2024 TaylorMade

[dmeeksDC]

42 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

 

... About the only thing I can add to that is the slightly high and toe miss goes as long as a center hit. Since that is my miss the Qi10 has just been awesome for me. And you guys know the drill, when something works so well with your miss, it gives you the confidence to swing freely and that limits the miss. I am old school and loved the feel/sound of the Stealth2 that is very dense and muted but I have no complaints about the Qi10 and think Taylor Made nailed it with a compromise in feel and sound that isn't too muted or too explosive and it should appeal to almost everyone. 

Yes, yes — confidence that you know what the driver will do on misses is huge. I had been pondering the Qi10 MAX head and it was reading a lot of reviews — including your posts — that got me to check out the standard head. I know from past threads there is a lot of knowledge in your takes that seems to match up well with my game. Glad I gave it a run. My assumption was I needed the MAX for forgiveness but the standard more than measures up.
 

I was playing the PXG Black Ops and it is a very nice driver but I could not get it dialed in. Several rounds played and it was fine but not wowing me. Seemed bulky and I felt like I was trying too hard to like it to justify my purchase. I spent the money, I really wanted to love it. Was not happening. It bummed me out.
 

So I hit demos again, the Smoke AI and an Qi10. Both strong but the Qi10 really impressed me. A week later I decided to buy a Qi10 and return it if it was just the same as the Black Ops. Maybe it’s just me, I thought. But I hammered my first drive with the Qi10 and I have not looked back. I liked it better, immediately. As soon as I finished my first round with the Qi10, the PXG went up for sale. The TaylorMade is sized perfectly, swings “fast,” is actually easier to hit straight and it has that extra gear. It has been simply spectacular, regularly turning subpar swings in to very playable results. It is wowing me. 

[nickosbad]

I have now had 4 rounds with my Qi10, two with a Smoke Green 70 6.0 and 2 with a Ventus TR Red 6X and i'm still not sure if i'm happy with it over my old SIM2 Max

 

Feel of the face goes to the SIM2 Max and whilst the Qi10 has a long ball in it, I don't seem as accurate and not as keen on the larger head.

 

I managed to spend an hour at an indoor Trackman Studio today and hit 4 different combo's of SIM2 Max and Qi10 (Stats attached)....what do you think??

 

SIM Green is my existing SIM 2 Max with Smoke Green - LOVE IT - Whilst it's maybe down 5 yards the dispersion ring is far smaller (Cost = £0)

Qi Green is a 9' Qi10 (Core) with my Smoke Green Shaft (Cost = £499)

Qi Red is a 9' Qi10 (Core) with Ventus TR Red 6X - Love the feel and stability of the shaft but strangely spin is far lower than the smoke green and dispersion is the worst (Cost = £699)

Qi Red +1 is a 9' Qi10 (Core) lofted up 1 click to 9.75' but strangely this is the shortest carry of them all (Cost = £699)

 

I'm finding it hard to justify even the £499 Qi10 let alone the upgraded shaft....It seemed to get slated on here but the SIM2 Max is just SO DAMN GOOD!!!

 

 

Edited March 26 by nickosbad

[radiman]

15 minutes ago, nickosbad said:

I have now had 4 rounds with my Qi10, two with a Smoke Green 70 6.0 and 2 with a Ventus TR Red 6X and i'm still not sure if i'm happy with it over my old SIM2 Max

 

Feel of the face goes to the SIM2 Max and whilst the Qi10 has a long ball in it, I don't seem as accurate and not as keen on the larger head.

 

I managed to spend an hour at an indoor Trackman Studio today and hit 4 different combo's of SIM2 Max and Qi10 (Stats attached)....what do you think??

 

SIM Green is my existing SIM 2 Max with Smoke Green - LOVE IT - Whilst it's maybe down 5 yards the dispersion ring is far smaller (Cost = £0)

Qi Green is a 9' Qi10 (Core) with my Smoke Green Shaft (Cost = £499)

Qi Red is a 9' Qi10 (Core) with Ventus TR Red 6X - Love the feel and stability of the shaft but strangely spin is far lower than the smoke green and dispersion is the worst (Cost = £699)

Qi Red +1 is a 9' Qi10 (Core) lofted up 1 click to 9.75' but strangely this is the shortest carry of them all (Cost = £699)

 

I'm finding it hard to justify even the £499 Qi10 let alone the upgraded shaft....It seemed to get slated on here but the SIM2 Max is just SO DAMN GOOD!!!

