RIP my sweet baby G400…where do I turn?

[2Down]

Stealth, then billy bob for an 8 gram back wieght.  bumps the swing wieght up about two point and creates a forgiving weapon you’ll love.  Maybe choke it up a ½ inch  but it swings like the heavy ping heads then.  Or regrip with a heavier grip or put a strip o lead tape under the grip to counterweight like ping shafts.   

[Jmccas]

I’m currently gaming a Ping G400 and it’s a great driver. I have an STZ 220 I’m gonna put in play Monday for the first time. It’s a lot like the G400 but better sounding and feel. Plus it can be had for cheap compared to the other new releases. 
 

I did a driver fitting earlier this year. Nothing beat out the G400 but I picked up the STZ 220 on a whim and really have enjoyed it. Hope it goes well Monday. 
 

I really liked the Cobra line but it was just too low spin for me. 

[DaveMc82]

Only driver that successfully replaced it for me is the Mavrik SZ. Heavier sole weights to up the swingweight and my experiments were over. 

[Port and Starboard]

On 9/30/2022 at 1:16 AM, Asizzle10 said:

My G400 cracked just as I was getting in a groove. Unsure where to go. Should I buy a used one online or get something new? I liked the g400 but I don’t really know what else is out there. 
 

Has anyone moved on from the g400 successfully?

 

Geeeees!    Never seen a driver crack on the crown before.

 

I cracked the face on the older Taylormade 580 driver once hitting it off the fairway, but I've never seen anything like this.

[Therealpatgiles]

19 minutes ago, Port and Starboard said:

 

Geeeees!    Never seen a driver crack on the crown before.

 

I cracked the face on the older Taylormade 580 driver once hitting it off the fairway, but I've never seen anything like this.

There's 2 that broke identically. If this was a TM Stealth thread it'd be 100 posts of haters.  

[BYK]

Sorry this happened 

guess I wish I had the ss for this to even be a possibility for me

[Asizzle10]

UPDATE...PING ended up giving me a slight discount on a G425 lst.  Wasn't too sure about it with the G430 coming out in a couple months, but after a club fitting, my decision was easy.  I'm absolutely amazed and confused at the results.  I've gained 30 yds with the 425.  Club Head Speed, Ball Speed and ball speed way up, spin down.  I was put into a stronger and heavier shaft.

 

Is the shaft the reason for this increase?   Or is it possible I had a "bad G400"?

 

Either way I'm obviously very happy and kicking myself for not upgrading earlier when I sensed something was wrong with my driving distance vs my irons.

[MountainKing]

On 10/2/2022 at 6:04 AM, Therealpatgiles said:

There's 2 that broke identically. If this was a TM Stealth thread it'd be 100 posts of haters.  

I was just thinking the same thing,  how different people are here vs a similar TM thread.  

[Puttersaurus Rex]

3 minutes ago, MountainKing said:

I was just thinking the same thing,  how different people are here vs a similar TM thread.  

The difference is the G400 was released in 2017, and the Stealth was released last year with a higher failure rate 🙄

[bluedot]

I used the G400 from 2018 until earlier this year when I got fitted to the Rogue ST.  My fitter (same guy who had fitted me for the G400 back in 2018) was somewhat surprised that I got better numbers with the Rogue ST than the G400; he believes that the G400 is better than anything Ping has made since, and as good as anything on the market generally.

 

The only reason we could figure for why I was getting better numbers with the Rogue ST was the Tensei Blue shaft.  That shaft, for whatever reason, really seems to suit me; it's in my Ping hybrids AND my Titleist T200 irons, so now with the driver, every club in the bag.  FWIW, I think the Alta shaft in the G400 is very, very good; I just think the Tensei worked slightly better for me.

 

Long way of saying that I wouldn't necessarily be in a hurry to move away from the G400 unless you get some Trackman data to show you that something else is clearly better.  The G400 is that good.

[dmeeksDC]

2 hours ago, bluedot said:

I used the G400 from 2018 until earlier this year when I got fitted to the Rogue ST.  My fitter (same guy who had fitted me for the G400 back in 2018) was somewhat surprised that I got better numbers with the Rogue ST than the G400; he believes that the G400 is better than anything Ping has made since, and as good as anything on the market generally.

 

The only reason we could figure for why I was getting better numbers with the Rogue ST was the Tensei Blue shaft.  That shaft, for whatever reason, really seems to suit me; it's in my Ping hybrids AND my Titleist T200 irons, so now with the driver, every club in the bag.  FWIW, I think the Alta shaft in the G400 is very, very good; I just think the Tensei worked slightly better for me.

 

Long way of saying that I wouldn't necessarily be in a hurry to move away from the G400 unless you get some Trackman data to show you that something else is clearly better.  The G400 is that good.

