Who is the undercover LPGA pro ?

[PZero]

No one tees it up with the intention of having to withdraw.

 

Normally I would agree, but I don't think Inbee had any intention on playing Friday.

[Desflurane]

In fact Robert Allenby flew to Valderama from Australia to tee it up on the euro tour, hit one shot and collected his bonus money. Of course he promptly withdrew.

Watching Inbee was painful.

[Tailgater]

I'd like for you to address which of the players of the LPGA or cliques party the hardest on the road.

 

I can't see this being Creamer/Pressel/Linicome/Lewis. Nor can I see the Koreans. I could Wie/Woods/Kang and even Lexi.

 

Interesting question. The clique model isn't only "at work", it extends to most of tour life. In my experience, on the Wednesday night of event week, between players, caddies, parents, travel companions, press, media, tour staff, manufacturer, agent and sponsor reps, you are looking at 500 people or thereabouts. Not really a huge contingent to "invade" a city.

 

Tuesday night is the compulsory Pro-Am "red carpet" dinner. Many players can be heard in the right places complaining about having to travel with some formal or dress wear for this specific purpose. Paying extra for your clubs to fly the world is enough of a constant, never mind expanding your luggage. LPGA is pretty militant about attendance and dress code for the biggest fundraising evening of every event week. How long and how hard the party goes has a lot to do with the event sponsor. It's their money. The positives for this being the big night of the week include Wednesday being the last day without the pressure of competition per se. The negatives include all eyes in one place. Just like everyone else's staff parties around holidays, any extreme performances never really get forgotten. They evolve into legendary fish stories.

 

Exempted from this event are the true partiers on tour. The caddies. Most are in a lower grade of accomodation than players on tour. In, shall we say, more conducive areas of town for extra-curricular activities. Looping is not a job for everyone. Long hours, performance dependent pay, little freedom from your boss. If you ever get the opportunity to sit back with some experienced loopers and tip a few back, this is where you will hear some real dirt.

 

The tour also usually puts on a "social night" once during the week, usually for the younger crowd. Typically, they will basically rent out a popular club and it's a good opportunity for newer players to get to know one another outside of work. Yes, it does give cliques an opportunity to establish and expand. But it also allows the tour overseers to observe their future in a social setting. The last time the CWO was in the Calgary area (playing at Priddis Greens, just like this year) the social event was at a popular country & western nightclub, where the players learned line dancing. So, get 40 or 50 women under the age of 25, drinking and line dancing in a foreign city. It ended up being like an enclave being surrounded by security as the giggling and screaming rose while the local cowboys tried to gain access. Montreal was another city that offered a more challenging security issue for this event. Needless to say, the location and time of these events is not supposed to leave the locker room.

 

Truth is, there's just not much time for tourism and letting loose on tour. Many will band together and take in the local sights, but that's usually in a minibus with ample escort and supervision. Some have appearances to fulfill in every city. Some have hospital or hospice visits to make. Very, very few get a full day off on tour.

 

But, who are the party animals despite the discouragement through activities and/or commitments? Christina Kim. Read her book. Enough said. Laura Davies. Always sociable, always open to conversation. Dame Laura is intimidating to a certain degree, but she is a warm person, very unassuming. She won't stay up all night knocking them back (any more) but she has no problem enjoying a few with most anyone who wants to join in. A pint with her is a memorable experience. I can remember Tuesday of the 2010 CWO in Winnipeg when I wore a pair of Liverpool FC shorts to the course. That is Laura's team as well as mine. Somewhere on the back nine of her practice round, her caddy asked her if she wanted to play the course or just keep talking footy with this local bloke. Cristie Kerr, no surprise, will book the highest end restaurants in every tour stop and expect to receive flawless service with the best meal the place has ever served. One restaurant in Montreal, when Ms. Grrr told them she would not ever return, replied that she would not be allowed to reserve a table there ever again. They did not charge for the meal of her and her husband, preferring to get them out of the place as soon as possible. More than once, I have seen Cristie inside the ropes after her round, glass of red in hand, ignoring all fans, waiting for her friends to finish their round. Brittany Lincicome, the leader in black cloud over the head hangovers that I have seen. Even more than Christina Kim.

 

I have seen the Spanish Senoritas in rough shape the morning after, but rarely. Belen, Aza and Carlota seem to be a squad for incognito exploration on tour. And no, Beatriz is not generally a part of the squad as far as I know. A lot of the younger girls that grew up or went to college in California spend a fair amount of time together off course, and they are a colorful group. Tiffany Joh, Jane Park, Danielle Kang are among the most prominent in this circle.

 

Bottom line is, if you party too much, your game will suffer and it's a matter of time until you need a new job. No matter how much talent you have.

This was excellent. My thanks.

