Mizuno MP-20 HMB - July 2019

[Albatross85]

Got my custom ordered split set in the mail today with 5/6 being HMB. I will share that these are not easily bent. I ordered them std loft b/c im going to check them anyways on my machine. When attempting to get them 2* weaker they required alot more force. Nothing crazy but just thought i would share.

They look fantastic! Headed out on a golf trip next we to CA and cant wait to see how they perform.

[Jnardelean19]

Can't wait to get fitted in March! hoping that these will be in the running with the Titleist 620 MB/CB

[kerila07]

HMBs are way different than the cb/mbs highly doubt they would perform similar for you.

[Jnardelean19]

I am looking at blending MB/HMB in the mizuno. I play TMB currently but need to get back to a blade in the shorter irons.

[Lycokayaker]

How are these compared to the jpx 919 forged. Played a few rounds with the forged and loved them. However these are super appealing

[cookszn]

How many of you play a full set of HMB? I was thinking of doing this. I'm currently playing off of a 9

[North Texas]

@cookszn
Around the same handicap as you and I'm playing 4-PW in the HMB. Had originally ordered 5-PW and was playing a JPX 800 pro 4i. Liked the HMB's so much I went ahead and ordered the 4i.

[Hammer22]

Like these much better than the 919F. They feel softer, are more forgiving, and just look so much better. Probably helps that I changed shaft flex going to the HMB,s (was launching too high), but I never really warmed up to the 919F like I thought I would.Am a few strokes lower than you in the index and went with the full set of HMB's. While the MB's look nice, the HMB's are going to offer just a bit more forgiveness which is beneficial to everyone. Setting them side by side on the ground, there is almost no difference in the look either. Unless you are a very consistent ball striker (pretty much everyone on WRX, of course), skip the MB and go HMB.

[Jut]

Full set of HMBs here also. Love ‘em.

[dachtor]

I'm a 1 index and have played the 900 forged for the last 3 years, which exceeds the longest I've ever had a set of irons in the bag by about 2 years . That said, I want to love these HMB's, but I spent about 3 hours on a simulator this week trying every shaft combo possible and simply could not replicate the performance of my 900 forged. Standard lofts on the 900 forged are about 1 degree stronger, but I weakened them years ago as I was simply hitting the PW too far, so lofts shouldn't be the difference. During the comparison, ball speed was higher by about 2 mph on average for the 900 forged. I will say that the HMB's launched a few degrees higher and spun slightly more. I will say that I could use a bit more spin, but I play really firm and fast greens and even though my spin is lower than the 5i/5000 rpm, 7i/7000 rpm's model, I don't have a problem holding greens.

When I went to the MMC's with $ taper, numbers were better than HMB and overall distance was better (close to 900 forged), but I lost some forgiveness. I'm not sure what to do.

Project X LZ 6.0's in my 900 forged. Has anybody had a similar experience and found a different shaft will solve the problem? I tried the LZ, AMT, $ taper, but did not try the Modus 120 as I was afraid it would only make the problem worse.

Edit: The obvious answer is "keep what I've got" but the problem is the grooves on the 8-PW are gone and I'm due for new grips, which I don't want to do if I'm not keeping these. Maybe the grooves are part of the reason I'm hitting them so far, but I don't feel like yardages have changed that much over time.

[reider69]

I have also been playing 900 forged for 3 years and have hit many other irons since including my friends MP 18 MMCs and the MP 20 MMcs at PGASS. The 900 forged are just so easy to work, crazy long and toe hits(my miss) lose very little. The MMCs look great and feel soft like a Mizzy but they are a notch down in forgiveness imo. I actually prefer the feel of 900 forged as they feel powerful yet soft. If I struck the middle more often I would buy a set with a slightly smaller profile like the MMC but I need the forgiveness. I was disappointed with the shape of the 919 forged and felt that line took a huge step back in terms of aesthetics. I am hoping the 920s this fall will rectify this as I am itching for a new set. Maybe you could get P-8 heads on the bay and make it one more summer until the 920s come out.

[srksi]

Have floated up to 13.1. Went from mmc MP 18 to hmb MP 20.

[Noodler]

Just received my new shafts from Japan for my MP-20 HMB build. Unfortunately won't be able to get to them until after a trip to FL and a ski trip. First world problems. ;)

[dachtor]

920’s huh? I see a few Japanese sets on eBay. Interesting! May just pu another set of 900 forged as a temporary solution and then wait and see.

