#Releasetheputter - The Method Appreciation and Info Thread - (NO BST)

[5hort5tuff]

There really shouldn't be bedlam with the Origin being released in mass to retail. My guess is they will not fly off the shelves as most people won't be spending $300 on a Nike putter.

 

BTW I need a Rory 006...

 

- Josh

 

Their loss...I went from a method to a Scotty thinking the grass was greener. You couldn't pay me to put with anything else other than my Method now.

 

Tiger and Rory probably said that about their putters years ago....I guess Nike found a way to pay them enough..

[PapaMike25]

There really shouldn't be bedlam with the Origin being released in mass to retail. My guess is they will not fly off the shelves as most people won't be spending $300 on a Nike putter.

 

BTW I need a Rory 006...

 

- Josh

 

Their loss...I went from a method to a Scotty thinking the grass was greener. You couldn't pay me to put with anything else other than my Method now.

 

Tiger and Rory probably said that about their putters years ago....I guess Nike found a way to pay them enough..

 

What I am getting at is they are great putters. If they don't work for you fine, but try. What blows my mind is that people will refuse to roll them because they say Nike on them. These are the same folks who go on and on about the company making inferior equipment when they themselves couldn't tell you the difference in a 'blind' test, or have never hit a club from the company before.

[jtitleist12]

looking better and better!

 

Are these sales samples?

 

- Josh

[Flagrant]

looking better and better!

 

Are these sales samples?

 

- Josh

This pic was taken off an IG post, Im pretty sure the retail version

[Kylekoz17]

There really shouldn't be bedlam with the Origin being released in mass to retail. My guess is they will not fly off the shelves as most people won't be spending $300 on a Nike putter.

 

BTW I need a Rory 006...

 

- Josh

 

Their loss...I went from a method to a Scotty thinking the grass was greener. You couldn't pay me to put with anything else other than my Method now.

 

Tiger and Rory probably said that about their putters years ago....I guess Nike found a way to pay them enough..

 

That's funny, seeing how Tiger told Nike he won't switch unless the new one is better.

[Pure745]

There really shouldn't be bedlam with the Origin being released in mass to retail. My guess is they will not fly off the shelves as most people won't be spending $300 on a Nike putter.

 

BTW I need a Rory 006...

 

- Josh

 

Their loss...I went from a method to a Scotty thinking the grass was greener. You couldn't pay me to put with anything else other than my Method now.

 

Tiger and Rory probably said that about their putters years ago....I guess Nike found a way to pay them enough..

 

What I am getting at is they are great putters. If they don't work for you fine, but try. What blows my mind is that people will refuse to roll them because they say Nike on them. These are the same folks who go on and on about the company making inferior equipment when they themselves couldn't tell you the difference in a 'blind' test, or have never hit a club from the company before.

 

A "good" putter is so subjective. Also, just because the technology does what it says it will do, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you in a putter. I was on camera at the Oven and we were comparing skid between my 009 and the Method 006 and I made 15 in a row with my 009 (unheard of for me). It was evident that the 009 was skidding much more off the face than the 006, but I putted better with the 009. The guy at the Oven basically said the 009 was not getting the ball rolling quick enough compared to the Method, I told him I didn't care if it skidded all the way into the hole as long as it went in :)

 

I do hope to see the Origin line take off, but I definitely don't see many Nike's out in Southern California or many people using Nike in general. It's a shame because I am a bit biased towards Nike after meeting all the great people behind Nike Golf.

[GeorgeHWB]

There really shouldn't be bedlam with the Origin being released in mass to retail. My guess is they will not fly off the shelves as most people won't be spending $300 on a Nike putter.

 

BTW I need a Rory 006...

 

- Josh

 

Their loss...I went from a method to a Scotty thinking the grass was greener. You couldn't pay me to put with anything else other than my Method now.

 

Tiger and Rory probably said that about their putters years ago....I guess Nike found a way to pay them enough..

 

What I am getting at is they are great putters. If they don't work for you fine, but try. What blows my mind is that people will refuse to roll them because they say Nike on them. These are the same folks who go on and on about the company making inferior equipment when they themselves couldn't tell you the difference in a 'blind' test, or have never hit a club from the company before.

