Ping i-e Irons?

[ei19]

[quote name='av1084' timestamp='1438113086' post='12036520'][quote name='ei19' timestamp='1438110521' post='12036300']
Mine were delivered today.
[/quote]

Where's the enthusiasm????[/quote]

Well, I'm out of town on business! I'll see them on Friday.

[Techgolfer1]

[quote name='ei19' timestamp='1438113187' post='12036530'][quote name='av1084' timestamp='1438113086' post='12036520'][quote name='ei19' timestamp='1438110521' post='12036300']
Mine were delivered today.
[/quote]

Where's the enthusiasm????[/quote]

Well, I'm out of town on business! I'll see them on Friday.[/quote]

I'd cancel all meetings and claim an emergency. Brutal!

[brunkel]

Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.

[lordemsworth]

May be best to call Ping. I'm sure they'll be able to translate this for you so you can place the order correctly.

[doubleagle2]

Well Ping has disappointed me. I preordered first thing in the morning on 7/15. Now I find out mine aren't scheduled to be shipped until next week. Half a mind to cancel the order since the rep told me if I preordered I have them in hand on 7/30.

[square]

[quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

.25" length makes a significant difference.
[color=#282828]I recommend visiting [/color][url="http://www.pinggolf.com/"]www.pinggolf.com[/url][color=#282828] [/color][color=#282828]and using the Ping web fit.Be precise in taking your height and wrist to floor measurements. The web fit will give you the correct length and lie for your physique, and these specs will set you up well to making fundamentally sound swings. Webfit will provide you with the correct specs for a new set of ie model irons[/color]
[color=#282828]Avoid the more popular "dynamic fitting", based on the sole impact and ball flight , because that method may promote swing faults.[/color][color=#282828] [/color]

[rgk5]

[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1438199404' post='12043192']
Well Ping has disappointed me. I preordered first thing in the morning on 7/15. Now I find out mine aren't scheduled to be shipped until next week. Half a mind to cancel the order since the rep told me if I preordered I have them in hand on 7/30.
[/quote]

You can't wait 17-18 days for new clubs?

[doubleagle2]

[quote name='rgk5' timestamp='1438203694' post='12043616']
[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1438199404' post='12043192']
Well Ping has disappointed me. I preordered first thing in the morning on 7/15. Now I find out mine aren't scheduled to be shipped until next week. Half a mind to cancel the order since the rep told me if I preordered I have them in hand on 7/30.
[/quote]

You can't wait 17-18 days for new clubs?
[/quote]
Yea just irritated they have already shipped some out and are shipping more tomorrow and Friday. Then the rest next week. Just find it hard to believe that many sets were ordered before mine since I ordered first thing on the first day but they say they are going in order. Plus the Ping rep told me I would have them 7/30 and they jerked me around on my last order just irritated but I guess I will wait.

[drvrwdge]

Had the chance to follow around and talk with Alex Prugh yesterday at the Quicken. He had them in the bag and said he absolutely loved them. Better turf interaction than the 25's, looked better, felt better, performed better.

[crazygolfnut]

[quote name='square' timestamp='1438202395' post='12043492'][quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

.25" length makes a significant difference.
[color=#282828]I recommend visiting [/color][url="http://www.pinggolf.com/"]www.pinggolf.com[/url][color=#282828] [/color][color=#282828]and using the Ping web fit.Be precise in taking your height and wrist to floor measurements. The web fit will give you the correct length and lie for your physique, and these specs will set you up well to making fundamentally sound swings. Webfit will provide you with the correct specs for a new set of ie model irons[/color]
[color=#282828]Avoid the more popular "dynamic fitting", based on the sole impact and ball flight , because that method may promote swing faults.[/color][color=#282828] [/color][/quote]

I have been fit about 6 times over the years. The chart says to take .25 off the shaft but after hitting balls, Black at standard length is what they recommend every time. Best to hit them.

[Harry Longshanks]

[quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

[u]Length[/u]

Were you comfortable with the length you were fit into? Was your club gapping the way you like it? Were you hitting the balls flush at that length?

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then order -1/4" in yellow color code.
If not, then consider the new length and how that might affect your swing. Specifically,lie angle.

[u]Lie Angle[/u]

Effective lie angle changes with club length. A longer club plays more upright and a shorter club plays flatter.

1/2" in length = .75° effective lie angle difference. That's the reason PING now does lie angle options (color codes) in .75° increments.