[Tailgater]

No one tees it up with the intention of having to withdraw.

 

Normally I would agree, but I don't think Inbee had any intention on playing Friday.

I agree. Inbee only intended to play round 1. I see why this alternate is bitter, but Inbee does not owe her anything.

[hell_is_chrome]

was this a leaders meeting for "The Club"?? Trump tie in is approriate as well

 

http://www.golfchann...olf-ball-heels/

 

definite tangible demonstration of The Club's prerequisite of Republican all-or-nothing political support. Unfortunately, it is not any deeper than most partisans. Perhaps Kerr would be aware of, and be able to debate about, some GOP "policies", but I wouldn't expect it from any others.

 

Well I'm glad to see they at least have something going for them. I'm no Trump man by any means. I'm just glad they have enough sense to not swallow a bunch of liberal crap that gets shoved down our throats daily.

 

What is it with conservatives and their obsession with things being shoved down their throats?

[Shilgy]

was this a leaders meeting for "The Club"?? Trump tie in is approriate as well

 

http://www.golfchann...olf-ball-heels/

 

definite tangible demonstration of The Club's prerequisite of Republican all-or-nothing political support. Unfortunately, it is not any deeper than most partisans. Perhaps Kerr would be aware of, and be able to debate about, some GOP "policies", but I wouldn't expect it from any others.

 

Well I'm glad to see they at least have something going for them. I'm no Trump man by any means. I'm just glad they have enough sense to not swallow a bunch of liberal crap that gets shoved down our throats daily.

 

What is it with conservatives and their obsession with things being shoved down their throats?

I think that was the previous Clinton. :)

[Oldboy]

was this a leaders meeting for "The Club"?? Trump tie in is approriate as well

 

http://www.golfchann...olf-ball-heels/

 

definite tangible demonstration of The Club's prerequisite of Republican all-or-nothing political support. Unfortunately, it is not any deeper than most partisans. Perhaps Kerr would be aware of, and be able to debate about, some GOP "policies", but I wouldn't expect it from any others.

 

Well I'm glad to see they at least have something going for them. I'm no Trump man by any means. I'm just glad they have enough sense to not swallow a bunch of liberal crap that gets shoved down our throats daily.

 

What is it with conservatives and their obsession with things being shoved down their throats?

I think that was the previous Clinton. :)

 

I think he was the shover not the shovee which would make sense with the concern from conservatives..

[canadianglen]

This was excellent. My thanks.

 

my pleasure :drinks:

[Hot Rod 71]

Hey Canadianglen, I've heard and read some stories about some of the LPGA ladies who like to find male companionship at each stop while they are on the road, but they don't always find what they want because many men will not approach them and ask them out. Perhaps the man are intimidated or these stories are not true? Can you shed some light? You may change the names to protect the guilty.

 

They don't call him HOT ROD for nothin'

 

Haha, thanks. I actually read this in an excerpt from Kim's book in a golf magazine.

 

Hey Canadianglen, I've heard and read some stories about some of the LPGA ladies who like to find male companionship at each stop while they are on the road, but they don't always find what they want because many men will not approach them and ask them out. Perhaps the man are intimidated or these stories are not true? Can you shed some light? You may change the names to protect the guilty.

 

This is not really in my area of expertise, shall we say. There are always rumors and unconfirmed tales about sexual orientation, promiscuity, liasons inside the tour circle and failed relationships within. As with everything else, security has been increasing as the years go by. Hitting on a LPGA player is not exactly a straightforward task when they are at work. But it definitely happens. Speaking as a heterosexual male, there are certainly some impressive ladies out there. Most of the younger girls have at least one parent present at all times within view. If not a parent, then someone from their agency representing them. Brooke Henderson, Charley Hull, Lexi Thompson, Lydia Ko, Kathleen Ekey (wow), Michelle Wie, Minjee Lee, Jessica Korda, Danielle Kang among this group.

 

The next step up in age are either married or mature enough to be able to deal with things. Sandra Gal, Belen Mozo (wow), Azahara Munoz, So Yeon Ryu, Brittany Lang, Gerina Piller among them.

 

As far as the question goes, who are the players who may be looking for some temporary companionship, I'm just not the person to know this. For all of the younger set, I am their father's age so I'm out of the picture. That being said, the surest way to access a young player for a chat or interview is through their parents. If mom or dad thinks you are okay, you're okay. I actually spend far more time talking to Scott Thompson than Lexi. Same with Charley Hull's dad. A lot of Canadian player's parents recognize me every year and are happy to say hi and will haul their daughters over and say "you remember Glen?" with that look a parent gives when their kids are supposed to be respectful to someone their parents know.

 

Thanks for the reply. I guess I wasn't really asking for specific names, or who does what, which I didn't really convey in my post.

