Notah says Tiger 50/50 for the Masters

[crazy8golfer]

[quote name='tiger1bearhawk2' timestamp='1427383442' post='11220285']
Tiger has been busting his tale at Medalist for those asking about no sightings. Everyday for hours upon hours. Confirmed by a few people who play at Medalist such as Olin Brown and Rosaforte, so he is truly working as hard as ever at this moment.
[/quote]I don't really care...

[nbg352]

[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1427391616' post='11221333']
[quote name='nbg352' timestamp='1427391081' post='11221271']
[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1427390233' post='11221183']
[quote name='nbg352' timestamp='1427386476' post='11220669']
In all honesty, when I saw Woods chipping so horribly and I thought of all his other injuries and what appears to be an unusually steady decline, I can manage to think of only one thing. Muhammed Ali.
I truly hope it is a grossly overstated thought......
[/quote]
So, because he chipped poorly, in the span of a month, you think Tiger has full on Parkinson's disease?
[/quote]
We watched Ali deteriorate over a relatively short period of time. We all know how that turned out.
I fear for Woods long term health. I hope I am wrong and that your incredulty is justified.
[/quote]
People on these forums would just say he's faking it.
[/quote]
Yeah, well.........

[bscinstnct]

Tigerrrrrrr!

 

[rpl1971]

[quote name='crazy8golfer' timestamp='1427391761' post='11221353']
[quote name='tiger1bearhawk2' timestamp='1427383442' post='11220285']
Tiger has been busting his tale at Medalist for those asking about no sightings. Everyday for hours upon hours. Confirmed by a few people who play at Medalist such as Olin Brown and Rosaforte, so he is truly working as hard as ever at this moment.
[/quote]I don't really care...
[/quote]

But you cant help making your opinion can you ???? Pathos

[Smith65]

They should give Tiger's invitation to someone who is fully committed to playing in this very prestigious tournament.

[nbg352]

[quote name='Smith65' timestamp='1427394836' post='11221743']
They should give Tiger's invitation to someone who is fully committed to playing in this very prestigious tournament.
[/quote]
He has until tomorrow to confirm. If he says no, they'll pass it on.

[Shilgy]

[quote name='Playaway' timestamp='1427383746' post='11220329']
[quote name='Matt J' timestamp='1427382311' post='11220071']
All you guys who overemphasize the "yips" because you personally had them are comparing apples and oranges. He chunked or skulled a few chips and pitches. It's not like he got paralyzed over the ball.

If I'm out on a Sunday afternoon throwing the old pig skin around with some buddies, I don't say, "but AJ Green makes his cut more like this." I know that AJ runs a 4.5 sec 40 yard dash and I run a 5 flat on my best day. [b][color=#ff0000] Tiger has a little different golf game than you, both mentally and physically.[/color][/b] He can do lots of things you can't do. Don't let your Puritanical disdain for his personal life cloud your judgement concerning his abilities with a golf club.

Regardless, I don't care if we ever see Tiger at Augusta again. I'd watch every year, hopefully in person some years.
[/quote]

[b][color=#FF0000]Tiger has a little different golf game than you, both mentally and physically [/color][/b]

That's right. His game is different. But those yips I saw are some of the worst I have ever seen on any competent player, at any level.

If anything his yips have been downplayed.

He shows the classical signs of yips, serious yips.

Starts laying the sod over it. That means he hits the chip fat or chunks it. It goes literally a few feet when his plan was for it to fly 15 or 20 feet. He's done that frequently.

Then, he tries to compensate for it and starts blading shots, trying not to hit the chip fat. Blading means that he hits the ball with the bottom flange and the ball flies like a line drive because it was not hit on the lofted club face. This compensation validates that the yips are imprinted on him. The media is playing it down because they know the cash cow might be done. They are riding the wave all the way to the beach.

Even with Tiger's big runaway wins early in his career, his average win margin in majors is like 1 or 2 shots. And I am sure that he will not yip every chip he looks at. What WILL happen is his short game (inside 100 feet) will not look the same. He will play more straightforward vanilla type shots. And he will not be looking to "make" but rather to not "miss". Big difference. That part alone might add 4 or 5 shots per event. And that would be a conservative guess.

