Callaway Big Bertha

[TaylorMadeLuv]

[quote name='Dpavs' timestamp='1385088209' post='8187574']
[quote name='TaylorMadeLuv' timestamp='1385085552' post='8187266']
[quote name='Dpavs' timestamp='1385085421' post='8187248']
[quote name='atlambert2' timestamp='1385082857' post='8186986']
[quote name='Dpavs' timestamp='1385067588' post='8185424']
I think this depends on whether it is a design or utility patent to some extent. Obviously the design would be protected under a design patent but the functionality could be re-engineered under a different design without fear of infringement if I am correct. I do not think the concept of movable weights in golf clubs is protected by any utility patent or there would not be so many companies that have them... so that would lead me to believe the patent Callaway has is design patent and the concept of using a movable weight to raise or lower cg could be re-engineered under a different design.

A lot of conjecture above of course :P
[/quote]

Hahah of course you will be sued, but no major OEM would reverse engineer without making changes first to avoid that. Also I was looking at all Cally's patents today, and it is a utility patent (
[center][b]US PAT 8579724)[/b][/center]
. I also got the sense in combing through a bunch of club patents that with some minor tweaks after they reverse engineer it, another OEM could have be granted their own patent by differentiating their claims in a minor way. That was just the sense I got in 30 mins of browsing patents, and again, grain of salt. ORazor would know better than I.
[/quote]


And you received your law degree from where? In any case it is debatable if you would be sued under the scenario I presented. Also the [b]US PAT 8579724[/b] has nothing to do with the BB Alpha design so it's really irrelevant.

But since you brought up that design what we are seeing there is more likely something coming in the next year or two but not now. It will be interesting to see how exactly they implement such a concept.
[/quote]

Alpha will be here by feb.
[/quote]

Yep Alpha will be here by mid Feb, but that patent that is circling around in this thread "[b]US PAT 8579724" [/b]is not the Alpha.... I did hear a rumor as to what it might be but it's pretty premature to talk about it even really. The alpha's design though is nothing like that.
[/quote]

The alpha is the adjustable COG with weight port to adjust in the center of sole...

[TaylorMadeLuv]

[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1385088822' post='8187640']
Last time looked the SLDR had no adjustability for that low and forward cog!
Now Cally will have that in their alpha. That is not not only functionality but adjjustability.
Win for Cally!
TM chasen tail now
[/quote]

Lowest and farthest forward in history. Don't need to adjust, when all you have to do is loft up.

Gonna be a fun year regardless of company.

[hectorj]

[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1385088822' post='8187640']
Last time looked the SLDR had no adjustability for that low and forward cog!
Now Cally will have that in their alpha. That is not not only functionality but adjjustability.
Win for Cally!
TM chasen tail now
[/quote]

So, BB, you've seen and hit it, or you're just spouting off based on what some stranger told you on here? (For the record, I've hit it, and loved it, and told trustworthy members about it. Just wonder if you've got any actual info, or are trolling just to troll.)

I seem to remember you having comments about the R1 being "one loft." What are your thoughts on this, and X2Hot Pro, being "one loft?" I think I know the answer, as you're very consistent in who you pat on the back, but please enlighten us.

[BirdieBob]

[quote name='TaylorMadeLuv' timestamp='1385090085' post='8187796']
[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1385088822' post='8187640']
Last time looked the SLDR had no adjustability for that low and forward cog!
Now Cally will have that in their alpha. That is not not only functionality but adjjustability.
Win for Cally!
TM chasen tail now
[/quote]

Lowest and farthest forward in history. Don't need to adjust, when all you have to do is loft up.

Gonna be a fun year regardless of company.
[/quote]

Remember, if you don't have it, you don't have it...now where did I hear that TM?
And TM don't have it...there's only one with adustable COG folks!

[JGalls]

According to Harry on twitter it's a 12/2 release. Surprised its that early with no pics circulating yet.

[callawayforelife]

Wow reading this back and for is like watching campaign aides bicker back and forth on CNN. Mines better, no yours can't be better cause mines better. I think I'll wait till 12/2. But y'all carry on, entertainment is entertainment. Lol

[callawayforelife]

[quote name='JGalls' timestamp='1385092617' post='8188100']
According to Harry on twitter it's a 12/2 release. Surprised its that early with no pics circulating yet.
[/quote]
I think they will unveil it on 12/2.

