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I've only got a round or two in with the Qi10 core three wood but really enjoyed it this past weekend.  For me it's paired really well with the Gen4 Hzrdus Black.  And I didn't really like the Qi10 Tour 5-wood that I got at launch, so I'm very pleasantly surprised.  No problem for me that it's not adjustable, because it sits so square out of the box.  Might have to give the 7W a look as well - I'm really struggling to find something I love that fills the gap between my SIM 5-wood and my 5-iron.

Callaway Rogue ST Max LS, Tensei White 65S
Taylormade Qi10 15*, Hzrdus Gen 4 Black 70 6.0

Taylormade Sim Ti 18*, GD AD-IZ 7X

Srixon ZX Utility 3i 20*, Dart 90 S

Taylormade P790 5i - 6i, MMT 105 S +1"

Taylormade P770 7i-AW, MMT 105 S +1"

Taylormade MG 3 56*, & 60*, MMT 105 S +1"
Odyssey TriHot 5k Seven CH, 35"

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19 minutes ago, HeftyLefty5 said:

Anyone with the 2024 790's experiencing fliers, i know they say that this was looked at and fixed and by the few reputable club reviews online that distance dispersion was better. Personal thoughts to those that have them? Before i decide to buy.

just hit the center of the face and no fliers. I think fliers are a misnomer. People say they hit a flier when in reality they hit the sweet spot and it just goes.

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4w: '22 Rogue ST LS 16.5  Tensei AV Blue 75x

7w: '22 Callaway Apex UW 21 80s MMT

DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH 95

4-AW: PXG OG 0211  with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long MOI matched

Wedges: Cleveland Zipcore 54 Full/58 Mid 

Putter: DF2.1 35"69* in blue

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12 minutes ago, Rbsiedsc said:

just hit the center of the face and no fliers. I think fliers are a misnomer. People say they hit a flier when in reality they hit the sweet spot and it just goes.

 

 

... Yup, I played the OG 790's and the next version,  Cobra Forged Tec's and currently play the '23 T200's and never experienced a flier, unless there was grass between the ball and face. I hit my 7 iron 165 and I could see someone hitting a hollow headed 7 iron 220 could have some issues with consistent distances, but of course "distance irons" are not designed for high swing players who don't need distance. 🤪  But at 71 the few extra yards keep my iron game at distances I have played my whole life. 

Driver:       TM Qi10 ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405
Fairway:    TM Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:    Ping G430 22* ... Alta CB Black 70r
                  TM Dhy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r

Irons:         Titleist T200 '23 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:    Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:       Cobra King Sport-60
Ball:           2024 TP5x/2023 Maxfli Tour

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20 minutes ago, Rbsiedsc said:

just hit the center of the face and no fliers. I think fliers are a misnomer. People say they hit a flier when in reality they hit the sweet spot and it just goes.

To be fair, I think there are definitely fliers.  But, not like it's the old "hot spot" concept.  Strong lofts and low spin designs can have a guy living on razors edge of being too low spin.  Get a little grass between the ball an the face and definitely can see some silly distances.  

I had that issue with the Mavrik Pro irons a few years ago.  I have never hit so many ridiculously long iron shots before or since.  Missed soooo many greens long.  A little wet grass and I had no clue how far they were going to go.  

Taylormade Qi10 9*/Ventus Blue 7X
Taylormade BRNR 13.5*/KBS TD Cat4 
Callaway AI Smoke 7w/AD IZ 8X
Cobra King CB 4-PW w/KBS $Taper
Taylormade Spider Tour Proto 34"
Taylormade MG4 52, 56, 62 S400
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41 minutes ago, Rbsiedsc said:

just hit the center of the face and no fliers. I think fliers are a misnomer. People say they hit a flier when in reality they hit the sweet spot and it just goes.

 

To be honest if I hit it in the center every time I wouldn't be asking the question I am. Fliers as a misnomer is a bit farfetched, look at cool clubs data and see the distance dispersion per strike. Again yes that is out of the center and not but there are certain tests through them you can see patterns of terrible distance dispersion. The 2023 model to the 2024 model of the 790 is drastically different. 

