Are you WRX'ers exaggerating how far you hit it?

[Deadpool_25]

[quote name='leftofseinfeld' timestamp='1334343770' post='4715952']
[size="2"] My P-4I are an inch shorter than stock, am i really losing 25 yards cause of that? [/size]


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Yes.

[isaacbm]

In 1982, I could hit a golf ball a quarter mile.... how much you wanna bet I can hit it over those mountains?

[J_Tizzle]

Hahaha I knew I had to post on here when I saw Smacky was commenting.

There are so many variables that come into account when figuring out how comparable your yardages are vs other people its not even worth your time. Sure I've hit drives that end up in the 400yrd range and I've driven my fair share of par 4's, but I don't think I'm long at all, very average at best.

So don't worry that you hit it 250 off the tee and feel inadequate because some guy on WRX gets that out of his balls-to-the-wall 4-iron at a dried out track in Texas, he has much more important things he's trying to compensate for by "averaging" that...

I think a safe bet is you can take what someone says they "average" and use somewhere between 90-95% of that for an actual "average".

[baseballfrk8998]

I hit one today from an elevated tee box (20 yards or so above the fairway), down wind (15-20 mph) to a pretty hard fairway.. It ended up about 350 (measured with a laser).


Is that my average?! Or is the one that I hit about 260 or so into the wind my average?!

[Justin_Ellis]

I just won a RBZ driver today in a scramble for longest drive. Hit it out there around 310. Not my average by any means but I can get it out there when I need to.

[TMAGplayer1]

LMAO

[ORUTRAVIS]

I just want to state that I have been doing custom fitting for about ten years. I have worked with a lot of mini tour pros and top amateurs over that time. I also have worked on the retail side in big box store for the past eighteen months. I have had my eyes opened about distances that some of these young guys are hitting in the last few years. I played professionally and was long about ten years ago. Thought carry a 3 iron 210 was long. I now have a 20-30 year old every week who will come in and hit there three iron 230 plus.

One of the biggest differences I see is that I have a lot of these guys that are built like football players that have picked up these game. Had twenty year old this past week who was swing 125-130 with driver. Six Iron swing speed was 105-108. Was hitting three iron about 255 in the air. I have had probably twenty five to thirty guys like this over the last year. This kid was probably a good four handicapper. I have two guys at my store that hit there three irons in the 230-240 range in carry.

That is all to be said that I used to think everyone on these sites where exagerrating but I now realize there are a lot of guys that just pound the ball.

Here is my yardages for the heck of it all carrys.

Driver 267-280
3 Wood 255 - Adams XTD 13 <--This is being a little understated because on launch monitor carry the same as my driver. I think i hit the three wood farther than the driver

19 hybrid -225-230

3 iron 208
4 iron 200
5 iron 192
6 iron 183
7 iron 172
8 iron 158
9 iron 142
pw 130
uw 117
sw 54 109
lw 59 98

[dunn]

yeah idk but i dont see too many really long ball hitters when i play, and i play alot..........a few but not a lot.........to me distance isnt what it used to be now that i have gotten better, more importantly is accuracy and consisent ydg



driver for me is 280-310 when i nut it but also can snap hook it 180 and miss on toe or heel and go 230-250 so dont really know my avg..........generally a decent driver and dont know carry ydg ............these are playing ydg so total


6 iron is bout 170-175................traditional loft



pw is 125-130.............traditional loft



keep in mind all irons arent same as they're are some jacked up lofts on alot of irons now so hard to compare



generally i found that people on avg exagerrate everything, not all but more so than not

[jons1]

I can hit my driver 108 yards and my wedge 17 yards.... and no, I'm not exaggerating

[baseballfrk8998]

[quote name='ORUTRAVIS' timestamp='1334372844' post='4718692']
I just want to state that I have been doing custom fitting for about ten years. I have worked with a lot of mini tour pros and top amateurs over that time. I also have worked on the retail side in big box store for the past eighteen months. I have had my eyes opened about distances that some of these young guys are hitting in the last few years. I played professionally and was long about ten years ago. Thought carry a 3 iron 210 was long. I now have a 20-30 year old every week who will come in and hit there three iron 230 plus.

One of the biggest differences I see is that I have a lot of these guys that are built like football players that have picked up these game. Had twenty year old this past week who was swing 125-130 with driver. Six Iron swing speed was 105-108. Was hitting three iron about 255 in the air. I have had probably twenty five to thirty guys like this over the last year. This kid was probably a good four handicapper. I have two guys at my store that hit there three irons in the 230-240 range in carry.