[hayzooos]

[quote name='callawayforelife' timestamp='1385093178' post='8188146']
[quote name='JGalls' timestamp='1385092617' post='8188100']
According to Harry on twitter it's a 12/2 release. Surprised its that early with no pics circulating yet.
[/quote]
I think they will unveil it on 12/2.
[/quote]
I think this is correct. We'll get all the details on 12/2, but I don't think it will be in stores then. As stated earlier in the thread, I'm guessing a Jan/Feb release for these Bertha drivers.

[kwooten31]

I wish someone would just post some pictures, this is starting to annoy me. lol....

[MCoz]

[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385085918' post='8187308']
Hey TaylormadeLuv, Callaway showed low and forward works in the Xhot fairway woods with the standing wave tech in the head, specifically the 3 deep, ya know that club he won The Open Championship with.

Oh and BTW the new stick coming out from Callaway will create lower spin, more ball speed, and has higher MOI then the SLDR. Physics at work and even TM can't get around them ;-) Enjoy
[/quote]
You are not necessarily correct in your last statement in total and much less in actual application. You have made almost 100 of the first 400 posts here. Much of this Hype has been produced by 4 or 5 different posters.
We understand that there is a lot of internal excitement about the promise of this club. But it will only work (hopefully?) for those whose game it fits. If it were the "end-all" club, Callaway would not have 5 or 6 drivers for 2014, there would be one!
The true test will come from hitting it and if it is all that is imagined (at least for the better players then we will see it in the bags of Tour players all over the world who don't have other driver contracts instead of the TMs that dominate now.
Then all those crowing now can then have something real to speak of. But until then all of this is random conjecture.
By the way the competition (not just TM) has already seen and tested these to some extent. It is very hard to keep absolute secrets in Carlsbad.

[MCoz]

Here is a random thought: If half of what people think is going to happen this coming year, will TM and Callaway be the only companies to sell new drivers this coming year?? Titleist's '13 series woods were really almost two years old when they debuted earlier. How are they going to be by 2015? Can they afford to wait? Maybe they should consider "upping" their game!

[herox1]

Tried both of the Big bertha drivers. Absolutely awesome. Most of the speculation is true. One driver slightly bigger in head size with sliding weight. And the top driver that is designed with mickleson in mind has the COG adjustability. All topped of with a nice white shaft that mickleson enjoys. Fubuki. Wish I could post pictures but I would get in serious trouble. Hope this helps to clear up some of the crap on here.

[braincramp52]

[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1385110682' post='8188848']
[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385085918' post='8187308']
Hey TaylormadeLuv, Callaway showed low and forward works in the Xhot fairway woods with the standing wave tech in the head, specifically the 3 deep, ya know that club he won The Open Championship with.

Oh and BTW the new stick coming out from Callaway will create lower spin, more ball speed, and has higher MOI then the SLDR. Physics at work and even TM can't get around them ;-) Enjoy
[/quote]
You are not necessarily correct in your last statement in total and much less in actual application. You have made almost 100 of the first 400 posts here. Much of this Hype has been produced by 4 or 5 different posters.
We understand that there is a lot of internal excitement about the promise of this club. But it will only work (hopefully?) for those whose game it fits. If it were the "end-all" club, Callaway would not have 5 or 6 drivers for 2014, there would be one!
The true test will come from hitting it and if it is all that is imagined (at least for the better players then we will see it in the bags of Tour players all over the world who don't have other driver contracts instead of the TMs that dominate now.
Then all those crowing now can then have something real to speak of. But until then all of this is random conjecture.
By the way the competition (not just TM) has already seen and tested these to some extent. It is very hard to keep absolute secrets in Carlsbad.
[/quote]

C'mon Man! You're gonna suck the fun out of this!

