Cobra Fly Z and Fly Z+ Drivers: In-hand photos

[Puppetmaster]

[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423190114' post='10895503']
Probably picking up the black head FlyZ+ in the morning unless I see it and just hate the looks of it. Had my buddy set it aside for me
Already have an ACCRA Tour z LS and a Roddio S6 ready for it.
[/quote]

Fly Z+ with a Tour Z LS? Subscribed for updates. The LS is one of the best feeling shafts I've ever hit.

[Scratch2Plus]

[quote name='Puppetmaster' timestamp='1423190954' post='10895581']
[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423190114' post='10895503']
Probably picking up the black head FlyZ+ in the morning unless I see it and just hate the looks of it. Had my buddy set it aside for me
Already have an ACCRA Tour z LS and a Roddio S6 ready for it.
[/quote]

Fly Z+ with a Tour Z LS? Subscribed for updates. The LS is one of the best feeling shafts I've ever hit.
[/quote]

Your a fan of the LS as well? Great shaft imo and so smooth. I've turned a couple buddies to this shaft and they love it.

[Jimhayden]

[quote name='davo32683' timestamp='1422286507' post='10820307']
Anybody seen demos yet in their local stores?
[/quote]GG in vegas has em, I was getting about 2000 spin with weight back

[sevenputts]

That Crossfield guy talks. Alot.

[Puppetmaster]

[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423194440' post='10895999']
[quote name='Puppetmaster' timestamp='1423190954' post='10895581']
[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423190114' post='10895503']
Probably picking up the black head FlyZ+ in the morning unless I see it and just hate the looks of it. Had my buddy set it aside for me
Already have an ACCRA Tour z LS and a Roddio S6 ready for it.
[/quote]

Fly Z+ with a Tour Z LS? Subscribed for updates. The LS is one of the best feeling shafts I've ever hit.
[/quote]

Your a fan of the LS as well? Great shaft imo and so smooth. I've turned a couple buddies to this shaft and they love it.
[/quote]

Yes, I honestly liked the entire Tour Z line. I still the Tour Proto, which eventually became the original Tour Z+ and then Tour Z ST, and also have the non-plus Tour Z, which is the closest to the RT. I tried the M5-75 Tour Z LS in a driver and couldn't get over how smooth it felt and how straight I hit it. The only thing was that my ball speeds were higher with the GD DI, which I'm still using, so that was picked over the LS. However, I would have loved an 85 gram LS in a FW. Maybe the LS will work better for me in a newer, lower spin head, but then now I also want to try the CS1 and FX series. Accra just makes great shafts in general.

[remarkable]

Looks good, have a cell + & Pro, How does the face of the Fly Z + close compared to the Cell Pro? I have a little hard time closing the face on the Pro.

[NavyLD12]

There are draw settings just like the BC+

[Scratch2Plus]

[quote name='Puppetmaster' timestamp='1423247147' post='10900047']
[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423194440' post='10895999']
[quote name='Puppetmaster' timestamp='1423190954' post='10895581']
[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423190114' post='10895503']
Probably picking up the black head FlyZ+ in the morning unless I see it and just hate the looks of it. Had my buddy set it aside for me
Already have an ACCRA Tour z LS and a Roddio S6 ready for it.
[/quote]

Fly Z+ with a Tour Z LS? Subscribed for updates. The LS is one of the best feeling shafts I've ever hit.
[/quote]

Your a fan of the LS as well? Great shaft imo and so smooth. I've turned a couple buddies to this shaft and they love it.
[/quote]

Yes, I honestly liked the entire Tour Z line. I still the Tour Proto, which eventually became the original Tour Z+ and then Tour Z ST, and also have the non-plus Tour Z, which is the closest to the RT. I tried the M5-75 Tour Z LS in a driver and couldn't get over how smooth it felt and how straight I hit it. The only thing was that my ball speeds were higher with the GD DI, which I'm still using, so that was picked over the LS. However, I would have loved an 85 gram LS in a FW. Maybe the LS will work better for me in a newer, lower spin head, but then now I also want to try the CS1 and FX series. Accra just makes great shafts in general.
[/quote]

Well, I'm a little disappointed with the LS 65g in the FlyZ+ head. Came out to a D6 with a NDMC grip. I can probably get it to a D4 with a heavier grip but I'm leaving tomorrow so I might not even take the LS with me. Bummer.

[Stoffer]

[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423290944' post='10904385']
Well, I'm a little disappointed with the LS 65g in the FlyZ+ head. Came out to a D6 with a NDMC grip. I can probably get it to a D4 with a heavier grip but I'm leaving tomorrow so I might not even take the LS with me. Bummer.
[/quote]

Can't you just take some weight off the weight? Isn't it removable, and then you can shave some material off the backside?