 

A "good" putter is so subjective. Also, just because the technology does what it says it will do, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you in a putter. I was on camera at the Oven and we were comparing skid between my 009 and the Method 006 and I made 15 in a row with my 009 (unheard of for me). It was evident that the 009 was skidding much more off the face than the 006, but I putted better with the 009. The guy at the Oven basically said the 009 was not getting the ball rolling quick enough compared to the Method, I told him I didn't care if it skidded all the way into the hole as long as it went in :)

 

I do hope to see the Origin line take off, but I definitely don't see many Nike's out in Southern California or many people using Nike in general. It's a shame because I am a bit biased towards Nike after meeting all the great people behind Nike Golf.

 

It doesn't surprise you had success with the 009 despite the skidding since the ball skids in a straight line (which is a documented fact). Faster roll is marketing jargon that doesn't necessarily translate to putting the ball in the hole.

[Mula]

don't know if I'll get the putter but i definitely want the headcover

[Flagrant]

don't know if I'll get the putter but i definitely want the headcover

thats a lock! Nike finally made a stock headcover nice!

[sneaky]

There really shouldn't be bedlam with the Origin being released in mass to retail. My guess is they will not fly off the shelves as most people won't be spending $300 on a Nike putter.

 

BTW I need a Rory 006...

 

- Josh

 

Their loss...I went from a method to a Scotty thinking the grass was greener. You couldn't pay me to put with anything else other than my Method now.

 

Tiger and Rory probably said that about their putters years ago....I guess Nike found a way to pay them enough..

 

What I am getting at is they are great putters. If they don't work for you fine, but try. What blows my mind is that people will refuse to roll them because they say Nike on them. These are the same folks who go on and on about the company making inferior equipment when they themselves couldn't tell you the difference in a 'blind' test, or have never hit a club from the company before.

 

A "good" putter is so subjective. Also, just because the technology does what it says it will do, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you in a putter. I was on camera at the Oven and we were comparing skid between my 009 and the Method 006 and I made 15 in a row with my 009 (unheard of for me). It was evident that the 009 was skidding much more off the face than the 006, but I putted better with the 009. The guy at the Oven basically said the 009 was not getting the ball rolling quick enough compared to the Method, I told him I didn't care if it skidded all the way into the hole as long as it went in :)

 

I do hope to see the Origin line take off, but I definitely don't see many Nike's out in Southern California or many people using Nike in general. It's a shame because I am a bit biased towards Nike after meeting all the great people behind Nike Golf.

 

15 in a row sounds pretty fantastic skidding or not. I'm a Nike fanatic except when it comes to putters. A faster roll doesn't necessarily mean a better roll. Tech doesn't translate to feel.

[wldchld22]

hoping that the origin line is the premium putter line the finally feels like one.

 

 

[wldchld22]

There really shouldn't be bedlam with the Origin being released in mass to retail. My guess is they will not fly off the shelves as most people won't be spending $300 on a Nike putter.

 

BTW I need a Rory 006...

 

- Josh

 

Their loss...I went from a method to a Scotty thinking the grass was greener. You couldn't pay me to put with anything else other than my Method now.

 

Tiger and Rory probably said that about their putters years ago....I guess Nike found a way to pay them enough..

 

What I am getting at is they are great putters. If they don't work for you fine, but try. What blows my mind is that people will refuse to roll them because they say Nike on them. These are the same folks who go on and on about the company making inferior equipment when they themselves couldn't tell you the difference in a 'blind' test, or have never hit a club from the company before.

 

A "good" putter is so subjective. Also, just because the technology does what it says it will do, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you in a putter. I was on camera at the Oven and we were comparing skid between my 009 and the Method 006 and I made 15 in a row with my 009 (unheard of for me). It was evident that the 009 was skidding much more off the face than the 006, but I putted better with the 009. The guy at the Oven basically said the 009 was not getting the ball rolling quick enough compared to the Method, I told him I didn't care if it skidded all the way into the hole as long as it went in :)

 

I do hope to see the Origin line take off, but I definitely don't see many Nike's out in Southern California or many people using Nike in general. It's a shame because I am a bit biased towards Nike after meeting all the great people behind Nike Golf.

 

Sorry for not going back to search for the answer but what kind of results did you get when they added loft to your method?