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='herox1' timestamp='1385113898' post='8188900']
Tried both of the Big bertha drivers. Absolutely awesome. Most of the speculation is true. One driver slightly bigger in head size with sliding weight. And the top driver that is designed with mickleson in mind has the COG adjustability. All topped of with a nice white shaft that mickleson enjoys. Fubuki. Wish I could post pictures but I would get in serious trouble. Hope this helps to clear up some of the crap on here.
[/quote]

I thought both drivers are going to be 460cc ?

[deck]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1385123249' post='8189064']
[quote name='herox1' timestamp='1385113898' post='8188900']
Tried both of the Big bertha drivers. Absolutely awesome. Most of the speculation is true. One driver slightly bigger in head size with sliding weight. And the top driver that is designed with mickleson in mind has the COG adjustability. All topped of with a nice white shaft that mickleson enjoys. Fubuki. Wish I could post pictures but I would get in serious trouble. Hope this helps to clear up some of the crap on here.
[/quote]

I thought both drivers are going to be 460cc ?
[/quote]

I do not believe so. Thinking the Alpha is 430 and big Bertha is 460

[Anser]

[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1385110682' post='8188848']
[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385085918' post='8187308']
Hey TaylormadeLuv, Callaway showed low and forward works in the Xhot fairway woods with the standing wave tech in the head, specifically the 3 deep, ya know that club he won The Open Championship with.

Oh and BTW the new stick coming out from Callaway will create lower spin, more ball speed, and has higher MOI then the SLDR. Physics at work and even TM can't get around them ;-) Enjoy
[/quote]
You are not necessarily correct in your last statement in total and much less in actual application. You have made almost 100 of the first 400 posts here. Much of this Hype has been produced by 4 or 5 different posters.
We understand that there is a lot of internal excitement about the promise of this club. But it will only work (hopefully?) for those whose game it fits. If it were the "end-all" club, Callaway would not have 5 or 6 drivers for 2014, there would be one!
The true test will come from hitting it and if it is all that is imagined (at least for the better players then we will see it in the bags of Tour players all over the world who don't have other driver contracts instead of the TMs that dominate now.
Then all those crowing now can then have something real to speak of. But until then all of this is random conjecture.
By the way the competition (not just TM) has already seen and tested these to some extent. It is very hard to keep absolute secrets in Carlsbad.
[/quote]

Exactly... if people here don't think TMAG has seen the driver when 100 people in this thread have mentioned seeing it they are kidding themselves. And if people think that Callaway is going to release "the ultimate driver so good you will never need to buy another ever" well that'd be like Ford releasing a 100 mpg car that makes supermodels want to jump in and go to fast food places with you.

It's good the driver has an innovative feature that nobody else has but that doesn't mean it's actually helpful. The fact people take something Phil the Shill say with anything more than when they listen to a Nascar Driver thank his Pennzoil cheerios nutrigrain oreo dodge they are yet again being silly I remember the C4 being incredibly different than everything out too

Tour guys get all the hotmelt adjustment they need so I don't see how moving COG around with a wrench is ultimately much different than when a talented tour van guy moves some goo around inside a head.

But time will tell and if it's better I'll buy one. I'm partial to the rounder toe Callaway drivers have anyway. I've got 2 rounds in with my SLDR/Kiyoshi Purple combo anyway it's getting time to look elsewhere

[tembolo1284]

No pictures yet and it's being released in about 2 weeks?

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='deck' timestamp='1385123392' post='8189074']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1385123249' post='8189064']
[quote name='herox1' timestamp='1385113898' post='8188900']
Tried both of the Big bertha drivers. Absolutely awesome. Most of the speculation is true. One driver slightly bigger in head size with sliding weight. And the top driver that is designed with mickleson in mind has the COG adjustability. All topped of with a nice white shaft that mickleson enjoys. Fubuki. Wish I could post pictures but I would get in serious trouble. Hope this helps to clear up some of the crap on here.
[/quote]

I thought both drivers are going to be 460cc ?
[/quote]

I do not believe so. Thinking the Alpha is 430 and big Bertha is 460
[/quote]

I hope that is true!

[Woodridge]

Soun[quote name='lawsonman' timestamp='1385122475' post='8189042']
[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1385110682' post='8188848']
[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385085918' post='8187308']
Hey TaylormadeLuv, Callaway showed low and forward works in the Xhot fairway woods with the standing wave tech in the head, specifically the 3 deep, ya know that club he won The Open Championship with.