 

 

Have you tried the Qi10 in a 10.5 head vs lofting up the 9 degree head?  At least in the trackman data you posted, the Qi10 Smoke Green combo seems to be as tight as the Sim Max.  But, if it's not a clear winner, why spend the money.  Other than the joy that comes with having a shiny new club haha.  

[WeritoK2]

Has anyone compared standard Qi10 to TSR3? Can’t find solid comparisons anywhere… 

[benz5521]

On 3/25/2024 at 11:59 AM, Tree Levino said:

 

Very reliable source from TM has told me that they are keeping to their recent product cycle and we should see a 770 replacement coming in Aug/Sept. This would make sense as there's a copper 770 coming out in April. 

gonna guess that this is the 760…

[Tree Levino]

24 minutes ago, benz5521 said:

gonna guess that this is the 760…

MC

[toastinato]

See a bunch of these for sale on eBay. I didn’t even know they were out yet. Don’t even see them on TM website. 

[radiman]

32 minutes ago, toastinato said:

See a bunch of these for sale on eBay. I didn’t even know they were out yet. Don’t even see them on TM website. 

That crown...

 

 

[toastinato]

20 minutes ago, radiman said:

That crown...

 

 

Yeah I’m personally not the biggest fan. I do like the look of the bottom tho lol

[Mookie91]

2 hours ago, benz5521 said:

gonna guess that this is the 760…

Reminds me a bit of the J15 DPF which I really liked

[benz5521]

It’s a cool looking iron. Kinda old school and classic. 

[dcmidnight]

Well it finally happened to me last night, split the head wide open on my Stealth2, carbon piece pried out basically from the toe to the center of the club. And I...just dont love the Qi10 yet. Been testing it with the same exact shafts and the heads weigh exactly the same but...I dont love it. I KNOW - its basically the same club lol, I cant explain it. Who knows why, I might be a 6 index but I have the mental game of a 40. Supposed to play 3 rounds this weekend so I'll be hitting up PGA Superstore for some used options this afternoon...non carbon face options lol.

 

The good news is I am absolutely loving the MB/MC combo set with the MMTs. I was a little worried that they didnt have the Steelfiber 110s but the MMT 105s are a really solid option. I absolutely love the 8-9-P MBs.

 

 

Edited April 4 by dcmidnight

[ASN21]

Don't like that crown at all.

[pjc]

19 hours ago, Tree Levino said:

MC

P7CB...my guess they will have the MB, CB, 770, 790 and do away with the MC moniker.

[mlwenzlick]

On 4/3/2024 at 4:35 PM, radiman said:

That crown...

 

 

Slap a coat of paint on and send it out again!

[Morry]

When are they launching the new P760? 

I mean...Rory proto.....

 

 

[nickosbad]

Is anyone else with a Qi10 “Core” finding it very fade biased??

 

6 weeks in with my Qi10 Driver and I’m seriously thinking about benching it and going back to my SIM2 Max.

 

My bad shot with driver has always been left so initially I was pleased with the anti-left feel to my Qi10 but this thing is almost impossible to turn over and I’m finding that I’m losing shots to the right with it (I’m playing it 1 click higher loft so the face is slightly closed too)

 

Today I hit 4 balls of each tee (2 with each driver) and both with the exact same shaft but Qi10 was no longer and every shot was fade vs every shot was straight/slight draw with the SIM2 Max

 

[buckeye2782]

Yes, same.  I don't mind the fade, but for me the fade can get excessive.  Still need more time on the course though.  Most pros though want a driver the can't turn over.  That is what the 3 wood is for.  

[dmeeksDC]

Not at all fade biased for me. Easy to hit draws. Playing standard head at 9 degrees. I am playing a TPT Power series 17 Lo shaft in it. 