[Pure745]

It doesn't surprise you had success with the 009 despite the skidding since the ball skids in a straight line (which is a documented fact). Faster roll is marketing jargon that doesn't necessarily translate to putting the ball in the hole.

 

I actually talked to Scotty about my Rory from the Oven and we talked about the results with it. He asked about the loft, I told him just over 2˚, he said if he tweaked my 009 to 2˚ you'd see much less skid. Which makes me question how much of the polymetal grooves on the Method and how much the loft play a role in reducing skid. I don't really care that much either way, and I do like the feel of the Method, just food for thought.

[cota0429]

looking better and better!

 

Are these sales samples?

 

- Josh

 

These are the retail units.

[PapaMike25]

It doesn't surprise you had success with the 009 despite the skidding since the ball skids in a straight line (which is a documented fact). Faster roll is marketing jargon that doesn't necessarily translate to putting the ball in the hole.

 

I actually talked to Scotty about my Rory from the Oven and we talked about the results with it. He asked about the loft, I told him just over 2˚, he said if he tweaked my 009 to 2˚ you'd see much less skid. Which makes me question how much of the polymetal grooves on the Method and how much the loft play a role in reducing skid. I don't really care that much either way, and I do like the feel of the Method, just food for thought.

 

I enjoy the feel I get off the groves more than the no-skid, but my question is as a very new entry to the unbeatable game, why wouldn't you want to eliminate as much skid as possible. Regardless of with loft, grooves or other methods of PFM...skidding a ball instead of rolling it just sounds no bueno.

[jtitleist12]

Does anyone have pictures of the retail Origins from address?

[Flagrant]

I played around with the Origin B201 today for about 15 mins.

First impression, The face is very hot the ball springs off the face, ball comes off very quick, Not what im used to from my Rors 006 I left everything 5 ft past until i took a lil off of it, in which case it was good, but every time i hit the ball i felt from watching the speed it was going to blow by the hole, which it didnt but the speed felt that way.

The feel was very good, Felt the way a premium putter should feel imo.

Overall it will take some getting used to, my guess is a good amount of practice time would do the trick, Look forward to spending more time with it.

[dwboston]

It doesn't surprise you had success with the 009 despite the skidding since the ball skids in a straight line (which is a documented fact). Faster roll is marketing jargon that doesn't necessarily translate to putting the ball in the hole.

 

I actually talked to Scotty about my Rory from the Oven and we talked about the results with it. He asked about the loft, I told him just over 2˚, he said if he tweaked my 009 to 2˚ you'd see much less skid. Which makes me question how much of the polymetal grooves on the Method and how much the loft play a role in reducing skid. I don't really care that much either way, and I do like the feel of the Method, just food for thought.

 

I enjoy the feel I get off the groves more than the no-skid, but my question is as a very new entry to the unbeatable game, why wouldn't you want to eliminate as much skid as possible. Regardless of with loft, grooves or other methods of PFM...skidding a ball instead of rolling it just sounds no bueno.

 

I don't know if any manufacturer has really correlated less skid with more putts made. They don't seem to talk about it in those terms, just that it starts rolling end over end more quickly. Several years back I had a couple of Taylor Made putters with the AGSI face technology. Side by side with a "regular" faced putter on damp greens they undeniably skidded less and started rolling more quickly. Anecdotally I made fewer putts with those putters than the Newport 2.5 I used before them or when I later switched to a milled Byron 006.

 

Like Tai said, it likely comes down to the loft on the putter and there's nothing magical about not skidding.

[Pure745]

It doesn't surprise you had success with the 009 despite the skidding since the ball skids in a straight line (which is a documented fact). Faster roll is marketing jargon that doesn't necessarily translate to putting the ball in the hole.

 

I actually talked to Scotty about my Rory from the Oven and we talked about the results with it. He asked about the loft, I told him just over 2˚, he said if he tweaked my 009 to 2˚ you'd see much less skid. Which makes me question how much of the polymetal grooves on the Method and how much the loft play a role in reducing skid. I don't really care that much either way, and I do like the feel of the Method, just food for thought.

