How involved is your Junior's instructor in his/her overall development?

[kekoa]

I'm just curious.

 

Most, if not all of us see an instructor of some sorts. Although the persistency of lessons may vary from player to player- How involved is your child's coach? For instance:

 

- Do you have one coach for long game, short game, fitness etc?

- Do you check with the coach before making equipment upgrades/changes?

- Does the coach partake in your child's tournament scheduling?

 

Thanks!

 

 

[Noles]

> @kekoa said:

> I'm just curious.

>

> Most, if not all of us see an instructor of some sorts. Although the persistency of lessons may vary from player to player- How involved is your child's coach? For instance:

>

> - Do you have one coach for long game, short game, fitness etc?

> - Do you check with the coach before making equipment upgrades/changes?

> - Does the coach partake in your child's tournament scheduling?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

 

My son has been with the same coach for over 5 years. They have a great relationship. He will often give my son the last appointment of the day so that he can take as much time as he needs to. He is the coach of his swing and short game. My son works with the strength and conditioning coach at his school in the winter. His coach absolutely guides us on all equipment. In fact, the irons that my son is using were given to him by his coach as they were his old set. They were a perfect fit for my son. He does give me advice on which tournaments to enter.

[tiger1873]

Coaches cost a lot of money if you want them do everything. Even if money is no object they do not have enough time.

 

So since resources are not unlimited we seek out the best advice we can that means 3 coaches. Swing, short game and fitness. No one knows all 3 so that is why we have specialists.

 

As for equipment, tournaments and anything else I don’t send them to IMG and have to pay for everything so at the end of day I end up doing almost everything like everyone else because if I didn’t then my kid would not be playing golf.

[leezer99]

I'm not sure where you're going with this thread but coaching should help with all aspects in my opinion. Reminds me of this quote:

 

"Learning from mistakes is one of the best ways to learn, there's no reason they have to be your own."

 

[BloctonGolf11]

My son has been seeing the same instructor for over two years and they have formed a very good bond and relationship. If it has to do with his swing in anyway he handles it.

 

I typically do not consult him on equipment changes but if there is an issue we talk about it. However, in two years I have made very few changes.

 

He gives his input but overall we are more relaxed on his tournament schedule.

[kekoa]

> @leezer99 said:

> I'm not sure where you're going with this thread but coaching should help with all aspects in my opinion. Reminds me of this quote:

>

> "Learning from mistakes is one of the best ways to learn, there's no reason they have to be your own."

>

 

I've just had some conversations with other golf dads and I never knew instructors were so territorial regarding certain issues. For instance, one coach got seriously pissed because the kid went to see a putting coach outside of the normal swing coach without giving him a heads up. In another instance, a coach got irritated because the parent got the kids set extended without consulting first. It just seems like there are so many unwritten rules/protocal with coaches and jr. golf. I guess this is all a part of getting to know each other just like any other relationship.

[TripleBogeysrbetter]

> @kekoa said:

> I'm just curious.

>

> Most, if not all of us see an instructor of some sorts. Although the persistency of lessons may vary from player to player- How involved is your child's coach? For instance:

>

> - Do you have one coach for long game, short game, fitness etc?

> - Do you check with the coach before making equipment upgrades/changes?

> - Does the coach partake in your child's tournament scheduling?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

 

Same coach since the first lesson 2 1/2 years ago. My son was 13ish and he asked him what do you shoot. He said about 120 on a good day.

 

He and my son have a great bond.

Do you have one coach for long game, short game, fitness etc?

Answer: Long and short game. Fitness my oldest son is a Kinesiology major. He asks him for direction.

Do you check with the coach before making equipment upgrades/changes?

Answer: We have a long time fitter we trust. He does all the grips, lies, loft adjustments, etc

Does the coach partake in your child's tournament scheduling:

Son and I draft a schedule about December / January then run it by him for thoughts.

 

 

[heavy_hitter]

On his 5th Coach and finally satisfied with what he has. Guy at our home course that I didn't want to use because I didn't want to crap where I ate. If it didn't work out I didn't want there to be bad blood. It is working out tremendously right now. Been with him about 4 months. He is full swing, putting, mental, and fitness all into one. Comes to the house once a week every week to work on fitness. TRX training is awesome. Meets with him about every other week for swing/putting. When he needs him he is on call if something is wrong. All around great fit and their personalities are a lot a like. He has Sam Putt Lab and Flight Scope. Was on the Sam yesterday and took putter in for him today to get adjusted. Yes, he helps with equipment when asked. He doesn't pick tournaments, but is in the decision making process.