I know first hand about "techy" irons and 30+ yard fliers out of the fairway from experience in pxg 0211 and mizuno hmp's which is why i sold them. Im no scratch golfer but id like to try like hell to be one and having a club that just launches a ball into the parking lot versus on the green is something i dont want but sadly have experienced. 

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1 hour ago, HeftyLefty5 said:

Anyone with the 2024 790's experiencing fliers, i know they say that this was looked at and fixed and by the few reputable club reviews online that distance dispersion was better. Personal thoughts to those that have them? Before i decide to buy.

I’ve had mine since feb and not seen one flier. Dispersion has been very good with them. I’m very happy.

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Ping G 17.5 set at 18.5 tour regular
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Taylormade 2023 p790 5-PW kbs tour lite
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Bit of an update on my Qi10 adventure….

 

The Core head with my Smoke Green just wasn’t working, I was either losing everything very high right or hitting heely pulls, I tried 3 shafts (Smoke Green 6.0, Ventus TR Red 6X and RDX Blue 6.5) and nothing felt right….so much so that my SIM2 Max had been back in the bag for the last 2 rounds.

 

Anyway…the itch still needed scratching so I sold the Qi10 and had a fresh fit and this time ended up in a Qi10 LS 10.5 AV Black 65X, the head shape is so much nicer and I was absolutely striping it during the fitting.
 

I took it out today for the first time today hitting 2 balls of every tee and absolutely love it. For the first time ever I feel like I can confidently aim left side of the fairway and hit towering cuts back to the centre rather than fight a draw/hook.

 

The LS is plenty forgiving (my initial worry) and adding loft kept the spin manageable….so far I am impressed!!

 

The only negative so far (and I had the same with the core head) is that the paint on the sole is not at all durable, the silver is already coming off near the back weight after 18 Holes and the sole scratches incredibly easily)

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On 5/8/2024 at 2:41 PM, nickosbad said:

 

 

The only negative so far (and I had the same with the core head) is that the paint on the sole is not at all durable, the silver is already coming off near the back weight after 18 Holes and the sole scratches incredibly easily)

 

Agree on this - I sold my core head after 8 rounds and got accused of lying about the usage because the striping had worn off some on the sole.  I think just taking the headcover on and off probably wears on the pinstriping.

Callaway Rogue ST Max LS, Tensei White 65S
Taylormade Qi10 15*, Hzrdus Gen 4 Black 70 6.0

Taylormade Sim Ti 18*, GD AD-IZ 7X

Srixon ZX Utility 3i 20*, Dart 90 S

Taylormade P790 5i - 6i, MMT 105 S +1"

Taylormade P770 7i-AW, MMT 105 S +1"

Taylormade MG 3 56*, & 60*, MMT 105 S +1"
Odyssey TriHot 5k Seven CH, 35"

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On 5/8/2024 at 2:41 PM, nickosbad said:

Bit of an update on my Qi10 adventure….

 

 

i hit the core head and didnt like it. hit the LS and have been in love since - i take care of my stuff and i have some wear on the bottom of mine quite a bit already - i echo your thoughts/observations completely. 

 

Qi10 LS / 8* (dialed to 8.75*) / HZRDUS Smoke Green 60 6.5

Qi10 Tour / 3w / Denali Blue 70TX

Mizuno Pro 24 Fli-Hi / 3i / Tensei Pro White 100TX
Mizuno Pro 245 / 4-GW / KBS Tour X

SM9 Black / 54,58 / KBS Tour S+

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I don't understand how 'wear' can happen to the bottom of a driver unless you're hitting it off the deck?

 

I've played my Q10 for at least 20 rounds/weekly practice and not a mark...

 

Sorry, just trying to understand...