That is all to be said that I used to think everyone on these sites where exagerrating but I now realize there are a lot of guys that just pound the ball.
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I agree with this. I go to a university with a PGM program as well as a D1 golf team and I see guys all the time that can just flat out hammer the ball. I was walking one day and dropped my RF on a 330 yard par 4 so I backtracked to pick it up. It's about 290 carry to a slightly elevated green from the tips so I stopped to watch and 2 of the 3 guys drove the green.. I was pretty amazed.. Keep in mind these were guys from the golf team, but still.. Wow!

[jons1]

even with the equipment from 15 years ago I was hitting 4 woods 300 yards and drives up to 350 yards. with todays equipment, add on another dozen or so. there are tons of long hitters, and honestly it doesn't take much. Good technique with youthful flexibility and even average strength and you can hit it plenty long.

if everyone hit the ball 20 yards shorter they'd probably all cut their handicap in half, but that extra distance is just so tempting

[J_Tizzle]

The more I read the posts in this topic the more I want to slash out my eyes with the leading edge of Phil's 64 wedge.

I think the fact is that everyone remembers their bombs so they have technically hit a ball that far, so they just remember those times for the next time someone questions their absurd WRXardage. Then let them know that you carry your driver 280 on a 75% swing and that downhill/downwind/speed slot/sprinkler head bounce was when you "really wanted to see how far you could smack it when you turn it lose".

[agadawg17171]

Got to get in on this one just to see where it goes.

Driver- 290 carry

3 wood 260

18* Hybrid- 240 carry

4iron - 225

5 iron- 210

6 iron- 200

7- 190

8- 175

9- 160

PW- 150

52- 135

56- 125

60- 115

[armydiver]

I bet its probably because you can cheat on a tee and get away with a flip through impact much easier than you can with an iron. Im a flipper and when I time it right I can pop it out there in the 290-300 range. You hit your irons further than me though because it sounds like you are hitting them correctly and even de-lofting them which I rarely do. (working on that)



[quote name='dpwigolfer' timestamp='1333160208' post='4616965']
It's a funny thing how I can hit my irons way past many people on here but they somehow hit their drivers as far as I do.

I'm 5'7" 160 lbs 17 years old play to around a 4 and in pretty good shape. I don't know what my swing speed but i'm one of the longest at my club. I live at 600ft elavation and these are my stock distances from that far out and iv'e used GPS on my clubs to be sure. on my driver and 3 wood and I used to think I hit the ball further than I did until my dad let me use hit gps.

Driver 270-280 I rarely hit one truly over 300
3 wood 255
3 iron 235
4 iron 225
5 iron 215
6 iron 205
7 iron 190
8 iron 175
9 iron 155
PW 140
52 wedge 125
56 wedge 100
60 wedge 80

these are what I hit from that far not my carry, although I don't get much roll on most of my clubs, as I do not have access to trackman and my distances at the local Dicks were way jacked up when I hit there they had my 6 iron going from 220 to 230 depending on how I hit it.
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[dpwigolfer]

[quote name='armydiver' timestamp='1334384503' post='4719468']
I bet its probably because you can cheat on a tee and get away with a flip through impact much easier than you can with an iron. Im a flipper and when I time it right I can pop it out there in the 290-300 range. You hit your irons further than me though because it sounds like you are hitting them correctly and even de-lofting them which I rarely do. (working on that)



[quote name='dpwigolfer' timestamp='1333160208' post='4616965']
It's a funny thing how I can hit my irons way past many people on here but they somehow hit their drivers as far as I do.

I'm 5'7" 160 lbs 17 years old play to around a 4 and in pretty good shape. I don't know what my swing speed but i'm one of the longest at my club. I live at 600ft elavation and these are my stock distances from that far out and iv'e used GPS on my clubs to be sure. on my driver and 3 wood and I used to think I hit the ball further than I did until my dad let me use hit gps.