So, 1/2" length difference = one color code difference. That is[list]
[*]1/2" shorter = effective lie angle is .75° flatter = one color code down the chart; and
[*]1/2" longer = effective lie angle .75° more upright = one color code up the chart.
[/list]
Therefore, 1/4" longer = 1/2 a color code difference ( i.e., .375° difference)[list]
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "lefter" than you like, consider the next color code down.
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "righter" than you like, consider the next color code up.
[*]If your ball flight is dead on right now, you are on the PGA Tour. Congratulations, PING will be flying you to Phoenix any day now to get you fitted in their Tour player facility with Trackman and nFlight, so stop worrying. (Alternatively, just stay with your current color code because the difference is minimal.)
[/list]
Having said all that, just go get fitted and hit the clubs. The iE1 is a new head - maybe your specs aren't going to be the same as the old head.

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='av1084' timestamp='1437974030' post='12025764']
Sorry if this has been addressed, but are the Modus shafts unique to the I series or will they be available at no up charge in the Glides?
[/quote]why would you want a sub 100 gram wedge shaft?

[hokieputter]

[quote name='MJisGOAT' timestamp='1438207244' post='12043958'][quote name='av1084' timestamp='1437974030' post='12025764']
Sorry if this has been addressed, but are the Modus shafts unique to the I series or will they be available at no up charge in the Glides?
[/quote]why would you want a sub 100 gram wedge shaft?[/quote]

If you play the same sub 100 gram shaft in your irons. Some people prefer the same shaft in their wedges.

[dlygrisse]

[quote name='Harry Longshanks' timestamp='1438206976' post='12043924'][quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

[u]Length[/u]

Were you comfortable with the length you were fit into? Was your club gapping the way you like it? Were you hitting the balls flush at that length?

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then order -1/4" in yellow color code.
If not, then consider the new length and how that might affect your swing. Specifically,lie angle.

[u]Lie Angle[/u]

Effective lie angle changes with club length. A longer club plays more upright and a shorter club plays flatter.

1/2" in length = .75° effective lie angle difference. That's the reason PING now does lie angle options (color codes) in .75° increments.

So, 1/2" length difference = one color code difference. That is[list]
[*]1/2" shorter = effective lie angle is .75° flatter = one color code down the chart; and
[*]1/2" longer = effective lie angle .75° more upright = one color code up the chart.
[/list]
Therefore, 1/4" longer = 1/2 a color code difference ( i.e., .375° difference)[list]
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "lefter" than you like, consider the next color code down.
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "righter" than you like, consider the next color code up.
[*]If your ball flight is dead on right now, you are on the PGA Tour. Congratulations, PING will be flying you to Phoenix any day now to get you fitted in their Tour player facility with Trackman and nFlight, so stop worrying. (Alternatively, just stay with your current color code because the difference is minimal.)
[/list]
Having said all that, just go get fitted and hit the clubs. The iE1 is a new head - maybe your specs aren't going to be the same as the old head.[/quote]yellow=yellow. Black=black. The new irons are slightly longer but have slightly flatter lies. So if you were fitted for a color code stick with it. Too many people are over thinking this.

[ashortgame]

It may have been discussed somewhere in this thread, but with 46 pages its difficult to find. So could anyone who has moved from i25's or i20's tell me what they have noticed with the new Ping i's in regard to comparing the distance and forgiveness to the previous models. Cheers in advance.

[square]

[quote name='ashortgame' timestamp='1438223892' post='12045442']
It may have been discussed somewhere in this thread, but with 46 pages its difficult to find. So could anyone who has moved from i25's or i20's tell me what they have noticed with the new Ping i's in regard to comparing the distance and forgiveness to the previous models. Cheers in advance.
[/quote]

As far as I know nobody here has actually played rounds of golf with the new ie sets. So far it is just guys who have hit balls with a 7 iron.

[animalgolfs]

[quote name='dlygrisse' timestamp='1438220144' post='12045086']
[quote name='Harry Longshanks' timestamp='1438206976' post='12043924'][quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

[u]Length[/u]

Were you comfortable with the length you were fit into? Was your club gapping the way you like it? Were you hitting the balls flush at that length?

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then order -1/4" in yellow color code.
If not, then consider the new length and how that might affect your swing. Specifically,lie angle.

[u]Lie Angle[/u]

Effective lie angle changes with club length. A longer club plays more upright and a shorter club plays flatter.

1/2" in length = .75° effective lie angle difference. That's the reason PING now does lie angle options (color codes) in .75° increments.