Yea, his game and my game are different, but not as different as it was before he got the yips.
[/quote]Actually his average margin is 4.14 and that is counting three playoff victories as ties. And will he come back from whatever was the issue, yips or otherwise? no one know at this point, not even Tiger. The one obvious thing is that both those that like or dislike him and eagerly wondering.

[eagle1997]

[eagle1997]

[quote name='Matt J' timestamp='1427382311' post='11220071']
I know that AJ runs a 4.5 sec 40 yard dash and [b]I run a 5 flat on my best day[/b].
[/quote]

love it! this is second level, inceptionesque PB-erry.

take notes, people.

[hogans71]

[quote name='nbg352' timestamp='1427395015' post='11221771']
[quote name='Smith65' timestamp='1427394836' post='11221743']
They should give Tiger's invitation to someone who is fully committed to playing in this very prestigious tournament.
[/quote]
He has until tomorrow to confirm. If he says no, they'll pass it on.
[/quote]


Basically, he can w/d at any time but the spot will not be filled? After tomorrow, of course...

[Playaway]

[quote name='Shilgy' timestamp='1427396141' post='11221891']
[quote name='Playaway' timestamp='1427383746' post='11220329']
[quote name='Matt J' timestamp='1427382311' post='11220071']
All you guys who overemphasize the "yips" because you personally had them are comparing apples and oranges. He chunked or skulled a few chips and pitches. It's not like he got paralyzed over the ball.

If I'm out on a Sunday afternoon throwing the old pig skin around with some buddies, I don't say, "but AJ Green makes his cut more like this." I know that AJ runs a 4.5 sec 40 yard dash and I run a 5 flat on my best day. [b][color=#ff0000] Tiger has a little different golf game than you, both mentally and physically.[/color][/b] He can do lots of things you can't do. Don't let your Puritanical disdain for his personal life cloud your judgement concerning his abilities with a golf club.

Regardless, I don't care if we ever see Tiger at Augusta again. I'd watch every year, hopefully in person some years.
[/quote]

[b][color=#FF0000]Tiger has a little different golf game than you, both mentally and physically [/color][/b]

That's right. His game is different. But those yips I saw are some of the worst I have ever seen on any competent player, at any level.

If anything his yips have been downplayed.

He shows the classical signs of yips, serious yips.

Starts laying the sod over it. That means he hits the chip fat or chunks it. It goes literally a few feet when his plan was for it to fly 15 or 20 feet. He's done that frequently.

Then, he tries to compensate for it and starts blading shots, trying not to hit the chip fat. Blading means that he hits the ball with the bottom flange and the ball flies like a line drive because it was not hit on the lofted club face. This compensation validates that the yips are imprinted on him. The media is playing it down because they know the cash cow might be done. They are riding the wave all the way to the beach.

Even with Tiger's big runaway wins early in his career, his average win margin in majors is like 1 or 2 shots. And I am sure that he will not yip every chip he looks at. What WILL happen is his short game (inside 100 feet) will not look the same. He will play more straightforward vanilla type shots. And he will not be looking to "make" but rather to not "miss". Big difference. That part alone might add 4 or 5 shots per event. And that would be a conservative guess.

Yea, his game and my game are different, but not as different as it was before he got the yips.
[/quote]Actually his average margin is 4.14 and that is counting three playoff victories as ties. And will he come back from whatever was the issue, yips or otherwise? no one know at this point, not even Tiger. The one obvious thing is that both those that like or dislike him and eagerly wondering.
[/quote]

Well, the average I had heard must have been WITHOUT the larger margin wins early in his career. Sorry about that.

