Callaway Big Bertha

[tbowles411]

[quote name='Callaway_HarryA' timestamp='1384864892' post='8171456']
[quote name='fredstar' timestamp='1384843189' post='8171094']
Is this like the revolutionary FT-iQ driver? Best thing since sliced bread today....gone tomorrow!
[/quote]

I wasn't at Callaway then but I assume you mean that it launched with a bunch of attention and interest, sold very well at first, but then it didn't really stick. That was in large part because it wasn't very aerodynamic a head and while having a lot of MOI and stability, was too spinny a head to appeal to most golfers. I believe it also didn't sound particularly good.

So in that respect, no, the new driver is nothing like the FT-IQ. Nothing like it at all.
[/quote]
Which is great because that driver was poo poo.

[OUZO Power]

[quote name='chickenpotpie' timestamp='1384862110' post='8171358']
[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1384832868' post='8170516']
Dude there is a reason Callaway is telling people to not give out info...headcover or not.
[/quote]

Then why start showing it to people in the first place?
[/quote]THey have to show their reps.

It's the reps that go after and show the people and their buddies.

[ExoticsGuy13]

[quote name='OUZO Power' timestamp='1384873719' post='8171866']
[quote name='chickenpotpie' timestamp='1384862110' post='8171358']
[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1384832868' post='8170516']
Dude there is a reason Callaway is telling people to not give out info...headcover or not.
[/quote]

Then why start showing it to people in the first place?
[/quote]THey have to show their reps.

It's the reps that go after and show the people and their buddies.
[/quote]
It's the reps jobs to show/sell the product to their accounts. The challenge is to keep all those people quiet. The need to keep everyone quiet about it is due to the fact it is "new technology". If the technology does get made public other companies, TMAG, can jump all over it and get something like it to market sooner than the planned release from Callaway. These companies are so good and so fast at getting product to market that you have to protect something like this. Otherwise I guarantee their would be counterfeits coming out of China before the real deal hits the shelves. That said, I had a chance to see and hit everything yesterday and it is good.

[Frankensteins Monster]

Phil raving about a product? You don't say? I wonder if he has any adjectives left to use on this one?

[Pure745]

[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1384875787' post='8172054']
I deleted my post- sorry Callaway. I figured that since I had seen it that it was basically public knowledge as I am certainly not a Callaway insider.... also was never told it was secret info. I did think the new driver was great, it flies very well.
[/quote]

Was it as good as all the hype in here makes it out to be? Just curious, I'm excited to see these mystery drivers!

[BirdieBob]

[quote name='Callaway_HarryA' timestamp='1384839395' post='8170962']
Driver B. Hands down. Our best total performance driver. And we think the best ever made. But we won't be able to have a fun debate with everyone on it until 12/2.
[/quote]


Looking forward to more details at that time!!

[J13]

[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1384876508' post='8172114']
[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1384875787' post='8172054']
I deleted my post- sorry Callaway. I figured that since I had seen it that it was basically public knowledge as I am certainly not a Callaway insider.... also was never told it was secret info. I did think the new driver was great, it flies very well.
[/quote]

Was it as good as all the hype in here makes it out to be? Just curious, I'm excited to see these mystery drivers!
[/quote]

Pure I know my post has bias as I went to Vegas but it's really good. Ingenious design and creates super low spin without sacrificing MOI in the process. Good.

[Pure745]

[quote name='J13' timestamp='1384877742' post='8172234']
[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1384876508' post='8172114']
[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1384875787' post='8172054']
I deleted my post- sorry Callaway. I figured that since I had seen it that it was basically public knowledge as I am certainly not a Callaway insider.... also was never told it was secret info. I did think the new driver was great, it flies very well.
[/quote]

Was it as good as all the hype in here makes it out to be? Just curious, I'm excited to see these mystery drivers!
[/quote]

Pure I know my post has bias as I went to Vegas but it's really good. Ingenious design and creates super low spin without sacrificing MOI in the process. Good.
[/quote]

J - you are definitely biased, but that's not a bad thing. In terms of anticipation vs. actual performance, how would you say this one ranks? And which driver would you say it's closest to but better than?

[vaca22]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1384869474' post='8171628']
[quote name='Callaway_HarryA' timestamp='1384864892' post='8171456']
[quote name='fredstar' timestamp='1384843189' post='8171094']
Is this like the revolutionary FT-iQ driver? Best thing since sliced bread today....gone tomorrow!
[/quote]

I wasn't at Callaway then but I assume you mean that it launched with a bunch of attention and interest, sold very well at first, but then it didn't really stick. That was in large part because it wasn't very aerodynamic a head and while having a lot of MOI and stability, was too spinny a head to appeal to most golfers. I believe it also didn't sound particularly good.

So in that respect, no, the new driver is nothing like the FT-IQ. Nothing like it at all.
[/quote]
Which is great because that driver was poo poo.
[/quote]

Doesn't Freddie rock a Squareway still?