So, 1/2" length difference = one color code difference. That is[list]
[*]1/2" shorter = effective lie angle is .75° flatter = one color code down the chart; and
[*]1/2" longer = effective lie angle .75° more upright = one color code up the chart.
[/list]
Therefore, 1/4" longer = 1/2 a color code difference ( i.e., .375° difference)[list]
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "lefter" than you like, consider the next color code down.
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "righter" than you like, consider the next color code up.
[*]If your ball flight is dead on right now, you are on the PGA Tour. Congratulations, PING will be flying you to Phoenix any day now to get you fitted in their Tour player facility with Trackman and nFlight, so stop worrying. (Alternatively, just stay with your current color code because the difference is minimal.)
[/list]
Having said all that, just go get fitted and hit the clubs. The iE1 is a new head - maybe your specs aren't going to be the same as the old head.[/quote]yellow=yellow. Black=black. The new irons are slightly longer but have slightly flatter lies. So if you were fitted for a color code stick with it. Too many people are over thinking this.
[/quote]

Not true.... New irons are longer & MORE upright
ie-1 5-iron 38" 61.13*
i25 5-iron 37.75" 60.75*

[JimJam]

Really like these

[doublehans]

[quote name='animalgolfs' timestamp='1438232017' post='12046048']
[quote name='dlygrisse' timestamp='1438220144' post='12045086']
[quote name='Harry Longshanks' timestamp='1438206976' post='12043924'][quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

[u]Length[/u]

Were you comfortable with the length you were fit into? Was your club gapping the way you like it? Were you hitting the balls flush at that length?

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then order -1/4" in yellow color code.
If not, then consider the new length and how that might affect your swing. Specifically,lie angle.

[u]Lie Angle[/u]

Effective lie angle changes with club length. A longer club plays more upright and a shorter club plays flatter.

1/2" in length = .75° effective lie angle difference. That's the reason PING now does lie angle options (color codes) in .75° increments.

So, 1/2" length difference = one color code difference. That is[list]
[*]1/2" shorter = effective lie angle is .75° flatter = one color code down the chart; and
[*]1/2" longer = effective lie angle .75° more upright = one color code up the chart.
[/list]
Therefore, 1/4" longer = 1/2 a color code difference ( i.e., .375° difference)[list]
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "lefter" than you like, consider the next color code down.
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "righter" than you like, consider the next color code up.
[*]If your ball flight is dead on right now, you are on the PGA Tour. Congratulations, PING will be flying you to Phoenix any day now to get you fitted in their Tour player facility with Trackman and nFlight, so stop worrying. (Alternatively, just stay with your current color code because the difference is minimal.)
[/list]
Having said all that, just go get fitted and hit the clubs. The iE1 is a new head - maybe your specs aren't going to be the same as the old head.[/quote]yellow=yellow. Black=black. The new irons are slightly longer but have slightly flatter lies. So if you were fitted for a color code stick with it. Too many people are over thinking this.
[/quote]

Not true.... New irons are longer & MORE upright
ie-1 5-iron 38" 61.13*
i25 5-iron 37.75" 60.75*
[/quote]

Those are the stock numbers for the ie1 and the i25. But "stock" is a different color code for i25 (black) than iE1 (blue), so if you ordered a black dot ie1 at standard length (38 for ie1) then it would in one color code (.75deg) less than the stock numbers on pings page, so that ie1 in black dot should be 60.38 deg - which is what the previous poster said, slightly longer, with slightly flatter lie.

[animalgolfs]

[quote name='doublehans' timestamp='1438239431' post='12046292']
[quote name='animalgolfs' timestamp='1438232017' post='12046048']
[quote name='dlygrisse' timestamp='1438220144' post='12045086']
[quote name='Harry Longshanks' timestamp='1438206976' post='12043924'][quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

[u]Length[/u]

Were you comfortable with the length you were fit into? Was your club gapping the way you like it? Were you hitting the balls flush at that length?

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then order -1/4" in yellow color code.
If not, then consider the new length and how that might affect your swing. Specifically,lie angle.

[u]Lie Angle[/u]

Effective lie angle changes with club length. A longer club plays more upright and a shorter club plays flatter.

1/2" in length = .75° effective lie angle difference. That's the reason PING now does lie angle options (color codes) in .75° increments.