[TripleBogeysrbetter]

> @heavy_hitter said:

> On his 5th Coach and finally satisfied with what he has. Guy at our home course that I didn't want to use because I didn't want to crap where I ate. If it didn't work out I didn't want there to be bad blood. It is working out tremendously right now. Been with him about 4 months. He is full swing, putting, mental, and fitness all into one. Comes to the house once a week every week to work on fitness. TRX training is awesome. Meets with him about every other week for swing/putting. When he needs him he is on call if something is wrong. All around great fit and their personalities are a lot a like. He has Sam Putt Lab and Flight Scope. Was on the Sam yesterday and took putter in for him today to get adjusted. Yes, he helps with equipment when asked. He doesn't pick tournaments, but is in the decision making process.

 

Are you seeing huge benefits from the Sam Putt Lab? Talked to my son but doesn't seem interested.

[tiger1873]

> @leezer99 said:

> I'm not sure where you're going with this thread but coaching should help with all aspects in my opinion. Reminds me of this quote:

>

> "Learning from mistakes is one of the best ways to learn, there's no reason they have to be your own."

>

 

> @TripleBogeysrbetter said:

> > @kekoa said:

> > I'm just curious.

> >

> > Most, if not all of us see an instructor of some sorts. Although the persistency of lessons may vary from player to player- How involved is your child's coach? For instance:

> >

> > - Do you have one coach for long game, short game, fitness etc?

> > - Do you check with the coach before making equipment upgrades/changes?

> > - Does the coach partake in your child's tournament scheduling?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

>

> Same coach since the first lesson 2 1/2 years ago. My son was 13ish and he asked him what do you shoot. He said about 120 on a good day.

>

 

This sounds a lot like my first coach That we stuck with for about 2 years. I wish I didn’t use them now at the time I thought he was a great coach. If they can’t break 80 you asking for trouble.

 

I am still paying money for the mistakes that bozo did. We got recommended to a a great Coach now and pretty much everything that first guy taught was wrong and contradicts the old coach we first had. New coach is well proven in amature and professional golf so confident he knows what he is talking about. He also doesn’t hand hold us like first guy either. With latest coach we are starting to see huge results but first guy cost us a lot.

 

The thing is everyone thinks they have a great coach but unless you know they get results and you see results be very very skeptical.

 

 

[wildcatden]

 

 

* **Do you have one coach for long game, short game, fitness etc?**

We just started seeing a swing coach to fix some swing faults since my junior's growth spurt this fall. This coach will be doing full swing and short game. Our fitness routine is just staying active in many sports (baseball, basketball, golf, biking, hiking, skiing, etc...).

 

 

* **Do you check with the coach before making equipment upgrades/changes?**

No input from a coach. With clubs, iron selection ismore or less predetermined for us at this time by USKidsGolf as we will move to TS3-54 irons around Christmas. Maybe when he hits 57" tall we will look at an OEM set of irons. Driver is OEM (Cobra Fly-Z+) with Cobra junior shaft. Putter is Ping Karsten TR Anser 5 (face-balanced) for SBST stroke. We also use a Never Compromise Stubby putter for training.

 

 

* **Does the coach partake in your child's tournament scheduling?**

No

 

 

 

[heavy_hitter]

> @TripleBogeysrbetter said:

> > @heavy_hitter said:

> > On his 5th Coach and finally satisfied with what he has. Guy at our home course that I didn't want to use because I didn't want to crap where I ate. If it didn't work out I didn't want there to be bad blood. It is working out tremendously right now. Been with him about 4 months. He is full swing, putting, mental, and fitness all into one. Comes to the house once a week every week to work on fitness. TRX training is awesome. Meets with him about every other week for swing/putting. When he needs him he is on call if something is wrong. All around great fit and their personalities are a lot a like. He has Sam Putt Lab and Flight Scope. Was on the Sam yesterday and took putter in for him today to get adjusted. Yes, he helps with equipment when asked. He doesn't pick tournaments, but is in the decision making process.

>

> Are you seeing huge benefits from the Sam Putt Lab? Talked to my son but doesn't seem interested.

