NFL 2019 Season Discussion

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LOL the NFL hasn't called that OPI on the replay all year, and they have not overturned it on the replay if it was called...why would they change now?

In real time it's nothing. Slow it down and you see a slight push....and, oh no?, head movement by the DB, lol....it's getting so sickening listening to it after the fact...and Dungy and Harrison....really you guys are comical. That's the game these days, whining after a close up replay on not much of anything and then outrage! Minnesota outplayed NO and they won.

[MtlJeff]

I ranted about this last weekend too. I'm sick of the complaining. It was inevitable with the saints though because of the power of narrative. I actually had a friendly bet with a friend of mine that if the Saints lost the headline would be about the officials, I'm not sure of this quite qualifies but it's close. Its just great clickbait to say the Saints got screwed because of last year that they cant help themselves .

Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson STILL hasn't snapped the ball on 3rd and long yesterday .

Theres close calls in every game.

 

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That should silence a few doubters with that performance today number 8.

My MAN, Nice throws indeed

 

[scratchswinger]

Kurt will be back to reality next Saturday.

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Seahawks needed all 4 quarters to beat a dismantled Eagles team, a win is a win especially in January but I just wasn’t very impressed.

[MtlJeff]

But this is a fair reality for him. Hes not a top 7-8 guy. He played well and got them a playoff win, losing to a 12-4 niners team is no shame unless Dalvin goes nuts and he blows it.

Making the top 8 is good for this Vikings team

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The Seahawks seem to play down to their competition. None of their their wins were that impressive, and, I am a fan. I hope they can beat the packers in Green Bay, which, is a tough task.

[Shilgy]

The ball has been snapped in your picture. What does that prove?

[scratchswinger]

13-3

Should be a good game, Zimmer will have them ready. Niner games have been extremely entertaining this season, we will be in for a treat. If Dee Ford, Tartt and Kwon play close to the way they were pre injury and the offense continues to move the ball this Niner squad is going to be fire.

[Shilgy]

So do I, the court can explain karma to the Saints.... #bountygate

[Forged4ever]

Apologies for the quotes in my post as I didn’t mean to hit them and now it won’t let me delete em, only allowing me to delete my post?

 

This would be too good to be true as it would only be a stop-gap for one, if Ben can’t make it back, and secondly, if he does make it back though can’t make all the necessary throws, ala the duckster, and third, if he can resume where he left off, could Tom accept a back-seat role??

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/01/05/tom-brady-to-pittsburgh-steelers/amp/

 

I don’t think so though it’s a slow news day in the Burgh, however even a tired worn-out Brady is better than a friggin duck, lolol

 

Oh yea, I have Baltimore goin all the way, and I won with Seattle and Tennessee.

 

After the break, New England never came out firing.~

 

The Fins sucked whatever heart that New England had left right out of em!!

 

Happy New Year Gents?

RP

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Watson is dope!

 

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[MtlJeff]

I cant believe Aaron Rodgers threw for 4000yds, 26 td and 6 picks for a 13-3 team that outperformed expected win/loss , lost their top receiver for weeks, and I'm pretty sure I haven't heard his name mentioned since he was dating Olivia Munn

He was throwing to Allen Lazard and Juan Valdez Scantling for a lot of games

I fully support Lamar for MVP , but man I feel like were taking Rodgers a bit for granted here

 

[scratchswinger]

Bro I gotta ask, do you watch the actual games or just look at stat lines? Don't take that the wrong way as I am being serious but he was really bad against Detroit other then the end of the game. Did you see his two games against the Chargers and Niners?

Look I love Aaron Rodgers, I have had countless arguments with people that in 2011 he was the GOAT and that is arguably the most dominate performance ever in sports. Jimmy G has been better then Aaron Rodgers this year and it is not even close. Look at their numbers, Rodgers has less picks but basically everything else Jimmy has him. And it's like Aaron has no talent around him, Aaron simply has not elevated his receiving core like good QB's do. He also threw his prior coach under the bus and ran him out of town.

I just looked at his stats - he has 12 games with a sub 100 QB rating. I mean you want to talk about a lack of Respect - Jimmy G is at the very top of that list. You got me fired up

[MtlJeff]

With Rodgers mostly just looked at stats, I had mentioned I didn't watch a ton of packers games this year . I've watched Rodgers a lot over the years just not this season or last season much

I mostly watched the teams I like this year. Vikings, Ravens, Giants, Titans once they played Tannehill, Rams, chiefs, Bills..a couple others. I have no idea why I watched the Giants so much. I think I want Daniel Jones to do well because everyone hated that pick

Yeah I know the eye test is different, just figure he probably did some good things

I watched the 49ers 2-3 times. Probably not enough to speak about Jimmy G like I know

[PappyVanWinkle53]

Booger is an absolute vacuum of the English language.....

[PappyVanWinkle53]

The Saints have already paid heavily for that......