Oh and BTW the new stick coming out from Callaway will create lower spin, more ball speed, and has higher MOI then the SLDR. Physics at work and even TM can't get around them ;-) Enjoy
[/quote]
You are not necessarily correct in your last statement in total and much less in actual application. You have made almost 100 of the first 400 posts here. Much of this Hype has been produced by 4 or 5 different posters.
We understand that there is a lot of internal excitement about the promise of this club. But it will only work (hopefully?) for those whose game it fits. If it were the "end-all" club, Callaway would not have 5 or 6 drivers for 2014, there would be one!
The true test will come from hitting it and if it is all that is imagined (at least for the better players then we will see it in the bags of Tour players all over the world who don't have other driver contracts instead of the TMs that dominate now.
Then all those crowing now can then have something real to speak of. But until then all of this is random conjecture.
By the way the competition (not just TM) has already seen and tested these to some extent. It is very hard to keep absolute secrets in Carlsbad.
[/quote]

C'mon Man! You're gonna suck the fun out of this!
[/quote]

Sounds like Callaway must have something pretty special coming, doesn't it? Can't wait for the unveiling. Would love to hear more info from Harry or hash tag Chad.

[irwinfletcher77]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1385123249' post='8189064']
[quote name='herox1' timestamp='1385113898' post='8188900']
Tried both of the Big bertha drivers. Absolutely awesome. Most of the speculation is true. One driver slightly bigger in head size with sliding weight. And the top driver that is designed with mickleson in mind has the COG adjustability. All topped of with a nice white shaft that mickleson enjoys. Fubuki. Wish I could post pictures but I would get in serious trouble. Hope this helps to clear up some of the crap on here.
[/quote]

I thought both drivers are going to be 460cc ?
[/quote]

They are both 460. Alpha is just deeper face

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='irwinfletcher77' timestamp='1385127284' post='8189268']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1385123249' post='8189064']
[quote name='herox1' timestamp='1385113898' post='8188900']
Tried both of the Big bertha drivers. Absolutely awesome. Most of the speculation is true. One driver slightly bigger in head size with sliding weight. And the top driver that is designed with mickleson in mind has the COG adjustability. All topped of with a nice white shaft that mickleson enjoys. Fubuki. Wish I could post pictures but I would get in serious trouble. Hope this helps to clear up some of the crap on here.
[/quote]

I thought both drivers are going to be 460cc ?
[/quote]

They are both 460. Alpha is just deeper face
[/quote]

Thanks for clarifying this!

[kwooten31]

Please tell me these new drivers are NOT made of composite material, at least make one of them out of good ol fashioned titanium.... Please!

[J13]

MCoz you think others have tested this driver?

[JCA]

I really don't understand why no leaked pictures from Callaway in terms of marketing and sales. Why wouldn't they want this to go viral and to the masses. Everyday that this doesn't get to the masses is more sales for Taylor Made SLDR. Why wait after black Friday for the unveiling? How many moms, dads and wives will be buying TM SLDR woods thanksgiving weekend because kids or husbands will want one for Christmas because they don't know about the new Big Bertha. I have already been asked 3 times by friends wives what driver is the one their husbands want for Christmas. I think this is a big fail for Callaway marketing and sales. They have shown it to buyers and some even have tested them and have pictures. People on this forum will wait for it to come out and try it before making a decision on which driver they will buy, but the masses will be buying TM SLDR and Jetspeed woods everyday unitl Callaway comes out with the Big Bertha already late for Christmas.

[tbowles411]

[quote name='JCA' timestamp='1385130241' post='8189522']
I really don't understand why no leaked pictures from Callaway in terms of marketing and sales. Why wouldn't they want this to go viral and to the masses. Everyday that this doesn't get to the masses is more sales for Taylor Made SLDR. Why wait after black Friday for the unveiling? How many moms, dads and wives will be buying TM SLDR woods thanksgiving weekend because kids or husbands will want one for Christmas because they don't know about the new Big Bertha. I have already been asked 3 times by friends wives what driver is the one their husbands want for Christmas. I think this is a big fail for Callaway marketing and sales. They have shown it to buyers and some even have tested them and have pictures. People on this forum will wait for it to come out and try it before making a decision on which driver they will buy, but the masses will be buying TM SLDR and Jetspeed woods everyday unitl Callaway comes out with the Big Bertha already late for Christmas.
[/quote]
I like the way you think. And it's all true.

