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  • ShankapodShankapod Members  329WRX Points: 69Posts: 329 Greens
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    A little follow up....<br />
    <br />
    Contacted TM and the rep wanted to be helpful, but we weren’t on the same page. He questioned if they were really short. I said I understand his position, but I’ve never had clubs EVER that weren’t longer than standard; even my first handmdown set was +1”<br />
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    I said they feel quite short and when compared to my existing wedges they’re a good 3/4-1” shorter. <br />
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    His only solution was to send them back and wait for new. I expressed how I didn’t like that, as I have waited a while for these, but I understand there is nothing more they can do. He asked “what were you thinking?” And I said if I could take them to a dicks, have them lengthened and then TM credits me the bill. He thought that was an awful idea and only wanted TM to touch the irons. I get his position, but not looking to be without them another week+ when I’m losing out on good golf here in the MW
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  • cvhookem63cvhookem63 Fujikura Ventus Experience ETXClubWRX  4826WRX Points: 496Posts: 4,826 ClubWRX
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    I wonder what wedge model DJ is talking about in this clipping from his presser yesterday<br />
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  • ZurbZurb Smell the Glove Members  224WRX Points: 0Handicap: 2.3Posts: 224
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    Listening to DJ talk is just cringeworthy. I'm a fan of him on the course - but as soon as he opens his mouth it's just dribble. I guess you can't have it all.
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  • JoeJoeJoeUrBoatJoeJoeJoeUrBoat Leamington OntarioMembers  887WRX Points: 179Handicap: 4.9Posts: 887 Golden Tee
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    Love my milled grind wedges. Coming from Vokeys for 3 years straight, these were amazing. Excellent through the rough, amazing spin as well.
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  • BravconBravcon Members  151WRX Points: 41Posts: 151 Fairways
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    cvhookem63 wrote:
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    I wonder what wedge model DJ is talking about in this clipping from his presser yesterday<br />
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    DM_S5LCU8AAkFeg.jpg<br />
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    If they're in play next week, I would assume we'll see some pictures.
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  • cvhookem63cvhookem63 Fujikura Ventus Experience ETXClubWRX  4826WRX Points: 496Posts: 4,826 ClubWRX
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    TaylorMade is now offering custom stamping on wedges https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP<br />
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    NIKE Vapor Fly Pro 3-4 Fujikura Pro 95 Tour Spec X
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    TaylorMade TI MG 46* X100
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  • GC70GC70 What's Next? State of HockeyClubWRX  7898WRX Points: 359Handicap: 7.1Posts: 7,898 Titanium Tees
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    cvhookem63 wrote:
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    TaylorMade is now offering custom stamping on wedges [url=&quot;https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP&quot;]https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP[/url]<br />
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    DNjVMBuUQAAiy00.jpg<br />
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    uhw6vRP.jpg<br />
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    Still no Raw!
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    bhard315 wrote:
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    cgasucks wrote:
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    I wish they would bring back the XFT wedge again, especially the replaceable inserts. They would make long term $$$ from the insert sales alone.<br />
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    Love those wedges. Have both the 58/09 and the 58/12 wedges. S400 shafts in both. Also have 12 total replacement faces. Will be using these wedges for the rest of my golfing life haha.<br />
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    <br />
    Is there anywhere you can still get faces?
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  • tbrumbeloe13tbrumbeloe13 GeorgiaMembers  718WRX Points: 117Handicap: +0.2Posts: 718 Golden Tee
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    GC70 wrote:
    cvhookem63 wrote:
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    TaylorMade is now offering custom stamping on wedges [url=&quot;https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP&quot;]https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP[/url]<br />
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    DNjVMBuUQAAiy00.jpg<br />
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    uhw6vRP.jpg<br />
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    Still no Raw!
    Could you use naval jelly on the bronze?
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  • andrsmilandrsmil Members  10WRX Points: 15Handicap: 11Posts: 10 Bunkers
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    cvhookem63 wrote:
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    TaylorMade is now offering custom stamping on wedges [url=&quot;https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP&quot;]https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP[/url]<br />
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    DNjVMBuUQAAiy00.jpg<br />
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    uhw6vRP.jpg<br />
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    Do you know if this is available in the UK? Tried to ask Taylormade but not got an answer. I’ve just ordered 4 Milled Grind wedges!!
