Looking for a 230yd club

[mushkie11]

So I carry a 3 wood that I hit roughly 260yds and 4 iron 210-215. I have a 20° hybrid that I hit 240 yds. It’s hot and often find myself playing away from it afraid of it jumping. Would a 21 or 23 ° solve my problem? Not opposed to a driving iron as well. Just trying to figure out the proper loft to fit my gap.

Edited Saturday at 02:53 PM by mushkie11

[AdExec]

That 20* probably spins too low. Try to find a higher spinning 19*-20* hybrid or a 5/7 wood. Maybe the Taylormade tour 6 wood with the weight slid all the way back will hit that number. 

[OnTheBag]

I'm also looking for a 230 yard club.  Unfortunately, I would need to supercharge my driver to obtain it.  

 

Haha.  Just messing with you.  Most of us old guys get real excited about 220 yard drives.

[T626G]

I was hitting my tsr2 5w 230 but my ai smoke 4 hybrid had pretty much the same gapping so I ended up just doing away with the 5w and going 3w then 4hy both ai smoke.

[LukeDonaldsTiger]

Try a 22° or 23° hybrid. Could become your new favorite club quickly. Mine is my secret weapon and my only gripe would be the gap to the 5i, which is bigger than I‘d like. 
I have a New Level NLH-01 which looks sleek, sounds and feels great, is very forgiving and much less hook prone than other hybrids.

I‘ve hit some of my best approach and tee shots with it, and can keep it low into a headwind when needed. Absolute rocket launcher. 

[Ereim]

I went with a 7 wood for that gap.

[Iceman816]

I went with a Titleist U510 3i that has a GD hybrid shaft in it to hit that yardage. Absolutely love it. 

[Jayshaft]

I went with a tsr2 5 hybrid (24*) turned down to (23*) to play at 220-225ish and love it!

 

might be an option for you. Love the height and distance - and fits right in that same gap for me that your looking for!

[jlevitt9]

That’s a challenging spot for sure. I am the same, but for me it’s 220-230. I have a driving iron that you can pull for my cold, dead hands, but I can’t hit it off the deck very well.
 

I do think that when it comes to that sort of distance, people either like Long irons, Fairway Woods, or hybrids. Do you find yourself more comfortable with one over the other? I could make some recommendations but want to see what fits your eye first.
 

[Ajgaguy83]

Given what we know, which isn't a lot (in terms of actual data), I'd recommend a 21 degree Callaway UW. These are very hot, but retain the ability to launch as needed. I can hit shots that launch high and land softly, but I can also keep this club low and add some more distance as needed. I have a Ping 7 wood that I also love, but it's more of a high launch only club which is why the Callaway usually is in the bag (depending on the course).

[BombinJim]

4 hours ago, mushkie11 said:

Would a 21 or 23 ° solve my problem?

You have the right idea. Get a 21 and you’re golden.

[J_Tizzle]

2 hours ago, Ereim said:

I went with a 7 wood for that gap.

 

That was going to be my recommendation.  My brother went driver, lofted down 5w, 7w, 4i and he can hit about any shot he likes with it.

 

For me, my 230 is just my 18.5* hybrid.  Sometimes its hot, sometimes not, but I'm also in the belief that at that distance I'm trying to not necessarily stiff it, but hit a quality shot close to the green and then let my chipping and putting take center stage.  I find the 3h is much more versatile than the 5w or 3i that I've tried to use, as I can do the shots that either of those can do with my 3h, but not the reverse.  The 5w goes high, the 3i goes low, the 3h can do both.  So if you like hybrids I'd say play with the lofts some to find one that fits what you need.  The Titleist hybrid adapters are good because you can adjust the loft without adjusting the face angle (same with Callaway I believe).  

Edited Saturday at 07:14 PM by J_Tizzle

[Cliffy2020]

I’m a low ball, mid-low spin guy so I replaced my 3i with a 7w to fit that gap with more holding power.  
 

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[erock9174]

This is WRX people. That should be a soft 8i. Yeesh 

[jlevitt9]

1 hour ago, J_Tizzle said:

 

That was going to be my recommendation.  My brother went driver, lofted down 5w, 7w, 4i and he can hit about any shot he likes with it.

 

For me, my 230 is just my 18.5* hybrid.  Sometimes its hot, sometimes not, but I'm also in the belief that at that distance I'm trying to not necessarily stiff it, but hit a quality shot close to the green and then let my chipping and putting take center stage.  I find the 3h is much more versatile than the 5w or 3i that I've tried to use, as I can do the shots that either of those can do with my 3h, but not the reverse.  The 5w goes high, the 3i goes low, the 3h can do both.  So if you like hybrids I'd say play with the lofts some to find one that fits what you need.  The Titleist hybrid adapters are good because you can adjust the loft without adjusting the face angle (same with Callaway I believe).  

 

This is good insight. For me, 220-230 is one of 3 things...

 

- Longest Par 3 i'l probably play 

- Second shot into a par 5

- horrible drive on a long par 4, and probably in the rough

 

In all of those instances, I'm not tryin to flag it, I'm trying to get on the green, or close to it, and more importantly, hit a shot that sets me up to get down in 2 more shots. For me, that's a hybrid as I don't have the confidence over a 7 wood, and I can't hit a long iron high enough to stop it near it's pitch mark from that distance. 

[StoutKing]

Probably already been said but buy one of Bryson's 8 irons and call it a day.