[scratchswinger]

Career he's 21-5 as a starter and people still question if he is a franchise QB. Since the Niners Run game took the league by storm and teams have dared Jimmy to beat them he has 18 TDs 5 INTs, 8.75 Y/A, 109 rating in 9 games. Including the shootout win in NO and a win at Seattle. Niners games have been extremely exciting pretty much all season.

I like the Giants bringing in Garrett, I know he had his down fall as a head coach but he did a good job with Romo and Dak, I would expect Jones to show some nice improvement under him if they in fact hire him.

[MtlJeff]

Their head coach hire seemed kinda weird , I dont know enough about the guy but a receivers coach to head coach in the NFL seems like a leap

Feels like when companies fall in love with some young hotshot and promote him 2-3 spots higher than he should be . Theres a lot of that going on in the NFL since McVay succeeded so young. But Mcvay was a coordinator for a few years at least

Maybe I'm wrong, again I'm just getting back into the NFL

[scratchswinger]

The Redskins had LaFleur, Shanahan, and McVay all under one roof and ended up hiring Jay Gruden. Yeah seems like a strange hire for the Giants but who knows....

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One authors take on ranking the 8 remaining playoff QB's.

Scratchswinger I was a tad surprised at GQ Jimmy coming in hard at 7th. NFL Power Rankings: Rodgers? Wilson? Mahomes? Jackson? Ranking the eight QBs left in the playoffsMy Captain Kirk at 6.

What would be some of you fellas list of the top 10 going into the playoffs?

I think the top 5 could come in any order.

Here is my 10 in power rankings for the playoffs remaining.

Patrick - Lamar - Russel - Deshaun - Jimmy - Aaron - Kirk - Ryan

[MtlJeff]

Russell wilson to me is the best QB in the league right now overall. In terms of if you had to build a team from scratch for 1 year

I'd put Mahomes second

Jackson 3rd

Rodgers 4th

Watson 5th

Of these quarterbacks, I have watched all of them 4-5 times each this year, with the exception of Rodgers

[scratchswinger]

He’s pretty good. The last game against the Niners he completely controlled the entire game. I felt like he was intentionally taking less yards to string out drive and keep his defense off the field because he knew the Seattle D could not stop the Niners.

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^ pretty good, cough, says the 49rs fan/ division rival . lol I'm just having fun because you said pretty good. Russel Wilson is the MAN as a NFL QB.

How about a ranking of the QB's from you Scratch? Who you have top 5 in predicting playoffs (this season) performance?

It will be fun to look back on our lists following the weekend's games.

 

 

[scratchswinger]

can you rephrase the question? Who would I take for one season in a draft or who do I think will have the best playoff run?

[MtlJeff]

Yeah i'm not picking Seattle to win....but if Aliens took over earth and challenged us to a game "space jam" style.....Russell Wilson is my guy

I really, really want to have Deshaun Watson higher because i feel like there's something special about him. However, i can't get over the amount of sacks he takes or how bad the offense looks sometimes without Will Fuller. However there's also a part of me that thinks if he was on the Rams last year with McVay they would have averaged 55 pts a game

[scratchswinger]

1) Lamar - RPO is the best offense in my opinion and nobody has ran better in history then what Jackson has done so far. The thing with RPO is it’s not just a running game it’s a dynamic running game meaning it constantly causes a mismatch and that’s what good coordinators are always trying to do. Exploit weaknesses and create mismatches. When the Ravens run the RPO out of the pistol it’s has been unstoppable. The Ravens average some crazy stats like 3 points per drive, 50 yards per drive and 80% drive success rate. Until someone can stop him I don’t see how another QB can orchestrate a better offense.

2) Mahomie - most talented QB in the league, if the question was one pick for the rest of their career (not just one year) Mahomie is my guy.

3) Wilson - probably the smartest QB in the league, he literally throws balls based off defenders positioning just because he knows it will be a penalty. He manages a game a lot like Manning did. His flaw is he leaves the pocket way to early at times rather then shifting or stepping up.

4) Watson - I would love to see what he could do with the Ravens o line.

5) No way I’m taking Rodgers, guy has been really bad more then a few times this year. He has 4 games with a QBR over 100 and 8 games with it less then 90. I routinely saw him miss open receivers this season and get completely shut down twice. I like Rodgers a lot, he’s from my neck of the woods and it’s a small community. I just wouldn’t include him based off past performances, I might as well include Brady then. It’s a tossup between Jimmy G and Wentz. People love to hate on Jimmy, he’s 20-5 career as a starter, Bellicheck wanted him over Brady, Brady felt threatened by him (what’s that tell you). Teams tried to make the Niners one dimensional and dared Jimmy to beat them and he has. He has 9 games with a QBR over 100. I just feel like he doesn’t get the credit he deserves, maybe he will lay an egg this weekend and I’ll be wrong about him. He was what 6-0 his first season as a niner when he took over a 1-9 or something like that.

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^ thanks ScratchS. You asked me to rephrase the question. I meant just predict the best performance in the playoffs for this year only by a QB.

Thanks

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