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  • Kale_mKale_m Members  2448WRX Points: 515Posts: 2,448 Platinum Tees
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    For the amount of buying/selling and hoeing that goes on around here I would it suggest this. Just makes it harder to sell
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  • OspreyCIOspreyCI Valley of the SunMembers  5528WRX Points: 503Handicap: 10Posts: 5,528 Titanium Tees
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    Kale_m wrote:
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    For the amount of buying/selling and hoeing that goes on around here I would it suggest this. Just makes it harder to sell<br />
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    NOOOOOO. Don’t stamp anything. Can’t HO it!
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    TM MG2 54*
    TM HT 60*
    PXG Gen2 Gunboat
  • AlmostscratchonceAlmostscratchonce Members  190WRX Points: 75Posts: 190 Fairways
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    Had some shop credit to spend, but all they had was the chrome finish in the loft/lie I was looking for. Has anyone had any luck with a DIY process to strip the chrome for a raw finish, or is this better left to the experts?
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  • LesmondLesmond Members  12166WRX Points: 1,291Posts: 12,166 Titanium Tees
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    Driver: TaylorMade M5 9*
    Fairway: TaylorMade M6 15*
    Fairway: TaylorMade M2 18*
    Irons: Titleist 718 T-MB 4 iron
    Irons: Titleist 718 AP2 5-PW
    Wedges: TaylorMade Hi-Toe 50*
    Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 54*
    Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 60*
    Putter: TaylorMade Spider X

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  • easylittle5woodeasylittle5wood Members  1361WRX Points: 208Posts: 1,361 Platinum Tees
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    48* now available.
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  • Kale_mKale_m Members  2448WRX Points: 515Posts: 2,448 Platinum Tees
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    Gotta get some of that pM grind crowd over to TM....
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    Taylormade Sim 9* (9.75*) Accra tour Z RPG 472 m5+
    Titleist TS3 15* Evenflow White T1100 75g 6.0
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    Anyone else think these are way too clicky and firm feeling? Big miss in my book, but I know they are ridiculously popular.
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYCMembers  2311WRX Points: 353Handicap: ~5Posts: 2,311 Platinum Tees
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    TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.<br />
    <br />
    The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.<br />
    The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.<br />
    The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.<br />
    Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.<br />
    <br />
    I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers. <br />
    <br />
    Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?
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    Taylormade SIM - 9.75* - Tour ADDI 6x
    TaylorMade M5 - 14.25* - Tensei Orange 70x
    Callaway Apex 3h - 20* - Catalyst 80g 6.5
    Mizuno MP20 HMB - 4-PW - TTDG 120x
    Mizuno S18 - 50.07 & 54.08 - TTDG s300
    Callaway PM Grind - 64* - C-Taper 130x
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  • fillwelixfillwelix Boston AreaMembers  1520WRX Points: 377Posts: 1,520 Platinum Tees
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    Mahamilto wrote:
    <br />
    TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.<br />
    <br />
    The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.<br />
    The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.<br />
    The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.<br />
    Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.<br />
    <br />
    I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.<br />
    <br />
    Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    and what's the deal with eminem sampling Zeppelin???? He didn't write When the Levee Breaks!<br />
    <br />
    /s
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYCMembers  2311WRX Points: 353Handicap: ~5Posts: 2,311 Platinum Tees
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    fillwelix wrote:
    <br />
    Mahamilto wrote:
    <br />
    TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.<br />
    <br />
    The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.<br />
    The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.<br />
    The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.<br />
    Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.<br />
    <br />
    I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.<br />
    <br />
    Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    and what's the deal with eminem sampling Zeppelin???? He didn't write When the Levee Breaks!<br />
    <br />
    /s<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Re-hashing something and paying royalties is one thing. Eminem is 100% paying royalties, I doubt PXG, Wilson, or Cally is seeing checks from TM.<br />
    <br />
    I mean look at that hi-toe. Three ports to move weight? Even has the same u-grind...<br />
    <br />
    Nothing is more obvious than that cut away of the 790s though. I know the court ruled against PXG, but they even look identical in every way beside the PXG screws.
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    Taylormade SIM - 9.75* - Tour ADDI 6x
    TaylorMade M5 - 14.25* - Tensei Orange 70x
    Callaway Apex 3h - 20* - Catalyst 80g 6.5
    Mizuno MP20 HMB - 4-PW - TTDG 120x
    Mizuno S18 - 50.07 & 54.08 - TTDG s300
    Callaway PM Grind - 64* - C-Taper 130x
    Scotty Cameron Phantom X 8.5
    Titleist Pro V1x, Bridgestone Tour BX
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
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  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members  32386WRX Points: 1,884Posts: 32,386 Titanium Tees
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    Kale_m wrote:
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    Gotta get some of that pM grind crowd over to TM....<br />
    <br />
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    Smart move by TM.