[magills]

So which adapter( the Cell Pro or +) is the correct one for the Fly Z + head? I know they are all compatible but which one doesn't need the conversion chart so it's the loft shown in the window?
Thanks

[tigercolt77]

[quote name='magills' timestamp='1423314502' post='10904929']
So which adapter( the Cell Pro or +) is the correct one for the Fly Z + head? I know they are all compatible but which one doesn't need the conversion chart so it's the loft shown in the window?
Thanks
[/quote]
+1 on this

[drake47]

[quote name='magills' timestamp='1423314502' post='10904929']
So which adapter( the Cell Pro or +) is the correct one for the Fly Z + head? I know they are all compatible but which one doesn't need the conversion chart so it's the loft shown in the window?
Thanks
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure it is the Plus sleeve, but if anyone knows for sure please chime in.

[magills]

Cobra website is showing this-

FLY-Z+ / BIO CELL+ HOSEL SHAFT ADAPTER

The Cell + = the Fly Z +

[tigercolt77]

I have a bio cell pro shaft to go into a fly z + head.

[SubaruWRX]

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=2384335

I'd think these charts still apply, just to the new Fly-Z series?

[Scratch2Plus]

[quote name='Stoffer' timestamp='1423311366' post='10904807']
[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423290944' post='10904385']
Well, I'm a little disappointed with the LS 65g in the FlyZ+ head. Came out to a D6 with a NDMC grip. I can probably get it to a D4 with a heavier grip but I'm leaving tomorrow so I might not even take the LS with me. Bummer.
[/quote]

Can't you just take some weight off the weight? Isn't it removable, and then you can shave some material off the backside?
[/quote]

EDIT:

[Stoffer]

[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423322392' post='10905497']
[quote name='Stoffer' timestamp='1423311366' post='10904807']
[quote name='Scratch2Plus' timestamp='1423290944' post='10904385']
Well, I'm a little disappointed with the LS 65g in the FlyZ+ head. Came out to a D6 with a NDMC grip. I can probably get it to a D4 with a heavier grip but I'm leaving tomorrow so I might not even take the LS with me. Bummer.
[/quote]

Can't you just take some weight off the weight? Isn't it removable, and then you can shave some material off the backside?
[/quote]

Yes, technically you could take one of the sliding weights off, however I believe each weight is 12.5g. I could be wrong but that number just stuck in my head. For every 2g you gain/lose 1 sw point.
So by taking 12g's off the sw would be around a D0. Not ideal for me.
[/quote]

Sorry, let me clarify. Take the weight off, shave some material off the backside of the weight or drill some blind hoes into the weight and re-install the now lighter weight back into the clubhead.

[Scratch2Plus]

^^^^ Ahh, ok I see what your saying. That is a possibility. If I decide to keep it I will take that into consideration.
Played today with the FlyZ+. Weight forward and loft at 10*.w-stock Vlct Matrix shaft. Felt and performed very well but the sound isn't quite what I like in a driver, however if it outperforms the R15 I will put it in the bag. My buddy plays the BioCell+ and I prefer the sound of it over the FlyZ+.
I have 5 more rounds scheduled so I'll have a very good idea by Tuesday if I'll be keeping it or going on Bst.

[tigercolt77]

My black Fly Z + with Elements Chrome 6f5T came in today! Can't wait to put it up against my amp cell pro. Nice weather tomorrow, may have to put it straight into the bag.

[76mpg]

[quote name='tigercolt77' timestamp='1423362827' post='10908865']
My black Fly Z + with Elements Chrome 6f5T came in today! Can't wait to put it up against my amp cell pro. Nice weather tomorrow, may have to put it straight into the bag.
[/quote] Let us know how they compare if you have time. Thanks

[Oldboy]

[quote name='76mpg' timestamp='1423405154' post='10910703']
[quote name='tigercolt77' timestamp='1423362827' post='10908865']
My black Fly Z + with Elements Chrome 6f5T came in today! Can't wait to put it up against my amp cell pro. Nice weather tomorrow, may have to put it straight into the bag.
[/quote] Let us know how they compare if you have time. Thanks
[/quote]

+1

[KPH808]

[quote name='SubaruWRX' timestamp='1423321394' post='10905415']
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=2384335

I'd think these charts still apply, just to the new Fly-Z series?
[/quote]

So with the fly z + head and a bio cell pro adapter, I need to install it in the 7.5F setting for it to be a standard 8.5? Am I reading that chart correctly?

[tigercolt77]

[quote name='Oldboy' timestamp='1423405513' post='10910719']
[quote name='76mpg' timestamp='1423405154' post='10910703']
[quote name='tigercolt77' timestamp='1423362827' post='10908865']
My black Fly Z + with Elements Chrome 6f5T came in today! Can't wait to put it up against my amp cell pro. Nice weather tomorrow, may have to put it straight into the bag.
[/quote] Let us know how they compare if you have time. Thanks
[/quote]

+1
[/quote]
Will do, unfortunately it won't be today like I had hoped...