[boxerjoe2011]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1384869474' post='8171628']
[quote name='Callaway_HarryA' timestamp='1384864892' post='8171456']
[quote name='fredstar' timestamp='1384843189' post='8171094']
Is this like the revolutionary FT-iQ driver? Best thing since sliced bread today....gone tomorrow!
[/quote]

I wasn't at Callaway then but I assume you mean that it launched with a bunch of attention and interest, sold very well at first, but then it didn't really stick. That was in large part because it wasn't very aerodynamic a head and while having a lot of MOI and stability, was too spinny a head to appeal to most golfers. I believe it also didn't sound particularly good.

So in that respect, no, the new driver is nothing like the FT-IQ. Nothing like it at all.
[/quote]
Which is great because that driver was poo poo.
[/quote]

Haha. I had a buddy of mine that was a scratch golfer that used the IQ with an X-Flex Rombax and use to hit that thing so freaking long and straight. I could never look down at the thing at address though. It's difficult to make a driver with lots of tech in it that looks traditional from address though. OEM's are constrained by cost as well. If price was no object, I am sure they could use different materials and methods in designing heads and shafts that really DO perform better than what we currently have. It's a challenge given these limitations to create something new every time. If Callaway allows you to change spin conditions in this new driver, that is a major leap forward in adustibility. Being able to control head weight, loft, face angle AND spin rate truly allows people to find the perfect set up for their swing without having to try 20 different shafts as well. I'm excited.

[tbowles411]

[quote name='vaca22' timestamp='1384880403' post='8172500']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1384869474' post='8171628']
[quote name='Callaway_HarryA' timestamp='1384864892' post='8171456']
[quote name='fredstar' timestamp='1384843189' post='8171094']
Is this like the revolutionary FT-iQ driver? Best thing since sliced bread today....gone tomorrow!
[/quote]

I wasn't at Callaway then but I assume you mean that it launched with a bunch of attention and interest, sold very well at first, but then it didn't really stick. That was in large part because it wasn't very aerodynamic a head and while having a lot of MOI and stability, was too spinny a head to appeal to most golfers. I believe it also didn't sound particularly good.

So in that respect, no, the new driver is nothing like the FT-IQ. Nothing like it at all.
[/quote]
Which is great because that driver was poo poo.
[/quote]

Doesn't Freddie rock a Squareway still?
[/quote]
In a fairway wood. That was actually decent.

[knudson81]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1384890367' post='8173360']
[quote name='vaca22' timestamp='1384880403' post='8172500']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1384869474' post='8171628']
[quote name='Callaway_HarryA' timestamp='1384864892' post='8171456']
[quote name='fredstar' timestamp='1384843189' post='8171094']
Is this like the revolutionary FT-iQ driver? Best thing since sliced bread today....gone tomorrow!
[/quote]

I wasn't at Callaway then but I assume you mean that it launched with a bunch of attention and interest, sold very well at first, but then it didn't really stick. That was in large part because it wasn't very aerodynamic a head and while having a lot of MOI and stability, was too spinny a head to appeal to most golfers. I believe it also didn't sound particularly good.

So in that respect, no, the new driver is nothing like the FT-IQ. Nothing like it at all.
[/quote]
Which is great because that driver was poo poo.
[/quote]

Doesn't Freddie rock a Squareway still?
[/quote]
In a fairway wood. That was actually decent.
[/quote]

LOVED the Ft-i Squareway woods! I just got rid of mine last year after I put the Razr Fit in play. It was the first fairway that I actually had full confidence in hitting.

[J13]

[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1384877894' post='8172246']
[quote name='J13' timestamp='1384877742' post='8172234']
[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1384876508' post='8172114']
[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1384875787' post='8172054']
I deleted my post- sorry Callaway. I figured that since I had seen it that it was basically public knowledge as I am certainly not a Callaway insider.... also was never told it was secret info. I did think the new driver was great, it flies very well.
[/quote]

Was it as good as all the hype in here makes it out to be? Just curious, I'm excited to see these mystery drivers!
[/quote]

Pure I know my post has bias as I went to Vegas but it's really good. Ingenious design and creates super low spin without sacrificing MOI in the process. Good.
[/quote]

J - you are definitely biased, but that's not a bad thing. In terms of anticipation vs. actual performance, how would you say this one ranks? And which driver would you say it's closest to but better than?
[/quote]

Depends on which driver your talking about. But I do not have enough experience with the new stuff to be saying it's better then X,Y, and Z clubs. Getting it out on the course and the trackman will tell me that. What I can say is it feels and sounds great and it has tech that is new in the golfing world. Useable, functional adjustability like never seen before.

