Presidents Cup 2011 Discussion Thread (merged)

[jj9000]

[quote name='poizster' timestamp='1321644394' post='3819133']
I'm rooting for the USA but i'm going to feel bad if Els and Ryo lose again
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Every time Ryo hits the ball into the bunker today I'm going to sing:

"His name is Ryo and he dances on the sand
Just like that river twisting through a dusty land
And when he shines he really shows you all he can
Oh Ryo, Ryo dance across the bunker sand"

[Redman]

[quote name='Vindog' timestamp='1321644461' post='3819139']
[quote name='kjo257' timestamp='1321644183' post='3819121']
[quote name='Redman' timestamp='1321643696' post='3819089']
My whole point is why in the world when you were one of, if not the greatest pressure putter of all time, would you go changing your technique and approach to putting. He clearly was dedicating most of his practice time to ball striking and lost his feel, but that is no reason to go and change technique. He just needed to put the time back in practicing.
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I don't get it either. Tiger was the greatest putter I have ever seen and then he changed putters and changed his stroke. Why would you mess with perfection? Johnny Miller had a great comment yesterday on that really long putt that just missed. Johnny said that those used to go in and he was right, I really think the old Tiger would have made it.
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He claims, as most of us may know, that he wanted to match his putter release point to match up with his full swing release point. Chips too.
One release point for all the swings. Sounds like it makes sense, but hasn't worked out. Putting is so feel and instinct reliant. Seems weird.

but I have 35 putt/round on good days so......
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I guess that may be it, but I have only heard him say that the short game swing and release is to be the same as the full swing. That makes sense as they are similar, but the putter stroke and full swing don't have / need to be anything alike. Maybe he did say the same regarding putting, just saying I have only heard him say it in regards to his chips and pitches. He made that comment last week actually referring only to short game shots.

[ron lefthanded holmes]

[quote name='Maliboothby' timestamp='1321642050' post='3818961']
[quote name='bubbagump' timestamp='1321641730' post='3818937']
Maliboothby you are clogging up this thread. Please chill out.


Presidents Cup 2011
discuss
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Sorry, I will stop responding to illogical noise.
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just stop responding all together will do and then we can talk about the presidents cup again

[stevesnis]

[quote]Johnny Miller had a great comment yesterday on that really long putt that just missed. Johnny said that those used to go in and he was right, I really think the old Tiger would have made it.[/quote]

Johnny just loves to hear himself talk. I thought that comment was ridiculous.

It was like a 30-foot downhill putt on 14-stimped greens with like 10 feet of break in 30 mph winds that missed by like 2 inches and Miller said "The Tiger of old would have made that..." That's ridiculous! Sure the Tiger of old [b]could[/b] have made that, but it's not like that's what made him "the Tiger of old". That's like Jordan missing a half court shot after he came back from his yearlong hiatus with the White Sox and Marvelous Marv Albert saying "the Jordan of old would have made that..."

To me, Tiger's career will look a bit like Jordan's career. Super dominant for a long time, suddenly average for a two year spell (Jordan's baseball debacle and subsequent loss to Orlando in his first year back), and then back to winning championships again when the Bulls won 3 straight in 96, 97, and 98. No one looks at Jordan's last 3 championships and says, "he was a dominant as he was when he was 28" because he changed his style of play to suit him at that stage of his career.

I think Tiger's doing the same thing and will have many more opportunities to win. He's changing his game and it will suit him moving forward.

[Golfnutgalen]

It has started! Check these streams if you don't have TV.
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=132817&part=sports

[jjd975]

Please make some putts today Bubba

[jj9000]

[quote name='Golfnutgalen' timestamp='1321646624' post='3819341']
It has started! Check these streams if you don't have TV.
[url="http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=132817&part=sports"]http://www.wiziwig.t...817&part=sports[/url]
[/quote]

Check out this stream if you don't have TV or a good Internet connection:

[attachment=919709:smoky_mountain_stream1.jpg-w600h4001.jpg]

[Snuxx]

[quote name='Golfnutgalen' timestamp='1321646624' post='3819341']
It has started! Check these streams if you don't have TV.
[url="http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=132817&part=sports"]http://www.wiziwig.t...817&part=sports[/url]
[/quote]

Which one do you stream? There are 8 on there!!!