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    cvhookem63 wrote:
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    Reminds me of transformers. Lol
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    Driver: TaylorMade M5 9*
    Fairway: TaylorMade M6 15*
    Fairway: TaylorMade M2 18*
    Irons: Titleist 718 T-MB 4 iron
    Irons: Titleist 718 AP2 5-PW
    Wedges: TaylorMade Hi-Toe 50*
    Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 54*
    Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 60*
    Putter: TaylorMade Spider X

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  • tbrumbeloe13tbrumbeloe13 GeorgiaMembers  718WRX Points: 117Handicap: +0.2Posts: 718 Golden Tee
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    Mahamilto wrote:
    TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.<br />
    <br />
    The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.<br />
    The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.<br />
    The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.<br />
    Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.<br />
    <br />
    I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers. <br />
    <br />
    Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?
    I don’t have that big of a problem with it. If TM can do it just as good or better, let em. More competition, lower prices, more business...
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  • cvhookem63cvhookem63 Fujikura Ventus Experience ETXClubWRX  4826WRX Points: 496Posts: 4,826 ClubWRX
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    Mahamilto wrote:
    <br />
    TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.<br />
    <br />
    The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.<br />
    The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.<br />
    The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.<br />
    Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.<br />
    <br />
    I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.<br />
    <br />
    Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Well the PM Grind ripped off the Ping Eye 2 wedge, so this seems like a non-issue. Phil was using an Eye 2 wedge (even got blamed for cheating because the grooves didn't conform) so Callaway made him the "PM Grind"<br />
    <br />
    This chain of events is not exclusive to the golf industry. It applies to pretty much every competitive industry. If you can take what your competitor is doing, make it better, and sell it successfully - then go for it. As a consumer you should be applauding this behavior.
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    NIKE Vapor Fly 14* Fujikura Rombax P95X
    NIKE Vapor Fly Pro 3-4 Fujikura Pro 95 Tour Spec X
    TaylorMade P770 5-9 X100
    TaylorMade TI MG 46* X100
    TaylorMade TI MG Raw 50*, 55* S400
    TaylorMade TI MG Hi Toe Raw Face 60* S400
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYCMembers  2311WRX Points: 353Handicap: ~5Posts: 2,311 Platinum Tees
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    Mahamilto wrote:
    TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.<br />
    <br />
    The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.<br />
    The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.<br />
    The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.<br />
    Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.<br />
    <br />
    I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.<br />
    <br />
    Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?
    I don’t have that big of a problem with it. If TM can do it just as good or better, let em. More competition, lower prices, more business...<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    It's not competition when you are just flat ripping someone else off.<br />
    <br />
    And it won't cause competition. It will cause a monopoly. If TM is allowed to let other companies do the leg work and R&D (which costs a lot of money), and then just copy their product, its actually going to run other companies out of business. This is exactly what Edisen did to all his competitors, which led to the generation of all the patent, anti-monopoly, and anti-trust laws.<br />
    <br />
    It is also a business ethics issue. Stealing of intellectual property is a huge problem. And an even bigger problem is that they are allowed to argue "people make golf clubs out of metal and polymers, so its not a copyright infringement" when the product is virtually identical, even down to the shape, dimensions, and details of said design elements.
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    Taylormade SIM - 9.75* - Tour ADDI 6x
    TaylorMade M5 - 14.25* - Tensei Orange 70x
    Callaway Apex 3h - 20* - Catalyst 80g 6.5
    Mizuno MP20 HMB - 4-PW - TTDG 120x
    Mizuno S18 - 50.07 & 54.08 - TTDG s300
    Callaway PM Grind - 64* - C-Taper 130x
    Scotty Cameron Phantom X 8.5
    Titleist Pro V1x, Bridgestone Tour BX
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYCMembers  2311WRX Points: 353Handicap: ~5Posts: 2,311 Platinum Tees
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    cvhookem63 wrote:
    <br />
    Mahamilto wrote:
    <br />
    TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.<br />
    <br />
    The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.<br />
    The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.<br />
    The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.<br />
    Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.<br />
    <br />
    I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.<br />
    <br />
    Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Well the PM Grind ripped off the Ping Eye 2 wedge, so this seems like a non-issue. Phil was using an Eye 2 wedge (even got blamed for cheating because the grooves didn't conform) so Callaway made him the "PM Grind"<br />
    <br />
    This chain of events is not exclusive to the golf industry. It applies to pretty much every competitive industry. If you can take what your competitor is doing, make it better, and sell it successfully - then go for it. As a consumer you should be applauding this behavior.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Patents on that wedge have long since expired. Additionally they went from a cavity back design to a blade. The two were different other than the toe. This is the same minus the size of the 3 cutouts... The P790 is the bigger issue. As is the fact that TM is clearly getting away with stealing design after design.<br />
    <br />
    People liken this to drug patents. Many in the general public feel that drug companies charge too much for drugs, and while this is more or less an accurate statement, if you let generic manufacturers make the identical product immediately, the profitability of making a new drug would disappear. <br />
    <br />
    When something is no longer profitable, nobody does it. If you want the pharmaceutical industry to stop generating new drugs that have better efficacy and less side effects, let the generic companies copy the drugs right away. It would be a surefire way to completely dismantle the industry and halt innovation in its tracts. You don't spend a ton on R&D to not turn a profit.<br />
    <br />
    If TM or other companies are allowed to outright copy other patented products without repercussion, there will be no reward for investing in R&D, companies will fold, and less innovation will be seen.