 

Yes Sir. He was missing putts because of his stroke. Have had to adjust the loft and lie twice now as his stroke has gotten better. He still doesn't make as many as he should, but I think that is right around the corner. Sam Putt Lab gives you everything you need to put the right roll on the ball with the correct stroke. I really like the his new coach because of the technology. The numbers don't lie.

[leezer99]

> @kekoa said:

> > @leezer99 said:

> > I'm not sure where you're going with this thread but coaching should help with all aspects in my opinion. Reminds me of this quote:

> >

> > "Learning from mistakes is one of the best ways to learn, there's no reason they have to be your own."

> >

>

> I've just had some conversations with other golf dads and I never knew instructors were so territorial regarding certain issues. For instance, one coach got seriously pissed because the kid went to see a putting coach outside of the normal swing coach without giving him a heads up. In another instance, a coach got irritated because the parent got the kids set extended without consulting first. It just seems like there are so many unwritten rules/protocal with coaches and jr. golf. I guess this is all a part of getting to know each other just like any other relationship.

 

I could see that happening but to me it just says that the coach has some insecurity issues. I mean, you're basically saying, 'you're good enough to teach him how to swing a club but not good enough to teach him to putt'.

 

Our coach has been doing this long enough to know that students come and go and it's like water off a ducks back... he just fills the slot with any number of other people that are looking to get better.

 

[heavy_hitter]

> @leezer99 said:

> > @kekoa said:

> > > @leezer99 said:

> > > I'm not sure where you're going with this thread but coaching should help with all aspects in my opinion. Reminds me of this quote:

> > >

> > > "Learning from mistakes is one of the best ways to learn, there's no reason they have to be your own."

> > >

> >

> > I've just had some conversations with other golf dads and I never knew instructors were so territorial regarding certain issues. For instance, one coach got seriously pissed because the kid went to see a putting coach outside of the normal swing coach without giving him a heads up. In another instance, a coach got irritated because the parent got the kids set extended without consulting first. It just seems like there are so many unwritten rules/protocal with coaches and jr. golf. I guess this is all a part of getting to know each other just like any other relationship.

>

> I could see that happening but to me it just says that the coach has some insecurity issues. I mean, you're basically saying, 'you're good enough to teach him how to swing a club but not good enough to teach him to putt'.

>

> Our coach has been doing this long enough to know that students come and go and it's like water off a ducks back... he just fills the slot with any number of other people that are looking to get better.

>

 

Best Coach my daughter ever had just taught her how to play. She got injured with her swing and he said, "She needs a swing change. I am not a swing coach so you will need to find someone to change it."

[tiger1873]

> @heavy_hitter said:

> > @leezer99 said:

> > > @kekoa said:

> > > > @leezer99 said:

> > > > I'm not sure where you're going with this thread but coaching should help with all aspects in my opinion. Reminds me of this quote:

> > > >

> > > > "Learning from mistakes is one of the best ways to learn, there's no reason they have to be your own."

> > > >

> > >

> > > I've just had some conversations with other golf dads and I never knew instructors were so territorial regarding certain issues. For instance, one coach got seriously pissed because the kid went to see a putting coach outside of the normal swing coach without giving him a heads up. In another instance, a coach got irritated because the parent got the kids set extended without consulting first. It just seems like there are so many unwritten rules/protocal with coaches and jr. golf. I guess this is all a part of getting to know each other just like any other relationship.

> >

> > I could see that happening but to me it just says that the coach has some insecurity issues. I mean, you're basically saying, 'you're good enough to teach him how to swing a club but not good enough to teach him to putt'.

> >

> > Our coach has been doing this long enough to know that students come and go and it's like water off a ducks back... he just fills the slot with any number of other people that are looking to get better.

> >

>

> Best Coach my daughter ever had just taught her how to play. She got injured with her swing and he said, "She needs a swing change. I am not a swing coach so you will need to find someone to change it."

 

I have to agree these guys are coaches who know how to score low. They teach you how to get it in the hole. Most people see swing coaches who teach you how to hit a ball strait on the range.There not always the same people.

[hangontight]

This is why programs like the Sea Island Player Development Program (PDP) and Matt Walters new Winter Deal seem so attractive. Got a guy for everything, all part of a team that works together- swing, short game/putting specialist, mental, physical TPI. Sure you can build this separate, but how nice does a one stop shop sound where everyone is literally on the same team so you don’t have to worry about swing coach being on same page as short game guy, etc. I think a lot of coaches have this network, but good on these guys for formalizing it and advertising it- it’s sure looks good to a potential player or parent.