 

I enjoy the feel I get off the groves more than the no-skid, but my question is as a very new entry to the unbeatable game, why wouldn't you want to eliminate as much skid as possible. Regardless of with loft, grooves or other methods of PFM...skidding a ball instead of rolling it just sounds no bueno.

 

In theory it "gets the ball rolling sooner" which "makes the ball hold it's intended line better". But neither necessarily directly impact your ability to make putts. In my experience, I'm either really hot or cold with the Method and it 100% has to do with speed and line. Speed and line are ultimately what will make your ball go in the hole, grooves/no grooves etc. In my opinion, as I have said since the very first OvenWRX trip, it works, but it doesn't mean it will fit your style of putting and feel preference. Also, depending on the type of greens you play on is another factor in the skid/roll debate. Putters are the one club you can go lights out with a beer can attached to a stick just as much as a $10K Cameron on any given day :)

 

Drivers and irons are a different story though! Either way, I like the fact that Nike is pushing and marketing technology.

[masamitsu]

This line made me laugh out loud... "The guy at the Oven basically said the 009 was not getting the ball rolling quick enough compared to the Method, I told him I didn't care if it skidded all the way into the hole as long as it went in :)" and now my co-workers think I'm losing it....

[Flagrant]

played around with the Origin B201today for about 15 mins.

First impression, The face is very hot the ball springs off the face, comes off very quick, Not what im used to from my Rors 006 I left everything 5 ft past until i took a lil off of it, in which case it was good, but every time i hit the ball i felt from watching the speed it was going to blow by the hole.

Overall the feel was very good, It felt the way a premium putter should feel imo.

i think it will take some getting used to, my guess is a good amount of practice time would do the trick, Look forward to spending more time with it.

Also posted this in the Nike 2016 thread don't know why it should have been posted here only.

[Mitchell]

Pure,

What has been your experience with other putters with lower loft in your Mills, Byron, or Cameron options in a direct apples to apples comparison to your Method "ProtoTai"?

[TheMoneyShot]

looking better and better!

 

Magnetic or Velcro?

[Mitchell]

Personally would like to see Nike release a retail headcover with padding and heft of Method Mod cover with a magnetic closure.

[Kylekoz17]

The skidding vs rolling debate can go down to the greens conditions too. I rarely play on perfectly manicured greens, so for me it is really helpful to have it rolling quicker and at least minimize the effect of the bumpier greens

[PapaMike25]

Tai/All, Thanks for the words.

 

Bottom line for me is the feel of the method groves is great to me, and I feel more confident in a faster roll. The fact that Nike is not afraid of heavier putter heads just puts the cherry on top for me.

 

Again, I'll be the first to admit I'm a fan of the brand. Used their equipment almost exclusively for every other sport I played so it was a natural progression. That being said, I will swing every brand of club out there to see what works, no matter my loyalties...just wish more folks would do the same.

 

 

[rpaige88]

played around with the Origin B201today for about 15 mins.

First impression, The face is very hot the ball springs off the face, comes off very quick, Not what im used to from my Rors 006 I left everything 5 ft past until i took a lil off of it, in which case it was good, but every time i hit the ball i felt from watching the speed it was going to blow by the hole.

Overall the feel was very good, It felt the way a premium putter should feel imo.

i think it will take some getting used to, my guess is a good amount of practice time would do the trick, Look forward to spending more time with it.

Also posted this in the Nike 2016 thread don't know why it should have been posted here only.

 

Man I really wish they had a face balanced version of it. Love the looks of it.

[GMoney76]

The origin cover looks to be the #dontsleeponsummer cover...no?

[Pure745]

Pure,

What has been your experience with other putters with lower loft in your Mills, Byron, or Cameron options in a direct apples to apples comparison to your Method "ProtoTai"?

 

Never used a putter with such low loft till I got the Method. I could never get used to it and lost confidence with it, so went back to my Cameron. When I went back the 2nd time to the Oven I was talking to Dave and mentioned it could be that the greens I typically play here are 80% poa'anua and 20% of the time bent. He said he needed to get it up to 3.5 for the poa greens since they're so bumpy. After getting it to 3.5 it's must more of a feel thing to me at this point. I honestly can't tell the difference in roll.

[Flagrant]

looking better and better!

 

Magnetic or Velcro?

 

velcro