:taylormade-small: Qi10 Ruby Red 460 Driver 9.0D (Fujikura Vista Pro 65S)
:taylormade-small: BRNR Mini-Driver 11.5D* (Fujikura Vista Pro 55S
:taylormade-small: Stealth 2 Plus 3 Fairway 15.0D (Fujikura Vista Pro 65S
:taylormade-small: Stealth 2 Plus 3 Hybrid 19.5D (Fujikura Vista Pro HB 70S)
:taylormade-small: Stealth Irons (KBS C-Taper Lite 110 S) (4-LW) Golf Pride CP2 Pro Jumbo Grips (All Metals / Irons)
:taylormade-small: My TP Soto Silver and Black Putters* (Custom / KBS CT Tour) - Golf Pride :taylormade-small: Pistol
:taylormade-small: My Spider Tour X3 Putter* (Custom / KBS Black PVD) - SuperStroke Zenergy Pistol GT 1.0
:taylormade-small: Supreme Cart Bag (Black / Red) :taylormade-small: TP5 Golf Ball
:Clicgear: 4.0 Push Cart / :skycaddie: SX550 GPS / :bushnell: ProX3 Laser Rangefinder
 
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3 minutes ago, tarrantian said:

I don't understand how 'wear' can happen to the bottom of a driver unless you're hitting it off the deck?

 

I've played my Q10 for at least 20 rounds/weekly practice and not a mark...

 

Sorry, just trying to understand...

well mine occurs from tees coming across the bottom of the club - i have white tee marks (I only use white wood tees). also, wear can occur from lightly grazing the teeing ground as well if there is any sand or it's freshly mown - it happens. doesn't JUST happen from hitting off the deck. 

Qi10 LS / 8* (dialed to 8.75*) / HZRDUS Smoke Green 60 6.5

Qi10 Tour / 3w / Denali Blue 70TX

Mizuno Pro 24 Fli-Hi / 3i / Tensei Pro White 100TX
Mizuno Pro 245 / 4-GW / KBS Tour X

SM9 Black / 54,58 / KBS Tour S+

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5 minutes ago, tarrantian said:

I don't understand how 'wear' can happen to the bottom of a driver unless you're hitting it off the deck?

 

I've played my Q10 for at least 20 rounds/weekly practice and not a mark...

 

Sorry, just trying to understand...

Do you use a tee or are you using one of those magic levitating golf balls?

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Just now, gioguy21 said:

well mine occurs from tees coming across the bottom of the club - i have white tee marks (I only use white wood tees). also, wear can occur from lightly grazing the teeing ground as well if there is any sand or it's freshly mown - it happens. doesn't JUST happen from hitting off the deck. 

 

Thanks @gioguy21, I've always used plastic tees, so maybe that is an issue, but it shouldn't be...

:taylormade-small: Qi10 Ruby Red 460 Driver 9.0D (Fujikura Vista Pro 65S)
:taylormade-small: BRNR Mini-Driver 11.5D* (Fujikura Vista Pro 55S
:taylormade-small: Stealth 2 Plus 3 Fairway 15.0D (Fujikura Vista Pro 65S
:taylormade-small: Stealth 2 Plus 3 Hybrid 19.5D (Fujikura Vista Pro HB 70S)
:taylormade-small: Stealth Irons (KBS C-Taper Lite 110 S) (4-LW) Golf Pride CP2 Pro Jumbo Grips (All Metals / Irons)
:taylormade-small: My TP Soto Silver and Black Putters* (Custom / KBS CT Tour) - Golf Pride :taylormade-small: Pistol
:taylormade-small: My Spider Tour X3 Putter* (Custom / KBS Black PVD) - SuperStroke Zenergy Pistol GT 1.0
:taylormade-small: Supreme Cart Bag (Black / Red) :taylormade-small: TP5 Golf Ball
:Clicgear: 4.0 Push Cart / :skycaddie: SX550 GPS / :bushnell: ProX3 Laser Rangefinder
 
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22 minutes ago, tarrantian said:

 

Thanks @gioguy21, I've always used plastic tees, so maybe that is an issue, but it shouldn't be...

I found plastic tees (white color) still did this. Very easy to scratch from normal use vs stealth 2 plus

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Stealth 2 Plus 16.5 Ventus Blue 7x

Apex UW OG 21 Fuji Tour Spec 8x

2019 T100 4-PW AMT X100 White

SM8 50F12, SM9 56F14 Raw, SM8 08M Raw

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50 minutes ago, LeftDash14 said:

I found plastic tees (white color) still did this. Very easy to scratch from normal use vs stealth 2 plus

 

Interesting, no issues with my Qi10 and my tees are white plastic, but I should note it's the 'Ruby' Designer Series version so not sure if that would make a difference (It shouldn't but who knows).