Driver 270-280 I rarely hit one truly over 300
3 wood 255
3 iron 235
4 iron 225
5 iron 215
6 iron 205
7 iron 190
8 iron 175
9 iron 155
PW 140
52 wedge 125
56 wedge 100
60 wedge 80

these are what I hit from that far not my carry, although I don't get much roll on most of my clubs, as I do not have access to trackman and my distances at the local Dicks were way jacked up when I hit there they had my 6 iron going from 220 to 230 depending on how I hit it.
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this year I really started compressing my irons a lot more with a good ball flight. I do still flip a little with my driver and 3 wood though but i'm working on that also

[Rosco1216]

[quote name='agadawg17171' timestamp='1334381500' post='4719358']
Got to get in on this one just to see where it goes.

Driver- 290 carry

3 wood 260

18* Hybrid- 240 carry

4iron - 225

5 iron- 210

6 iron- 200

7- 190

8- 175

9- 160

PW- 150

52- 135

56- 125

60- 115
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PW - 60*..Do you hit your 60* 115 yards to a green? I won't even attempt to hit my 58* into a green from longer than 85 out or 53 any longer than 110 out due to way to too much spin. Everything between 110 and 130ish I knock down my PW.

[square]

On internet forums most claimed carried yardages are exagerrated by 30 to 40 yards.
For example, the "I carry 3-wood 265" boast is in reality a 230-235 yard carry.

[starrman77]

You guys need to get a good GPS. I have yet to play with anybody that carries the ball an honest 300 yards. I have played with some who thought they did, only to be humbled by the GPS.

[Rosco1216]

[quote name='square' timestamp='1334585903' post='4730828']
On internet forums most claimed carried yardages are exagerrated by 30 to 40 yards.
For example, the "I carry 3-wood 265" boast is in reality a 230-235 yard carry.
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Thats a big exaggeration. Most do not purposefully exaggerate that much. Distance is BY FAR the most difficult measurable statistic in golf(on the golf course) to compare from individual to individual. Too many variables to even begin to count.

[BennyG19]

[color=#1C2837][size=2]"You guys need to a GPS. I have yet to play with anybody that carries the ball an honest 300 yards. I have played with some who thought they did, only to be humbled by the GPS."[/size][/color]

This! I hit the ball farther than anybody I know. I still suck at golf, but it's one skill I possess. I used to think I was bombing it out there 300+ but once my dad got a GPS we realized how much shorter it was. The GPS really humbles you. Also, most people don't claim their AVERAGE but they remember their longest drives and take an average of those. If shots out of bounds count as 0 yards my average might be 150 yards, lol! (sad but true)

[Rosco1216]

GPS is still off. Clear that massive creek or ravine in the middle of the fairway that LASER reads at 300 to the far side of the embankment. That will tell you if you carry your drive 300+.

[Swisstrader98]

[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1330199809' post='4375029']
That chart is accurate. There is a HUGE difference between TrackMan carry yardages and pulling a club from x distance on the course. Example you have 190 to the pin and pull 6 iron and hit it when you get to the green it's 15 feet from the pin. So that ball carried nowhere near 190 yards because even if it pitched forward only 5 feet that still leaves about 8 yards you didn't account for and a lot of people don't get that. Having done a lot of fittings on TrackMan, Flightscope or Game Changer it's fun to see how short most guys hit it compared to what they think and it's a real eye opener. Just because someone hit 6 iron from 210 and bounced it near the green means nothing. I pull 6 from 200 very often during casual play but on TrackMan I have a hard time carrying it over 190 yards in the air. My ball speed is closing in on 170 usually mid high 160's and I cannot fly a ball 300 yards on TrackMan its really not doable. I'll say it again that chart is right people just don't have a clue how far they hit it, carry distance and total distance and not even close. I was hitting my PW on Game Changer yesterday and I pull that club from 145-150 on occasion but on that I was carrying it about 134 yards on a good strike. So is that my 135 club or my 145 club? I suppose it depends on what you think right?
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Deadly accurate and I just lived through that with a recent driver fitting. Thought my drive distances based on years of play and readouts from Golfsmith and others was in the range of 260-275. Got on a trackman the other day and I'm getting about 225-240. A real let down to my ego!

[amrivew]

Just because you hit it far doesn't mean you hit it straight or on target. A lot of people can unload on a driver and hit it over 300 yds, but how many of you know how to hit a perfect 3/4 shot with every club in your bag? Half. At most.

