Music on the course?

[Pepperturbo]

> @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > >

> > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> >

> > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

>

> Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

 

Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

[chippa13]

> @Pepperturbo said:

> > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > > >

> > > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> > >

> > > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

> >

> > Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

>

> Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

 

Typical smoker mentality. "The world should bend to me and not the other way around."

[dlygrisse]

> @chippa13 said:

> > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> > > >

> > > > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

> > >

> > > Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

> >

> > Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

>

> Typical smoker mentality. "The world should bend to me and not the other way around."

 

Well, unless of course it's pot, then apparently it's okay now.

That's it, I'm playing golf, in a cart, while listening to music, drinking beer, wearing jeans, smoking cigs while playing blades.

[Big Ben]

I’ve played a few course lately that have internet music built into the carts. The world hasn’t blown up yet! God forbid you hear the Eagles Take It Easy from two holes over.

[Nessism]

Two tee's close to one another with cart path between. I'm on one tee when guy playing the other hole pulls up in his cart with rap music playing loud enough to hear 50' away. Skunk can't smell his own hole and that's why I'm not in favor of music on the course.

[Roadking2003]

> @Pepperturbo said:

> I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

 

Yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Bean]

> @Pepperturbo said:

> > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > > >

> > > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> > >

> > > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

> >

> > Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

>

> Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

 

So, you are conciderate when it suits you, Is that it?

'Do you mind if I smoke?'

'Yes.'

'Too bad, go away.'

 

I know smokers who try to stay downwind and a bit farther away when they smoke and join the group once the cigarette is finished. Cigar smokers seem to be the worst as cigars last long and the smoke is not inhaled to satisfy nicotine deficiency. But even with a cigar a person can choose to be either conciderate or inconciderate.

[Pepperturbo]

> @chippa13 said:

> > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> > > >

> > > > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

> > >

> > > Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

> >

> > Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

>

> Typical smoker mentality. "The world should bend to me and not the other way around."

 

You and a few others are quite the distortionists. Did you all drop out of school for that or does it come naturally? I am not going to explain further. Considerate is a two-way street. Sorry, you don't understand the concept and rather assume about my intentions. My last comment on the subject is I along with many other men faced fire for The Constitution and would do it again, your right to distort. Regardless of what you think, considerate does NOT mean giving up my rights to make you happy.

[Mr. Bean]

> @Pepperturbo said:

> > @chippa13 said:

> > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > > > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > > > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

> > > >

> > > > Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

> > >

> > > Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

> >

> > Typical smoker mentality. "The world should bend to me and not the other way around."

>

> You and a few others are quite the distortionists. Did you all drop out of school for that or does it come naturally? I am not going to explain further. Considerate is a two-way street. Sorry, you don't understand the concept and rather assume about my intentions. My last comment on the subject is I along with many other men faced fire for The Constitution and would do it again, your right to distort. Regardless of what you think, considerate does NOT mean giving up my rights to make you happy.

 

I must say that I was not prepared for a counter argument that stupid. The Constitution... geeeezz...

 

Well, at least we all now know where you stand and that is on the side of complete inconciderates.

[LeoLeo99]

> @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > @chippa13 said:

> > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > > > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > > > > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > > > > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

> > > >

> > > > Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

> > >

> > > Typical smoker mentality. "The world should bend to me and not the other way around."

> >

> > You and a few others are quite the distortionists. Did you all drop out of school for that or does it come naturally? I am not going to explain further. Considerate is a two-way street. Sorry, you don't understand the concept and rather assume about my intentions. My last comment on the subject is I along with many other men faced fire for The Constitution and would do it again, your right to distort. Regardless of what you think, considerate does NOT mean giving up my rights to make you happy.

>

> I must say that I was not prepared for a counter argument that stupid. The Constitution... geeeezz...

>

> Well, at least we all now know where you stand and that is on the side of complete inconciderates.

 

And despite his inconsiderate behavior, it would be my honor to play with such a rascallian.

[bazinky]

Biggest problem with allowing music on the course is that it creeps into all aspects of play. I can tolerate it during casual rounds, but it's becoming increasingly prevalent during events and even club tournaments. Makes for an awkward start to the round when you get paired up with someone in a tournament round and you have to let them know that you prefer not to have music playing …

 

Clubs really need to start setting explicit rules about music. I know it's here to stay (unfortunately), but I'd really prefer to not have it allowed during morning rounds and in club events

[bigred90gt]

> @LeoLeo99 said:

> > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > @chippa13 said:

> > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > > > > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > > > > > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > > > > > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

> > > >

> > > > Typical smoker mentality. "The world should bend to me and not the other way around."