Played the G400 and IMO that is Ping’s best driver. I loved the sound of it, I don’t know what happened with Ping’s acoustics since. If you can replace the head easily, that’s going to be most comfortable. I’d probably do that regardless. 
 

If budget is no issue, perhaps you want to hit a bunch of the new ones. A lot of love for the Titleist TSR lineup. They look great, cost a lot. 
 

I ended up in a Rogue ST Max LS and I think this lineup is the most like the Pings in terms of forgiveness. The Callaways are very long in all three heads, whatever one suits you. Pretty interesting to see a number of better players getting their best fit with the Max D head. Overall if I had to predict a different brand that would be the most seamless from the G400, it would be one of these and the price has dropped on Callaway Preowned. 

[MountainKing]

8 hours ago, Puttersaurus Rex said:

The difference is the G400 was released in 2017, and the Stealth was released last year with a higher failure rate 🙄

 

What data are you basing this on? You have hard numbers on both clubs or you just guessing?

[Puttersaurus Rex]

3 hours ago, MountainKing said:

 

What data are you basing this on? You have hard numbers on both clubs or you just guessing?

The hardest of hard data...Wrx threads.  
 

Anyone can search the threads and see the minimal g400 failures compared to stealths.

Edited October 20, 2022 by Puttersaurus Rex

[JungleJimbo]

9 hours ago, dmeeksDC said:

Played the G400 and IMO that is Ping’s best driver. I loved the sound of it, I don’t know what happened with Ping’s acoustics since. If you can replace the head easily, that’s going to be most comfortable. I’d probably do that regardless. 
 

If budget is no issue, perhaps you want to hit a bunch of the new ones. A lot of love for the Titleist TSR lineup. They look great, cost a lot. 
 

I ended up in a Rogue ST Max LS and I think this lineup is the most like the Pings in terms of forgiveness. The Callaways are very long in all three heads, whatever one suits you. Pretty interesting to see a number of better players getting their best fit with the Max D head. Overall if I had to predict a different brand that would be the most seamless from the G400, it would be one of these and the price has dropped on Callaway Preowned. 

 

On 9/30/2022 at 1:16 PM, Asizzle10 said:

My G400 cracked just as I was getting in a groove. Unsure where to go. Should I buy a used one online or get something new? I liked the g400 but I don’t really know what else is out there. 
 

Has anyone moved on from the g400 successfully?

Consider also the PXG models? I heard PXG/Parsons poached a bunch of ping engineers ie likely you will find similar design concepts / playability vs Ping?

[me05501]

23 hours ago, Asizzle10 said:

UPDATE...PING ended up giving me a slight discount on a G425 lst.  Wasn't too sure about it with the G430 coming out in a couple months, but after a club fitting, my decision was easy.  I'm absolutely amazed and confused at the results.  I've gained 30 yds with the 425.  Club Head Speed, Ball Speed and ball speed way up, spin down.  I was put into a stronger and heavier shaft.

 

Is the shaft the reason for this increase?   Or is it possible I had a "bad G400"?

 

Either way I'm obviously very happy and kicking myself for not upgrading earlier when I sensed something was wrong with my driving distance vs my irons.

 

Maybe your head was compromised before that crack showed up? 

[MountainKing]

10 hours ago, Puttersaurus Rex said:

The hardest of hard data...Wrx threads.  
 

Anyone can search the threads and see the minimal g400 failures compared to stealths.

 

If we're going that route I know 6 guys who have Stealth's in their bag, none have failed, so it must be pretty darn reliable.  I had a buddy of mine crack his g400 a couple years back, so I guess my data tells me otherwise, in fact he tends to crack/damage drivers on a yearly basis given his club head speed is in the long driver range, so I'd never consider any of those other manufactures since they all seem to have faulty products.   

[DaRiz]

without reading any of the comments and speaking only from personal experience I can confidently say that no one has ever successfully moved on from the G400

[sanzo]

On 10/20/2022 at 6:07 PM, DaRiz said:

without reading any of the comments and speaking only from personal experience I can confidently say that no one has ever successfully moved on from the G400

I'm moving on from it after a few months cause its not all that inconsistent  but if you say there's not much better out there then maybe I'll not upgrade at all  was going to go for the stz220

[Asizzle10]

11 minutes ago, sanzo said:

I'm moving on from it after a few months cause its not all that inconsistent  but if you say there's not much better out there then maybe I'll not upgrade at all  was going to go for the stz220

I actually moved onto the G425 and it was a game changer for me. I also got a new shaft so that might have something to do with it. But I had significant distance and accuracy improvement matter moving to 425.

[miles2go]

eBay search ping G400 head only. Lots of choices. Tried numerous others, including newer Pings. Still the hottest head I have ever played. Obviously, mileage must vary because lots of players like other stuff.