860001/

What's the problem...not warm enough?

 

[farmer]

Comparing Snead's wins with Tiger's illuminates the difficulty in comparing eras. Snead played in the events that were available to be played, and was playing to make a living. Some of those events were less than stellar, but that's all there was. They were counted as official wins at the time, they should count as official wins today.

[fullstop]

> @"27x10.5" said:

> This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

 

He stone-cold topped a couple on the range pre-round yesterday and looked very stiff all day. Today was better.

[bscinstnct]

> @farmer said:

> Comparing Snead's wins with Tiger's illuminates the difficulty in comparing eras. Snead played in the events that were available to be played, and was playing to make a living. Some of those events were less than stellar, but that's all there was. They were counted as official wins at the time, they should count as official wins today.

 

They can be counted but then the 2 records need to be compared separately. If you count TWs wins with the same criteria as Sneads, he has 95 PGA Tour wins.

[farmer]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @farmer said:

> > Comparing Snead's wins with Tiger's illuminates the difficulty in comparing eras. Snead played in the events that were available to be played, and was playing to make a living. Some of those events were less than stellar, but that's all there was. They were counted as official wins at the time, they should count as official wins today.

>

> They can be counted but then the 2 records need to be compared separately. If you count TWs wins with the same criteria as Sneads, he has 95 PGA Tour wins.

 

Not really, because Tiger had other choices. The made for tv events, and so on simply did not exist in Snead's era.

[Titleist99]

> @lawsonman said:

> > @BearQ said:

> > Allowing to many of these spam threads. Shut them down immediately

>

> So this is a spam thread? Why? Because someone posts their opinion? There was nothing in Tigers body language yesterday that showed me he even wanted to be there. I don't think Tiger is finished by any means but yesterday he DID look old and tired. If you want some threads shut down there's plenty enough other ones around here where dudes are name calling to go around.

 

LOL!.....there's a click on this board that make silly comments like that when they have nothing intelligent to say... I call their little click "The thread wreckers"....LOL!

[Titleist99]

Tiger will be ready for the play offs ……...

[MK7Golf21]

> @Titleist99 said:

> > @lawsonman said:

> > > @BearQ said:

> > > Allowing to many of these spam threads. Shut them down immediately

> >

> > So this is a spam thread? Why? Because someone posts their opinion? There was nothing in Tigers body language yesterday that showed me he even wanted to be there. I don't think Tiger is finished by any means but yesterday he DID look old and tired. If you want some threads shut down there's plenty enough other ones around here where dudes are name calling to go around.

>

> LOL!.....there's a click on this board that make silly comments like that when they have nothing intelligent to say... I call their little click "The thread wreckers"....LOL!

 

yea, Tiger hasn't been the same since the masters win really. It's like that masters win scratched an inch and now he is just taking it slow an easy. He didn't show up ready to win any of the majors after the win. I hope he gets that drive back

[TLUBulldogGolf]

> @MountainGoat said:

> > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > Sad in Memphis...

> >

> > https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/columnists/mark-giannotto/2019/07/19/tiger-woods-wgc-memphis-fedex-st-jude-commitment/1743860001/

> What's the problem...not warm enough?

>

 

Playing it would mean 5 of 6 weeks if he made it through playoffs, seems pretty clear he was unlikely to play it based on his schedule up to this point. But don't let me get in the way of your narrative.

[OldTomMorris]

Anything is a bonus from now on.

[Darth Putter]

> @farmer said:

> Comparing Snead's wins with Tiger's illuminates the difficulty in comparing eras. Snead played in the events that were available to be played, and was playing to make a living. Some of those events were less than stellar, but that's all there was. They were counted as official wins at the time, they should count as official wins today.

 

Snead's first officially recognized total of 88 was already adjusted to 81 by the PGA Tour thirty years ago. It became 82 when the British Open became an official win.

[Darth Putter]

> @farmer said:

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > > @farmer said:

> > > Comparing Snead's wins with Tiger's illuminates the difficulty in comparing eras. Snead played in the events that were available to be played, and was playing to make a living. Some of those events were less than stellar, but that's all there was. They were counted as official wins at the time, they should count as official wins today.

> >

> > They can be counted but then the 2 records need to be compared separately. If you count TWs wins with the same criteria as Sneads, he has 95 PGA Tour wins.

>

> Not really, because Tiger had other choices. The made for tv events, and so on simply did not exist in Snead's era.

 

Sam played far more exhibitions than Tiger.

And he was on tv.

 

He took on Dean Martin too

https://youtu.be/ZWklhRYr0GA

 

 

[grm24]

> @TheMoneyShot said:

> I wonder when we will see T Dubs next? Memphis?

 

No. He's skipping the WGC.