[BigHook25]

Just tried the Fly Z+ recently with the weight in the forward position. It is a really nice club, like the look of the setup and got pretty good numbers. Great club, but just not worth it upgrading from the Bio Cell + which is an incredible club.

[og512]

I went to Golfsmith and hit the Fly Z stock set up next to my Bio Cell w/ custom for 4 straight days and it out performed the Bio Cell everytime... and honestly it's not even close. I even took it to an outdoor driving range (heated bays) and gave it a test run and again, it wasn't even close. Needless to say I took advantage of the 50% trade in bonus and traded in my Bio Cell for new Fly Z.

The tip on Fly Z is the same as the Bio Cell so I was able to keep my custom shaft and put the Bio Cell stock back in for the trade in.

I thought i had found the perfect driver when i got fit for my Bio Cell and the Fly Z knocked it right out the bag.

[BreakingPar]

Tried these drivers today, granted it was in heated bays with subzero temps.

Wasn't loving the Z+. It didn't help that it was set to 9, and I didn't have my wrench with me. Fared better with the Z, but even that was outperformed by my Amp Cell Pro with Black Tie. Which was outperformed by my Jetspeed TP...

I was glad I didn't bring my BC and BC+ along for the ride, let alone my gamer and backup drivers (yes I have a problem.)

Anyway, I was relieved that they didn't impress me... Saved me some green

[jon12]

[quote name='chuck12' timestamp='1423450751' post='10914935']
Tried these drivers today, granted it was in heated bays with subzero temps.

Wasn't loving the Z+. It didn't help that it was set to 9, and I didn't have my wrench with me. Fared better with the Z, but even that was outperformed by my Amp Cell Pro with Black Tie. Which was outperformed by my Jetspeed TP...

I was glad I didn't bring my BC and BC+ along for the ride, let alone my gamer and backup drivers (yes I have a problem.)

Anyway, I was relieved that they didn't impress me... Saved me some green
[/quote][quote name='chuck12' timestamp='1423450751' post='10914935']
Tried these drivers today, granted it was in heated bays with subzero temps.

Wasn't loving the Z+. It didn't help that it was set to 9, and I didn't have my wrench with me. Fared better with the Z, but even that was outperformed by my Amp Cell Pro with Black Tie. Which was outperformed by my Jetspeed TP...

I was glad I didn't bring my BC and BC+ along for the ride, let alone my gamer and backup drivers (yes I have a problem.)

Anyway, I was relieved that they didn't impress me... Saved me some green

I have the same problem, my backup drivers have backups. Picked up my Fly Z+ with Aldila Tour Blue 65, can't wait to hit it at snow covered range next week.
[/quote]

[bryanwmilburn]

I tried most of the new drivers this year ( Aeroburner, r15, Vapor Pro and Flex, g30 LST) and for the heck of it I tried the regular Bio Cell. To my surprise, the Bio Cell outperformed all of them and I loved the feel and look of it. Can only hope the Fly Z line will be just as good.

[BreakingPar]

[quote name='bryanwmilburn' timestamp='1423484392' post='10916055']
I tried most of the new drivers this year ( Aeroburner, r15, Vapor Pro and Flex, g30 LST) and for the heck of it I tried the regular Bio Cell. To my surprise, the Bio Cell outperformed all of them and I loved the feel and look of it. Can only hope the Fly Z line will be just as good.
[/quote]

I haven't tried all the 2015 clubs yet, but my BC and BC+ are not going anywhere anytime soon. And I actually only got the BC [s]at the end of last season[/s]. It keeps up with my gamer (R1 with 6.2 ts), but I'm not familiar with it yet. It [i]should [/i]be my back up, but that spot is also taken!

EDIT: Actually got it middle of the season, but the shaft broke right at the hosel, and it spent a month getting "fixed" by Cobra. I can go into my disdain for their customer "care", but that's for a different thread

[KPH808]

[quote name='magills' timestamp='1423320002' post='10905287']
Cobra website is showing this-

FLY-Z+ / BIO CELL+ HOSEL SHAFT ADAPTER

The Cell + = the Fly Z +
[/quote]
[quote name='KPH808' timestamp='1423418039' post='10911587']
[quote name='SubaruWRX' timestamp='1423321394' post='10905415']
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=2384335

I'd think these charts still apply, just to the new Fly-Z series?
[/quote]

So with the fly z + head and a bio cell pro adapter, I need to install it in the 7.5F setting for it to be a standard 8.5? Am I reading that chart correctly?
[/quote]

I put a shaft with the bcp adapter in the 8.5 setting and it looked a little closed. Put it in a 7.5F according to the chart and it looks much better. So, that does make sense.....cell + adapter = fly z + and the chart confirmed it.
Funny thing is that I was at my local golf store and the cobra rep was in so I asked him about it. He told me the bcp adapter and fly z + adapter is the same setting. I asked if he was sure and he was positive he was correct but at the same time he was confused with the question. Seems like he has no idea.