When did Ping start making Reminder grips using tape?

NessismNessism To measure is to know...Members Posts: 18,200 ✭✭
edited Mar 12, 2019 10:56pm in WRX Club Techs #1
Pulled grips off some G410's and was surprised to find this? When did they starting making reminder grips using tape?



Ping G400 driver w/Adila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
Cobra F7 5 wood w/Aldila Black 70S
TEE Pro 21* hybrid (hook machine)
Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S (i200 backups)
Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"

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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,166 ✭✭
    Hum. That’s different.
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  • weavej1weavej1 Posts: 88 ✭✭
    I am still trying to figure out why reminder grips are making a come back.
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    Pure fit Raw ID 4 wood
    Ping rapture 21 degree
    4-9 ping zing with aerotech regular
    50;54;58 ping tour wedges
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  • TommyjTommyj Members Posts: 337 ✭✭
    Seems like a lot of added work for Ping. Can't imagine they are doing this on all clubs instead of just using the Tour Velvets with reminder.



    A question on Ping grips: when you order on line you can select the Tour Velvet grip by colour code, same as what Ping used to have for their proprietary grips. Does anyone know if the colour codes represent different grips, or is it all the same grip with different amounts of buildup?
  • gongshow44gongshow44 Posts: 239 ✭✭
    Tommyj wrote:


    Seems like a lot of added work for Ping. Can't imagine they are doing this on all clubs instead of just using the Tour Velvets with reminder.



    A question on Ping grips: when you order on line you can select the Tour Velvet grip by colour code, same as what Ping used to have for their proprietary grips. Does anyone know if the colour codes represent different grips, or is it all the same grip with different amounts of buildup?




    I was wondering the same thing. Just ordered an i500 3i with an "Aqua" tour velvet uninstalled just to see. I'll update when I receive.
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  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder Members Posts: 1,954 ✭✭
    Are you sure Ping did that? Been a while, but I usually don't see grip tape that's not spiral wrapped on a Ping factory club.
  • otwotw Doug Ferreri Posts: 305 ✭✭
    Ping color codes on grips differentiate the grip size.
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  • denkeadenkea Members Posts: 371 ✭✭
    Ness ~~~ I agree with TRHODE. Don't think Ping did this. I have never seen a factory gripping from Ping without the spiral wrap. They have even said on some videos that they won't use 2" tape because of the overlap.
  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members Posts: 18,200 ✭✭
    I'm almost certain Ping did the build up. The grips came off some G410 irons which were just released, and the grips were Ping branded. I suspect Ping buys the tape/rib from a supplier and just slaps it on. Saves money from having to stock ribbed grips.
    Ping G400 driver w/Adila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra F7 5 wood w/Aldila Black 70S
    TEE Pro 21* hybrid (hook machine)
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S (i200 backups)
    Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,166 ✭✭
    Nessism wrote:


    I'm almost certain Ping did the build up. The grips came off some G410 irons which were just released, and the grips were Ping branded. I suspect Ping buys the tape/rib from a supplier and just slaps it on. Saves money from having to stock ribbed grips.




    I don’t love to know where they get them. I use reminder Tour velvets but I have some iomic I’d like to try but they just feel wrong without reminders after 30 years of using them.



    I know Golfworks sells “spines” you can stick on. Might give those a try.
    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
  • GooseHookGooseHook Keep it Fraiche Members Posts: 11,645 ✭✭

    Nessism wrote:


    I'm almost certain Ping did the build up. The grips came off some G410 irons which were just released, and the grips were Ping branded. I suspect Ping buys the tape/rib from a supplier and just slaps it on. Saves money from having to stock ribbed grips.




    I don’t love to know where they get them. I use reminder Tour velvets but I have some iomic I’d like to try but they just feel wrong without reminders after 30 years of using them.



    I know Golfworks sells “spines” you can stick on. Might give those a try.




    I pulled one of those Golfworks spines off of a shaft pull I'd bought. It felt just like the other ribbed grips that I always use. I'd recommend them, especially if you don't mind using a little extra tape to 'tack' the spine down before gripping.
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  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members Posts: 18,200 ✭✭




    I know Golfworks sells “spines” you can stick on. Might give those a try.




    Hum, didn't know you could buy these ribs separate. The Ping ribs are quite large and create a very noticeable bump in the grip, subjectively more so than a typical reminder grip.
    Ping G400 driver w/Adila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra F7 5 wood w/Aldila Black 70S
    TEE Pro 21* hybrid (hook machine)
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S (i200 backups)
    Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,166 ✭✭
    edited Mar 13, 2019 9:33am #13
    Nessism wrote:





    I know Golfworks sells “spines” you can stick on. Might give those a try.




    Hum, didn't know you could buy these ribs separate. The Ping ribs are quite large and create a very noticeable bump in the grip, subjectively more so than a typical reminder grip.