[viperstudio]

[quote name='JCA' timestamp='1385130241' post='8189522']
I really don't understand why no leaked pictures from Callaway in terms of marketing and sales. Why wouldn't they want this to go viral and to the masses. Everyday that this doesn't get to the masses is more sales for Taylor Made SLDR. Why wait after black Friday for the unveiling? How many moms, dads and wives will be buying TM SLDR woods thanksgiving weekend because kids or husbands will want one for Christmas because they don't know about the new Big Bertha. I have already been asked 3 times by friends wives what driver is the one their husbands want for Christmas. I think this is a big fail for Callaway marketing and sales. They have shown it to buyers and some even have tested them and have pictures. People on this forum will wait for it to come out and try it before making a decision on which driver they will buy, but the masses will be buying TM SLDR and Jetspeed woods everyday unitl Callaway comes out with the Big Bertha already late for Christmas.
[/quote]

You got a point.

[J13]

[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1385110682' post='8188848']
[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385085918' post='8187308']
Hey TaylormadeLuv, Callaway showed low and forward works in the Xhot fairway woods with the standing wave tech in the head, specifically the 3 deep, ya know that club he won The Open Championship with.

Oh and BTW the new stick coming out from Callaway will create lower spin, more ball speed, and has higher MOI then the SLDR. Physics at work and even TM can't get around them ;-) Enjoy
[/quote]
You are not necessarily correct in your last statement in total and much less in actual application. You have made almost 100 of the first 400 posts here. Much of this Hype has been produced by 4 or 5 different posters.
We understand that there is a lot of internal excitement about the promise of this club. But it will only work (hopefully?) for those whose game it fits. If it were the "end-all" club, Callaway would not have 5 or 6 drivers for 2014, there would be one!
The true test will come from hitting it and if it is all that is imagined (at least for the better players then we will see it in the bags of Tour players all over the world who don't have other driver contracts instead of the TMs that dominate now.
Then all those crowing now can then have something real to speak of. But until then all of this is random conjecture.
By the way the competition (not just TM) has already seen and tested these to some extent. It is very hard to keep absolute secrets in Carlsbad.
[/quote]

Nothing I said is untrue in fact I"m the only person in this conversation that is giving it to people straight. Your last statement about TM testing this driver is complete nonsense and I know that for a fact. NO ONE in any company has this driver. I have my facts straight, do you?

[hayzooos]

[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1385110682' post='8188848']
[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385085918' post='8187308']
Hey TaylormadeLuv, Callaway showed low and forward works in the Xhot fairway woods with the standing wave tech in the head, specifically the 3 deep, ya know that club he won The Open Championship with.

Oh and BTW the new stick coming out from Callaway will create lower spin, more ball speed, and has higher MOI then the SLDR. Physics at work and even TM can't get around them ;-) Enjoy
[/quote]
You are not necessarily correct in your last statement in total and much less in actual application. You have made almost 100 of the first 400 posts here. Much of this Hype has been produced by 4 or 5 different posters.
We understand that there is a lot of internal excitement about the promise of this club. But it will only work (hopefully?) for those whose game it fits. If it were the "end-all" club, Callaway would not have 5 or 6 drivers for 2014, there would be one!
The true test will come from hitting it and if it is all that is imagined (at least for the better players then we will see it in the bags of Tour players all over the world who don't have other driver contracts instead of the TMs that dominate now.
Then all those crowing now can then have something real to speak of. But until then all of this is random conjecture.
By the way the competition (not just TM) has already seen and tested these to some extent. It is very hard to keep absolute secrets in Carlsbad.
[/quote]

While I can agree with most of your post, a big reason TM dominates in driver count (among those w/o contracts) is because they also happen to pay the most tee up money, right? If I weren't under contract I'd be looking for some sort of guarantee $$ that week to maybe cover a few expenses. One company offers me $1,500 and another offers $500 (or nothing) it's a pretty quick decision what driver I'm going to put in play.