[J_Tizzle]

I'd say for the typical person its between 90-95% of stated yardage is probably accurate of the real "playable" yardage of most

"Average" 90% 95%
Driver 290 261 276
3 wood 260 234 247
5 wood 240 216 228
4 225 203 214
5 210 189 200
6 200 180 190
7 190 171 181
8 175 158 166
9 160 144 152
w 150 135 143
52 135 122 128
56 125 113 119
60 115 104 109


I'd say my actual averages are right there between the listed 90-95% ranges associated above, minus the wedge yardages, mine are more in the 80-85% range of the initial yardage (thats the drop and stop rather than hit it 115 to play 95). And for what its worth, I'd say I'm a very average length scratch golfer.

[Myherobobhope]

[quote name='J-Tizzle' timestamp='1334380788' post='4719334']
The more I read the posts in this topic the more I want to slash out my eyes with the leading edge of Phil's 64 wedge.

I think the fact is that everyone remembers their bombs so they have technically hit a ball that far, so they just remember those times for the next time someone questions their absurd WRXardage. Then let them know that you carry your driver 280 on a 75% swing and that downhill/downwind/speed slot/sprinkler head bounce was when you "really wanted to see how far you could smack it when you turn it lose".
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Hey, I was once 200 yards out on a 540 yard par 5... so clearly every drive I hit is 340 yards dead straight.

Just because it is an elevated tee box, with the wind, way above elevation (Ketchum, ID) doesn't take anything away from my accomplishment.

All my distances are based off that one shot. That's why I keep trying to hit my 7 iron 250 yards.

[J_Tizzle]

[quote name='Myherobobhope' timestamp='1334598179' post='4731972']
[quote name='J-Tizzle' timestamp='1334380788' post='4719334']
The more I read the posts in this topic the more I want to slash out my eyes with the leading edge of Phil's 64 wedge.

I think the fact is that everyone remembers their bombs so they have technically hit a ball that far, so they just remember those times for the next time someone questions their absurd WRXardage. Then let them know that you carry your driver 280 on a 75% swing and that downhill/downwind/speed slot/sprinkler head bounce was when you "really wanted to see how far you could smack it when you turn it lose".
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Hey, I was once 200 yards out on a 540 yard par 5... so clearly every drive I hit is 340 yards dead straight.

Just because it is an elevated tee box, with the wind, way above elevation (Ketchum, ID) doesn't take anything away from my accomplishment.

All my distances are based off that one shot. That's why I keep trying to hit my 7 iron 250 yards.
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My bad! You should try to add about another 30 yards because then thats LD matertial. Might I suggest a distance ball and a 48" shaft?

[bmorejared]

I think I can hit it 500 yards, on a runway, a really wide runway.

[Swisstrader98]

If you haven't been on a trackman, you don't truly know your distances. And no, the setups at Golfsmith or Dicks don't count, because I truly believe that they're trumped up to make you feel like "you're the MAN!!"

[SilverBullets]

[quote name='Rosco1216' timestamp='1334583550' post='4730598']
[quote name='agadawg17171' timestamp='1334381500' post='4719358']
Got to get in on this one just to see where it goes.

Driver- 290 carry

3 wood 260

18* Hybrid- 240 carry

4iron - 225

5 iron- 210

6 iron- 200

7- 190

8- 175

9- 160

PW- 150

52- 135

56- 125

60- 115
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PW - 60*..Do you hit your 60* 115 yards to a green? I won't even attempt to hit my 58* into a green from longer than 85 out or 53 any longer than 110 out due to way to too much spin. Everything between 110 and 130ish I knock down my PW.
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From 110 I will pull out a full swing 58*... I actually play to that distance from time to time depending on the hole. I feel very comfortable standing 100-110 out with a 58*

[SilverBullets]

I was using my D3 on a Launch Monitor this weekend... 161 ball speed was my best.. Most swing were in the 150-155 range... I hit maybe 25 balls on the LM, 5 were above 155 MPH, 1 was below 150 and I skyed it.

The LM said my carry (for the balls 150-155 MPH) was 245-250... My Spin rate was between 2200-2400 for those shots (again the 150-155 ball speed). No clue where that rolls out too but I would estimate 265 or so.

On a totally side note.. my launch angle was between 8.5* and 10*... terribly low.. I can't it up (thats what he said).... IDK what the issue is. I then hit a D2 9.5 and 10.5 (they spun like crazy for me.. like 3800)... and then hit a 10.5 D3 and it was marginally better.. maybe a half degree better launch angle. I then put on lighter shafts, heavier shafts, nothing... very consistent... very low... Clearly its my swing.. any thoughts on how to lift it?