> > >

> > > You and a few others are quite the distortionists. Did you all drop out of school for that or does it come naturally? I am not going to explain further. Considerate is a two-way street. Sorry, you don't understand the concept and rather assume about my intentions. My last comment on the subject is I along with many other men faced fire for The Constitution and would do it again, your right to distort. Regardless of what you think, considerate does NOT mean giving up my rights to make you happy.

> >

> > I must say that I was not prepared for a counter argument that stupid. The Constitution... geeeezz...

> >

> > Well, at least we all now know where you stand and that is on the side of complete inconciderates.

>

> And despite his inconsiderate behavior, it would be my honor to play with such a rascallian.

 

I agree. I know I’ve had my disagreements with Pepperturbo, but I’d still love to play a round with him. I’ll even bring him a cigar and one for myself as well. No doubt it would be an interesting conversation on course.

 

 

[Pepperturbo]

> @bigred90gt said:

> > @LeoLeo99 said:

> > > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > @chippa13 said:

> > > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > > > @"Mr. Bean" said:

> > > > > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > > > > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > > > > > > > The "problem" with music is that it is so personal. One man's trash........

> > > > > > > > > I play often with one person who has very similar taste as I do, we usually enjoy some tunes when we play, I have another friend that has a totally different taste and he is "that guy" who insists his music is awesome and everyone else in the world has horrible taste.

> > > > > > > > > It's really about respecting other peoples space, and asking. If someone is opposed then turn it off.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It's almost like smoking, some people don't mind or will partake, others are offended. Just be respectful.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I agree but when it comes to my cigars, I am enjoying them. :) If someone doesn't like them, I won't take it personally if they stay away from me, pay for their own cart or find another tee group. We share outside, inside is another topic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ever heard the concept 'conciderate smokers'..?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes. Have you heard non-smokers do NOT have more rights than I do? You apparently overlooked my reference to inside there's a difference. Being considerate does NOT mean I don't smoke because another person doesn't like it. We stay away from each other as best we can.

> > > > >

> > > > > Typical smoker mentality. "The world should bend to me and not the other way around."

> > > >

> > > > You and a few others are quite the distortionists. Did you all drop out of school for that or does it come naturally? I am not going to explain further. Considerate is a two-way street. Sorry, you don't understand the concept and rather assume about my intentions. My last comment on the subject is I along with many other men faced fire for The Constitution and would do it again, your right to distort. Regardless of what you think, considerate does NOT mean giving up my rights to make you happy.

> > >

> > > I must say that I was not prepared for a counter argument that stupid. The Constitution... geeeezz...

> > >

> > > Well, at least we all now know where you stand and that is on the side of complete inconciderates.

> >

> > And despite his inconsiderate behavior, it would be my honor to play with such a rascallian.

>

> I agree. I know I’ve had my disagreements with Pepperturbo, but I’d still love to play a round with him. I’ll even bring him a cigar and one for myself as well. No doubt it would be an interesting conversation on course.

>

>

 

I disagree with some of my closest friends, disagreements are normal. What isn't is how some idiots behave online over disagreements. Calling me inconsiderate because I won't do want someone wants is not inconsiderate. Actions must benefit all parties. Anyhow, "thank you" both for the kind words.

[chippa13]

The right to breathe clean air trumps the right to pollute it. You don't piss in a river when someone is fishing 20 feet downstream, do you?

[Roadking2003]

> @chippa13 said:

> The right to breathe clean air trumps the right to pollute it.

 

When you enter my space you lose your right to clean air.

 

[Mr. Bean]

> @chippa13 said:

> The right to breathe clean air trumps the right to pollute it. You don't **** in a river when someone is fishing 20 feet downstream, do you?

 

Pepperturbo would because it is his space and everyone else just need to leave.

 

Consideration is obviously a word Pepperturbo was never taught what it means. Well, that goes to many smokers, they think they own the world. Fortunately the space for smokers is shrinking rapidly, even in the Good Old USA. In other parts of the world there are smoke-free outdoor events, smoke-free golf competitions and even smoke-free blocks of flats and office buildings!