 

I was just wondering if what Kim wrote was really what she said it was. She made it sound like there are many players who seek male companionship at certain times on tour, but have difficulty securing said companionship as many feel men will not approach them and ask for a date.

[Hakko]

Hey Canadianglen, I've heard and read some stories about some of the LPGA ladies who like to find male companionship at each stop while they are on the road, but they don't always find what they want because many men will not approach them and ask them out. Perhaps the man are intimidated or these stories are not true? Can you shed some light? You may change the names to protect the guilty.

 

They don't call him HOT ROD for nothin'

 

Haha, thanks. I actually read this in an excerpt from Kim's book in a golf magazine.

 

Hey Canadianglen, I've heard and read some stories about some of the LPGA ladies who like to find male companionship at each stop while they are on the road, but they don't always find what they want because many men will not approach them and ask them out. Perhaps the man are intimidated or these stories are not true? Can you shed some light? You may change the names to protect the guilty.

 

This is not really in my area of expertise, shall we say. There are always rumors and unconfirmed tales about sexual orientation, promiscuity, liasons inside the tour circle and failed relationships within. As with everything else, security has been increasing as the years go by. Hitting on a LPGA player is not exactly a straightforward task when they are at work. But it definitely happens. Speaking as a heterosexual male, there are certainly some impressive ladies out there. Most of the younger girls have at least one parent present at all times within view. If not a parent, then someone from their agency representing them. Brooke Henderson, Charley Hull, Lexi Thompson, Lydia Ko, Kathleen Ekey (wow), Michelle Wie, Minjee Lee, Jessica Korda, Danielle Kang among this group.

 

The next step up in age are either married or mature enough to be able to deal with things. Sandra Gal, Belen Mozo (wow), Azahara Munoz, So Yeon Ryu, Brittany Lang, Gerina Piller among them.

 

As far as the question goes, who are the players who may be looking for some temporary companionship, I'm just not the person to know this. For all of the younger set, I am their father's age so I'm out of the picture. That being said, the surest way to access a young player for a chat or interview is through their parents. If mom or dad thinks you are okay, you're okay. I actually spend far more time talking to Scott Thompson than Lexi. Same with Charley Hull's dad. A lot of Canadian player's parents recognize me every year and are happy to say hi and will haul their daughters over and say "you remember Glen?" with that look a parent gives when their kids are supposed to be respectful to someone their parents know.

 

Thanks for the reply. I guess I wasn't really asking for specific names, or who does what, which I didn't really convey in my post.

 

I was just wondering if what Kim wrote was really what she said it was. She made it sound like there are many players who seek male companionship at certain times on tour, but have difficulty securing said companionship as many feel men will not approach them and ask for a date.

 

My recollection of that article is not so much that men were intimidated or put off, but that the pool of "available" men at tourneys was small. I remember something along the lines of most of the male patrons being dads with their daughters, senior citizens, and pubescent boys looking to get an autographed photo of Natalie.

[canadianglen]

I was just wondering if what Kim wrote was really what she said it was. She made it sound like there are many players who seek male companionship at certain times on tour, but have difficulty securing said companionship as many feel men will not approach them and ask for a date.

 

To a certain extent, yes that is how it is. But again, consider the crowd CKim hangs with as compared to some other groups. The caddie lounge at the event is usually one of the busiest exclusive areas after rounds, with the loopers getting a break from their bosses for a cold one among their peers. Very few players enter this sanctuary, but there is one who is a boisterous regular who frequently buys a round. Christina Kim.

 

Free time for players is limited, especially if they make the cut. Players' accomodation ranges from 5 star hotels paid by sponsors to Holiday Inn Express to Super 8. That has a lot to do with things as well. Even in 2016, many men have an aversion to approaching women so publicly. They are in effect on display inside the ropes for 4 to 6 hours, then they emerge to a crowd or many others simply scurry away as soon as possible. It's not very inviting for the more common methods of "picking up girls" most are used to. There aren't too many "hotties" that aren't married or in a relationship.

[ohioglfr]

I'm not sure that seeking an active relationship while on tour would be a good thing for a tour pro on the LPGA. If it ends up going badly, it's too much emotional baggage to bring on the course. I think men are better at compartmentalizing personal relationship problems. Men are wired differently.

 

Guys, I think I opened a can of worms here.

[BLLDWG23]

I'm sure it happens and has happened but it is probably more of a rarity than a norm. I just don't see many young successful female pro athletes "looking for companionship" in every town they stop. I would think that most of these girls/ladies just aren't quite wired that way. I could be wrong though.

[lumberman2462]

I'm sure it happens and has happened but it is probably more of a rarity than a norm. I just don't see many young successful female pro athletes "looking for companionship" in every town they stop. I would think that most of these girls/ladies just aren't quite wired that way. I could be wrong though.

