2023 Solheim Cup (Sep 22-24)

[imakaveli]

3 hours ago, JetSpeed79 said:

 

 

Kudos to Hunter Mahan for taking it like a champ in the press room. Lexi take note.

[Titleist_PT23]

2 minutes ago, imakaveli said:

Kudos to Hunter Mahan for taking it like a champ in the press room. Lexi take note.

The strawberries and the strawberry farmers do not agree.

[imakaveli]

Just now, Titleist_PT23 said:

The strawberries and the strawberry farmers do not agree.

Wait I dont get the quote… is that related to Kaymer at Medinah?

[khalespace]

1 hour ago, Cwebb said:

 

Totally agree.  I'd even like to see alternate shot

How about alternate shot with 4 players team? That would be fun. They can pick anyone to hit any shot depending on their strengths.

[PZero]

1 hour ago, Titleist_PT23 said:

Lexi's had a number of issues that probably give many people few reasons to cut her much slack.

 

As for the media, that's what being a star is; you are under scrutiny.  Possibly, Lexi also hasn't turned into what the media tried to make her be, so they have turned on her / easy target.  [Edit] The media also exists to sell articles.  Had she been Hedwalled, almost certainly it would have been called a collapse, even if to little/no fault of hers.  Is anyone lighting up Ewing?  Again, that's what being a star entails.

 

The media are a bunch of shmucks and deserve to be treated as such. 

[Titleist_PT23]

4 minutes ago, PZero said:

 

The media are a bunch of shmucks and deserve to be treated as such. 

Is it OK when the media says good things about a player (and helps them earn millions of dollars)?  Time to put the big boy (or girl) pants on.

[Bowmangolf12]

It’ll be interesting to compare Solheim cup to Ryder cup coverage. I wish they put up more carry/distance stats during the coverage. I think it would help us mortals better understand course management. Probably too expensive to have all the same trackman and such but it was kind of hard for me to follow. 

[AKL Kiwi]

Congrats to the Europeans but it was a draw and both sides had players with mixed form throughout. Let's face it this tournament isn't about the best female golfers in the world against each other so the standard was not expected to be that high. Be interesting to see who survives for next year's encounter. With some players coming from nowhere to win LPGA tournaments upsetting the RR you would have to think there is only a few on both teams almost certain to make it.

 

The comment "Rose will be a US stalwart down the years" could be a little premature remember she made the USA team based on one pro playoff win and her very low RR divisor. She will need more top 10's over the next year or rely on a captains pick.

 

Always a fun tournament to watch and enjoyed this one more being so close.

[18majors]

@AKL Kiwi

 

Nice to know you’re alive and well!  
 

Regarding Rose, she’s clearly hasn’t accomplished professionally 10% of what Lydia has accomplished when Lydia was 20 years old.  But remember, she’s done better than Tiger Woods at this age.

 

We just need to wait and see.

Edited September 24, 2023 by 18majors

[imakaveli]

18 minutes ago, AKL Kiwi said:

Congrats to the Europeans but it was a draw and both sides had players with mixed form throughout. Let's face it this tournament isn't about the best female golfers in the world against each other so the standard was not expected to be that high. Be interesting to see who survives for next year's encounter. With some players coming from nowhere to win LPGA tournaments upsetting the RR you would have to think there is only a few on both teams almost certain to make it.

 

The comment "Rose will be a US stalwart down the years" could be a little premature remember she made the USA team based on one pro playoff win and her very low RR divisor. She will need more top 10's over the next year or rely on a captains pick.

 

Always a fun tournament to watch and enjoyed this one more being so close.

A draw where one team got the cup and the other got paella 🙂 

I’ll get my coat…

[jkumpire]

Very very disappointing result to the matches. USA did not play well, and Europe did enough. I hope this changes next weekend in Italy.

[Titleist_PT23]

9 hours ago, ChronicSlicer said:

Oh come on now, I want to see if we both think the same🤔

Some of the reasons are, in my opinion, partly why the US hasn't produced a dominant star in recent years.  How's that😉.

[jimecherry]

39 minutes ago, jkumpire said:

Very very disappointing result to the matches. USA did not play well, and Europe did enough. I hope this changes next weekend in Italy.

oh it will usa will play well and still get beat ;}

[Hawkeye77]

1 hour ago, 18majors said:

@AKL Kiwi

 

Nice to know you’re alive and well!  
 

Regarding Rose, she’s clearly hasn’t accomplished professionally 10% of what Lydia has accomplished when Lydia was 20 years old.  But remember, she’s done better than Tiger Woods at this age.

 

We just need to wait and see.

 

LOL, missed her two other USGA Amateur Championship wins.  And Tiger had two pro wins when 20, she has . . . one, but has some time left.  Anyway, apples and oranges. 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Hawkeye77

[freddi22cl]

Linn Grant has the best swing on tour

 

how does she not win multiple majors?