 

Don't worry, Pepperturbo, these will eventually reach your part of the world as well.

[Clambake]

It seems that generally:

 

People who play music on the course THINK they're quiet and not disturbing others.

People who smoke THINK they're being considerate and their smoke isn't annoying others.

People who talk away on their mobile in restaurants or stores THINK they're quiet enough and not bothering those around them.

 

And at least 9 times out of 10, _all of the above are wrong_. Your music carries a long way on an open golf course and probably is bothering others. Smokers have their sense of smell dulled enough they don't understand how far smoke carries and how physically irritating it really is to a non-smoker. It isn't just annoying; with me it inflames nasal tissue and causes significant eye irritation. And the cell phone talkers are usually talking much louder than they would if it was a conversation with someone standing beside them.

 

The simple courtesy of understanding that your actions do indeed bother others and taking action accordingly would be appreciated.

[wkuo3]

If others can hear your music on a golf course, it is too loud.

I might even enjoy the same tune off the golf course but, certainly don't want to hear even a single note on the golf course.

Why is it so difficult to understand it is rude to invade other's space ? It's a golf course not a concert for goodness sake.

 

[seven dewey]

Lol, these music threads crack me up every time. I’ll gladly take music over the pace of play I see from 90% of people who play. Grinding over every putt like it is to win the Masters. Music won’t ruin my round or your round, even if it is too loud and terrible. Poor pace ruins everybody’s round in your group and every single group behind you.

[Clambake]

> @"seven dewey" said:

> Lol, these music threads crack me up every time. I’ll gladly take music over the pace of play I see from 90% of people who play. Grinding over every putt like it is to win the Masters. Music won’t ruin my round or your round, even if it is too loud and terrible. Poor pace ruins everybody’s round in your group and every single group behind you.

 

I didn't know we had to choose.

 

[Roadking2003]

> @"Mr. Bean" said:

> Consideration is obviously a word Pepperturbo was never taught what it means. Well, that goes to many smokers, they think they own the world.

 

As do many non-smokers. They think they own the world and have the authority to tell everyone else how to live their lives.

 

[chippa13]

At least the non-smokers don't treat the entire world as their ashtray.

[CLCcaddy]

> @chippa13 said:

> At least the non-smokers don't treat the entire world as their ashtray.

 

Compared to leaving that water on while brushing your teeth or the byproduct of the vehicle that gets you to the course or the ozone pollution caused by 80% of electricity generation... want me to go on...what do you have from china, cause they really treat the world great?

 

Former smoker here, current ignorance hater. Let me guess you probably used to smoke also (poor assumption, but can't I be ignorant also?). Most past smokers are the worst when it comes to this discussion, cheerful irony. Can we start debating "vapers" too! Please let's enlighten ourselves some more!!!

 

Shut up and hit the ball!

[chippa13]

Nice assumption but wrong. I never was a smoker. Question, when was the last time running water while brushing teeth ignited a devastating wildfire?

[Mr. Bean]

> @CLCcaddy said:

> > @chippa13 said:

> > At least the non-smokers don't treat the entire world as their ashtray.

>

> Compared to leaving that water on while brushing your teeth or the byproduct of the vehicle that gets you to the course or the ozone pollution caused by 80% of electricity generation... want me to go on...what do you have from china, cause they really treat the world great?

>

> Former smoker here, current ignorance hater. Let me guess you probably used to smoke also (poor assumption, but can't I be ignorant also?). Most past smokers are the worst when it comes to this discussion, cheerful irony. Can we start debating "vapers" too! Please let's enlighten ourselves some more!!!

>

> Shut up and hit the ball!

 

You have missed the point big time and I choose not to spend time to explain it to you.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

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[golfboy123]

Lighten up peeps ?️

[Big Ben]

> @golfboy123 said:

> Lighten up peeps ?️

 

Amen! And enjoy your round

[Ski5280]

I’ve grown to where music doesn’t bother me while playing. I’d prefer that people don’t, but it is what it is. I don’t say anything unless the volume is out of hand.

[Big Ben]

I actually thought it would be more prevalent by now. Seems to have slowed down to me. I love music doesn’t both me in the least. Now my hip?! That’s another story.