best epoxy for club building?

[jonn443]

Hi guys, funds are getting tight so I was looking to start doing some work myself. I have three shafts I want to install Nike flexloft adapters on to. What is the best yet affordable epoxy to use, golfworks? What are you using?

 

Thanks Guys!!!!

[dunn]

Black stuff from golfsmith or golfworks is really good...24 hr but can add heat to it to set it off quicker...5-10 minute is ok but lots o problems with it....mainly ferrules wont stay put...few heads have worked loose....not with black stuff though....

[poppman2142]

3m dp810.

[Spoon]

i use a japanese brand that is used for radio controlled cars
and models. its fast acting and dries in 5 mins.
most builders in japan use this stuff as there is no curing time
other than the initial 5 mins

[Froth]

Epoxy is a touchy subject for some, some believe you should only use a golf specific epoxy and others believe that is nonsense. Everyone is entitled to do things their own way, so more power to em.

Personally I use Permatex products, generally available in most auto parts stores. For Metal to metal, I use Permatex Multi-Metal 4min - it cures very quickly, is very thick/doesn't sag and as an added bonus has very small particles of metal mixed into it which helps in both centering the shaft and removing a head after it is installed with this epoxy, since the metal particles heat up and sort of spread out the heat to the rest of the epoxy the bond breaks very quick, it is also a 4500psi tensile strength epoxy which is quite substantial. For graphite to metal I use the Permatex 30min high strength clear, I use it mostly because it has a low release temperature that is under 200°F, this ensures any graphite shaft I remove that was installed with it will not need to be "over heated" to break the epoxy bond and possibly also damage the resins that hold the shaft together, it has a 3500psi tensile strength which is also more than sufficient.

I've used lots of different epoxy trying to find the ones I prefer most, which are currently the Permatex products due to ease of availability and they also fit the application I'm using them for. There are a lot of good epoxies out there, you should also remember that 90% of the work getting the best possible bond is proper prep and proper mixing.

[LinkLow]

Tour van epoxy from Golfsmith. Sets up crazy fast

[BlakeBstone]

Gorilla glue 2 part epoxy. Can be found at Walmart. High sheer strength and breaks down at 180-200° have used it for years. Great stuff

[CMUgol4]

Devcon Titanium - can find it at OSH. Much cheaper than others adn works really well

[pmcuk]

I'm in the UK and the easiest available choice in most outlets is Araldite Standard - either in the twin tube or separate tubes. I get good results - holds well, easy to remove a head when you need to. I mix it well - like a minute - and I wait a full day or more before using the club, plus leave it to dry in the warmest place I can. Should be available in many countries. It's been recommended in other threads and has the right kind of breakdown temperature.

[johnnythunders]

Golfworks, golfworks, golfworks. Old school 24 hour dry only been using since the 80's never an issue.

[todd.ashford]

If you're on a budget and need it fast, JB Weld works pretty good but I've never tried to re-heat it and remove a club head once it's on.

[wayne18]

[quote name='johnnythunders' timestamp='1393532587' post='8759790']
Golfworks, golfworks, golfworks. Old school 24 hour dry only been using since the 80's never an issue.
[/quote]

Agree, only 15 yrs for me though with no issues.

[RGrinn13]

I've always used Golfworks brand Tour Set Epoxy and have never had any issues.

[ws6]

You will get lots of opinions on epoxy, but if you are new to club work please take the time to prep.

Prep the shaft, take a wire brush inside the adapter, then use a q-tip dipped in solvent (rubbing alcohol and acetone work) inside the adapter and on the shaft to make sure they are clean. Then break out the epoxy. After you glue the adapter to the shaft let it cure in a warm place, I use a small hot box.

[jwo]

I use Brampton 5/10 with Golfsmith shafting beads. I've read where this is a 24 hour epoxy with a fast cure agent. Never had an issue but once you set it you cannot move it again. Brampton website says this is how most failures occur. I also have used the 24hr Golfsmith black stuff with good results.

The Permatex products sound promising though just from ease of getting them at your local auto parts store. I like that.

[Ricky Ross]

[quote name='poppman2142' timestamp='1393483860' post='8755974']
3m dp810.
[/quote]

This stuff is awesome.

[Ranchobob]

FWIW, put me on the Golfworks bandwagon.

I previously used Golfsmith brand, but you "had" to add blackening to it and the Golfworks stuff comes already with it--dries black.

I do use shafting beads (http://www.golfworks.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_GW0043_A_The+GolfWorks+Glass+Shafting+Beads_A_c2p_E_cs), but it's optional. That tin of them will last most of us a lifetime. You only need a little bit.

Good luck and have fun!