[OldGolfer87]

I get a feeling that this driver will be about the same as every other new club that gets announced here ...... it's the best club ever created until people use it and it's no difference than other driver that is out there right now .....so go run out and spend 400 dollars for a driver that offers little to no difference than the club in your bag right now

[Lefty94]

I'm super excited to see this. This driver sounds amazing!!! This is my favorite time of year, as I get to see what will be in my bag 18-24 months from now when it is on major clearance. With mark downs and trade in just picked up my X Hot 3 wood for $80 brand new from a green grass shop. In about another 6 months or so, by the time the season starts here in PA I can replace my 09 X Forged (which I bought brand new in 2011) with the XHot pros. I recently saw that the X HOt drivers are down to $219. Another 6 months and one of those babys will be mine for less than $200.

[IP_Golf_Guy]

Don't get your hopes up but how about this:

 

 

See more designs at:

http://golf-patents.com/2013/11/19/callaway-golfs-next-hot-driver-perhaps-the-big-bertha.aspx

[J13]

Don't get your hopes up but how about this:

 

 

See more designs at:

http://golf-patents.com/2013/11/19/callaway-golfs-next-hot-driver-perhaps-the-big-bertha.aspx

 

Please take that down Callaway does not want the cat out of the bag yet. :-)

[hayzooos]

IP - I have a question. On your page, it states:

[quote] The associated application was filed with a nonpublication request [/quote]

How many applications are filed with this designation and how many are actually upheld (obviously, this one was not)?

[IP_Golf_Guy]

[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1384899246' post='8174098']
IP - I have a question. On your page, it states:

[quote] The associated application was filed with a nonpublication request [/quote]

How many applications are filed with this designation and how many are actually upheld (obviously, this one was not)?
[/quote]

Patent applications are published for the world to see 18 months after their filing date UNLESS an applicant requests that the application is not published, which was the case with this application. So, competitors could not see this application until today when it issued as a patent.

[hayzooos]

[quote name='IP_Golf_Guy' timestamp='1384899936' post='8174146']
[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1384899246' post='8174098']
IP - I have a question. On your page, it states:

[quote] The associated application was filed with a nonpublication request [/quote]

How many applications are filed with this designation and how many are actually upheld (obviously, this one was not)?
[/quote]

Patent applications are published for the world to see 18 months after their filing date UNLESS an applicant requests that the application is not published, which was the case with this application. So, competitors could not see this application until today when it issued as a patent.
[/quote]

So essentially there isn't anything anyone could do about it anyway, even though they can see it? Of course, all anyone would have to do is slightly alter it and I'm sure anyone could find a way around a patent. Thanks for the info!

[TexMex36]

Don't get your hopes up but how about this:

 

 

See more designs at:

http://golf-patents....big-bertha.aspx

 

That's..... different.

[mgholda]

Big Bertha Backstryke

[Agent Jim]

X2 Hot line for me if this is where they are going. I can like some odd stuff, currently playing a FT-iQ, but that patent picture is not for me.

[xerpro]

[quote name='Callaway_HarryA' timestamp='1384641474' post='8159292']
[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1384640457' post='8159248']
So if driver b and c are just other options (and apparently equals) to the optiforce, which came out last summer and didn't
set the world on fire, sounds already like this hype is overblown. If driver b and c are so awesome, who would ever fit into the optiforce 460 if they tried all 6?
[/quote]

Optiforce is part of our speed enhanced segment. This is particularly good for seniors and people who don't generate a lot of club head speed anymore. Lighter club head, longer and lighter shafts, more aerodynamic heads. Specifically designed to help people who are force limited create maximum club head speed and ease of launch. We were surprised that the head did so well on Tour because as we've said before, this line was not meant to target Tour type players. Of course these players were not building theirs as the retail versions were, in that they were going shorter shaft length and adding weight to the heads.

Driver B and C do not replace Optiforce at all. They are entirely different performance packages to deliver maximum distance. They will replace Razr Fit Xtreme.
[/quote]


A little off topic about BBA, but I had a chance to put a OF 460 through its paces this weekend, and other than being 46" ish, that club was solid.
Im glad to hear the OF is staying,as I think it could help a lot of people generate some speed....... and if you dropped the price on it, it could take place of the razr x...199.99, 299.99 for the X2 and 399.99 for B&C

[rurella]

Don't get your hopes up but how about this:

 

 

See more designs at:

http://golf-patents....big-bertha.aspx

 

That's..... different.

 

 

That's pathetic.

[SatelliteGuy]

I really hope that patent picture isn't it...

[deck]

Ha. In no way do I think it looks like that in the slightest.

[TexMex36]

[quote name='deck' timestamp='1384909299' post='8174896']
Ha. In no way do I think it looks like that in the slightest.
[/quote]

I hope not. It reminds me of that putter they made.

[Callaway Golf Official]

[quote name='Directvtechguy' timestamp='1384909212' post='8174886']
I really hope that patent picture isn't it...
[/quote]

That is most certainly not it!

-Chad

[TexMex36]

[quote name='Callaway Golf Official' timestamp='1384909926' post='8174966']
[quote name='Directvtechguy' timestamp='1384909212' post='8174886']
I really hope that patent picture isn't it...
[/quote]

That is most certainly not it!

-Chad
[/quote]

Great to hear!