Paradym Triple Diamond.......Whoa momma

[phizzy30]

4 hours ago, ilikegolf26 said:

Did you loft up with the Paradym TD? I play Rogue ST TD LS now at 9* and wasn’t sure if I should stick there or go 10.5. 

I stayed at 9*.  I would recommend staying with the same loft as the Rogue ST TD launched a hair lower than the Paradym TD. 

[phizzy30]

Just now, nino44 said:

Played a few rounds with one and ordered it last night. Best dispersion I've ever seen from a driver. Not nearly as easy to work it like my previous epic speed TD and epic flash TD. Not my favorite feel ever but the results cant be beat. Eagerly awaiting mine to be delivered. 

I found the same thing.  Dispersion is better than the OG Stealth and Stealth 2+ I had.  It just wants to go straight with a slight draw which is just fine to me. 

[craz-e]

39 minutes ago, scotty_2987 said:

Patiently waiting for these to come in so I can put it together!

 

 

Nice combo!

I am still yet to decide what shaft to try with the triple diamond 

[phizzy30]

9 minutes ago, craz-e said:

 

 

Nice combo!

I am still yet to decide what shaft to try with the triple diamond 

What shaft profile are you looking for?  I see from your sig you got an IZ in your driver. 

[craz-e]

33 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

What shaft profile are you looking for?  I see from your sig you got an IZ in your driver. 

 

I did get fit for that shaft by Titleist but find it a little loose and I can have a big right miss which is unusual for me. I am not the fastest swinger of the club, I am normally around the 106 mark average but have had success in the past with the more stout shafts 

[KevCannon]

On 4/24/2023 at 9:51 PM, puttingmatt said:

I have seen in articles that it is neutral biased, can anyone comment on this ?

I have the Rouge ST TD, but that has more of a fade bias, that makes me work harder to turn over for a draw, when I need to.

I forgot what video it was in, it could have been Johnny Wunder of Rahm talking with a Callaway fitter, but the fitter was referencing the cg being almost virtually dead in the middle. Said this came from Tour feedback, players saying they wanted it truly neutral. Then up to each player on adjusting a bit either way if they wanted. Feels like this should happen more often….

[phizzy30]

Just now, craz-e said:

 

I did get fit for that shaft by Titleist but find it a little loose and I can have a big right miss which is unusual for me. I am not the fastest swinger of the club, I am normally around the 106 mark average but have had success in the past with the more stout shafts 

If you're wanting to stay the same profile as the IZ but something more stable and stout, I would suggest the Diamana GT or AD UB. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by phizzy30

[craz-e]

9 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

If you're wanting to stay the same profile as the IZ but something more stable and stout, I would suggest the Diamana GT or AD UB. 

 

Its the first ever Graphite Design shaft I have ever been fitted into to be honest 

[Hookasaurus Rex]

Super impressed with the Paradym triple diamond. Best feeling/sounding stock driver ever. Callaway nailed it with sound and feel.  Most surprising to me is how great the dispersion is- super tight. Just wants to go straight.  My biggest complaint is I have a very hard time getting it to cut.

[puttingmatt]

12 hours ago, KevCannon said:

I forgot what video it was in, it could have been Johnny Wunder of Rahm talking with a Callaway fitter, but the fitter was referencing the cg being almost virtually dead in the middle. Said this came from Tour feedback, players saying they wanted it truly neutral. Then up to each player on adjusting a bit either way if they wanted. Feels like this should happen more often….

Thanks for the info, 

[dandoholy]

On 4/26/2023 at 11:15 PM, KevCannon said:

I forgot what video it was in, it could have been Johnny Wunder of Rahm talking with a Callaway fitter, but the fitter was referencing the cg being almost virtually dead in the middle. Said this came from Tour feedback, players saying they wanted it truly neutral. Then up to each player on adjusting a bit either way if they wanted. Feels like this should happen more often….

 

I think this was in a TXG Monday Q&A where he dropped in.

Edited April 28, 2023 by dandoholy

[KevCannon]

3 minutes ago, dandoholy said:

 

I think this was in a TXG Monday Q&A where he dropped in.

I’m thinking u are correct. I am curious as to why it took Tour feedback for them make the cg as centered or “neutral” as possible. Seems as though the it was a good idea, their Tour staffers switched to Paradym very quickly and even have a decent amount of non contract guys playing the triple diamond. From various posts here and youTube, consensus is triple diamond is pretty forgiving while keeping launch and spin in a good window.

[dandoholy]

20 minutes ago, KevCannon said:

From various posts here and youTube, consensus is triple diamond is pretty forgiving while keeping launch and spin in a good window.

What I find even more interesting is that a lot of staffers use the standard Paradym in their FW.  Wunder also talked about how popular it's been because they wanted just that extra bit of spin.