Do I think this driver will be an "end-all" as you put it? Nope, not even close. I think it will be a great fit for, honestly, a smaller section of golfing industry, but I think it will fit them very well. I don't think there's been a driver that fits 'everyone' and I don't think we'll ever see it. People are just too different.

[J13]

[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1385136122' post='8190030']
[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1385110682' post='8188848']
[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385085918' post='8187308']
Hey TaylormadeLuv, Callaway showed low and forward works in the Xhot fairway woods with the standing wave tech in the head, specifically the 3 deep, ya know that club he won The Open Championship with.

Oh and BTW the new stick coming out from Callaway will create lower spin, more ball speed, and has higher MOI then the SLDR. Physics at work and even TM can't get around them ;-) Enjoy
[/quote]
You are not necessarily correct in your last statement in total and much less in actual application. You have made almost 100 of the first 400 posts here. Much of this Hype has been produced by 4 or 5 different posters.
We understand that there is a lot of internal excitement about the promise of this club. But it will only work (hopefully?) for those whose game it fits. If it were the "end-all" club, Callaway would not have 5 or 6 drivers for 2014, there would be one!
The true test will come from hitting it and if it is all that is imagined (at least for the better players then we will see it in the bags of Tour players all over the world who don't have other driver contracts instead of the TMs that dominate now.
Then all those crowing now can then have something real to speak of. But until then all of this is random conjecture.
By the way the competition (not just TM) has already seen and tested these to some extent. It is very hard to keep absolute secrets in Carlsbad.
[/quote]

While I can agree with most of your post, a big reason TM dominates in driver count (among those w/o contracts) is because they also happen to pay the most tee up money, right? If I weren't under contract I'd be looking for some sort of guarantee $$ that week to maybe cover a few expenses. One company offers me $1,500 and another offers $500 (or nothing) it's a pretty quick decision what driver I'm going to put in play.

Do I think this driver will be an "end-all" as you put it? Nope, not even close. I think it will be a great fit for, honestly, a smaller section of golfing industry, but I think it will fit them very well. I don't think there's been a driver that fits 'everyone' and I don't think we'll ever see it. People are just too different.
[/quote]

Funny thing is who ever said this was the end all be all and a one size fits all? I know I've said plenty of times there are different product lines for different needs. The driver in question is going to be for the player who wants the utmost control on spin. Again this driver is special because it's a first and people are excited. I'm pulling my hair out just trying to help people have a clear picture of what to expect. So much misinformation from interesting sources.

[hectorj]

[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385134472' post='8189898']
[quote name='MCoz' timestamp='1385110682' post='8188848']
[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385085918' post='8187308']
Hey TaylormadeLuv, Callaway showed low and forward works in the Xhot fairway woods with the standing wave tech in the head, specifically the 3 deep, ya know that club he won The Open Championship with.

Oh and BTW the new stick coming out from Callaway will create lower spin, more ball speed, and has higher MOI then the SLDR. Physics at work and even TM can't get around them ;-) Enjoy
[/quote]
You are not necessarily correct in your last statement in total and much less in actual application. You have made almost 100 of the first 400 posts here. Much of this Hype has been produced by 4 or 5 different posters.
We understand that there is a lot of internal excitement about the promise of this club. But it will only work (hopefully?) for those whose game it fits. If it were the "end-all" club, Callaway would not have 5 or 6 drivers for 2014, there would be one!
The true test will come from hitting it and if it is all that is imagined (at least for the better players then we will see it in the bags of Tour players all over the world who don't have other driver contracts instead of the TMs that dominate now.
Then all those crowing now can then have something real to speak of. But until then all of this is random conjecture.
By the way the competition (not just TM) has already seen and tested these to some extent. It is very hard to keep absolute secrets in Carlsbad.
[/quote]

Nothing I said is untrue in fact I"m the only person in this conversation that is giving it to people straight. Your last statement about TM testing this driver is complete nonsense and I know that for a fact. NO ONE in any company has this driver. I have my facts straight, do you?
[/quote]

Only one giving it straight? Holy cow. At least we know what your purchase price is. A trip to Vegas.