[Warrick]

I went from 900F to 919T, could not be happier. They are more compact than 900F, more forgiving than 900T, great blend.

[gbright10]

I'm a 13 handicap and play a full set of HMBs. Occasionally, I'll substitute 4-6 in the 919 HM. I have used 919 forged in the past. The HMBs are more forgiving and feel slightly better than the 919 forged, IMO. Both are very good irons but the HMBs are one of the best sets I have ever played. They look fantastic in the bag and behind the ball, have a good level of forgiveness and feel amazing. On a side note, the 919HMs are by far the best game improvement iron I have ever used, so easy to hit and unmatched feel for this category of iron.

[stoneydukes]

I play to a 9 and play the full set. Love them

[getinthehole1987]

I just ordered a combo set of mp-20’s. I went mb 7 thru pitch and hmb 6 thru 3. They felt amazing on the simulator but I will give a update after a true round.

[Soccerrick10]

I’d be interested in hearing what shafts and how they work out for you. I like to tinker...

[Noodler]

Nothing extravagant, it's just less expensive to get Nippon shafts directly from dealers in Japan than buying them over here in the States (even from eBay). So there's the big secret. ;)

[drscott266]

How would everyone think these compare the Titleist T100’s in terms of playability? I know they compare more closely to the T200, but I am curious if they are more forgiving than the T100? I like the look of the HMB in person, but want to make sure I am not making a lateral move ideally... looking for easier launch and a level of off center forgiveness. Have played AP2 as long as I can remember, so that is my benchmark for forgiveness level I feel is ok for me. Thanks for any advice!

[scb_]

the HMB are definitely more forgiving than the t100

[drscott266]

Thanks, they seem similar to my set of P790’s but hopefully a bit trimmed down and more consistent. I need more help than the T100’s offer most bad days

[Hammer22]

An even bigger secret is that you can send your irons to Mizuno and the cost to re-shaft them is $20 per club - including the grip.

My relatively new HMB's went back since I didn't listen to the Optimizer and go with the Modus 120 in X (others suggested in X as well, but I like the 120 and have used them for several years per the last generation Optimizer). Went S since I was afraid to beat up my elbows - turns out I hit the 120 in that flex a bit too high and spinny. It still wasn't a bad deal to have Mizuno do the work. Live and learn.

[Noodler]

Good to know. Although I never buy my clubs at retail; only buy components and build my sets.

[Hammer22]

I think you can send any Mizuno set back to them, but can't say to 100% certainty that they have to have been purchased through a vendor or custom order first. In any case, it's good to have friends in the industry as to avoid paying retail since my days of building clubs are long past.

[Soccerrick10]

Now there’s a guy speaking my language. I’d REALLY like to know more...

I'm trying out the new NS Pro 950 Neo since at my age, I need a lighter weight shaft. So far, I love them in the 790 2019’s. I’ve yet to try them in the HMB. They are smooth and perfect for those new heads. I was struggling to get height in the 2019’s. But, these Look like they solved that issue.

I'm not certain how they’ll work in the HMB since ball height was not a problem from my early testing. I do love the consistency of the HMB’s.

[Soccerrick10]

Or, for about $20 in materials, do many sets yourself. Also, I install my grips with compressed air so I can move them to another shaft if they are still good.

My goal is to be able to test any configuration of head, weights, ferrules, shafts and/or grips I want under my control.

[srksi]

I’ve gone back and forth with 5-P hmb or substituting 8-P from both 18 and 20 mmc sets. Yesterday full hmb bag and shot 39-39. The hmb 5 iron is a godsend. Hit one to 3.5 feet for birdie dead into a 2 club wind. The reduction of side spin with these is amazing.

all my mizzy 18 and 20 irons have the same specs, Including fli hi - 3 up 1/2 over recoil 95 f3. The fli hi launched 2* lower than 18 mmc on trackman. Saw CV at the show and told him my hmb were 2* higher than mmc where the fli hi where lower and he agreed.

thanks again Vosh! Be well

 

the mizzy putters are nice, but 34” is a no go. I’ll stick with my mizzy tpm. It was classy of mizzy to have them in the booth to honor their place in history.

[drscott266]

I’m excited by this, got a full set coming and can’t wait to put them in play. Nice to know the MMC or MB’s can mix in well with a small loft adjustment.