[KevCannon]

1 minute ago, dandoholy said:

What I find even more interesting is that a lot of staffers use the standard Paradym in their FW.  Wunder also talked about how popular it's been because they wanted just that extra bit of spin.

Noticed that as well. I’ll have to go and rewatch that part, but did he say it was because it launched higher with the same spin? Or the triple diamond fwy didn’t spin enough? Can’t remember, but either 1 would explain why they are using standard fwy.

[dandoholy]

Just now, KevCannon said:

Or the triple diamond fwy didn’t spin enough?

 

I think it was more this.  The higher spin gave it a higher, softer flight that let them attack pins more but I'd have to rewatch to make sure this is accurate.

[KevCannon]

15 minutes ago, dandoholy said:

 

I think it was more this.  The higher spin gave it a higher, softer flight that let them attack pins more but I'd have to rewatch to make sure this is accurate.

Got ya. Most of those guys aren’t hitting 3 woods into greens, but will be with 5 or 7 wood. So if those didn’t spin enough that would be an issue, and on flip side too much spin with higher lofted fwy wood and wind eats it up.

When I get out of work today I’m going to have to try and find that clip…lol

[dandoholy]

13 minutes ago, KevCannon said:

When I get out of work today I’m going to have to try and find that clip…lol

 

Found it.  April 3 around the 29 minute mark was the original comments but it wasn't the FW comments.

[70sinsight]

On 4/26/2023 at 7:03 PM, scotty_2987 said:

Patiently waiting for these to come in so I can put it together!

I love my combo of this so far. It's a powerful feel for sure

[pollock21]

Anyone switch to Paradym TD from the Rogue ST Max LS? I’m gaming that head in 9 and it’s in the perfect window. I’m not sure if I’d want to go 9 or 10.5 in the TD. 

[phizzy30]

6 hours ago, pollock21 said:

Anyone switch to Paradym TD from the Rogue ST Max LS? I’m gaming that head in 9 and it’s in the perfect window. I’m not sure if I’d want to go 9 or 10.5 in the TD. 

Paradym TD was about 1* higher launch for me than the Rogue  ST Max LS.  Stay with the 9* head. 

[pollock21]

@phizzy30 What are your thoughts between the two? My max LS has been great, is it worth the upgrade to the TD?

[Ereim]

8* head cranked up to 9, in draw setting.
 

 

[phizzy30]

26 minutes ago, pollock21 said:

@phizzy30 What are your thoughts between the two? My max LS has been great, is it worth the upgrade to the TD?

Depends.  The Paradym is more neutral bias even the triple diamond so it's harder to work the ball.  Launches a little higher as well.  Feel is different too that's hard to describe.  It might be from the forged ti frame/face.   

[StarFleetGolfer]

Still trying to figure out how MGS has this as more forgiving than the TSR2. 

[ezra76]

Anyone hit with weights front vs. back? Looking to get an idea of spin difference.

[Ereim]

30 minutes ago, ezra76 said:

Anyone hit with weights front vs. back? Looking to get an idea of spin difference.

Had a range session with a Trackman today, spin was about 200-300 lower when weight is in the front. 

[Leroysettle]

Long story but was at a golf outing warming up with my stealth a few weeks ago.  10 min until tee off balls start going right and not feeling right.  Was freaking out thinking my swing was messed up!  I hit probably 10 more before finally looking down and seeing that face was cracked and at this point was lifting away from club!  I hurried into the pro shop and they had a brand new 8 degree triple diamond still in the wrapper as a demo.  Stock shaft-  in stealth I have LA Golf DJ.  Took a few holes to get used to it but wow.  Got home and immediately ordered triple diamond with Fujkura Ventus Black 7x.  Been playing it for last 2 weeks and by far the best combo in a driver I've ever hit.  I have heavier weight up front and then moved loft up +1.  I was told the heavier weight up front should lower launch and increase ball speed if up front.  I hit up on ball 2-3 degrees on average with 112-115ish ss and it seems perfect.  Hard to turn over left but at my course left is bad so sets up perfect for home course.  

 

TM did replace the stealth with this years version but I haven't even taken the wrapper off it!  So impressed by this driver.  Would never have even tried it had the stealth head not cracked.

[McG_Whale]

2 hours ago, Ereim said:

Had a range session with a Trackman today, spin was about 200-300 lower when weight is in the front. 

 

Same results here... And of note, I did not find it to be less forgiving or accurate with the heavy weight up front.

[dandoholy]

2 hours ago, Leroysettle said:

TM did replace the stealth with this years version but I haven't even taken the wrapper off it!  So impressed by this driver.  Would never have even tried it had the stealth head not cracked.

 

I just got my replacement from my OG stealth biting the dust and the Stealth 2 is a bomber for sure.

[Douger23]

I’m currently in the Rogue ST TD and am getting fitted for the Paradym family next week! All these posts are making me really excited to test out the Paradym TD! Sounds like an absolute beast!