[golfer55082]

 

I love Sam Putt Lab too. It can help get the putting fundamentals right which is crucial for all putts. But it’s a very expensive device and I wish there is an affordable poor man’s version that I could have one at home.

 

> @heavy_hitter said:

> > @TripleBogeysrbetter said:

> > > @heavy_hitter said:

> > > On his 5th Coach and finally satisfied with what he has. Guy at our home course that I didn't want to use because I didn't want to crap where I ate. If it didn't work out I didn't want there to be bad blood. It is working out tremendously right now. Been with him about 4 months. He is full swing, putting, mental, and fitness all into one. Comes to the house once a week every week to work on fitness. TRX training is awesome. Meets with him about every other week for swing/putting. When he needs him he is on call if something is wrong. All around great fit and their personalities are a lot a like. He has Sam Putt Lab and Flight Scope. Was on the Sam yesterday and took putter in for him today to get adjusted. Yes, he helps with equipment when asked. He doesn't pick tournaments, but is in the decision making process.

> >

> > Are you seeing huge benefits from the Sam Putt Lab? Talked to my son but doesn't seem interested.

>

> Yes Sir. He was missing putts because of his stroke. Have had to adjust the loft and lie twice now as his stroke has gotten better. He still doesn't make as many as he should, but I think that is right around the corner. Sam Putt Lab gives you everything you need to put the right roll on the ball with the correct stroke. I really like the his new coach because of the technology. The numbers don't lie.

 

 

[leezer99]

Blast motion

[tiger1873]

> @hangontight said:

> This is why programs like the Sea Island Player Development Program (PDP) and Matt Walters new Winter Deal seem so attractive. Got a guy for everything, all part of a team that works together- swing, short game/putting specialist, mental, physical TPI. Sure you can build this separate, but how nice does a one stop shop sound where everyone is literally on the same team so you don’t have to worry about swing coach being on same page as short game guy, etc. I think a lot of coaches have this network, but good on these guys for formalizing it and advertising it- it’s sure looks good to a potential player or parent.

 

 

I am not sure an all in one program really works. I can't comment on this particular program but there usually have problems of being overly structured. We played with a lot kids from academies especially IMG where they do everything for there students. A lot countries have sports programs that pay for these kids and they send them to these programs.. It sounds like a huge advantage but after talking to those kids they get very little free time to go out and just learn how to play. A lot them think the schools hurt more than help.

 

These countries play 80-90k per kid to excellence at golf and they end up with clubs that are poorly fit and the kids learn horrible course management. The instructors also are not really as good and not what I would call great.. Some kids that go these places are good but it's not because they went to an academy most of these programs are a money grab.

[TripleBogeysrbetter]

> @tiger1873 said:

> I am not sure an all in one program really works. I can't comment on this particular program but there usually have problems of being overly structured. We played with a lot kids from academies especially IMG where they do everything for there students. A lot countries have sports programs that pay for these kids and they send them to these programs.. It sounds like a huge advantage but after talking to those kids they get very little free time to go out and just learn how to play. A lot them think the schools hurt more than help.

>

> These countries play 80-90k per kid to excellence at golf and they end up with clubs that are poorly fit and the kids learn horrible course management. The instructors also are not really as good and not what I would call great.. Some kids that go these places are good but it's not because they went to an academy most of these programs are a money grab.

 

Agree. I think these academies are a bad idea. I can see if your a prep school or something and need to work on your game before college. Or you want to raise your college stock. I dont see the benefit of a 12 year being fed golf 24x7. Might work for 1 kid. I'm sure the others will be burnt out.

[hangontight]

> @tiger1873 said:

> > @hangontight said:

> > This is why programs like the Sea Island Player Development Program (PDP) and Matt Walters new Winter Deal seem so attractive. Got a guy for everything, all part of a team that works together- swing, short game/putting specialist, mental, physical TPI. Sure you can build this separate, but how nice does a one stop shop sound where everyone is literally on the same team so you don’t have to worry about swing coach being on same page as short game guy, etc. I think a lot of coaches have this network, but good on these guys for formalizing it and advertising it- it’s sure looks good to a potential player or parent.