[mushkie11]

8 hours ago, AdExec said:

That 20* probably spins too low. Try to find a higher spinning 19*-20* hybrid or a 5/7 wood. Maybe the Taylormade tour 6 wood with the weight slid all the way back will hit that number. 

Ya sorry I should have included it’s a callaway apex pro 20°. Thing is HOT! I do have a Callaway forged ut in 21°. Going to try that tomorrow and see!

[mushkie11]

7 hours ago, Ereim said:

I went with a 7 wood for that gap.

This could be the way! May buy one to try. 

[J_Tizzle]

3 hours ago, jlevitt9 said:

 

This is good insight. For me, 220-230 is one of 3 things...

 

- Longest Par 3 i'l probably play 

- Second shot into a par 5

- horrible drive on a long par 4, and probably in the rough

 

In all of those instances, I'm not tryin to flag it, I'm trying to get on the green, or close to it, and more importantly, hit a shot that sets me up to get down in 2 more shots. For me, that's a hybrid as I don't have the confidence over a 7 wood, and I can't hit a long iron high enough to stop it near it's pitch mark from that distance. 

 

Yep I totally agree.  That 230ish shot is important for me in general.  My course has 2 par 5's I can hit with 230 and 2-3 par 4's where I'll hit it (plus one par 3 if I play the tippy tips).  So I always want something that I have confidence in.  Thats why I cannot get the 5w working, I cannot get the results off the tee, then the 3i I cannot get the results off the ground into the 5s.  The biggest issue I found the answer for was off the tee, I just throw the ball on the ground.  As soon as I try to hit it off a tee it goes to hell.

[mushkie11]

6 hours ago, jlevitt9 said:

That’s a challenging spot for sure. I am the same, but for me it’s 220-230. I have a driving iron that you can pull for my cold, dead hands, but I can’t hit it off the deck very well.
 

I do think that when it comes to that sort of distance, people either like Long irons, Fairway Woods, or hybrids. Do you find yourself more comfortable with one over the other? I could make some recommendations but want to see what fits your eye first.
 

So I have a stock 3 iron callaway cb I have never tried. I also have a callaway 21°  UT I haven’t hit much. Also have a 23° callaway hybrid I can try. I hit the 23° earlier this year and it went the same distance as my 4 iron I felt. I am skeptical to see how this UT works out of the rough and fairways for that matter. Great off a tee for sure 

[hook_or_slice]

11 hours ago, mushkie11 said:

... I have a 20° hybrid that I hit 240 yds. .... Would a 21 or 23 °...

 

Get the 23 in the same model you hit the 20 240.

 

It certainly would be the first thing to try.

[1puttTUT]

Tweener for me...I have a GI 4 iron that goes 220-225 and a 5 wood that goes 235-245. Depends on your game and what you like I guess.

 

Flight/spin and consistency/versatility would be what I'd be looking for to get the most use out of what you're seeking, besides just the perfect distance. 

[aquapig]

7 wood all day for me. 

[epixep]

Just got fit to a Qi10 Tour 5 wood (18 deg) for this yesterday. Carry was 235 with weight back, ~250 with weight forward (Ventus TR Blue 8X). Plan is to play driver, mini, and then 5 wood or 3i depending on set-up. I've played a TSR 18 deg (Ventus TR Red 7X) but felt it was one dimensional (high and spinny, although that could have been the shaft pairing) and didn't conjure much confidence off the tee (great for stopping shots into par 5s though).

 

Good luck!

[AmateurAmateur]

Static loft might be a great recommendation on paper but as for how you adapt to a new club the yardage won’t be as simple as 1° equalling 3 yards. 
I play 2 4 irons for a similar reason. One being my iron set 4 iron and the other is a Srixon ZX Utility which yielded faster ball speeds than my Miura 4 iron at the same loft. Bent it strong to get rid of any massive overlap between the two.

[Rbsiedsc]

On 7/6/2024 at 7:52 AM, mushkie11 said:

So I carry a 3 wood that I hit roughly 260yds and 4 iron 210-215. I have a 20° hybrid that I hit 240 yds. It’s hot and often find myself playing away from it afraid of it jumping. Would a 21 or 23 ° solve my problem? Not opposed to a driving iron as well. Just trying to figure out the proper loft to fit my gap.

My apex uw at 21° when I hit it perfect is my 225-230 club. YMMV. At your speed a more std 7w with a little higher spin would like fit the bill for you. 

[md12]

I’d go with a hybrid that’s more on the iron side of things.  Like tsr3 (instead of tsr2).  Or a Srixon or mizuno utility iron.  

[mattk22]

I love driving irons. I have had a U505 and now have a new HiFli and they are so easy to hit off tee and rough/fairway. They just go straight for me. I highly recommend giving one a try if you can. I go 13.5 mini driver to 19 degree HiFli.  That gap is about 30 yards, if I wanted to fill that I would buy the 2 iron in the HiFli is a second. 

[mushkie11]

Worked with Cole at Callaway Preowned and decided on a Paradym 21° which is adjustable if i need it. Excited to get it and try it out.

[Bye]

On 7/6/2024 at 4:43 PM, AdExec said:

That 20* probably spins too low. Try to find a higher spinning 19*-20* hybrid or a 5/7 wood. Maybe the Taylormade tour 6 wood with the weight slid all the way back will hit that number. 

This

 

my numbers are the same as the OP’s and my 20 degree hybrid fits the 230 number perfectly.