So, 1/2" length difference = one color code difference. That is[list]
[*]1/2" shorter = effective lie angle is .75° flatter = one color code down the chart; and
[*]1/2" longer = effective lie angle .75° more upright = one color code up the chart.
[/list]
Therefore, 1/4" longer = 1/2 a color code difference ( i.e., .375° difference)[list]
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "lefter" than you like, consider the next color code down.
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "righter" than you like, consider the next color code up.
[*]If your ball flight is dead on right now, you are on the PGA Tour. Congratulations, PING will be flying you to Phoenix any day now to get you fitted in their Tour player facility with Trackman and nFlight, so stop worrying. (Alternatively, just stay with your current color code because the difference is minimal.)
[/list]
Having said all that, just go get fitted and hit the clubs. The iE1 is a new head - maybe your specs aren't going to be the same as the old head.[/quote]yellow=yellow. Black=black. The new irons are slightly longer but have slightly flatter lies. So if you were fitted for a color code stick with it. Too many people are over thinking this.
[/quote]

Not true.... New irons are longer & MORE upright
ie-1 5-iron 38" 61.13*
i25 5-iron 37.75" 60.75*
[/quote]

Those are the stock numbers for the ie1 and the i25. But "stock" is a different color code for i25 (black) than iE1 (blue), so if you ordered a black dot ie1 at standard length (38 for ie1) then it would in one color code (.75deg) less than the stock numbers on pings page, so that ie1 in black dot should be 60.38 deg - which is what the previous poster said, slightly longer, with slightly flatter lie.
[/quote]

As I was wrong.... Just not in the "standard" verbiage

Black is black - just don't say standard request black

[doublehans]

Yeah if you want the same specs as i25 standard Length/Lie, you'd have to request ie1 as -1/4 length and black dot. Then it would match standard black dot length and lie for i25.

[dlygrisse]

[quote name='animalgolfs' timestamp='1438232017' post='12046048']
[quote name='dlygrisse' timestamp='1438220144' post='12045086']
[quote name='Harry Longshanks' timestamp='1438206976' post='12043924'][quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

[u]Length[/u]

Were you comfortable with the length you were fit into? Was your club gapping the way you like it? Were you hitting the balls flush at that length?

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then order -1/4" in yellow color code.
If not, then consider the new length and how that might affect your swing. Specifically,lie angle.

[u]Lie Angle[/u]

Effective lie angle changes with club length. A longer club plays more upright and a shorter club plays flatter.

1/2" in length = .75° effective lie angle difference. That's the reason PING now does lie angle options (color codes) in .75° increments.

So, 1/2" length difference = one color code difference. That is[list]
[*]1/2" shorter = effective lie angle is .75° flatter = one color code down the chart; and
[*]1/2" longer = effective lie angle .75° more upright = one color code up the chart.
[/list]
Therefore, 1/4" longer = 1/2 a color code difference ( i.e., .375° difference)[list]
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "lefter" than you like, consider the next color code down.
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "righter" than you like, consider the next color code up.
[*]If your ball flight is dead on right now, you are on the PGA Tour. Congratulations, PING will be flying you to Phoenix any day now to get you fitted in their Tour player facility with Trackman and nFlight, so stop worrying. (Alternatively, just stay with your current color code because the difference is minimal.)
[/list]
Having said all that, just go get fitted and hit the clubs. The iE1 is a new head - maybe your specs aren't going to be the same as the old head.[/quote]yellow=yellow. Black=black. The new irons are slightly longer but have slightly flatter lies. So if you were fitted for a color code stick with it. Too many people are over thinking this.
[/quote]

Not true.... New irons are longer & MORE upright
ie-1 5-iron 38" 61.13*
i25 5-iron 37.75" 60.75*
[/quote]
Are you comparing black to black? If you are comparing black to blue then that is why. The new spec listed is blue, the old spec listed is black. So if you subtract .75* from the IE blue spec it is 60.38* which is flatter than the old I25 spec. which on an iron that 1/4" longer makes perfect sense.

Just because the new "standard" is blue doesnt change the fitting system, it just means that's the color code that will be the standard stock set at a big box store if you don't get custom fit and buy off the rack.

Get it?

[Masse1369]

Trying to do an online fitting based on your height and arm length is a guideline and only that. I have been "fit" by top Ping fitters and they almost always fit too upright and a little too long. Go find someone with a good fitting cart, a sharpie and a bag of balls on grass and get fit.

[mizuno29]

[quote name='Little Ned' timestamp='1433423463' post='11687900']
Have we confirmed that just a new iteration i series is coming out next week? Will we see the G35 as well?
[/quote]It's called the G max iron

[av1084]

[quote name='MJisGOAT' timestamp='1438207244' post='12043958']
[quote name='av1084' timestamp='1437974030' post='12025764']
Sorry if this has been addressed, but are the Modus shafts unique to the I series or will they be available at no up charge in the Glides?
[/quote]why would you want a sub 100 gram wedge shaft?
[/quote]

CFS is a lightweight shaft played in many folks irons and wedges.