[Lennon Mccartney]

[quote name='nbg352' timestamp='1427395015' post='11221771']
[quote name='Smith65' timestamp='1427394836' post='11221743']
They should give Tiger's invitation to someone who is fully committed to playing in this very prestigious tournament.
[/quote]
He has until tomorrow to confirm. If he says no, they'll pass it on.
[/quote]
is this accurate? i have no idea either way...just seems like the press would be writing a lot of articles the day before the deadline about the "deadline"

[Shilgy]

^^ no problem. I had to look it up as well. Recap is:
3 playoff
1 1 stroke margin
3 2 strokes
2 3 strokes
2 5 strokes
plus an 8, 12 and of course the 15 stroke margin at 2000 US Open

[golfhack13]

[quote name='Smith65' timestamp='1427394836' post='11221743']
They should give Tiger's invitation to someone who is fully committed to playing in this very prestigious tournament.
[/quote]


You make it sound like this "invitation" was a favor or something. I am pretty sure he has earned it.

[rafal]

[quote name='golfhack13' timestamp='1427387716' post='11220839']
[quote name='DavePelz4' timestamp='1427387484' post='11220805']
[quote name='Bluefan75' timestamp='1427386751' post='11220715']
I'm just shocked that a talking head on Golf Channel, who spent how much time on tour and really didn't do that much, by virtue of having been at a school when someone arrived years later, is now "Notah." One name only.

Or is this like those checkout stand magazines where every celebrity is referred to by first name as if they're everyone's friends or something?
[/quote]

When his full name is used some people are unsure of his "orientation."
[/quote]


Take a bow! Ladies and Gentleman, DavePelz4!!
[/quote]

He's here well, um, every damn day!

[Smith65]

[quote name='golfhack13' timestamp='1427397677' post='11222055']
[quote name='Smith65' timestamp='1427394836' post='11221743']
They should give Tiger's invitation to someone who is fully committed to playing in this very prestigious tournament.
[/quote]


You make it sound like this "invitation" was a favor or something. I am pretty sure he has earned it.
[/quote]

He is healthy and qualified, he shouldn't be playing games with the Tournament Committee like this. Not cool. But this is Tiger.

[cphrey]

I'm a tiger fan, I admit it, but it'd be funny if he played the Par 3 tourney and W/D after 5 holes.

Is tomorrow really the day he needs to say yes or no? Truly, I hope he plays and plays well. I don't expect him to contend but making the cut and finishing top 25 would be a nice start.

[Matt J]

[quote name='DavePelz4' timestamp='1427385706' post='11220561']
[quote name='Matt J' timestamp='1427384434' post='11220409']
[quote name='Playaway' timestamp='1427383746' post='11220329']
[quote name='Matt J' timestamp='1427382311' post='11220071']
All you guys who overemphasize the "yips" because you personally had them are comparing apples and oranges. He chunked or skulled a few chips and pitches. It's not like he got paralyzed over the ball.

If I'm out on a Sunday afternoon throwing the old pig skin around with some buddies, I don't say, "but AJ Green makes his cut more like this." I know that AJ runs a 4.5 sec 40 yard dash and I run a 5 flat on my best day. [b][color=#ff0000] Tiger has a little different golf game than you, both mentally and physically.[/color][/b] He can do lots of things you can't do. Don't let your Puritanical disdain for his personal life cloud your judgement concerning his abilities with a golf club.

Regardless, I don't care if we ever see Tiger at Augusta again. I'd watch every year, hopefully in person some years.
[/quote]

[b][color=#FF0000]Tiger has a little different golf game than you, both mentally and physically [/color][/b]

That's right. His game is different. But those yips I saw are some of the worst I have ever seen on any competent player, at any level.

If anything his yips have been downplayed.

He shows the classical signs of yips, serious yips.

Starts laying the sod over it. That means he hits the chip fat or chunks it. It goes literally a few feet when his plan was for it to fly 15 or 20 feet. He's done that frequently.

Then, he tries to compensate for it and starts blading shots, trying not to hit the chip fat. Blading means that he hits the ball with the bottom flange and the ball flies like a line drive because it was not hit on the lofted club face. This compensation validates that the yips are imprinted on him. The media is playing it down because they know the cash cow might be done. They are riding the wave all the way to the beach.