[chipaputt]

Golfworks Maximum Strength Tour Set Plus is the best I have ever used. Sets in 30 minutes. Can be hit in 90 minutes. I like buying the 4oz tubes. Keep warm during cure. This epoxy is specifically made for steel and graphite shafts. Some of the other epoxies mentioned are strong but do not have the correct elasticity for Golf clubs.

[super20dan]

golfworks for me too. i would never use a glue not approved for golf. you are just asking to get sued.

[Skeeter]

Golfsmith 30/60 is all I use. Black in color. Enough working time for iron sets but only an hour for cure.

[4Wedges]

Wait...didn't we already have the epoxy thread for February?

[dcr147]

[quote name='Froth' timestamp='1393486829' post='8756068']
Epoxy is a touchy subject for some, some believe you should only use a golf specific epoxy and others believe that is nonsense. Everyone is entitled to do things their own way, so more power to em.

Personally I use Permatex products, generally available in most auto parts stores. For Metal to metal, I use Permatex Multi-Metal 4min - it cures very quickly, is very thick/doesn't sag and as an added bonus has very small particles of metal mixed into it which helps in both centering the shaft and removing a head after it is installed with this epoxy, since the metal particles heat up and sort of spread out the heat to the rest of the epoxy the bond breaks very quick, it is also a 4500psi tensile strength epoxy which is quite substantial. For graphite to metal I use the Permatex 30min high strength clear, I use it mostly because it has a low release temperature that is under 200°F, this ensures any graphite shaft I remove that was installed with it will not need to be "over heated" to break the epoxy bond and possibly also damage the resins that hold the shaft together, it has a 3500psi tensile strength which is also more than sufficient.

I've used lots of different epoxy trying to find the ones I prefer most, which are currently the Permatex products due to ease of availability and they also fit the application I'm using them for. There are a lot of good epoxies out there, you should also remember that 90% of the work getting the best possible bond is proper prep and proper mixing.
[/quote]I use the JB Weld products that can be found in hardware stores or Walmart.

[Manz60]

stick with golfclub specific epoxy (any thing from Wishon,golfworks, golfsmith, Mitchell). They've all been tested by the supplier extensively for their purpose and withstood the test of time.
M60

[High Draw]

[quote name='Ranchobob' timestamp='1393562581' post='8763034']
FWIW, put me on the Golfworks bandwagon.

I previously used Golfsmith brand, but you "had" to add blackening to it and the Golfworks stuff comes already with it--dries black.

I do use shafting beads ([url="http://www.golfworks.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_GW0043_A_The+GolfWorks+Glass+Shafting+Beads_A_c2p_E_cs"]http://www.golfworks...eads_A_c2p_E_cs[/url]), but it's optional. That tin of them will last most of us a lifetime. You only need a little bit.

Good luck and have fun!
[/quote]

Agreed! Use whatever epoxy you want, but I would also use shafting beads.

[wayne18]

[quote name='High Draw' timestamp='1393641973' post='8768946']
[quote name='Ranchobob' timestamp='1393562581' post='8763034']
FWIW, put me on the Golfworks bandwagon.

I previously used Golfsmith brand, but you "had" to add blackening to it and the Golfworks stuff comes already with it--dries black.

I do use shafting beads ([url="http://www.golfworks.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_GW0043_A_The+GolfWorks+Glass+Shafting+Beads_A_c2p_E_cs"]http://www.golfworks...eads_A_c2p_E_cs[/url]), but it's optional. That tin of them will last most of us a lifetime. You only need a little bit.

Good luck and have fun!
[/quote]

Agreed! Use whatever epoxy you want, but I would also use shafting beads.
[/quote]
Also use beads, not too much though. Seems like I've had this last container forever.

[VA_Astra]

All these people talking about golfsmith and golfworks and gorilla glue....wow.

Mitchell Golf Quick Cure 510...Build a club and take it to the course. Never had a head pop lose with this, easy to use, awesome stuff!

http://www.mitchellgolf.com/1.7oz.-Gun-and-4-510-Quick-Cure-Cartridges.html

More expensive than others listed above, but the 510 and 2020 slow cure stuff is the best on the market. I build more clubs than I can count each year and since switching to this stuff it has never let me down. I never used the gorilla glue, well at least on clubs but it works great for wood projects....

So many people try to become club builders on the cheap.....and some things you cant skimp on.

[Nessism]

My favorite is 3M DP460.

[Ranchobob]

[quote name='4Wedges' timestamp='1393619087' post='8766622']
Wait...didn't we already have the epoxy thread for February?


[/quote]

It was colder then. The epoxy takes longer to cure. :P

[super20dan]

and whats bad about golf works epoxy? at least it rated for clubuilding and not from a hard ware store

[Nessism]

[quote name='super20dan' timestamp='1393681037' post='8770692']
and whats bad about golf works epoxy? at least it rated for clubuilding and not from a hard ware store
[/quote]

Did someone disparage Golfworks epoxy?