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    Taylormade SIM - 9.75* - Tour ADDI 6x
    TaylorMade M5 - 14.25* - Tensei Orange 70x
    Callaway Apex 3h - 20* - Catalyst 80g 6.5
    Mizuno MP20 HMB - 4-PW - TTDG 120x
    Mizuno S18 - 50.07 & 54.08 - TTDG s300
    Callaway PM Grind - 64* - C-Taper 130x
    Scotty Cameron Phantom X 8.5
    Titleist Pro V1x, Bridgestone Tour BX
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
  • SheriffBoothSheriffBooth Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods  4522WRX Points: 310Handicap: 2.3Posts: 4,522 Marshals
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    This is a thread about the use and performance of Milled Grind wedges, not about intellectual property theories/disputes. Please stay on topic.
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    Taylormade M6, 9.0*, Hzrdus Smoke 60 S
    Taylormade M5, 15*, Hzrdus Smoke 70 S
    Callaway Apex 19 3H & 4H, Catalyst S
    Taylormade P790 5-PW Recoil 110 F4 +1"
    Taylormade MG 50 Recoil 110 F4 +1"
    Taylormade MG2 56, 60 Recoil 110 F4 +1"
    Taylormade  TP Patina Juno, 35.5"
  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYCMembers  2311WRX Points: 353Handicap: ~5Posts: 2,311 Platinum Tees
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    This is a thread about the use and performance of Milled Grind wedges, not about intellectual property theories/disputes. Please stay on topic.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    You're absolutely right. To that effect I bet they perform a whole lot like the PM cally wedge... just a hunch.
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    Taylormade SIM - 9.75* - Tour ADDI 6x
    TaylorMade M5 - 14.25* - Tensei Orange 70x
    Callaway Apex 3h - 20* - Catalyst 80g 6.5
    Mizuno MP20 HMB - 4-PW - TTDG 120x
    Mizuno S18 - 50.07 & 54.08 - TTDG s300
    Callaway PM Grind - 64* - C-Taper 130x
    Scotty Cameron Phantom X 8.5
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  • bladehunterbladehunter south carolinaMembers  30917WRX Points: 7,193Handicap: NONEPosts: 30,917 Titanium Tees
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    cvhookem63 wrote:
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    Mahamilto wrote:
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    TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.<br />
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    The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.<br />
    The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.<br />
    The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.<br />
    Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.<br />
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    I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.<br />
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    Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?<br />
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    Well the PM Grind ripped off the Ping Eye 2 wedge, so this seems like a non-issue. Phil was using an Eye 2 wedge (even got blamed for cheating because the grooves didn't conform) so Callaway made him the "PM Grind"<br />
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    This chain of events is not exclusive to the golf industry. It applies to pretty much every competitive industry. If you can take what your competitor is doing, make it better, and sell it successfully - then go for it. As a consumer you should be applauding this behavior.<br />
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    Not really. They only similarity is high toe. Pm grind is complete package design other than that. Round leading edge. U grind. Short hosel , weight Ports , full face grooves. Nobody ever combined all that. Pieces yes. But not all that. Eye 2 wishes it were pm grind.<br />
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    To that point I'd love to see the mulled grind faces to see if they have grooves high on the toe. If they don't theyre not going t preform as welll. The pm grind beauty is it takes the hit toe miss common on flops and adds mass behind the ball olus grooves t control it with. Essentially making that shot a non Miss.
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