[denvergolf]

[quote name='driverwedge3putt' timestamp='1438202085' post='12043466']Mine are in!

Going on BST Tonight. Can't switch mid season.[/quote]No ill will here if you can make a few $, but why did you even buy them?

[doublehans]

[quote name='mizuno29' timestamp='1438270669' post='12047854']
[quote name='Little Ned' timestamp='1433423463' post='11687900']
Have we confirmed that just a new iteration i series is coming out next week? Will we see the G35 as well?
[/quote]It's called the G max iron
[/quote]

I think the GMax is the Karsten replacement, so it's not the g35 or next iteration of the g30, that will be next year.

[fireguyfrank58]

Well you guys getting your clubs gives me hope. I preorded my clubs almost 2 weeks ago and Ping said due to high order value it would be Aug. 20th before I would se them.

[gallas2]

[quote name='dlygrisse' timestamp='1438269075' post='12047718']
[quote name='animalgolfs' timestamp='1438232017' post='12046048']
[quote name='dlygrisse' timestamp='1438220144' post='12045086']
[quote name='Harry Longshanks' timestamp='1438206976' post='12043924'][quote name='brunkel' timestamp='1438195896' post='12042804']
Quick question for everyone. I was fitted for the Ping i25 irons with a yellow dot and standard length a few months ago. I want to order a set of the new Ping i Irons, but realized by reading this thread that they are 1/4" longer than the i25 irons in the 3-9 irons. My question is, should I order 3-9 at -1/4" to match my i25 fitting or does 1/4" not make that much of a difference? Please let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate it.
[/quote]

[u]Length[/u]

Were you comfortable with the length you were fit into? Was your club gapping the way you like it? Were you hitting the balls flush at that length?

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then order -1/4" in yellow color code.
If not, then consider the new length and how that might affect your swing. Specifically,lie angle.

[u]Lie Angle[/u]

Effective lie angle changes with club length. A longer club plays more upright and a shorter club plays flatter.

1/2" in length = .75° effective lie angle difference. That's the reason PING now does lie angle options (color codes) in .75° increments.

So, 1/2" length difference = one color code difference. That is[list]
[*]1/2" shorter = effective lie angle is .75° flatter = one color code down the chart; and
[*]1/2" longer = effective lie angle .75° more upright = one color code up the chart.
[/list]
Therefore, 1/4" longer = 1/2 a color code difference ( i.e., .375° difference)[list]
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "lefter" than you like, consider the next color code down.
[*]If your ball flight right now is a tad "righter" than you like, consider the next color code up.
[*]If your ball flight is dead on right now, you are on the PGA Tour. Congratulations, PING will be flying you to Phoenix any day now to get you fitted in their Tour player facility with Trackman and nFlight, so stop worrying. (Alternatively, just stay with your current color code because the difference is minimal.)
[/list]
Having said all that, just go get fitted and hit the clubs. The iE1 is a new head - maybe your specs aren't going to be the same as the old head.[/quote]yellow=yellow. Black=black. The new irons are slightly longer but have slightly flatter lies. So if you were fitted for a color code stick with it. Too many people are over thinking this.
[/quote]

Not true.... New irons are longer & MORE upright
ie-1 5-iron 38" 61.13*
i25 5-iron 37.75" 60.75*
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Are you comparing black to black? If you are comparing black to blue then that is why. The new spec listed is blue, the old spec listed is black. So if you subtract .75* from the IE blue spec it is 60.38* which is flatter than the old I25 spec. which on an iron that 1/4" longer makes perfect sense.

Just because the new "standard" is blue doesnt change the fitting system, it just means that's the color code that will be the standard stock set at a big box store if you don't get custom fit and buy off the rack.

Get it?
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What if you're getting fit and there's a full moon -- I've heard the gravity of the moon pulls the earth towards it a 1/4 inch.......would blue dot then be back to black dot? Fitting cart just arrived at my club.......sold my i25s to my buddy last night after a few pops at men's night and am already having sellers remorse.

[nilopol]

I have been back and forth with spot hitting the 7 iron and coming from black dot kbs tour stiff s55's so far getting best spin numbers with project x 6.0 and kbs tapers. However up charge for kbs tapers is 320.00 for 4-u, too $$$