    These guys. I’ve never used them but I imagine they’d be fine if you were very careful making them straight. A bit tedious.



    https://www.golfworks.com/the-golfworks-grip-rib-pack/p/gw0017/
    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
  • mokedaddymokedaddy Members Posts: 1,242 ✭✭
    I used those ribs until I went to leather grips. They work quite well.
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  • brianmontgomery2000brianmontgomery2000 Members Posts: 759 ✭✭

    Nessism wrote:


    I'm almost certain Ping did the build up. The grips came off some G410 irons which were just released, and the grips were Ping branded. I suspect Ping buys the tape/rib from a supplier and just slaps it on. Saves money from having to stock ribbed grips.




    I don’t love to know where they get them. I use reminder Tour velvets but I have some iomic I’d like to try but they just feel wrong without reminders after 30 years of using them.



    I know Golfworks sells “spines” you can stick on. Might give those a try.




    I've got the spines on a couple of sets -- works great and you can feel them. Only issue was it made the grips hard to blow on with air since the grip does not form a perfect seal with the shaft.
  • denkeadenkea Members Posts: 371 ✭✭
    Nessism wrote:


    I'm almost certain Ping did the build up. The grips came off some G410 irons which were just released, and the grips were Ping branded. I suspect Ping buys the tape/rib from a supplier and just slaps it on. Saves money from having to stock ribbed grips.




    Ness ~~~ Give Ping a call with the serial numbers. They should be able to tell you exactly how they were built. I'd be interested to hear what they say. Also if they deviate by more than .040" they would be nonconforming.
  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TNMembers Posts: 613 ✭✭
    Every grip installed by PING that I've ever seen AND been fortunate to visit their factory in Phoenix to see first hand... uses 3/4" tape and spiraled around the shaft. Unless they've changed their installation techniques which is quite possible.



    GP Tour Velvet grips made for PING are made to size and indicated by the color end cap, just as the PING grips are. If I'd have to guess its possible that GP is just making round grips for PING and now a rib has to be "manufactured" using the strips.
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  • Steele47Steele47 Members Posts: 1,244 ✭✭
    Nessism wrote:


    I'm almost certain Ping did the build up. The grips came off some G410 irons which were just released, and the grips were Ping branded. I suspect Ping buys the tape/rib from a supplier and just slaps it on. Saves money from having to stock ribbed grips.






    I'm guessing you bought the G410's used? Also, I've never seen this either from Ping having had several sets over the years having regripped them all myself.
  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members Posts: 18,200 ✭✭
    Time change gentleman. The grips are Ping 360 ID8 Gold and I'm pretty sure these clubs are dead stock.
    Ping G400 driver w/Adila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra F7 5 wood w/Aldila Black 70S
    TEE Pro 21* hybrid (hook machine)
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S (i200 backups)
    Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • farmerfarmer Members Posts: 7,781 ✭✭
    sampga1976 wrote:


    Every grip installed by PING that I've ever seen AND been fortunate to visit their factory in Phoenix to see first hand... uses 3/4" tape and spiraled around the shaft. Unless they've changed their installation techniques which is quite possible.



    GP Tour Velvet grips made for PING are made to size and indicated by the color end cap, just as the PING grips are. If I'd have to guess its possible that GP is just making round grips for PING and now a rib has to be "manufactured" using the strips.
    I have some G30's with graphite that I regripped, and they had some weird clear tape. I pulled stock Ping grips off, I assume these were factory installs.
  • NPVWhizNPVWhiz Members Posts: 1,976 ✭✭
    Nessism wrote:


    Time change gentleman. The grips are Ping 360 ID8 Gold and I'm pretty sure these clubs are dead stock.




    Maybe the original purchaser had a preference for that exact grip but likes a rib, and a 360 model isn’t going to come with a rib, so they improvised and delivered. Could be the purchase had the 360 on the woods and wanted the same grip but with a rib. Not too hard to do.
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  • WanLeftyWanLefty Members Posts: 461 ✭✭
    I always though ping wound their tape on using that machine where they "twang" the shaft and use the rotation to wind on the tape.



    Seems unlikely to be aftermarket if it's the 410 range and just released.



    Wan
  • WoodersonWooderson Posts: 1,972 ✭✭
    Nessism wrote:


    Time change gentleman. The grips are Ping 360 ID8 Gold and I'm pretty sure these clubs are dead stock.




    I would bet a Coke that the original buyer asked for the grips in the box and then installed the tape rib.
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  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members Posts: 18,200 ✭✭
    You guys were right! Grips shipped loose.








    A0F21922 G410 5-9PWUW IRONS 1.00 28141 2285674

    Shaft TT XP 95 S300

    Shaft Step STEP 1 STIFF

    Length STD

    CLRCD/LIE ORANGE

    Grip ID8-GOLD

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    Ping G400 driver w/Adila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra F7 5 wood w/Aldila Black 70S
    TEE Pro 21* hybrid (hook machine)
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S (i200 backups)
    Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • LaymanMLaymanM Cincinnati, OHMembers Posts: 2,097 ✭✭

    Good call! My g410 irons with Tour Velvet are not ribbed but the Glide Stealth 2.0 with Tour Velvet were def ribbed by PING. These were stock in shrink wrap wedges.

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    PING G410 5w PX Evenflow Black 85 6.0
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    PING Stealth Glide 2.0 50ss/54ss/58ss
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