 

Maybe some of you young single guys on here should travel to an LPGA event and try your luck.

 

Please report back any findings.

[Palauan Hammer]

Hmmmmmmmmm, guess I need to go to an LPGA event someday! :) That being said, personally I wouldn't hit on a player while they were at the course out of respect, probably the last thing on their mind anyway.

[PZero]

It's another LPGA undercover pro this month. It's not quite as good as the one in last month's issue though.

[PZero]

The new article

 

 

[tbowles411]

That's actually kind of boring. :)

[PZero]

That's actually kind of boring. :)

 

Compared to the last one it is. Though still, a recent major winner is dating an American barely holding her card.

[SadTrombone]

Michelle Wie should date me. I'm fat and ugly so she can be the hot one and I'll be the hungry one in the relationship.

 

Perfect match. She can keep me as long as she wants then break up with me and write a book about it. I don't even care.

[Hakko]

Players dating each other? Does that happen in those rare co-sanctioned PGA/LPGA events? I'm confused.

[DavePelz4]

Michelle Wie should date me. I'm fat and ugly so she can be the hot one and I'll be the hungry one in the relationship.

 

Perfect match. She can keep me as long as she wants then break up with me and write a book about it. I don't even care.

 

So if you were standing together would you look like this?

 

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[SadTrombone]

Michelle Wie should date me. I'm fat and ugly so she can be the hot one and I'll be the hungry one in the relationship.

 

Perfect match. She can keep me as long as she wants then break up with me and write a book about it. I don't even care.

 

So if you were standing together would you look like this?

 

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It depends on where we're standing....

[4waymiss]

That's actually kind of boring. :)

 

Compared to the last one it is. Though still, a recent major winner is dating an American barely holding her card.

 

The only one that comes to mind is Kaymer. I know he dated one of the Big Break contestants, but she definitely was not on the tour.

 

Edit: Pardon me. The "major champion" could also be from the LPGA. :)

[DavePelz4]

That's actually kind of boring. :)

 

Compared to the last one it is. Though still, a recent major winner is dating an American barely holding her card.

 

The only one that comes to mind is Kaymer. I know he dated one of the Big Break contestants, but she definitely was not on the tour.

 

Allison Micheletti, sigh, dated Kaymer and married Mike Modano from the Dallas Stars.

 

 

 

I really need to get a life.

[4waymiss]

That's actually kind of boring. :)

 

Compared to the last one it is. Though still, a recent major winner is dating an American barely holding her card.

 

The only one that comes to mind is Kaymer. I know he dated one of the Big Break contestants, but she definitely was not on the tour.

 

Allison Micheletti, sigh, dated Kaymer and married Mike Modano from the Dallas Stars.

 

 

 

I really need to get a life.

 

DP, I think we are barking up the wrong tree. After reading it again, I believe they are BOTH from the LPGA.

[Qqq123xx]

Michelle Wie should date me. I'm fat and ugly so she can be the hot one and I'll be the hungry one in the relationship.

 

Perfect match. She can keep me as long as she wants then break up with me and write a book about it. I don't even care.

 

So if you were standing together would you look like this?

 

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More like this I am thinking 1@

[mdgboxx]

Michelle Wie should date me. I'm fat and ugly so she can be the hot one and I'll be the hungry one in the relationship.

 

Perfect match. She can keep me as long as she wants then break up with me and write a book about it. I don't even care.

 

So if you were standing together would you look like this?

 

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More like this I am thinking 1@

 

TOOLed,

 

Yep, good point. Can't forget the hoodie of shame. :taunt:

[North Texas]

That's actually kind of boring. :)

 

Compared to the last one it is. Though still, a recent major winner is dating an American barely holding her card.

 

The only one that comes to mind is Kaymer. I know he dated one of the Big Break contestants, but she definitely was not on the tour.

 

Allison Micheletti, sigh, dated Kaymer and married Mike Modano from the Dallas Stars.

 

 

 

I really need to get a life.

 

I guess I need to get a life too because I knew this as well. And my wife did too.

[PZero]

That's actually kind of boring. :)

 

Compared to the last one it is. Though still, a recent major winner is dating an American barely holding her card.

 

The only one that comes to mind is Kaymer. I know he dated one of the Big Break contestants, but she definitely was not on the tour.

 

Allison Micheletti, sigh, dated Kaymer and married Mike Modano from the Dallas Stars.

 

 

 

I really need to get a life.

 

DP, I think we are barking up the wrong tree. After reading it again, I believe they are BOTH from the LPGA.

 

Correct, both from the LPGA. After going through the list of recent winners one names sticks out...Lexi. As for the player, Jaye Marie. That's my guess at least.