[tarrantian]

6 minutes ago, dmeeksDC said:

Not at all fade biased for me. Easy to hit draws. Playing standard head at 9 degrees. I am playing a TPT Power series 17 Lo shaft in it. 

 

Agreed - The Qi10 (standard) is probably the straighted TM driver I've ever hit. Typically I go for the 'low spin' versions of these drivers each year, but opted for more forgiveness as a trade off for the lower spin of the LS version...

 

Got the 9 degree version, went w/the upright setting (My usual set-up), but eventually dialed down the loft to the lowest position and it's singing now. Straight as an arrow! 

[nickosbad]

Interesting that the last two posters aren’t seeing the same.

 

I’m just getting 2 very different shot shapes when the only difference is the head

 

Im not as keen on the shape of the Qi10 so maybe it’s throwing off my swing in some way

[tarrantian]

17 minutes ago, nickosbad said:

Interesting that the last two posters aren’t seeing the same.

 

I’m just getting 2 very different shot shapes when the only difference is the head

 

Im not as keen on the shape of the Qi10 so maybe it’s throwing off my swing in some way

Could be the swing, the shaft who knows…

 

We’re all different in our own special way.

[dmeeksDC]

54 minutes ago, nickosbad said:

Interesting that the last two posters aren’t seeing the same.

 

I’m just getting 2 very different shot shapes when the only difference is the head

 

Im not as keen on the shape of the Qi10 so maybe it’s throwing off my swing in some way

If you’re not loving the shape, that can be difficult to get past. Is it just the standard? Did you try the Max?

 

I really like the shape. That was what first drew me to it. I think it is an important factor. You should try different hosel settings, see if you get a look you like. 

[chisag]

21 hours ago, nickosbad said:

 

Today I hit 4 balls of each tee (2 with each driver) and both with the exact same shaft but Qi10 was no longer and every shot was fade vs every shot was straight/slight draw with the SIM2 Max

 

 

... Coming from the Stealth2 HD my std Qi10 is neutral for me. I did install a lighter weight in the heel and put some lead tape on the toe of my HD and it usually produced a slight draw or straight ball. My Qi10 is mostly pretty straight but can also produce a very slight draw, but never a fade. So for me at least the HD had a slight draw bias and the Qi10 is neutral. 

... As others have stated, I started out with the Qi10 Max and hated to look at address. Like a big round spaceship it just didn't fit my eye and I hit a ton of hooks. I gave it 10 full rounds to be fair and disliked it as much in round 10 as round 1. Exchanged under the playability guarantee I expected to play the standard Qi10 and then sell it. I was pretty surprised by the performance and for me it is the best driver I have ever played. Absolutely love the look at address and I am driving the ball better than I have in a long time. 

[nickosbad]

So I had another fit today and went in armed ONLY with my existing SIM2 Max.

 

Its' strange, on a GCQuad  every fitter tells me that my SIM2 Max & Smoke Green combo is far too low spin (most of them around 18-1900 but on the course it just seems to perform and I don't feel like I struggle with spin, strangely enough I often feel like it spins too much at times and balloons.

 

Anyway, the fitter ended up putting me in the Qi10 LS 10.5' with a Tensei AV Black X-Stiff (SS today was 106mph), head shape is so much nicer and I was absolutely striping it, strangely not losing it right like with the standard head even lofted down and weight in the toe.

 

I tend to not trust most of the fitters i've encountered as there seems to be an a desire to fit into their upcharge shafts automatically or a lack of knowledge (eg, today's fitter told me that AV Black in an X is softer than a 6.0 HZRDUS and is more of a mid-launch shaft)

 

The one fitter I tend to trust does not have an indoor facility so whilst I was OK going to them for irons, i'm less happy fitting a driver with Range Balls.

 

This is the second time that i've been recommended the LS in 10.5 but I went with the standard Qi10 to give me more forgiveness as I was concerned about low spin and it's the first time i've actually been able to hit the AV Black in an X Flex. I may just have to go with the LS and see how it perform on the course!