[Stretch]

[quote name='jj9000' timestamp='1321645194' post='3819185']
[quote name='poizster' timestamp='1321644394' post='3819133']
I'm rooting for the USA but i'm going to feel bad if Els and Ryo lose again
[/quote]

Every time Ryo hits the ball into the bunker today I'm going to sing:

"His name is Ryo and he dances on the sand
Just like that river twisting through a dusty land
And when he shines he really shows you all he can
Oh Ryo, Ryo dance across the bunker sand"
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The sun drips down gettIng heavy behind,
The bounce of his wedge all shadowy line.
The droning comment'ry throbs in time
With his beating heart.

[C. Spackler]

[quote name='stevesnis' timestamp='1321646533' post='3819329']
[quote]Johnny Miller had a great comment yesterday on that really long putt that just missed. Johnny said that those used to go in and he was right, I really think the old Tiger would have made it.[/quote]

Johnny just loves to hear himself talk. I thought that comment was ridiculous.

It was like a 30-foot downhill putt on 14-stimped greens with like 10 feet of break in 30 mph winds that missed by like 2 inches and Miller said "The Tiger of old would have made that..." That's ridiculous! Sure the Tiger of old [b]could[/b] have made that, but it's not like that's what made him "the Tiger of old". That's like Jordan missing a half court shot after he came back from his yearlong hiatus with the White Sox and Marvelous Marv Albert saying "the Jordan of old would have made that..."

To me, Tiger's career will look a bit like Jordan's career. Super dominant for a long time, suddenly average for a two year spell (Jordan's baseball debacle and subsequent loss to Orlando in his first year back), and then back to winning championships again when the Bulls won 3 straight in 96, 97, and 98. No one looks at Jordan's last 3 championships and says, "he was a dominant as he was when he was 28" because he changed his style of play to suit him at that stage of his career.

I think Tiger's doing the same thing and will have many more opportunities to win. He's changing his game and it will suit him moving forward.
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Careful what you say. Some here, found Johnny's comments poignant.

I'm with you, I find him unlistenable and unbearable. Listening to him say how bad a tiger shot from the fairway was, that happened to find a bunker as compared to an even worse shot that DJ would play and listen to him attribute it to the poor conditions. He's the Lou Holtz of golf analysts.

[Vindog]

[quote name='stevesnis' timestamp='1321646533' post='3819329']
[quote]Johnny Miller had a great comment yesterday on that really long putt that just missed. Johnny said that those used to go in and he was right, I really think the old Tiger would have made it.[/quote]

Johnny just loves to hear himself talk. I thought that comment was ridiculous.

It was like a 30-foot downhill putt on 14-stimped greens with like 10 feet of break in 30 mph winds that missed by like 2 inches and Miller said "The Tiger of old would have made that..." That's ridiculous! Sure the Tiger of old [b]could[/b] have made that, but it's not like that's what made him "the Tiger of old". That's like Jordan missing a half court shot after he came back from his yearlong hiatus with the White Sox and Marvelous Marv Albert saying "the Jordan of old would have made that..."

To me, Tiger's career will look a bit like Jordan's career. Super dominant for a long time, suddenly average for a two year spell (Jordan's baseball debacle and subsequent loss to Orlando in his first year back), and then back to winning championships again when the Bulls won 3 straight in 96, 97, and 98. No one looks at Jordan's last 3 championships and says, "he was a dominant as he was when he was 28" because he changed his style of play to suit him at that stage of his career.

I think Tiger's doing the same thing and will have many more opportunities to win. He's changing his game and it will suit him moving forward.
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Statement was true though.

What I got out of it was:

In the past those putts seemed to always drop in there for Tiger, where now those putts aren't dropping in there, instead, they're burning the edges. That's a very subtle difference that makes or breaks a score.

[Golfnutgalen]

[quote name='Snuxx' timestamp='1321647107' post='3819397']
[quote name='Golfnutgalen' timestamp='1321646624' post='3819341']
It has started! Check these streams if you don't have TV.
[url="http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=132817&part=sports"]http://www.wiziwig.t...817&part=sports[/url]
[/quote]

Which one do you stream? There are 8 on there!!!
[/quote]

I'm watching skysports. Click that one then skysports 3 in the selection. Yesterday I found a fox stream with hardly any commercials, but it's not working today.