Even with Tiger's big runaway wins early in his career, his average win margin in majors is like 1 or 2 shots. And I am sure that he will not yip every chip he looks at. What WILL happen is his short game (inside 100 feet) will not look the same. He will play more straightforward vanilla type shots. And he will not be looking to "make" but rather to not "miss". Big difference. That part alone might add 4 or 5 shots per event. And that would be a conservative guess.

Yea, his game and my game are different, but not as different as it was before he got the yips.
[/quote]

Agree to disagree. At his best he could lay a 60* wedge open on the tightest of lies and plunk it down within 4" of the cup 9 of 10 times. He has lots of good memories of that deadly short game in the bank to counteract the 25 bad shots he hit in 3 events.

I think it's a little "glass is half full vs. half empty" I watched all three performances and feel like if he can slow his tempo down a little, play the cut off the tee, and hone that short game he'll at least make the cut. I think by the British Open he could contend.
[/quote]

Matt which do you think is more important for TW and which is more important for you? The history of past success to draw upon or the current results which might not be solid as you'd like?
[/quote]

I think most world class golfer have a pretty short memory. As for me I don't really have a dog in the fight. If he never picked a club up again I wouldn't think twice about it. I'm just saying I wouldn't want to be in the camp of counting him out. If he can get over a couple of mental hurdles, like trying to keep up with the long ball, he could be very dangerous again. If that happens there will be enough crow for the whole "yips" crowd to eat.

[pinehurst]

Of coarse Tiger is going to play in the Masters. I'm not sure why Notah is even trying to add drama to this. Is anyone stressing about whether former champions Mark O'Meara, or Sandy Lyle are going to play? Every year a third of the Master's field have no chance to win, so who cares. If you are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to play in it, go play and have some fun.

[masegolf1978]

No doubt there are some that can go out and beat it around, shoot 78 and have fun playing a major championship they once won, and simply enjoy one of, if not the, most beautiful golf courses in the world. I don't think tiger is one of those people....

[DTXgolfer12]

50% is also tiger's GIR percentage when chipping this year

[c7015]

[quote name='DTXgolfer12' timestamp='1427433556' post='11225655']
50% is also tiger's GIR percentage when chipping this year
[/quote]

I get that you're trying to make a joke ... but i'm going to be pedantic and say if you're chipping chances are good that GIR is out of the realm of possibilities...

[Pauly567]

Great, his game is getting back to form. HOWEVER, last I checked he withdrew from a tournament because he was forced to start and stop his warm-up due to a rain delay....how's that whole back thing Tiger? We better hope it doesn't rain!

Bottom line, it doesn't matter where his game is. His back in a time-bomb waiting to happen. Forgive my conspiracy theories, but his back is far more screwed up then he ever let on; and if they didn't have him healthy for February (a year after his surgery), what makes people think this year will be any different in terms of the injuries.

[DTXgolfer12]

[quote name='c7015' timestamp='1427463055' post='11226569']
[quote name='DTXgolfer12' timestamp='1427433556' post='11225655']
50% is also tiger's GIR percentage when chipping this year
[/quote]

I get that you're trying to make a joke ... but i'm going to be pedantic and say if you're chipping chances are good that GIR is out of the realm of possibilities...
[/quote]

Yes i know.......

[3jacker]

TW is a drama queen at this point in his career.

He's the Kim Kardashian of golf.

[tjumper78]

this probably means he'll play but withdraw after a round or two due to injuries, right?

[3jacker]

He'll wiffle and waffle to make sure he's relevant,
then not play at all.

[Barto78]

[quote name='3jacker' timestamp='1427469060' post='11227347']
He'll wiffle and waffle to make sure he's relevant,
then not play at all.
[/quote]

You must be really be a TW hater. Sheesh.....

[nbg352]

[quote name='3jacker' timestamp='1427469060' post='11227347']
He'll wiffle and waffle to make sure he's relevant,
then not play at all.
[/quote]
Yawn.....

[Smith65]

[quote name='3jacker' timestamp='1427468267' post='11227229']
TW is a drama queen at this point in his career.

He's the Kim Kardashian of golf.
[/quote]


Kim has better glutes.