 

I haven't graduated as yet to the levitating 'air' tees that are coming on the market soon to @Frank Newport's point, but those should help I suppose 🙄...

:taylormade-small: Qi10 Ruby Red 460 Driver 9.0D (Fujikura Vista Pro 65S)
:taylormade-small: BRNR Mini-Driver 11.5D* (Fujikura Vista Pro 55S
:taylormade-small: Stealth 2 Plus 3 Fairway 15.0D (Fujikura Vista Pro 65S
:taylormade-small: Stealth 2 Plus 3 Hybrid 19.5D (Fujikura Vista Pro HB 70S)
:taylormade-small: Stealth Irons (KBS C-Taper Lite 110 S) (4-LW) Golf Pride CP2 Pro Jumbo Grips (All Metals / Irons)
:taylormade-small: My TP Soto Silver and Black Putters* (Custom / KBS CT Tour) - Golf Pride :taylormade-small: Pistol
:taylormade-small: My Spider Tour X3 Putter* (Custom / KBS Black PVD) - SuperStroke Zenergy Pistol GT 1.0
:taylormade-small: Supreme Cart Bag (Black / Red) :taylormade-small: TP5 Golf Ball
:Clicgear: 4.0 Push Cart / :skycaddie: SX550 GPS / :bushnell: ProX3 Laser Rangefinder
 
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Got to play a round with the Qi10 LS today. Initially had it at 9* w/ my Ventus Black. Didn’t really like the window and spin it was giving me, cranked it down to 8.25* (I believe) and it really came alive. Has a different feel and sound than the og Stealth + off the face. Distance definitely increased a few yards and wasn’t punished on misses. Heel shot was much less punished than the Stealth. 
 

Fun club. Not sure if it’s worth the upgrade premium for those on the fence but it seemed like a better package on course. The head shape is amazing also. 

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*Taylormade Stealth 2 3&5
*Titleist T350 4 Iron, T200 5/6, T150 7-pw (bent 1 strong) Modus 120s
*Vokey SM8 Jet Black Limited 52/56/60
*Scotty Cameron Champions Choice NP2+
*Titleist ProV1x
*Nike hybrid cart bag.
 

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On 5/8/2024 at 11:41 AM, nickosbad said:

Bit of an update on my Qi10 adventure….

 

The Core head with my Smoke Green just wasn’t working, I was either losing everything very high right or hitting heely pulls, I tried 3 shafts (Smoke Green 6.0, Ventus TR Red 6X and RDX Blue 6.5) and nothing felt right….so much so that my SIM2 Max had been back in the bag for the last 2 rounds.

 

Anyway…the itch still needed scratching so I sold the Qi10 and had a fresh fit and this time ended up in a Qi10 LS 10.5 AV Black 65X, the head shape is so much nicer and I was absolutely striping it during the fitting.
 

I took it out today for the first time today hitting 2 balls of every tee and absolutely love it. For the first time ever I feel like I can confidently aim left side of the fairway and hit towering cuts back to the centre rather than fight a draw/hook.

 

The LS is plenty forgiving (my initial worry) and adding loft kept the spin manageable….so far I am impressed!!

 

 

... Every driver series is player dependent of course, but the Qi10 has such radical swings from head to head. I started out with the Qi10 Max after a fitting with the TM rep and I hated it from the very first swing on the course that went left of left. To be fair I didn't like the look at address and like you, had a difficult time finding the center. I played 10 rounds and it never got any better. I took advantage of the 90 day playability warranty and exchanged it for the core Qi10 with low expectations and figured I would be selling it. But it was an immediate night and day difference. If I read someone else saying one head was one of the worst they ever played and the other was not one of, but the best driver they have ever played, I would be skeptical at a minimum. And it's not like any of the heads perform poorly as Nelly Korda has no problems hitting the Max, it just didn't work for me. But the core Qi10 is my holy grail. 

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Driver:       TM Qi10 ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405
Fairway:    TM Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:    Ping G430 22* ... Alta CB Black 70r
                  TM Dhy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r

Irons:         Titleist T200 '23 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:    Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:       Cobra King Sport-60
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