>

>

> I am not sure an all in one program really works. I can't comment on this particular program but there usually have problems of being overly structured. We played with a lot kids from academies especially IMG where they do everything for there students. A lot countries have sports programs that pay for these kids and they send them to these programs.. It sounds like a huge advantage but after talking to those kids they get very little free time to go out and just learn how to play. A lot them think the schools hurt more than help.

>

> These countries play 80-90k per kid to excellence at golf and they end up with clubs that are poorly fit and the kids learn horrible course management. The instructors also are not really as good and not what I would call great.. Some kids that go these places are good but it's not because they went to an academy most of these programs are a money grab.

 

Wow- lots of extra commentary there. Not talking about an academy.

[tiger1873]

> @hangontight said:

> > @tiger1873 said:

> > > @hangontight said:

> > > This is why programs like the Sea Island Player Development Program (PDP) and Matt Walters new Winter Deal seem so attractive. Got a guy for everything, all part of a team that works together- swing, short game/putting specialist, mental, physical TPI. Sure you can build this separate, but how nice does a one stop shop sound where everyone is literally on the same team so you don’t have to worry about swing coach being on same page as short game guy, etc. I think a lot of coaches have this network, but good on these guys for formalizing it and advertising it- it’s sure looks good to a potential player or parent.

> >

> >

> > I am not sure an all in one program really works. I can't comment on this particular program but there usually have problems of being overly structured. We played with a lot kids from academies especially IMG where they do everything for there students. A lot countries have sports programs that pay for these kids and they send them to these programs.. It sounds like a huge advantage but after talking to those kids they get very little free time to go out and just learn how to play. A lot them think the schools hurt more than help.

> >

> > These countries play 80-90k per kid to excellence at golf and they end up with clubs that are poorly fit and the kids learn horrible course management. The instructors also are not really as good and not what I would call great.. Some kids that go these places are good but it's not because they went to an academy most of these programs are a money grab.

>

> Wow- lots of extra commentary there. Not talking about an academy.

 

I brought up about the academy because in theory there the best place you get instruction. There the ultimate one stop shop. Lots of foreign students tend these academies. The foreign countries all have national sports programs and money is no object for these kids. It's not just foreign kids but also some people pay a fortune for their kids to learn there.

 

Junior academies are very similar lots promise but not always that good. I never seen group lessons work as well private. Now if you got a local pro or teacher and they do everything for you that is different. But unless you seeking advice from multiple sources in 99.9% losing out in one part of the game and I don't care who your instructor is.

[heavy_hitter]

> @leezer99 said:

> Blast motion

 

No. It doesn't tell you about the stroke at all. Wish I would have never had bought it.

[hangontight]

> @tiger1873 said:

> > @hangontight said:

> > > @tiger1873 said:

> > > > @hangontight said:

> > > > This is why programs like the Sea Island Player Development Program (PDP) and Matt Walters new Winter Deal seem so attractive. Got a guy for everything, all part of a team that works together- swing, short game/putting specialist, mental, physical TPI. Sure you can build this separate, but how nice does a one stop shop sound where everyone is literally on the same team so you don’t have to worry about swing coach being on same page as short game guy, etc. I think a lot of coaches have this network, but good on these guys for formalizing it and advertising it- it’s sure looks good to a potential player or parent.

> > >

> > >

> > > I am not sure an all in one program really works. I can't comment on this particular program but there usually have problems of being overly structured. We played with a lot kids from academies especially IMG where they do everything for there students. A lot countries have sports programs that pay for these kids and they send them to these programs.. It sounds like a huge advantage but after talking to those kids they get very little free time to go out and just learn how to play. A lot them think the schools hurt more than help.

> > >

> > > These countries play 80-90k per kid to excellence at golf and they end up with clubs that are poorly fit and the kids learn horrible course management. The instructors also are not really as good and not what I would call great.. Some kids that go these places are good but it's not because they went to an academy most of these programs are a money grab.

> >

> > Wow- lots of extra commentary there. Not talking about an academy.

>

> I brought up about the academy because in theory there the best place you get instruction. There the ultimate one stop shop. Lots of foreign students tend these academies. The foreign countries all have national sports programs and money is no object for these kids. It's not just foreign kids but also some people pay a fortune for their kids to learn there.

>

> Junior academies are very similar lots promise but not always that good. I never seen group lessons work as well private. Now if you got a local pro or teacher and they do everything for you that is different. But unless you seeking advice from multiple sources in 99.9% losing out in one part of the game and I don't care who your instructor is.