[OrangeGravy]

This will make Ciganda especially and her teammates legends in their respective home countries beyond just hardcore golf fans. If you flip the results, the US players would be temporary heroes to a small subset of golf fans. In my opinion,  this disparity in passion from the outside is reflected in each side's mindset in these events. It's obviously not the sole variable,  but all things being equal talent wise, it shows

[wobgon]

I say it every Solheim cup and every Ryder cup so I might as well say it again.....Not sure why anyone gets to excited about a team made up of 12 countries playing a single country. Before all the comments about how large the US is, consider how all these smaller countries compete against the US in all the other sports without teaming up.

Edited September 25, 2023 by wobgon

[Rapidcat]

3 hours ago, khalespace said:

Yes, no other sport where a tie is a loss. 3 hole playoff with 2 players. After that sudden death.

 

Cricket.

[Cwebb]

23 minutes ago, freddi22cl said:

Linn Grant has the best swing on tour

 

how does she not win multiple majors?

It's very early in her career.  She'll have plenty of chances, but you need to putt well to close the deal.  I think she'll get it done

[Cwebb]

3 hours ago, Titleist_PT23 said:

Winning is going home with the Cup, that happened?

 

The challenger had 28 chances to make a difference, they didn't do it.  Try again next time.

 

They could improve this event, if they decide to.

[Cwebb]

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Edited September 25, 2023 by Cwebb

[ChronicSlicer]

3 hours ago, Titleist_PT23 said:

Is it OK when the media says good things about a player (and helps them earn millions of dollars)?  Time to put the big boy (or girl) pants on.

A players performance earns them money. Over exposed media coverage likely has hurt more athletes than helped them. Without the athletes those bums wouldn't have a job. 

[ChronicSlicer]

1 hour ago, Titleist_PT23 said:

Some of the reasons are, in my opinion, partly why the US hasn't produced a dominant star in recent years.  How's that😉.

I was thinking differently, but on that note I believe the talent pool is too deep world wide, but not quite deep enough stateside.

[Titleist_PT23]

4 minutes ago, ChronicSlicer said:

A players performance earns them money. Over exposed media coverage likely has hurt more athletes than helped them. Without the athletes those bums wouldn't have a job. 

On course performance earns players prize money.  I think it would be incorrect to say that media coverage does not aid in endorsement dollars or that only performance brings in that money?

 

As for hurt more than helped, that may be true in absolute number, but that's not what the entire system is doing or why see the outcomes that we do (total opportunity for players to earn money).

 

The players (or tour) could always ask the media to go away (literally just don't cover the sport) or just not answer any questions.  Do you think anyone is up for that ex-ante?

[JungleJimbo]

2 minutes ago, ChronicSlicer said:

I was thinking differently, but on that note I believe the talent pool is too deep world wide, but not quite deep enough stateside.

Hypothetically... if they reconfigured the Solheim Cup to be "Americas vs Europe"

... other than Brooke Henderson, who else has a decent chance to make the team? 

[ChronicSlicer]

56 minutes ago, freddi22cl said:

Linn Grant has the best swing on tour

 

how does she not win multiple majors?

Anne Van Dam has an equally great swing and she can't keep her LPGA card, most people think Lexi has a terrible swing but has 11 wins including a major. 

It takes more than a beautiful swing to get the job done.

[bcjim]

51 minutes ago, wobgon said:

I say it every Solheim cup and every Ryder cup so I might as well say it again.....Not sure why anyone gets to excited about a team made up of 12 countries playing a single country. Before all the comments about how large the US is, consider how all these smaller countries compete against the US in all the other sports without teaming up.

How? Not very well mostly.  Except soccer?

[freddi22cl]

6 minutes ago, ChronicSlicer said:

Anne Van Dam has an equally great swing and she can't keep her LPGA card, most people think Lexi has a terrible swing but has 11 wins including a major. 

It takes more than a beautiful swing to get the job done.

 

 yeah Anne aint no Linn Grant..won by 9 a yr ago and has 6 tour wins (LPGA/Euro)......at 24...

Edited September 25, 2023 by freddi22cl

[ChronicSlicer]

52 minutes ago, wobgon said:

I say it every Solheim cup and every Ryder cup so I might as well say it again.....Not sure why anyone gets to excited about a team made up of 12 countries playing a single country. Before all the comments about how large the US is, consider how all these smaller countries compete against the US in all the other sports without teaming up.

I'm under the impression it would be a unfair matchup US -vs- France, or US-vs-Denmark. Is there even 12 professional female golfers from Denmark, or France for that matter?

[jimecherry]

54 minutes ago, Rapidcat said:

 

Cricket.

dont all cricket matches end in a tie several weeks later ;}