Go Ryo Ishikawa!!!

[triplebogeyblues]

Get the Greg Norman interviews out of the way early so I don't have to keep looking at that ugly, bitter mug.

[jjd975]

[quote name='C. Spackler' timestamp='1321647150' post='3819405']
[quote name='stevesnis' timestamp='1321646533' post='3819329']
[quote.[/quote]
He's the Lou Holtz of golf analysts.
[/quote]

I cant listen to that man talk. Mush mouth.

[Snuxx]

[quote name='Golfnutgalen' timestamp='1321647323' post='3819417']
[quote name='Snuxx' timestamp='1321647107' post='3819397']
[quote name='Golfnutgalen' timestamp='1321646624' post='3819341']
It has started! Check these streams if you don't have TV.
[url="http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=132817&part=sports"]http://www.wiziwig.t...817&part=sports[/url]
[/quote]

Which one do you stream? There are 8 on there!!!
[/quote]

I'm watching skysports. Click that one then skysports 3 in the selection. Yesterday I found a fox stream with hardly any commercials, but it's not working today.

Go Ryo Ishikawa!!!
[/quote]

You are the man! Thank you!

[Vindog]

[quote name='jjd975' timestamp='1321647467' post='3819429']I cant listen to that man talk. Mush mouth.
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Fighting Iriscsh!!

[jjd975]

I bet Ryo is tired of playing with Ernie. They dont seem like a good match. Nothing against Ernie I just think Ryo would like to play with one of the young guys.

[teejaywhy]

[quote name='jj9000' timestamp='1321647016' post='3819389']

Check out this stream...

[attachment=919709:smoky_mountain_stream1.jpg-w600h4001.jpg]
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Great, now I have to go pee...

[The Grifter]

Tiger seems deflated...not with golf but life.

[jjd975]

Wow. Allenby has missed a bunch of putts past two days. Didnt see him day one.

[Golfnutgalen]

Allenby not doing well early...

[jjd975]

If Tiger makes a birdie putt today he needs to do the Tebow on the next tee.

[DriveIt"N"3Putt]

[quote name='The Grifter' timestamp='1321647776' post='3819465']
Tiger seems deflated...not with golf but life.
[/quote]
? He was just shown laughing with lacava and Phil, yesterday he was watching with Phil and Amy.

[poizster]

Looks like they won't be playing long on Sunday.

[Bob Cat]

[quote name='andef' timestamp='1321571302' post='3815231']
[quote name='avinash' timestamp='1321570214' post='3815161']
Any streams online?
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[url="http://nowwatchtvlive.com/2011/07/watch-live-golf-channel-golf-channel-free-golf-tv-usa-online/"]http://nowwatchtvliv...-tv-usa-online/[/url]
[/quote]

Cricket?

[Golfnutgalen]

Gah! Dustin hits an iron into the rough on the first.

--Nevermind, camera angle was off. no spin for Choi :0

[triplebogeyblues]

Does Dusty ever make a putt of any significance?

[Redman]

[quote name='triplebogeyblues' timestamp='1321649251' post='3819555']
Does Dusty ever make a putt of any significance?
[/quote]

NO

[bscinstnct]

[quote name='tjy355' timestamp='1321647689' post='3819463']
[quote name='jj9000' timestamp='1321647016' post='3819389']
Check out this stream...

[attachment=919709:smoky_mountain_stream1.jpg-w600h4001.jpg]
[/quote]

Great, now I have to go pee...
[/quote]

That's some good stream.

[Bob Cat]

[quote name='Golfnutgalen' timestamp='1321647323' post='3819417']
[quote name='Snuxx' timestamp='1321647107' post='3819397']
[quote name='Golfnutgalen' timestamp='1321646624' post='3819341']
It has started! Check these streams if you don't have TV.
[url="http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=132817&part=sports"]http://www.wiziwig.t...817&part=sports[/url]
[/quote]

Which one do you stream? There are 8 on there!!!
[/quote]

I'm watching skysports. Click that one then skysports 3 in the selection. Yesterday I found a fox stream with hardly any commercials, but it's not working today.

Go Ryo Ishikawa!!!
[/quote]

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