 

I understand, but, not surprisingly, the thread has gone off topic.

[wildcatden]

> @hangontight said:

> > @tiger1873 said:

> > > @hangontight said:

> > > > @tiger1873 said:

> > > > > @hangontight said:

> > > > > This is why programs like the Sea Island Player Development Program (PDP) and Matt Walters new Winter Deal seem so attractive. Got a guy for everything, all part of a team that works together- swing, short game/putting specialist, mental, physical TPI. Sure you can build this separate, but how nice does a one stop shop sound where everyone is literally on the same team so you don’t have to worry about swing coach being on same page as short game guy, etc. I think a lot of coaches have this network, but good on these guys for formalizing it and advertising it- it’s sure looks good to a potential player or parent.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am not sure an all in one program really works. I can't comment on this particular program but there usually have problems of being overly structured. We played with a lot kids from academies especially IMG where they do everything for there students. A lot countries have sports programs that pay for these kids and they send them to these programs.. It sounds like a huge advantage but after talking to those kids they get very little free time to go out and just learn how to play. A lot them think the schools hurt more than help.

> > > >

> > > > These countries play 80-90k per kid to excellence at golf and they end up with clubs that are poorly fit and the kids learn horrible course management. The instructors also are not really as good and not what I would call great.. Some kids that go these places are good but it's not because they went to an academy most of these programs are a money grab.

> > >

> > > Wow- lots of extra commentary there. Not talking about an academy.

> >

> > I brought up about the academy because in theory there the best place you get instruction. There the ultimate one stop shop. Lots of foreign students tend these academies. The foreign countries all have national sports programs and money is no object for these kids. It's not just foreign kids but also some people pay a fortune for their kids to learn there.

> >

> > Junior academies are very similar lots promise but not always that good. I never seen group lessons work as well private. Now if you got a local pro or teacher and they do everything for you that is different. But unless you seeking advice from multiple sources in 99.9% losing out in one part of the game and I don't care who your instructor is.

>

> I understand, but, not surprisingly, the thread has gone off topic.

 

 

 

[darter79]

Coaches should coach and be involved in the process to a point. Ours in pretty involved I do ask her opinion on matters of equipment but don't always listen as she is a rep for an OEM so she paid to promote their gear, but also gives some away to us. That being said I do have a lot of trust with her as she been coaching my kid for a 18 months give or take. Just recently we saw her and she wanted her to go with steel uskg as all the numbers were better then graphite ones. If you have a good relationship with your coach you can use them for various parts. In terms of tournament schedule I do discuss bigger events with her and as we go to more 18 hole events I can see this becoming a bigger role, but with it being 9 hole we pick the schedule around everything else.

[mattwalterpga]

A lot of interesting comments in here regarding a coaches involvement. As a coach myself here's what I find....

 

A great coach knows what he does well but should also know where he is limited. I am dangerous at at lot of aspects that are involved with golf. That said if I don't have an answer immediately that night is usually taken up but going to my close group of experts in that given area getting the right information. Hence why for my winter program I've involved a strength and conditioning coach as well as a mental coach. They provide extra value to what I can do for my junior golfers. I don't see it as a weakness to myself as a coach I see it as an asset to have these other coaches willing to formulate a team. Head football coaches don't coach the whole team but the oversee all the coaches who oversees the players.

 

As far as involvement from the coach with "extra time" and things like that. From what I've seen it's the lack of communication that typically leads to parents feeling like they're not getting the most out of their coach. I teach over 50 kids. I don't have the time to check in with every kid everyday to see how they are doing. However, the parents that reach out and keep me informed and ask questions and communicate will always get a response. I may not always be the fastest at answering but I will return questions eventually. I just started using an app called CoachNow which is suppose to help facilitate this line of communication. But as the quote goes " you can lead a horse to water...." Never ceases to amaze me how many people won't take the time to do the extra leg work on their side before blaming a coach. I had 14 kids in last winter program. Only 1 kid actually followed through with all the material I gave them....

 

So long answer short. It goes back to the player. The more they show (not tell) they want it to the coach, the more the coach knows they want, the more willing a coach usually is to go out of their way for them.

[kekoa]

Very informative Matt. Always nice hearing it from an actual coach- thanks!

[mattwalterpga]

> @kekoa said:

> Very informative Matt. Always nice hearing it from an actual coach- thanks!

 

Glad to help!